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| Started by | Natividad Ślusarski <rsi@val.pl> |
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| First post | 2026-07-17 12:10 +0000 |
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Re: How is time really organized Natividad Ślusarski <rsi@val.pl> - 2026-07-17 12:10 +0000
Re: How is time really organized Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2026-07-18 00:40 +0200
Re: How is time really organized Cale Balabuha <eah@baal.ru> - 2026-07-17 23:04 +0000
Re: How is time really organized Ivo Balakirev <vaovb@kkrea.ru> - 2026-07-20 10:12 +0000
Re: How is time really organized Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2026-07-22 08:36 +0200
Re: How is time really organized Barton Valetov <btaovl@lln.ru> - 2026-07-23 12:54 +0000
Re: How is time really organized Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2026-07-23 15:54 +0200
Re: How is time really organized Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-07-23 08:31 -0700
Re: How is time really organized Fayv Bakharev <kerv@aaaah.ru> - 2026-07-23 18:10 +0000
Re: How is time really organized Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-07-23 15:16 -0700
Re: How is time really organized Dolph Bazulev <vblpb@vuu.ru> - 2026-07-23 21:16 +0000
Re: How is time really organized Vidal Bahovtsev <tald@lb.ru> - 2026-07-26 13:33 +0000
| From | Natividad Ślusarski <rsi@val.pl> |
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| Date | 2026-07-17 12:10 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: How is time really organized |
| Message-ID | <113d641$1n26c$1@news.nntp4.net> |
Maciej Woźniak wrote: > 2026-07-10 14:32:12.000000000 UTC. > This is time. no it's not; it's a event stamp regarding an unachievable reference of the past. Time is something completely else.
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| From | Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> |
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| Date | 2026-07-18 00:40 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <113eb13$1urvv$1@gwaiyur.mb-net.net> |
| In reply to | #646815 |
Natividad Ślusarski wrote: > Maciej Woźniak wrote: >> 2026-07-10 14:32:12.000000000 UTC. >> This is time. > > no it's not; it's a event stamp regarding an unachievable reference of the > past. Time is something completely else. In physics, there is such such thing as an "event stamp". An event is a point of (a) spacetime: it has a location in space and a time. The date above lacks a location, so it is just _a_ time (based on a time standard, UTC) -- but not time itself, which is a physical quantity. -- PointedEars Twitter: @PointedEars2 Please do not cc me. / Bitte keine Kopien per E-Mail.
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| From | Cale Balabuha <eah@baal.ru> |
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| Date | 2026-07-17 23:04 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <113ecdv$1p2m2$1@news.nntp4.net> |
| In reply to | #646818 |
the imbecile Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn extreme stupid once again: > Natividad Ślusarski wrote: >> Maciej Woźniak wrote: >>> 2026-07-10 14:32:12.000000000 UTC. >>> This is time. >> >> no it's not; it's a event stamp regarding an unachievable reference of >> the past. Time is something completely else. > > In physics, there is such such thing as an "event stamp". > > An event is a point of (a) spacetime: it has a location in space and a > time. you dont even capisce engilsh, you funking idiot. When about to register a timestamp, that's an event in physics and everywhere, you disgusting putrid sack of subhuman excrement. Get yourself a proper education and stop posting crap on usenet. Idiot.
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| From | Ivo Balakirev <vaovb@kkrea.ru> |
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| Date | 2026-07-20 10:12 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <113ksal$23ub3$2@news.nntp4.net> |
| In reply to | #646818 |
Thomas Heger wrote: >> In physics there is nobody interested in the reality. >> >> > I'm actually not quite sure what an 'event stamp' could possibly be. > > Usually points in space do not carry clocks or labels. imbecile, you are making points in space outside the spacetime. Neither this cretin doesnt undrestand what spacetime is. Let me guess, you too are half german, historically
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| From | Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> |
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| Date | 2026-07-22 08:36 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <ncb6nmFnn5gU8@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #646842 |
Am Montag000020, 20.07.2026 um 12:12 schrieb Ivo Balakirev: > Thomas Heger wrote: > >>> In physics there is nobody interested in the reality. >>> >>> >> I'm actually not quite sure what an 'event stamp' could possibly be. >> >> Usually points in space do not carry clocks or labels. > > imbecile, you are making points in space outside the spacetime. Neither > this cretin doesnt undrestand what spacetime is. Let me guess, you too are > half german, historically Well I live in Berlin, Germany, and have a German passport (only). But my ancestors came mainly from Silesia, which once was actually a part of Austria. At that time the borders were different and Germany didn't exist. My hometown was actually 'Altona', today a part of Hamburg (also Germany). Altona was (until quite recently) the second largest town of Denmark. Some ancestors came actually from 'Helgoland', which belonged to England. So, 'half German' is not quite possible, since Germans do not exist in halfs. The ancestors of current Germans, on the other hand, are usually distributed over half of Europe (and other parts of the world). TH
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| From | Barton Valetov <btaovl@lln.ru> |
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| Date | 2026-07-23 12:54 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <113t2u5$2hon6$1@news.nntp4.net> |
| In reply to | #646818 |
Paul B. Andersen wrote: > An event (point in time and space) does not depend on the arbitrary > choice of coordinate system in which it is defined. I chose to use a > geocentric coordinate system, but I might equally well have chosen to > use a heliocentric coordinate system, > or a local coordinate system with my desk as origin. > > The event is unique, and it is meaningless to call it geocentric', > 'heliocentric' or 'desk-centric'. yes, but it supposes you have another event as reference, both in time and space, otherwise there are no events
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| From | Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> |
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| Date | 2026-07-23 15:54 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <113t6dr$3qmim$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #646945 |
On 23/07/2026 14:54, Barton Valetov wrote: > Paul B. Andersen wrote: > >> An event (point in time and space) does not depend on the arbitrary >> choice of coordinate system in which it is defined. I chose to use a >> geocentric coordinate system, but I might equally well have chosen to >> use a heliocentric coordinate system, >> or a local coordinate system with my desk as origin. >> >> The event is unique, and it is meaningless to call it geocentric', >> 'heliocentric' or 'desk-centric'. > > yes, but it supposes you have another event as reference, both in time and > space, otherwise there are no events Or, said more technically, position is a torsor, and needs a coordinate system to become a number: only distance is independent of coordinates. Julio
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| From | Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2026-07-23 08:31 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <XlCdnQvBaKcmrv_3nZ2dnZfqn_idnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #646949 |
On 07/23/2026 06:54 AM, Julio Di Egidio wrote: > On 23/07/2026 14:54, Barton Valetov wrote: >> Paul B. Andersen wrote: >> >>> An event (point in time and space) does not depend on the arbitrary >>> choice of coordinate system in which it is defined. I chose to use a >>> geocentric coordinate system, but I might equally well have chosen to >>> use a heliocentric coordinate system, >>> or a local coordinate system with my desk as origin. >>> >>> The event is unique, and it is meaningless to call it geocentric', >>> 'heliocentric' or 'desk-centric'. >> >> yes, but it supposes you have another event as reference, both in time >> and >> space, otherwise there are no events > > Or, said more technically, position is a torsor, > and needs a coordinate system to become a number: > only distance is independent of coordinates. > > Julio > A "torsor" invokes "torsion", and it's really quite sensible, for example where "torsors" model "tensors", about space-contraction, and where the theory of relativity has real space-contraction and the theory of the quantum has real wave-collapse.
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| From | Fayv Bakharev <kerv@aaaah.ru> |
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| Date | 2026-07-23 18:10 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <113tlf7$2ioej$1@news.nntp4.net> |
| In reply to | #646818 |
The Starmaker wrote: > The whole entire universe is measured frame by frame. > Your problem is you are looking at the universe 'within' the frame. > The next frame is...blank. here's a sample BREAKING!!!! JUST NOW!!!!.The price of oil has surpassed over $100 dollars per barrel. What does this mean for US imperialists, it’s lackeys in the Middle East and for nations like Russia? For US imperialists, it will mean a much weaker dollar, as dollar is pegged to oil prices, for the Anglo Zionist lackeys such as Saudi Arabia, Kuwait or UAE it will mean that as the heroic Houthies have declared a blockade of Saudi ports, they will have big problems exporting their oil, raising even more the global price.
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| From | Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2026-07-23 15:16 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <8P-dnaCvSb-PDv_3nZ2dnZfqn_adnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #646960 |
On 07/23/2026 11:10 AM, Fayv Bakharev wrote: > The Starmaker wrote: > >> The whole entire universe is measured frame by frame. >> Your problem is you are looking at the universe 'within' the frame. >> The next frame is...blank. > > here's a sample > > BREAKING!!!! JUST NOW!!!!.The price of oil has surpassed over $100 dollars > per barrel. What does this mean for US imperialists, it’s lackeys in the > Middle East and for nations like Russia? For US imperialists, it will mean > a much weaker dollar, as dollar is pegged to oil prices, for the Anglo > Zionist lackeys such as Saudi Arabia, Kuwait or UAE it will mean that as > the heroic Houthies have declared a blockade of Saudi ports, they will > have big problems exporting their oil, raising even more the global price. > Maybe the mint and Fed and USG want a weak dollar, so they can buy all their bonds with all their gold before dragging down a City of Gold from the sky, or sifting it out of the ocean. Maybe that's the way he wants it. These days many economies have plants coming online that make gasoline from electricity, and air and water. Then, magnetic pump fusion ignitrons can make a lot of electricity. Though, the crooks and cronies and corrupt criminals have to be fed a lot of line to keep their ego stoked. Damnit this isn't relevant to the theory of relativity, which of course is ancient and way before the Galilean and later what Einstein made of "the relativity of motion", about doubly-objective relativity theory, of which usual old 20'th century relativity theory is a partial, incomplete example.
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| From | Dolph Bazulev <vblpb@vuu.ru> |
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| Date | 2026-07-23 21:16 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <113u0am$2j9et$1@news.nntp4.net> |
| In reply to | #646818 |
The Starmaker wrote: > Thomas Heger wrote: >> But those system are quite arbitrary, because you could possibly be >> somewhere else. >> >> TH > > Well, guys say here and now...and girls say this and that. > > So, I tell girls, you see this here, well I want that now! the tv capitalist jew trumpf is crapping hard into his pants now, worse than the smellensky Backup Trump, you’re watching a movie…central casting [92p5yoys3J3L].mp4
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| From | Vidal Bahovtsev <tald@lb.ru> |
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| Date | 2026-07-26 13:33 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <11452ad$2v4ij$1@news.nntp4.net> |
| In reply to | #646818 |
Thomas Heger wrote: > The hypersheet of the present is actually invisible, because we need > light so see something and that needs time to travel. no you dont, what you need is the temporarily interactions along the cells in your brain, still EM with a propagation delay along the chain, i guess a cca 10 msec attention threshold, but not light > But, unfortunately, you cannot know whether or not it has borders, > because you can't see in that direction. this is actually a correct assignment. Keep it up the good work.
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