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| Started by | WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> |
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| First post | 2018-06-10 03:19 -0700 |
| Last post | 2018-06-11 05:14 -0700 |
| Articles | 20 on this page of 206 — 14 participants |
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Cantor's list is more broad than high. WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-06-10 03:19 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-06-10 03:27 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-06-10 03:32 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. jeff_jo@verizon.net - 2018-06-10 11:03 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-06-10 20:13 +0200
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. jeff_jo@verizon.net - 2018-06-10 12:19 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-06-10 11:35 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. jeff_jo@verizon.net - 2018-06-10 12:38 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-06-10 12:52 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-06-10 22:25 +0200
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-06-10 14:19 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-06-10 14:42 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-06-10 14:49 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-06-11 05:10 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-06-11 05:01 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. jeff_jo@verizon.net - 2018-06-10 18:01 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-06-11 00:52 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-06-11 05:17 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-06-11 05:25 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-06-10 14:13 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2018-06-11 03:16 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-06-11 05:10 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2018-06-11 05:17 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. Dan Christensen <Dan_Christensen@sympatico.ca> - 2018-06-10 13:00 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-06-10 14:15 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. wpihughes@gmail.com - 2018-06-10 14:53 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-06-11 05:09 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. wpihughes@gmail.com - 2018-06-11 07:02 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-06-11 07:20 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. wpihughes@gmail.com - 2018-06-11 07:36 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-06-11 08:35 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. wpihughes@gmail.com - 2018-06-11 10:40 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-06-11 11:31 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. wpihughes@gmail.com - 2018-06-11 12:53 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-06-11 12:59 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. wpihughes@gmail.com - 2018-06-11 13:55 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. wpihughes@gmail.com - 2018-06-11 15:23 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-06-12 04:53 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. wpihughes@gmail.com - 2018-06-12 06:10 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-06-12 08:42 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. wpihughes@gmail.com - 2018-06-12 09:01 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-06-12 11:06 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-06-12 11:15 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. wpihughes@gmail.com - 2018-06-12 12:19 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-06-13 02:14 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. wpihughes@gmail.com - 2018-06-13 04:46 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-06-13 06:17 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. wpihughes@gmail.com - 2018-06-13 09:43 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-06-13 09:53 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. wpihughes@gmail.com - 2018-06-13 10:27 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-06-13 10:51 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. wpihughes@gmail.com - 2018-06-13 10:59 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-06-14 03:32 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. wpihughes@gmail.com - 2018-06-14 03:48 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-06-14 04:01 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. wpihughes@gmail.com - 2018-06-14 04:16 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-06-14 05:24 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. wpihughes@gmail.com - 2018-06-14 05:49 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-06-14 12:39 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. wpihughes@gmail.com - 2018-06-14 13:11 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-06-15 03:26 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. wpihughes@gmail.com - 2018-06-15 16:01 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-06-16 02:42 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. konyberg <konyberg@online.no> - 2018-06-16 03:20 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-06-14 14:20 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. Zelos Malum <zelos.malum@gmail.com> - 2018-06-15 03:51 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-06-15 08:19 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. FredJeffries <fredjeffries@gmail.com> - 2018-06-15 08:58 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. FredJeffries <fredjeffries@gmail.com> - 2018-06-15 09:01 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-06-16 02:42 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. "Shobe, Martin" <martin.shobe@yahoo.com> - 2018-06-17 14:45 -0500
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-06-17 13:18 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-06-17 14:22 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. "Shobe, Martin" <martin.shobe@yahoo.com> - 2018-06-17 22:43 -0500
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-06-18 04:16 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. "Shobe, Martin" <martin.shobe@yahoo.com> - 2018-06-18 19:02 -0500
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-06-20 06:33 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. "Shobe, Martin" <martin.shobe@yahoo.com> - 2018-06-20 18:25 -0500
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-06-21 04:10 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. "Shobe, Martin" <martin.shobe@yahoo.com> - 2018-06-21 07:13 -0500
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-06-21 10:24 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-06-21 11:15 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. "Shobe, Martin" <martin.shobe@yahoo.com> - 2018-06-21 16:10 -0500
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-06-22 02:32 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2018-06-22 04:19 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. "Shobe, Martin" <martin.shobe@yahoo.com> - 2018-06-22 18:55 -0500
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-06-23 04:16 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. "Shobe, Martin" <martin.shobe@yahoo.com> - 2018-06-23 07:37 -0500
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-06-23 06:14 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. "Shobe, Martin" <martin.shobe@yahoo.com> - 2018-06-24 09:38 -0500
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-06-24 07:52 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2018-06-24 11:55 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2018-06-24 11:57 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-06-25 02:38 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2018-06-25 03:20 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. "Shobe, Martin" <martin.shobe@yahoo.com> - 2018-06-25 18:44 -0500
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-06-24 08:04 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2018-06-24 11:55 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. "Shobe, Martin" <martin.shobe@yahoo.com> - 2018-06-25 20:40 -0500
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-06-26 05:46 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. "Shobe, Martin" <martin.shobe@yahoo.com> - 2018-06-26 18:53 -0500
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. transfinity01@gmail.com - 2018-06-27 06:23 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-06-27 18:33 +0200
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. transfinity01@gmail.com - 2018-06-27 12:15 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-06-27 21:54 +0200
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. Zelos Malum <zelos.malum@gmail.com> - 2018-06-27 22:28 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. "Shobe, Martin" <martin.shobe@yahoo.com> - 2018-06-27 18:13 -0500
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. transfinity01@gmail.com - 2018-06-28 06:46 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. "Shobe, Martin" <martin.shobe@yahoo.com> - 2018-06-28 16:07 -0500
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. transfinity01@gmail.com - 2018-06-29 07:01 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-06-29 07:55 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. "Shobe, Martin" <martin.shobe@yahoo.com> - 2018-06-29 19:40 -0500
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-06-30 07:38 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. "Shobe, Martin" <martin.shobe@yahoo.com> - 2018-06-30 14:59 -0500
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-06-30 14:41 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. "Shobe, Martin" <martin.shobe@yahoo.com> - 2018-06-30 22:42 -0500
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-06-30 21:51 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. "Shobe, Martin" <martin.shobe@yahoo.com> - 2018-07-01 20:33 -0500
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-07-02 14:48 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-07-01 04:22 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. "Shobe, Martin" <martin.shobe@yahoo.com> - 2018-07-01 20:35 -0500
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-07-02 11:32 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-07-02 23:10 +0200
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. FredJeffries <fredjeffries@gmail.com> - 2018-07-02 14:36 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-07-03 05:42 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-07-03 14:49 +0200
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. "Shobe, Martin" <martin.shobe@yahoo.com> - 2018-07-02 18:47 -0500
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-07-03 05:52 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. "Shobe, Martin" <martin.shobe@yahoo.com> - 2018-07-03 19:28 -0500
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. jeff_jo@verizon.net - 2018-07-04 10:38 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-07-05 02:43 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. Zelos Malum <zelos.malum@gmail.com> - 2018-07-05 04:58 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-07-05 06:46 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. Zelos Malum <zelos.malum@gmail.com> - 2018-07-06 02:32 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2018-07-06 02:36 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. Zelos Malum <zelos.malum@gmail.com> - 2018-07-07 02:13 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. Zelos Malum <zelos.malum@gmail.com> - 2018-07-07 02:17 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2018-07-07 05:35 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. Zelos Malum <zelos.malum@gmail.com> - 2018-07-08 02:32 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-07-06 04:57 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2018-07-06 05:11 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. Zelos Malum <zelos.malum@gmail.com> - 2018-07-07 02:16 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-07-07 05:54 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. Zelos Malum <zelos.malum@gmail.com> - 2018-07-08 02:35 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-07-08 06:42 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. jeff_jo@verizon.net - 2018-07-05 05:34 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-07-05 07:07 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. jeff_jo@verizon.net - 2018-07-06 08:11 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-07-06 11:24 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. Zelos Malum <zelos.malum@gmail.com> - 2018-07-07 02:25 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-07-07 05:25 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. jeff_jo@verizon.net - 2018-07-07 15:46 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-07-08 06:31 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. Zelos Malum <zelos.malum@gmail.com> - 2018-07-09 01:44 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-07-09 04:43 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. Zelos Malum <zelos.malum@gmail.com> - 2018-06-28 22:49 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. transfinity01@gmail.com - 2018-06-29 07:01 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. konyberg <konyberg@online.no> - 2018-06-29 11:58 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. Zelos Malum <zelos.malum@gmail.com> - 2018-06-30 06:08 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-06-30 15:12 +0200
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-06-30 07:38 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. Zelos Malum <zelos.malum@gmail.com> - 2018-07-03 02:12 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-07-03 05:55 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. Zelos Malum <zelos.malum@gmail.com> - 2018-07-04 01:48 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-07-04 09:55 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-07-05 03:04 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. Zelos Malum <zelos.malum@gmail.com> - 2018-06-24 23:03 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-06-25 02:35 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. Zelos Malum <zelos.malum@gmail.com> - 2018-06-25 22:53 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. FredJeffries <fredjeffries@gmail.com> - 2018-06-17 13:39 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-06-17 14:21 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-06-17 23:28 +0200
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. Zelos Malum <zelos.malum@gmail.com> - 2018-06-17 23:58 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-06-18 04:18 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-06-18 04:22 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-06-18 04:25 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-06-18 06:20 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-06-18 06:33 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-06-18 06:38 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-06-18 09:38 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. FredJeffries <fredjeffries@gmail.com> - 2018-06-18 10:36 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-06-18 11:21 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-06-18 11:34 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-06-18 11:47 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-06-18 22:45 +0200
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. Zelos Malum <zelos.malum@gmail.com> - 2018-06-20 23:33 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-06-21 04:10 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. Zelos Malum <zelos.malum@gmail.com> - 2018-06-24 22:59 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-06-25 02:35 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. Dan Christensen <Dan_Christensen@sympatico.ca> - 2018-06-10 20:51 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-06-11 05:01 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. Dan Christensen <Dan_Christensen@sympatico.ca> - 2018-06-11 08:38 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-06-11 11:37 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. Dan Christensen <Dan_Christensen@sympatico.ca> - 2018-06-11 12:33 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-06-11 12:58 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. Dan Christensen <Dan_Christensen@sympatico.ca> - 2018-06-11 13:47 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-06-11 14:28 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-06-11 23:45 +0200
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. Dan Christensen <Dan_Christensen@sympatico.ca> - 2018-06-11 19:32 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-06-12 05:15 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. Dan Christensen <Dan_Christensen@sympatico.ca> - 2018-06-12 05:56 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-06-12 08:44 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. Dan Christensen <Dan_Christensen@sympatico.ca> - 2018-06-12 09:19 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-06-11 13:32 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. Zelos Malum <zelos.malum@gmail.com> - 2018-06-10 21:35 -0700
Re: Cantor's list is more broad than high. WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-06-11 05:14 -0700
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| From | WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> |
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| Date | 2018-06-21 10:24 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <6baeb223-57c1-4251-84f3-b137c45f5ad9@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #415929 |
Am Donnerstag, 21. Juni 2018 14:13:34 UTC+2 schrieb Shobe, Martin: > On 6/21/2018 6:10 AM, WM wrote: > > Am Donnerstag, 21. Juni 2018 01:25:14 UTC+2 schrieb Shobe, Martin: > >> On 6/20/2018 8:33 AM, WM wrote: > > > > > >>> The accessible part of the list has less than aleph_0 lines and less than aleph_0 columns. The universal quantifer has no access to lines with more pre diagonal elements than post diagonal elements. The universal quantifier has access only to the first quarter, not to the three other quarter of the list with numbers L of lines or C of columns infinite: > >> > >> That isn't the universal quantifier. > > > > There is no universal quantifier since every identified n has aleph_0 successors which are inaccessible. The accessible part of Cantor's list has less than aleph_0 lines and less than aleph_0 columns. The universal quantifer has no access to lines with more pre diagonal elements than post diagonal elements. The universal quantifier has access only to the first quarter, not to the three other quarter of the list with numbers L of lines or C of columns infinite: > > > > L finite, C finite L finite, C infinite > > > > L infinite, C finite L infinite, C infinite > > > > Quantifiers aren't iterators. They do not "access" their domains by > traversing lists. Quantifiers help to express statements which result from checking a set in order to find the existence of a particular member or of all members. Of course that requires to go through the whole set. Regards, WM
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| From | "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-06-21 11:15 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <1c9c3e23-75e7-413e-9509-00470641a2de@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #415950 |
On Thursday, June 21, 2018 at 10:24:19 AM UTC-7, WM wrote: > Am Donnerstag, 21. Juni 2018 14:13:34 UTC+2 schrieb Shobe, Martin: > > On 6/21/2018 6:10 AM, WM wrote: > > > Am Donnerstag, 21. Juni 2018 01:25:14 UTC+2 schrieb Shobe, Martin: > > >> On 6/20/2018 8:33 AM, WM wrote: > > > > > > > > >>> The accessible part of the list has less than aleph_0 lines and less than aleph_0 columns. The universal quantifer has no access to lines with more pre diagonal elements than post diagonal elements. The universal quantifier has access only to the first quarter, not to the three other quarter of the list with numbers L of lines or C of columns infinite: > > >> > > >> That isn't the universal quantifier. > > > > > > There is no universal quantifier since every identified n has aleph_0 successors which are inaccessible. The accessible part of Cantor's list has less than aleph_0 lines and less than aleph_0 columns. The universal quantifer has no access to lines with more pre diagonal elements than post diagonal elements. The universal quantifier has access only to the first quarter, not to the three other quarter of the list with numbers L of lines or C of columns infinite: > > > > > > L finite, C finite L finite, C infinite > > > > > > L infinite, C finite L infinite, C infinite > > > > > > > Quantifiers aren't iterators. They do not "access" their domains by > > traversing lists. > > Quantifiers help to express statements which result from checking a set in order to find the existence of a particular member or of all members. Of course that requires to go through the whole set. > > Regards, WM It's more that an abstract course-of-passage through the elements is declared with the existential and universal quantifiers. The quantifiers reflect on the entirety and whole and each, yes, but mathematics has these properties (and even stipulations, as such) as simple existence and inexistence results where then going through the elements is about cases for induction. Algorithmic and cyclotomic complexity in usual time and space terms for models of digital computation, these are concrete mathematics and these days there's an "embarrassment of resources" in the cheaply available commodity computing systems, all distributed and what with fat pipes and diaspora of the bazaar, Big O and other usual concerns of the network and algorithm designer work out the asymptotic in the unbounded as amortized over general inputs, anyways mathematics establish proof for all of them that could ever be, or to paraphrase Knuth: "I proved it for all cases." It's like Martin said, quantifiers aren't iterators.
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| From | "Shobe, Martin" <martin.shobe@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2018-06-21 16:10 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <pgh492$49k$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #415950 |
On 6/21/2018 12:24 PM, WM wrote: > Am Donnerstag, 21. Juni 2018 14:13:34 UTC+2 schrieb Shobe, Martin: >> On 6/21/2018 6:10 AM, WM wrote: >>> Am Donnerstag, 21. Juni 2018 01:25:14 UTC+2 schrieb Shobe, Martin: >>>> On 6/20/2018 8:33 AM, WM wrote: >>> >>> >>>>> The accessible part of the list has less than aleph_0 lines and less than aleph_0 columns. The universal quantifer has no access to lines with more pre diagonal elements than post diagonal elements. The universal quantifier has access only to the first quarter, not to the three other quarter of the list with numbers L of lines or C of columns infinite: >>>> >>>> That isn't the universal quantifier. >>> >>> There is no universal quantifier since every identified n has aleph_0 successors which are inaccessible. The accessible part of Cantor's list has less than aleph_0 lines and less than aleph_0 columns. The universal quantifer has no access to lines with more pre diagonal elements than post diagonal elements. The universal quantifier has access only to the first quarter, not to the three other quarter of the list with numbers L of lines or C of columns infinite: >>> >>> L finite, C finite L finite, C infinite >>> >>> L infinite, C finite L infinite, C infinite >>> >> >> Quantifiers aren't iterators. They do not "access" their domains by >> traversing lists. > > Quantifiers help to express statements which result from checking a set in order to find the existence of a particular member or of all members. Of course that requires to go through the whole set. No. Quantifiers allow us to state facts about a domain. They don't "go through" the set unless you broaden the meaning of "go through" to be meaningless. Martin Shobe
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| From | WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> |
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| Date | 2018-06-22 02:32 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <688d9133-44f9-4971-b7d9-5bf7b48bbeed@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #415973 |
Am Donnerstag, 21. Juni 2018 23:11:05 UTC+2 schrieb Shobe, Martin: > On 6/21/2018 12:24 PM, WM wrote: > > Am Donnerstag, 21. Juni 2018 14:13:34 UTC+2 schrieb Shobe, Martin: > >> On 6/21/2018 6:10 AM, WM wrote: > >>> Am Donnerstag, 21. Juni 2018 01:25:14 UTC+2 schrieb Shobe, Martin: > >>>> On 6/20/2018 8:33 AM, WM wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>>>> The accessible part of the list has less than aleph_0 lines and less than aleph_0 columns. The universal quantifer has no access to lines with more pre diagonal elements than post diagonal elements. The universal quantifier has access only to the first quarter, not to the three other quarter of the list with numbers L of lines or C of columns infinite: > >>>> > >>>> That isn't the universal quantifier. > >>> > >>> There is no universal quantifier since every identified n has aleph_0 successors which are inaccessible. The accessible part of Cantor's list has less than aleph_0 lines and less than aleph_0 columns. The universal quantifer has no access to lines with more pre diagonal elements than post diagonal elements. The universal quantifier has access only to the first quarter, not to the three other quarter of the list with numbers L of lines or C of columns infinite: > >>> > >>> L finite, C finite L finite, C infinite > >>> > >>> L infinite, C finite L infinite, C infinite > >>> > >> > >> Quantifiers aren't iterators. They do not "access" their domains by > >> traversing lists. > > > > Quantifiers help to express statements which result from checking a set in order to find the existence of a particular member or of all members. Of course that requires to go through the whole set. > > No. Quantifiers allow us to state facts about a domain. No, facts about *elements* of a set aka domain. > They don't "go > through" the set Of course not. We do and express the result by quantifiers. That's mathematics. Only in matheology simple belief is expressed without going through. For instance it is claimed that all natural numbers can be quantified over although it is clear that (if existing) always aleph_0 many are inaccessible. Regards, WM
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| From | Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> |
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| Date | 2018-06-22 04:19 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <31ce27e6-94a4-4a3d-891d-6834bc55a426@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #416005 |
On Friday, 22 June 2018 11:32:25 UTC+2, WM wrote: > Am Donnerstag, 21. Juni 2018 23:11:05 UTC+2 schrieb Shobe, Martin: > > On 6/21/2018 12:24 PM, WM wrote: <snip> > > > Quantifiers help to express statements which result from checking a set in order to find the existence of a particular member or of all members. Of course that requires to go through the whole set. > > > > No. Quantifiers allow us to state facts about a domain. > > No, facts about *elements* of a set aka domain. > > > They don't "go through" the set > > Of course not. We do and express the result by quantifiers. That's mathematics. Moron, that's circular and just your vacuousness. The objection to your utter bullshit was that nobody ever goes one by one through all elements of a domain (as in your initial "go through the whole set"), that's just *your* reiterated bullshit and attempted spell. Liar and spammer. *Plonk* Julio
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| From | "Shobe, Martin" <martin.shobe@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2018-06-22 18:55 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <pgk28n$v6e$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #416005 |
On 6/22/2018 4:32 AM, WM wrote: > Am Donnerstag, 21. Juni 2018 23:11:05 UTC+2 schrieb Shobe, Martin: >> On 6/21/2018 12:24 PM, WM wrote: >>> Am Donnerstag, 21. Juni 2018 14:13:34 UTC+2 schrieb Shobe, Martin: >>>> On 6/21/2018 6:10 AM, WM wrote: >>>>> Am Donnerstag, 21. Juni 2018 01:25:14 UTC+2 schrieb Shobe, Martin: >>>>>> On 6/20/2018 8:33 AM, WM wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>> The accessible part of the list has less than aleph_0 lines and less than aleph_0 columns. The universal quantifer has no access to lines with more pre diagonal elements than post diagonal elements. The universal quantifier has access only to the first quarter, not to the three other quarter of the list with numbers L of lines or C of columns infinite: >>>>>> >>>>>> That isn't the universal quantifier. >>>>> >>>>> There is no universal quantifier since every identified n has aleph_0 successors which are inaccessible. The accessible part of Cantor's list has less than aleph_0 lines and less than aleph_0 columns. The universal quantifer has no access to lines with more pre diagonal elements than post diagonal elements. The universal quantifier has access only to the first quarter, not to the three other quarter of the list with numbers L of lines or C of columns infinite: >>>>> >>>>> L finite, C finite L finite, C infinite >>>>> >>>>> L infinite, C finite L infinite, C infinite >>>>> >>>> >>>> Quantifiers aren't iterators. They do not "access" their domains by >>>> traversing lists. >>> >>> Quantifiers help to express statements which result from checking a set in order to find the existence of a particular member or of all members. Of course that requires to go through the whole set. >> >> No. Quantifiers allow us to state facts about a domain. > > No, facts about *elements* of a set aka domain. The facts expressed are about the domain. For the standard two, one says that there's at least one thing in the domain for which it's true and the other says that there's nothing in the domain for which it's not true. >> They don't "go >> through" the set > > Of course not. We do and express the result by quantifiers. That's mathematics. Only in matheology simple belief is expressed without going through. For instance it is claimed that all natural numbers can be quantified over although it is clear that (if existing) always aleph_0 many are inaccessible.. Nothing in the domain is inaccessible to the quantifiers Martin Shobe
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| From | WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> |
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| Date | 2018-06-23 04:16 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <89a48be4-f550-49bd-8765-5a51e5c59c7a@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #416088 |
Am Samstag, 23. Juni 2018 01:55:10 UTC+2 schrieb Shobe, Martin: > >>> Quantifiers help to express statements which result from checking a set in order to find the existence of a particular member or of all members. Of course that requires to go through the whole set. > >> > >> No. Quantifiers allow us to state facts about a domain. > > > > No, facts about *elements* of a set aka domain. > > The facts expressed are about the domain. For the standard two, one says > that there's at least one thing So they are about "things". I denote these things as elements. > Nothing in the domain is inaccessible to the quantifiers Chuckle. What about lines of the Cantor list with more pre-diagonal elemnts than post diagonal elements? It is undisputed that there are lines with infinitely many post-diagonal elements and that there are columns with infinitely many post diagonal elements. And you claim that the list is complete and nothing is inaccessible. The diagonal has infinitely many elements following upon every element. If infinity is finished, then at least half of them belong to lines with more pre-diagonal elements than post diagonal elements. Regards, WM
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| From | "Shobe, Martin" <martin.shobe@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2018-06-23 07:37 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <pgletq$7fk$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #416134 |
On 6/23/2018 6:16 AM, WM wrote: > Am Samstag, 23. Juni 2018 01:55:10 UTC+2 schrieb Shobe, Martin: > > >>>>> Quantifiers help to express statements which result from checking a set in order to find the existence of a particular member or of all members. Of course that requires to go through the whole set. >>>> >>>> No. Quantifiers allow us to state facts about a domain. >>> >>> No, facts about *elements* of a set aka domain. >> >> The facts expressed are about the domain. For the standard two, one says >> that there's at least one thing > > So they are about "things". I denote these things as elements. Not directly, and in this case it needs to be emphasized since you're trying to sneak in a part/whole fallacy. >> Nothing in the domain is inaccessible to the quantifiers > > Chuckle. What about lines of the Cantor list with more pre-diagonal elemnts than post diagonal elements? There are no such lines. > It is undisputed that there are lines with infinitely many post-diagonal elements and that there are columns with infinitely many post diagonal elements. And you claim that the list is complete and nothing is inaccessible. Drunk again? > The diagonal has infinitely many elements following upon every element. If infinity is finished, then at least half of them belong to lines with more pre-diagonal elements than post diagonal elements. No. Martin Shobe
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| From | WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> |
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| Date | 2018-06-23 06:14 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <51babd3e-ac47-4daf-a263-6d20aedabcdd@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #416138 |
Am Samstag, 23. Juni 2018 14:37:20 UTC+2 schrieb Shobe, Martin: > On 6/23/2018 6:16 AM, WM wrote: > > Am Samstag, 23. Juni 2018 01:55:10 UTC+2 schrieb Shobe, Martin: > > > > > >>>>> Quantifiers help to express statements which result from checking a set in order to find the existence of a particular member or of all members. Of course that requires to go through the whole set. > >>>> > >>>> No. Quantifiers allow us to state facts about a domain. > >>> > >>> No, facts about *elements* of a set aka domain. > >> > >> The facts expressed are about the domain. For the standard two, one says > >> that there's at least one thing > > > > So they are about "things". I denote these things as elements. > > Not directly, and in this case it needs to be emphasized since you're > trying to sneak in a part/whole fallacy. > > >> Nothing in the domain is inaccessible to the quantifiers > > > > Chuckle. What about lines of the Cantor list with more pre-diagonal elemnts than post diagonal elements? > > There are no such lines. Then there is no finished infinity. The majority of lines with aleph_0 post-diagonal elements (i.e., more than any identifiable line has before the diagonal) and the majority of columns with aleph_0 elements below the diagonal ((i.e., more than any identifiable column has above the diagonal) simply do not exist. And the majority of diagonal elements, i.e., those that are said to define the real diagonal number, do not exist either. There is no real number identified by the diagonal. > > > It is undisputed that there are lines with infinitely many post-diagonal elements and that there are columns with infinitely many post diagonal elements. And you claim that the list is complete and nothing is inaccessible. > > > The diagonal has infinitely many elements following upon every element. If infinity is finished, then at least half of them belong to lines with more pre-diagonal elements than post diagonal elements. > > No. Thank you. If infinity was finished, the matrix had a center. You deny it. So infinity is not finished. There is no center. There is no definition of a real number by the diagonal because every digit fails to define a real number. Regards, WM
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| From | "Shobe, Martin" <martin.shobe@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2018-06-24 09:38 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <pgoadn$i7n$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #416141 |
On 6/23/2018 8:14 AM, WM wrote: > Am Samstag, 23. Juni 2018 14:37:20 UTC+2 schrieb Shobe, Martin: >> On 6/23/2018 6:16 AM, WM wrote: >>> Am Samstag, 23. Juni 2018 01:55:10 UTC+2 schrieb Shobe, Martin: >>> >>> >>>>>>> Quantifiers help to express statements which result from checking a set in order to find the existence of a particular member or of all members. Of course that requires to go through the whole set. >>>>>> >>>>>> No. Quantifiers allow us to state facts about a domain. >>>>> >>>>> No, facts about *elements* of a set aka domain. >>>> >>>> The facts expressed are about the domain. For the standard two, one says >>>> that there's at least one thing >>> >>> So they are about "things". I denote these things as elements. >> >> Not directly, and in this case it needs to be emphasized since you're >> trying to sneak in a part/whole fallacy. >> >>>> Nothing in the domain is inaccessible to the quantifiers >>> >>> Chuckle. What about lines of the Cantor list with more pre-diagonal elemnts than post diagonal elements? >> >> There are no such lines. > > Then there is no finished infinity. The majority of lines with aleph_0 post-diagonal elements (i.e., more than any identifiable line has before the diagonal) and the majority of columns with aleph_0 elements below the diagonal ((i.e., more than any identifiable column has above the diagonal) simply do not exist. And the majority of diagonal elements, i.e., those that are said to define the real diagonal number, do not exist either. There is no real number identified by the diagonal. Definitely drunk again. >>> It is undisputed that there are lines with infinitely many post-diagonal elements and that there are columns with infinitely many post diagonal elements. And you claim that the list is complete and nothing is inaccessible.. > >> >>> The diagonal has infinitely many elements following upon every element. If infinity is finished, then at least half of them belong to lines with more pre-diagonal elements than post diagonal elements. >> >> No. > > Thank you. If infinity was finished, the matrix had a center. You deny it. So infinity is not finished. There is no center. There is no definition of a real number by the diagonal because every digit fails to define a real number. Even with what you call "finished infinity" the matrix doesn't have a center. Martin Shobe
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| From | WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> |
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| Date | 2018-06-24 07:52 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <4237cc8e-966c-4542-9946-3f67cc14d378@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #416208 |
Am Sonntag, 24. Juni 2018 16:38:53 UTC+2 schrieb Shobe, Martin: > > There is no real number identified by the diagonal. > > Definitely drunk again. How can the listing of a sequence of digits define something unless there is a last one? Regards, WM
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| From | Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> |
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| Date | 2018-06-24 11:55 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <fcc94798-61d8-4c6e-9f0e-2ba4606cea46@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #416210 |
On Sunday, 24 June 2018 16:52:53 UTC+2, WM wrote: > Am Sonntag, 24. Juni 2018 16:38:53 UTC+2 schrieb Shobe, Martin: > > > > There is no real number identified by the diagonal. > > > > Definitely drunk again. > > How can the listing of a sequence of digits define something unless there > is a last one? What's the last digit of (the binary decimal expansion of) 1/3? WM is not drunk, he is a liar and a spammer. Julio
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| From | Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> |
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| Date | 2018-06-24 11:57 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <3c55675d-e39e-4232-94f2-4e8d378b5d48@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #416233 |
On Sunday, 24 June 2018 20:55:14 UTC+2, Julio Di Egidio wrote: > On Sunday, 24 June 2018 16:52:53 UTC+2, WM wrote: > > Am Sonntag, 24. Juni 2018 16:38:53 UTC+2 schrieb Shobe, Martin: > > > > > > There is no real number identified by the diagonal. > > > > > > Definitely drunk again. > > > > How can the listing of a sequence of digits define something unless there > > is a last one? > > What's the last digit of (the binary decimal expansion of) 1/3? Sorry, of course should read the binary expansion... Julio
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| From | WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> |
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| Date | 2018-06-25 02:38 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <23bca86f-88f0-46bc-9a26-b271fb801706@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #416236 |
Am Sonntag, 24. Juni 2018 20:57:10 UTC+2 schrieb Julio Di Egidio: > > > How can the listing of a sequence of digits define something unless there > > > is a last one? > > > > What's the last digit of (the binary decimal expansion of) 1/3? > > Sorry, of course should read the binary expansion... There is no last digit. Therefore the string of listed digits cannot define a real number. Only the algorithm supplying the digits defines 1/3. But you are not able to grasp this fact. Regards, WM
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| From | Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> |
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| Date | 2018-06-25 03:20 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <ac701f55-d5b1-47d5-9946-867d478f080c@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #416295 |
On Monday, 25 June 2018 11:38:33 UTC+2, WM wrote: > Am Sonntag, 24. Juni 2018 20:57:10 UTC+2 schrieb Julio Di Egidio: > > > > > How can the listing of a sequence of digits define something unless there > > > > is a last one? > > > > > > What's the last digit of (the binary decimal expansion of) 1/3? > > > > Sorry, of course should read the binary expansion... > > There is no last digit. Therefore the string of listed digits cannot define a real number. Only the algorithm supplying the digits defines 1/3. But you are not able to grasp this fact. You miss the point: by your token, not even the rational numbers exist. You fucking fraud... *Plonk* Julio
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| From | "Shobe, Martin" <martin.shobe@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2018-06-25 18:44 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <pgrupd$fh$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #416210 |
On 6/24/2018 9:52 AM, WM wrote: > Am Sonntag, 24. Juni 2018 16:38:53 UTC+2 schrieb Shobe, Martin: > >>> There is no real number identified by the diagonal. >> >> Definitely drunk again. > > How can the listing of a sequence of digits define something unless there is a last one? Something stronger than alcohol? You didn't mention definitions (not that you know what one is.) Martin Shobe
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| From | WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> |
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| Date | 2018-06-24 08:04 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <9588e3d2-36ce-47bd-804c-435b21df156e@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #416138 |
Am Samstag, 23. Juni 2018 14:37:20 UTC+2 schrieb Shobe, Martin: > On 6/23/2018 6:16 AM, WM wrote: > >> The facts expressed are about the domain. For the standard two, one says > >> that there's at least one thing > > > > So they are about "things". I denote these things as elements. > > Not directly, Directly. > and in this case it needs to be emphasized since you're > trying to sneak in a part/whole fallacy. It is no fallacy to say that quantifiers concern elements. > > >> Nothing in the domain is inaccessible to the quantifiers > > > > Chuckle. What about lines of the Cantor list with more pre-diagonal elemnts than post diagonal elements? > > There are no such lines. Then obviously every line has more post-diagonal elements than pre-diagonal elements. Since the post-diagonal elements are irrelevant for the diagonal argument, almost all elements are irrelevant for the diagonal argument. Only few elements denoting fractions are relevant. > > The diagonal has infinitely many elements following upon every element. If infinity is finished, then at least half of them belong to lines with more pre-diagonal elements than post diagonal elements. > > No. Striking argument. Regards, WM
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| From | Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> |
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| Date | 2018-06-24 11:55 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <4e4929a6-c3b0-4383-b8e0-ca1d5802df31@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #416212 |
On Sunday, 24 June 2018 17:04:35 UTC+2, WM wrote: > Am Samstag, 23. Juni 2018 14:37:20 UTC+2 schrieb Shobe, Martin: <snip> > > and in this case it needs to be emphasized since you're > > trying to sneak in a part/whole fallacy. > > It is no fallacy to say that quantifiers concern elements. Yes, it is: it's not even wrong. Julio
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| From | "Shobe, Martin" <martin.shobe@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2018-06-25 20:40 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <pgs5i8$2fh$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #416212 |
On 6/24/2018 10:04 AM, WM wrote: > Am Samstag, 23. Juni 2018 14:37:20 UTC+2 schrieb Shobe, Martin: >> On 6/23/2018 6:16 AM, WM wrote: > > >>>> The facts expressed are about the domain. For the standard two, one says >>>> that there's at least one thing >>> >>> So they are about "things". I denote these things as elements. >> >> Not directly, > > Directly. No mention is made of any particular element by the quantifiers. >> and in this case it needs to be emphasized since you're >> trying to sneak in a part/whole fallacy. > > It is no fallacy to say that quantifiers concern elements. It is when you use it to set up a part/whole fallacy. >>>> Nothing in the domain is inaccessible to the quantifiers >>> >>> Chuckle. What about lines of the Cantor list with more pre-diagonal elemnts than post diagonal elements? >> >> There are no such lines. > > Then obviously every line has more post-diagonal elements than pre-diagonal elements. Obviously. > Since the post-diagonal elements are irrelevant for the diagonal argument, almost all elements are irrelevant for the diagonal argument. Only few elements denoting fractions are relevant. Neither the pre-diagonal nor the post-diagonal elements matter for the diagonal argument. >>> The diagonal has infinitely many elements following upon every element. If infinity is finished, then at least half of them belong to lines with more pre-diagonal elements than post diagonal elements. >> >> No. > > Striking argument. It's sufficient. Martin Shobe
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| From | WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> |
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| Date | 2018-06-26 05:46 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <1a7c518d-1d6f-4600-8672-70d4e435450b@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #416345 |
Am Dienstag, 26. Juni 2018 03:40:32 UTC+2 schrieb Shobe, Martin: > >>> So they are about "things". I denote these things as elements. > >> > >> Not directly, > > > > Directly. > > No mention is made of any particular element by the quantifiers. Obviously there are more subtle ways of mentioning one or all than you are able to understand. > > > Then obviously every line has more post-diagonal elements than pre-diagonal elements. > > Obviously. Did you note the application of a quantifier without direct menioning though? Probably not. > > > Since the post-diagonal elements are irrelevant for the diagonal argument, almost all elements are irrelevant for the diagonal argument. Only few elements denoting fractions are relevant. > > Neither the pre-diagonal nor the post-diagonal elements matter for the > diagonal argument. The pre-diagonal elements with their indices are required to enumerate the columns up to the diagonal element. > >>> The diagonal has infinitely many elements following upon every element. If infinity is finished, then at least half of them belong to lines with more pre-diagonal elements than post diagonal elements. > >> > >> No. > > > > Striking argument. > > It's sufficient. In matheology perhaps. Regards, WM
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