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  9TEACHING TRUE MATHEMATICS// Breakthrough in Conic Sections along with Physics//chapter 4 Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2018-05-23 15:11 -0700
    Re: 9TEACHING TRUE MATHEMATICS// Breakthrough in Conic Sections along with Physics//chapter 4 Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2018-05-23 22:14 -0700
      Re: 9TEACHING TRUE MATHEMATICS// Breakthrough in Conic Sections along with Physics//chapter 4 Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2018-05-23 22:30 -0700
        No, AP, when you slice a cone from the apex, it will lie flat. alouatta.coibensis@gmail.com - 2018-05-24 08:22 -0700
          No, fruitcake-- it never lies flat Re: No, AP, when you slice a cone from the apex, it will lie flat. Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2018-05-24 09:53 -0700
            Poor AP.  Can't use use scissors correctly.  Holds them at the wrong end. alouatta.coibensis@gmail.com - 2018-05-24 09:59 -0700
    AP continues his assault on conic sections alouatta.coibensis@gmail.com - 2018-05-24 08:23 -0700
    Re: 9TEACHING TRUE MATHEMATICS// Breakthrough in Conic Sections along with Physics//chapter 4 moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-05-25 20:10 +0000
    Re: 9TEACHING TRUE MATHEMATICS// Breakthrough in Conic Sections along with Physics//chapter 4 bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-06-24 21:36 -0700

#413693 — 9TEACHING TRUE MATHEMATICS// Breakthrough in Conic Sections along with Physics//chapter 4

9TEACHING TRUE MATHEMATICS// Breakthrough in Conic Sections along with Physics//chapter 4 

Now I am doing physics simultaneously with math of conic sections, totally separate and independent of one another, except I have run into a intersection of the two, at this moment. This intersection is supporting evidence that the mind and brain of intelligent life is not chemically based machine, but is rather a radio receiver machine that picks up ideas and thoughts from out-of-body, photons shot from the Nucleus of the Atom Totality that gives every creature his/her/its ideas and thoughts of what to do next. Superdeterminism, no free will. 

So, I was looking for Maximum Electricity in a geometry configuration and found it in the tokamak Torus geometry and if you look at the Aufbau of elements, the chart of energy levels, you can make out that this Aufbau is itself a torus geometry. 

Now, a Cylinder is plane Euclidean geometry for if we take a plane sheet of paper and with one circular fold we have a cylinder. Now, if we could take that cylinder and bend it around without breaking or tearing it we would have a torus. With paper that is impossible but with closed loops as a cylinder with gaps in between consecutive loops we easily form a torus from a cylinder. And that is what Faraday coil is-- gaps between successive closed loops. 

Now, we constructed a Cylinder from a flat plane sheet of paper. Can we construct a cone from a flat plane sheet of paper? The question I am asking here is a devious question on my part, for if we had a cone of paper and cut it on one cut from base to height tip of cone in a straightline cut, can we fold that cut cone to lie perfectly flat? We can do the same thing with a cylinder, cut it, and it is a plane itself. But what is the cut cone? Is it ever able to be a flat Euclidean surface? Or is there some integral curvature to a cone, that a cone is impossible to lie flat in Euclidean geometry? And what do we call this integral curvature of cone? Do we call it as in physics-- a Cylinder has 0 spin while a cone has an intrinsic 1/2 spin. 

Now, further, can we lie a Cone flat, if we are given 2 straightline cuts, perhaps 4 straightline cuts where those 4 are somewhat triangle shaped? 

Now this is important for my physics, of torus and electricity, because the fill in of gaps between closed loops of the wire coil, so you can fold a cylinder to be a torus, those gaps are somewhat similar to the cone not being able to lie flat. 

So, what the Torus shape for maximum electricity, is the Aufbau, and each new proton and muons that build the elements, those are windings of a coil, and the gaps between proton windings, that empty space gap is the neutron windings. 

And the bar magnet which I have had a difficult time of understanding finally becomes clear, or more clear. The bar magnet to make maximum electricity in Faraday's law are all the lower energy levels themselves folded into a torus and that is the bar magnet. So for instance the first energy level of 1s in helium is a torus and then in beryllium is a 2s torus with the 1s torus inside it acting as bar magnet, then for 2p of neon, is a torus that has 2s torus inside 2p and the 1s torus inside of 2s. This makes sense if you want Maximum Electricity of Faraday law. And, it makes sense in that the Chemical Bond is a completion of a torus, such as say N2 molecule, where the partial filled torus of one Nitrogen atom's 2P is filled by the second nitrogen atom. Where one of the Nitrogen atom's 2P is a full torus with its 1S inside 2S inside the filled 2P and adjacent is the second Nitrogen atom as a torus of just 2S with 1S inside. This gets rid of Lewis structure altogether as merely a erroneous mnemonic device. 

Now for O2 we have one O filled of its 2P with toruses 2s and 1s inside the 2P torus, but with the second oxygen we have the 2S torus filled with 1S torus inside, but we have 2 extra valence muons left over and what they do is form a second 2S, call it the 2S_x and 2S_y. 

So, Chemistry bonding is altogether new and different, as a torus design. 

AP

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#413719

On Wednesday, May 23, 2018 at 5:11:53 PM UTC-5, Archimedes Plutonium wrote:
> 9TEACHING TRUE MATHEMATICS// Breakthrough in Conic Sections along with Physics//chapter 4 
> 
> Now I am doing physics simultaneously with math of conic sections, totally separate and independent of one another, except I have run into a intersection of the two, at this moment. This intersection is supporting evidence that the mind and brain of intelligent life is not chemically based machine, but is rather a radio receiver machine that picks up ideas and thoughts from out-of-body, photons shot from the Nucleus of the Atom Totality that gives every creature his/her/its ideas and thoughts of what to do next. Superdeterminism, no free will. 
> 
> So, I was looking for Maximum Electricity in a geometry configuration and found it in the tokamak Torus geometry and if you look at the Aufbau of elements, the chart of energy levels, you can make out that this Aufbau is itself a torus geometry. 
> 
> Now, a Cylinder is plane Euclidean geometry for if we take a plane sheet of paper and with one circular fold we have a cylinder. Now, if we could take that cylinder and bend it around without breaking or tearing it we would have a torus. With paper that is impossible but with closed loops as a cylinder with gaps in between consecutive loops we easily form a torus from a cylinder. And that is what Faraday coil is-- gaps between successive closed loops. 
> 
> Now, we constructed a Cylinder from a flat plane sheet of paper. Can we construct a cone from a flat plane sheet of paper? The question I am asking here is a devious question on my part, for if we had a cone of paper and cut it on one cut from base to height tip of cone in a straightline cut, can we fold that cut cone to lie perfectly flat? We can do the same thing with a cylinder, cut it, and it is a plane itself. But what is the cut cone? Is it ever able to be a flat Euclidean surface? Or is there some integral curvature to a cone, that a cone is impossible to lie flat in Euclidean geometry? And what do we call this integral curvature of cone? Do we call it as in physics-- a Cylinder has 0 spin while a cone has an intrinsic 1/2 spin. 
> 
> Now, further, can we lie a Cone flat, if we are given 2 straightline cuts, perhaps 4 straightline cuts where those 4 are somewhat triangle shaped? 
> 
> Now this is important for my physics, of torus and electricity, because the fill in of gaps between closed loops of the wire coil, so you can fold a cylinder to be a torus, those gaps are somewhat similar to the cone not being able to lie flat. 
> 
> So, what the Torus shape for maximum electricity, is the Aufbau, and each new proton and muons that build the elements, those are windings of a coil, and the gaps between proton windings, that empty space gap is the neutron windings. 
> 
> And the bar magnet which I have had a difficult time of understanding finally becomes clear, or more clear. The bar magnet to make maximum electricity in Faraday's law are all the lower energy levels themselves folded into a torus and that is the bar magnet. So for instance the first energy level of 1s in helium is a torus and then in beryllium is a 2s torus with the 1s torus inside it acting as bar magnet, then for 2p of neon, is a torus that has 2s torus inside 2p and the 1s torus inside of 2s. This makes sense if you want Maximum Electricity of Faraday law. And, it makes sense in that the Chemical Bond is a completion of a torus, such as say N2 molecule, where the partial filled torus of one Nitrogen atom's 2P is filled by the second nitrogen atom. Where one of the Nitrogen atom's 2P is a full torus with its 1S inside 2S inside the filled 2P and adjacent is the second Nitrogen atom as a torus of just 2S with 1S inside. This gets rid of Lewis structure altogether as merely a erroneous mnemonic device. 
> 
> Now for O2 we have one O filled of its 2P with toruses 2s and 1s inside the 2P torus, but with the second oxygen we have the 2S torus filled with 1S torus inside, but we have 2 extra valence muons left over and what they do is form a second 2S, call it the 2S_x and 2S_y. 
> 
> So, Chemistry bonding is altogether new and different, as a torus design. 
> 

I am tempted to buy some of those paper coffee cones they use in coffee machines to cut a straightline from base to apex and see whether it can lay flat on a Euclidean plane. The trouble with rolling up a sheet of stiff magazine paper is that too much gets in the rolling up, of layers. But maybe if I taped all around I can bypass, and save me from getting a coffee cone.

Let me give it a go.

AP

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#413722

On Thursday, May 24, 2018 at 12:14:32 AM UTC-5, Archimedes Plutonium wrote:
> On Wednesday, May 23, 2018 at 5:11:53 PM UTC-5, Archimedes Plutonium wrote:
> > 9TEACHING TRUE MATHEMATICS// Breakthrough in Conic Sections along with Physics//chapter 4 
> > 
> > Now I am doing physics simultaneously with math of conic sections, totally separate and independent of one another, except I have run into a intersection of the two, at this moment. This intersection is supporting evidence that the mind and brain of intelligent life is not chemically based machine, but is rather a radio receiver machine that picks up ideas and thoughts from out-of-body, photons shot from the Nucleus of the Atom Totality that gives every creature his/her/its ideas and thoughts of what to do next. Superdeterminism, no free will. 
> > 
> > So, I was looking for Maximum Electricity in a geometry configuration and found it in the tokamak Torus geometry and if you look at the Aufbau of elements, the chart of energy levels, you can make out that this Aufbau is itself a torus geometry. 
> > 
> > Now, a Cylinder is plane Euclidean geometry for if we take a plane sheet of paper and with one circular fold we have a cylinder. Now, if we could take that cylinder and bend it around without breaking or tearing it we would have a torus. With paper that is impossible but with closed loops as a cylinder with gaps in between consecutive loops we easily form a torus from a cylinder. And that is what Faraday coil is-- gaps between successive closed loops. 
> > 
> > Now, we constructed a Cylinder from a flat plane sheet of paper. Can we construct a cone from a flat plane sheet of paper? The question I am asking here is a devious question on my part, for if we had a cone of paper and cut it on one cut from base to height tip of cone in a straightline cut, can we fold that cut cone to lie perfectly flat? We can do the same thing with a cylinder, cut it, and it is a plane itself. But what is the cut cone? Is it ever able to be a flat Euclidean surface? Or is there some integral curvature to a cone, that a cone is impossible to lie flat in Euclidean geometry? And what do we call this integral curvature of cone? Do we call it as in physics-- a Cylinder has 0 spin while a cone has an intrinsic 1/2 spin. 
> > 
> > Now, further, can we lie a Cone flat, if we are given 2 straightline cuts, perhaps 4 straightline cuts where those 4 are somewhat triangle shaped? 
> > 
> > Now this is important for my physics, of torus and electricity, because the fill in of gaps between closed loops of the wire coil, so you can fold a cylinder to be a torus, those gaps are somewhat similar to the cone not being able to lie flat. 
> > 
> > So, what the Torus shape for maximum electricity, is the Aufbau, and each new proton and muons that build the elements, those are windings of a coil, and the gaps between proton windings, that empty space gap is the neutron windings. 
> > 
> > And the bar magnet which I have had a difficult time of understanding finally becomes clear, or more clear. The bar magnet to make maximum electricity in Faraday's law are all the lower energy levels themselves folded into a torus and that is the bar magnet. So for instance the first energy level of 1s in helium is a torus and then in beryllium is a 2s torus with the 1s torus inside it acting as bar magnet, then for 2p of neon, is a torus that has 2s torus inside 2p and the 1s torus inside of 2s. This makes sense if you want Maximum Electricity of Faraday law. And, it makes sense in that the Chemical Bond is a completion of a torus, such as say N2 molecule, where the partial filled torus of one Nitrogen atom's 2P is filled by the second nitrogen atom. Where one of the Nitrogen atom's 2P is a full torus with its 1S inside 2S inside the filled 2P and adjacent is the second Nitrogen atom as a torus of just 2S with 1S inside. This gets rid of Lewis structure altogether as merely a erroneous mnemonic device. 
> > 
> > Now for O2 we have one O filled of its 2P with toruses 2s and 1s inside the 2P torus, but with the second oxygen we have the 2S torus filled with 1S torus inside, but we have 2 extra valence muons left over and what they do is form a second 2S, call it the 2S_x and 2S_y. 
> > 
> > So, Chemistry bonding is altogether new and different, as a torus design. 
> > 
> 
> I am tempted to buy some of those paper coffee cones they use in coffee machines to cut a straightline from base to apex and see whether it can lay flat on a Euclidean plane. The trouble with rolling up a sheet of stiff magazine paper is that too much gets in the rolling up, of layers. But maybe if I taped all around I can bypass, and save me from getting a coffee cone.
> 
> Let me give it a go.
> 

No, the paper folding just does not work properly. Was looking at the plastic cone and can easily see that if I tried to lay it flat, I can never really do that, unlike the cylinder. And that I cannot get rid of the crimps, the curvature in the cone.

Now, an interesting question and another proof that ellipse are cylinder sections, never conic, is that I can draw a ellipse on the surface of a sheet of paper then roll that paper into a cylinder and still manage to preserve the ellipse as ellipse once rolled up. Now as for the cone, we cannot preserve a ellipse drawn onto a cone surface and still be an ellipse. We can draw a square on a sheet of paper, roll it up to be a cylinder and preserve the square. We cannot do that to a cone.

The cone has what I call a spin innate spin or intrinsic spin, while the cylinder is still a Euclidean object and has no spin.

AP

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#413756 — No, AP, when you slice a cone from the apex, it will lie flat.

On Wednesday, May 23, 2018 at 10:31:04 PM UTC-7, Archimedes Plutonium wrote:
> On Thursday, May 24, 2018 at 12:14:32 AM UTC-5, Archimedes Plutonium wrote:
> > On Wednesday, May 23, 2018 at 5:11:53 PM UTC-5, Archimedes Plutonium wrote:
> > > 9TEACHING TRUE MATHEMATICS// Breakthrough in Conic Sections along with Physics//chapter 4 
> > > 
> > > Now I am doing physics simultaneously with math of conic sections, totally separate and independent of one another, except I have run into a intersection of the two, at this moment. This intersection is supporting evidence that the mind and brain of intelligent life is not chemically based machine, but is rather a radio receiver machine that picks up ideas and thoughts from out-of-body, photons shot from the Nucleus of the Atom Totality that gives every creature his/her/its ideas and thoughts of what to do next. Superdeterminism, no free will. 

Inspired rubbish.

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#413765 — No, fruitcake-- it never lies flat Re: No, AP, when you slice a cone from the apex, it will lie flat.

On Thursday, May 24, 2018 at 10:22:09 AM UTC-5, alouatta....@gmail.com wrote:

Fruitcake the reason a cylinder lies flat is because it has straightline symmetry of x and y axis

A cone has only a y axis straightline symmetry, not a x-axis straightline symmetry

But then Alouatta is a stalking creep not a math thinker

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#413766 — Poor AP. Can't use use scissors correctly. Holds them at the wrong end.

On Thursday, May 24, 2018 at 9:53:40 AM UTC-7, Archimedes Plutonium wrote:
> On Thursday, May 24, 2018 at 10:22:09 AM UTC-5, alouatta....@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> Fruitcake the reason a cylinder lies flat is because it has straightline symmetry of x and y axis
> 
> A cone has only a y axis straightline symmetry, not a x-axis straightline symmetry
> 
> But then Alouatta is a stalking creep not a math thinker

No, AP.  You don't hold the scissors at the pointed end.  Oh wait, maybe you're using blunted scissors for kids.  Be careful, anyway.

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#413757 — AP continues his assault on conic sections

On Wednesday, May 23, 2018 at 3:11:53 PM UTC-7, Archimedes Plutonium wrote:
> 9TEACHING TRUE MATHEMATICS// Breakthrough in Conic Sections along with Physics//chapter 4 
> 
> Now I am doing physics simultaneously with math of conic sections, totally separate and independent of one another, except I have run into a intersection of the two, at this moment. This intersection is supporting evidence that the mind and brain of intelligent life is not chemically based machine, but is rather a radio receiver machine that picks up ideas and thoughts from out-of-body, photons shot from the Nucleus of the Atom Totality that gives every creature his/her/its ideas and thoughts of what to do next. Superdeterminism, no free will. 

Wow!

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#413839

Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> writes:

>9TEACHING TRUE MATHEMATICS// Breakthrough in Conic Sections along with Physics//chapter 4

How's this for a breakthrough in conic sections?

Below you will find a simple *proof* that shows that certain conic 
sections are ellipses.

Some preliminaries:

Top view of the conic section and depiction of the coordinate system used 
in the proof:

              ^ x
              |
             -+- <= x=h
         .'   |   `.
        .     |     .
        |     |     |
        '     |     '      
         `.   |   .'
 y <----------+ <= x=0
             
Cone (side view):
                 .
                /|\
               / | \
              /b |  \
             /---+---' <= x = h
            /    |'   \
           /   ' |     \
          / '    |      \
x = 0 => '-------+-------\
        /    a   |        \

Proof:

r(x) = a - ((a-b)/h)x  and  d(x) = a - ((a+b)/h)x,  hence

y(x)^2 = r(x)^2 - d(x)^2 = ab - ab(2x/h - 1)^2 = ab(1 - 4(x - h/2)^2/h^2.

Hence (1/ab)y(x)^2 + (4/h^2)(x - h/2)^2 = 1  ...equation of an ellipse

qed

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#416268

Whats wrong with the proof that some conic sections 
are ellipse? Something with your kitchen sink?

Am Donnerstag, 24. Mai 2018 00:11:53 UTC+2 schrieb Archimedes Plutonium:
> 9TEACHING TRUE MATHEMATICS// Breakthrough in Conic Sections along with Physics//chapter 4 
> 
> Now I am doing physics simultaneously with math of conic sections, totally separate and independent of one another, except I have run into a intersection of the two, at this moment. This intersection is supporting evidence that the mind and brain of intelligent life is not chemically based machine, but is rather a radio receiver machine that picks up ideas and thoughts from out-of-body, photons shot from the Nucleus of the Atom Totality that gives every creature his/her/its ideas and thoughts of what to do next. Superdeterminism, no free will. 
> 
> So, I was looking for Maximum Electricity in a geometry configuration and found it in the tokamak Torus geometry and if you look at the Aufbau of elements, the chart of energy levels, you can make out that this Aufbau is itself a torus geometry. 
> 
> Now, a Cylinder is plane Euclidean geometry for if we take a plane sheet of paper and with one circular fold we have a cylinder. Now, if we could take that cylinder and bend it around without breaking or tearing it we would have a torus. With paper that is impossible but with closed loops as a cylinder with gaps in between consecutive loops we easily form a torus from a cylinder. And that is what Faraday coil is-- gaps between successive closed loops. 
> 
> Now, we constructed a Cylinder from a flat plane sheet of paper. Can we construct a cone from a flat plane sheet of paper? The question I am asking here is a devious question on my part, for if we had a cone of paper and cut it on one cut from base to height tip of cone in a straightline cut, can we fold that cut cone to lie perfectly flat? We can do the same thing with a cylinder, cut it, and it is a plane itself. But what is the cut cone? Is it ever able to be a flat Euclidean surface? Or is there some integral curvature to a cone, that a cone is impossible to lie flat in Euclidean geometry? And what do we call this integral curvature of cone? Do we call it as in physics-- a Cylinder has 0 spin while a cone has an intrinsic 1/2 spin. 
> 
> Now, further, can we lie a Cone flat, if we are given 2 straightline cuts, perhaps 4 straightline cuts where those 4 are somewhat triangle shaped? 
> 
> Now this is important for my physics, of torus and electricity, because the fill in of gaps between closed loops of the wire coil, so you can fold a cylinder to be a torus, those gaps are somewhat similar to the cone not being able to lie flat. 
> 
> So, what the Torus shape for maximum electricity, is the Aufbau, and each new proton and muons that build the elements, those are windings of a coil, and the gaps between proton windings, that empty space gap is the neutron windings. 
> 
> And the bar magnet which I have had a difficult time of understanding finally becomes clear, or more clear. The bar magnet to make maximum electricity in Faraday's law are all the lower energy levels themselves folded into a torus and that is the bar magnet. So for instance the first energy level of 1s in helium is a torus and then in beryllium is a 2s torus with the 1s torus inside it acting as bar magnet, then for 2p of neon, is a torus that has 2s torus inside 2p and the 1s torus inside of 2s. This makes sense if you want Maximum Electricity of Faraday law. And, it makes sense in that the Chemical Bond is a completion of a torus, such as say N2 molecule, where the partial filled torus of one Nitrogen atom's 2P is filled by the second nitrogen atom. Where one of the Nitrogen atom's 2P is a full torus with its 1S inside 2S inside the filled 2P and adjacent is the second Nitrogen atom as a torus of just 2S with 1S inside. This gets rid of Lewis structure altogether as merely a erroneous mnemonic device. 
> 
> Now for O2 we have one O filled of its 2P with toruses 2s and 1s inside the 2P torus, but with the second oxygen we have the 2S torus filled with 1S torus inside, but we have 2 extra valence muons left over and what they do is form a second 2S, call it the 2S_x and 2S_y. 
> 
> So, Chemistry bonding is altogether new and different, as a torus design. 
> 
> AP

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