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5#3-8 unification of straightline geometry with curved-chain geometry// Teaching True Mathematics

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  5#3-8 unification of straightline geometry with curved-chain geometry// Teaching True Mathematics Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2018-05-18 08:58 -0700
    Re: Archimedes "Failure" Plutonium flunks the lifelong Math test moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-05-18 16:25 +0000

#413331 — 5#3-8 unification of straightline geometry with curved-chain geometry// Teaching True Mathematics

FromArchimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com>
Date2018-05-18 08:58 -0700
Subject5#3-8 unification of straightline geometry with curved-chain geometry// Teaching True Mathematics
Message-ID<aa1fd314-9c31-4bc6-816e-c3d26b01c590@googlegroups.com>
Alright, in the below I am getting closer and closer to a unification, not only of conics with regular polyhedra but with all straightline figures versus curved-straightline chained figures. And what seems to be the unifying force involved is the act of Cutting or Sectioning. I am baffled as to why a cut is unifying in nature-- or is it that the cut is Projective Geometry.

Newsgroups: sci.math
Date: Thu, 17 May 2018 16:06:29 -0700 (PDT)

Subject: These ideas belong in my other quest to unify Conic sections with
 Regular Polyhedra Re: Experimenting with ellipse & oval tubes Teaching True Mathematics
From: Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium....@gmail.com>
Injection-Date: Thu, 17 May 2018 23:06:30 +0000


These ideas belong in my other quest to unify Conic sections with Regular Polyhedra Re: Experimenting with ellipse & oval tubes Teaching True Mathematics

Now these ideas expressed below are part of my quest to unify the Conic Sections with the Regular Polyhedra, but in a funny manner, I need to extend the Conic Sections to include Cylinder sections. I already added the square pyramid to the Regular Polyhedra, so the extension is not too out of place. 

On Thursday, May 17, 2018 at 1:10:17 PM UTC-5, Archimedes Plutonium wrote: 
> On Thursday, May 17, 2018 at 12:53:12 PM UTC-5, Archimedes Plutonium wrote: 
> > Alright, some really good progress on this front. 
> > 
> > On Wednesday, May 16, 2018 at 1:05:46 PM UTC-5, Archimedes Plutonium wrote: 
> > > On Wednesday, May 16, 2018 at 3:47:03 AM UTC-5, Archimedes Plutonium wrote: 
> > > > Ellipse tube sections seem to generate more ellipses 
> > > > 
> > > > Oval tube sections have the potential of generating all three possibilities— oval, circle, ellipse 
> > > > 
> > > > Sort of reminds me — square is a rectangle is a parallelogram 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > Now one can type in ellipse tube into google search and easily get pictures, but the trouble with Old Math, is the ignorant bards could never separate out-- oval is not a ellipse, could never refine that Oval has just one axis of symmetry. Through the centuries and milleniums of math history, everyone was brain-dead over the topic of oval versus ellipse. As if the muses came to earth and placed a huge shroud of fog into the minds of all those that ever came upon the topic of oval and ellipse, and made them nattering nutter dumb on the topic. 
> > > 
> > > So if you type in oval tube, you only get ellipse tubes. A ellipse tube has two axes of symmetry. A oval tube has just one axis of symmetry. 
> > > 
> > > Now, I have the conjecture that sectioning or cutting these three types of tubes yields these three different results. 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > type of tube         possible results from cuttings 
> > > 
> > > cone tube                circle, oval 
> > > 
> > > cylinder tube            circle, ellipse 
> > > 
> > > ellipse tube               ellipses only  ?? 
> > > 
> > > oval tube                  oval, ellipse, circle ?? 
> > > 

Trouble here is that for 3,000 years now, mathematics was under a delusion spell, a total mind blackout that ellipse is never a conic but rather-- the oval is. And being under that mind-black-out, no-one could even see that there were other geometry figures to examine and research. 

> > > Now I placed a question mark over the ones I am not sure of. So let that be a conjecture, that only the oval tube can afford the possible creation of all three figures, and the ellipse tube can only afford more ellipses. 
> > > 
> > > Now to help me unravel this mystery, I am trying to construct a dual similar geometry of straightline figures only such as square, rectangle , parallelogram with their 3D counterparts. Mind you, I am only doing this to gain insight into the above. 
> > > 
> > > type of tube                        possible results from cuttings 
> > > 
> > > cube                                            square, rectangle 
> > > 
> > > rectangular solid tube                rectangles only 
> > > 

Here I needed a pointed head figure like the cone is pointed head versus the cylinder. 

> > 
> > Here is much ambiguity for the above is only for a rectangle solid in which all three parameters x,y,z are different, but we know a rectangle solid like 3 by  2 by 2 can yield a square. 
> > 
> > So this needs tinkering 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > parallelogram tube                       parallelograms only ?? 
> > > 
> > > parallelepiped tube                       parallelograms only ?? 
> > > 

Again, here I needed a pointed head figure and the square pyramid is just the thing. 



> > > Seems to me there should be some 3D figure when cut, yields all three -- square, rectangle, parallelogram 
> > > But maybe that is impossible and thus the oval tube cut is not yielding circle, ellipse, oval 
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> > Alright, what I need is something with a "pointed head" like a cone to a cylinder. And for straightline only figures. And that is a square pyramid 
> > 
> > type of tube                        possible results from cuttings 
> > 
> > cube                                            square, rectangle 
> > 
> > square pyramid                           square, trapezoid, triangle 
> > 
> > triangle solid                              triangles only?? 
> 
> Alright, I have a tetrahedron dice sitting in front of me, and can visualize its cuts. I do see a trapezoid emerging as one of possible cuts. Not sure of one of those cuts could ever be a rectangle, I doubt it, but working things out in the head only is often erroneous. Need to actually make hands on cuts of a tetrahedron to see if a rectangle or square can emerge. 
> 

Please do not hold me to this, but I believe I can get a square and a rectangle out of a tetrahedron cut. 



> 
> > 
> > trapezoid solid                            trapezoids only?? 
> > 
> > There, that's better. 
> > 

I think the trapezoid solid sections would be like the Oval Tube sections in that they -- both of them can give rise to all the other figures of that category class. 

AP

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#413334 — Re: Archimedes "Failure" Plutonium flunks the lifelong Math test

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2018-05-18 16:25 +0000
SubjectRe: Archimedes "Failure" Plutonium flunks the lifelong Math test
Message-ID<pdmuqn$ncl$1@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#413331
Village Idiot Archimedes "Failure" Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> fails:

>Michael Moroney Anal ButtfuckManure stalker for 26 years

Thank you for requesting another Babble-o-meter Calculation!

(still a work in progress)

☑ Archie reposts the same old, same old, yet again...
☐ ...and again and again...
☐ ...and again and again...
☐ ...posted enough times to be classified as spam...
☑ ...Post has no new content, in fact...
☐ ...Archie's spam complains about other spammers or babblers...
☑ ...Purpose of post is to remain #1 Front Page Hog...
☐ .....meanwhile, Archie complains of some other "Front Page Hog"...
☑ ...Post contains The Truth because Archie said it is true...
☐ ...Post posted in the wrong topic...
☐ .....and to the wrong newsgroup...
☑ ...One word: Logorrhea...
☐ ...Author awards self Nobel Prize/claims he should be so awarded...
☐ .....Author rejects self-awarded Nobel, real awardees don't deserve it...
☐ ...Author "sour grapes" Nobel or other science/math prize...
☑ ...Post has science or math 100% made up from whole cloth...
☑ ...Post's science/math based on earlier whole cloth science/math...
☑ .....which was based on even earlier whole cloth science/math...
☑ .....which was, oh never mind...
☐ ...Phrases such as "Old Science" (actual science) and "New Science (babbling of author)...
☑ ...Another word: Graphomania...
☑ ...Author thinks a bad dream is an excellent basis for physics...
☑ ...Archie doesn't understand Usenet, not even after 26+ years...
☑ ...Archie asks Google Groups to do something they can't do... 
☑ ...Archie even thinks Google runs Usenet...
☑ .....even though Archie used Usenet even before there even was a Google...
☑ ...Archie won't engage in discussion in a discussion group...
☑ ...Writes "Keep out of my threads!"...
☐ ...Archie demands professors resign for not teaching his broken math...
☐ ...Author thinks cutting up magazines disproves actual math proofs...
☐ ...Archie outwitted by someone too stoopid to come out of the rain AGAIN...
☑ ...and Archie can't get over the shame of messing up percentages...
☑ ....he even still thinks 8.88 is "exactly" 9...
☐ ....and he thinks 16.81 is "spot on" 17...
☐ ...Archie is envious that I weighed the electron and he didn't...
☐ ...Post includes the dumb ascii art cat/owl thing...
☐ ...Post contains ascii art of Archie's butthole...
☐ ...and Archie doesn't realize ascii art is so 1980s...
☐ ...Archie tries to involve totally uninvolved people...
☐ .....with a subject about flunking a nonexistent test no one ever took...
☐ .....but has no clue they will never see his post...
☐ .....and has no clue they probably don't know what Usenet is...
☐ .....he expects them to have power/authority they simply don't...
☐ ...Post includes a stalker list of physics and/or math professors...
☑ ...Too stoopid to realize attack posts just produce more posts like this...
☑ ...Google Groups poster. 'Nuf said.

Archie's Babbling Nonsense score:  21 plutoniums!

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