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In the Binary Tree there ...

Started byWM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de>
First post2018-06-22 07:36 -0700
Last post2018-07-05 14:08 +0200
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  In the Binary Tree there ... WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-06-22 07:36 -0700
    Re: In the Binary Tree there ... Dan Christensen <Dan_Christensen@sympatico.ca> - 2018-06-22 07:46 -0700
    Re: In the Binary Tree there ... bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-06-22 08:00 -0700
      Re: In the Binary Tree there ... bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-06-22 08:07 -0700
        Re: In the Binary Tree there ... bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-06-22 08:12 -0700
          Re: In the Binary Tree there ... bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-06-22 08:21 -0700
            Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-06-22 08:33 -0700
    Re: In the Binary Tree there ... Dan Christensen <Dan_Christensen@sympatico.ca> - 2018-06-22 08:05 -0700
      Re: In the Binary Tree there ... WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-06-22 08:50 -0700
        Re: In the Binary Tree there ... Dan Christensen <Dan_Christensen@sympatico.ca> - 2018-06-22 09:26 -0700
          Re: In the Binary Tree there ... WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-06-22 09:36 -0700
            Re: In the Binary Tree there ... Dan Christensen <Dan_Christensen@sympatico.ca> - 2018-06-22 09:41 -0700
              Re: In the Binary Tree there ... WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-06-22 09:49 -0700
                Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-06-22 10:16 -0700
                Re: In the Binary Tree there ... Dan Christensen <Dan_Christensen@sympatico.ca> - 2018-06-22 10:23 -0700
                  Re: In the Binary Tree there ... WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-06-22 11:43 -0700
                    Re: In the Binary Tree there ... Dan Christensen <Dan_Christensen@sympatico.ca> - 2018-06-22 12:07 -0700
                      Re: In the Binary Tree there ... WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-06-23 03:11 -0700
                        Re: In the Binary Tree there ... Dan Christensen <Dan_Christensen@sympatico.ca> - 2018-06-23 06:10 -0700
                    Re: In the Binary Tree there ... bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-06-22 13:11 -0700
                      Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-06-22 13:19 -0700
                      Re: In the Binary Tree there ... WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-06-23 03:11 -0700
                        Re: In the Binary Tree there ... bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-06-23 04:55 -0700
                          Re: In the Binary Tree there ... bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-06-23 05:01 -0700
                            Re: In the Binary Tree there ... WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-06-23 06:40 -0700
                              Re: In the Binary Tree there ... bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-06-23 07:10 -0700
                                Re: In the Binary Tree there ... bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-06-23 07:13 -0700
            Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Shobe, Martin" <martin.shobe@yahoo.com> - 2018-06-22 18:47 -0500
              Re: In the Binary Tree there ... WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-06-23 03:11 -0700
                Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Shobe, Martin" <martin.shobe@yahoo.com> - 2018-06-23 07:32 -0500
                  Re: In the Binary Tree there ... WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-06-23 06:19 -0700
                    Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Shobe, Martin" <martin.shobe@yahoo.com> - 2018-06-24 09:26 -0500
                      Re: In the Binary Tree there ... WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-06-24 07:44 -0700
                        Re: In the Binary Tree there ... bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-06-24 08:00 -0700
                          Re: In the Binary Tree there ... bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-06-24 08:05 -0700
                          Re: In the Binary Tree there ... WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-06-24 08:14 -0700
                            Re: In the Binary Tree there ... bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-06-24 08:27 -0700
                              Re: In the Binary Tree there ... bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-06-24 08:36 -0700
                                Re: In the Binary Tree there ... bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-06-24 09:00 -0700
                        Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Shobe, Martin" <martin.shobe@yahoo.com> - 2018-06-25 20:46 -0500
                          Re: In the Binary Tree there ... WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-06-26 04:10 -0700
                            Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-06-26 13:34 -0700
                              Re: In the Binary Tree there ... bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-06-26 13:38 -0700
                                Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-06-26 14:01 -0700
                                  Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-06-26 14:14 -0700
                                  Re: In the Binary Tree there ... bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-06-26 14:23 -0700
                                    Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-06-26 14:26 -0700
                                      Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-06-26 14:38 -0700
                                        Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-06-26 15:24 -0700
                                          Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-06-26 15:28 -0700
                                          Re: In the Binary Tree there ... bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-06-26 15:33 -0700
                                            Re: In the Binary Tree there ... bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-06-26 15:51 -0700
                                              Re: In the Binary Tree there ... bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-06-26 15:59 -0700
                                            Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-06-26 16:09 -0700
                                              Re: In the Binary Tree there ... bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-06-26 16:23 -0700
                                                Re: In the Binary Tree there ... bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-06-26 16:29 -0700
                                                  Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-06-26 16:35 -0700
                                                    Re: In the Binary Tree there ... bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-06-26 16:47 -0700
                                                      Re: In the Binary Tree there ... bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-06-26 16:51 -0700
                                                        Re: In the Binary Tree there ... bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-06-26 16:53 -0700
                                                      Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-06-26 17:01 -0700
                                                        Re: In the Binary Tree there ... bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-06-26 17:14 -0700
                                                          Re: In the Binary Tree there ... bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-06-26 17:20 -0700
                                                            Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-06-26 17:27 -0700
                                                            Re: In the Binary Tree there ... bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-06-26 17:29 -0700
                                                              Re: In the Binary Tree there ... bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-06-26 17:35 -0700
                                                                Re: In the Binary Tree there ... bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-06-26 17:39 -0700
                                                                  Re: In the Binary Tree there ... bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-06-26 17:52 -0700
                                                                    Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-06-26 19:02 -0700
                                                                      Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-06-26 19:33 -0700
                                                                        Re: In the Binary Tree there ... bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-06-27 00:58 -0700
                                                                          Re: In the Binary Tree there ... bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-06-27 01:03 -0700
                                                                          Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-06-27 06:54 -0700
                                                        Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-06-26 17:19 -0700
                                            Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-06-26 20:48 -0700
                                              Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-06-26 21:13 -0700
                                    Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-06-26 14:33 -0700
                                    Re: In the Binary Tree there ... bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-06-26 14:34 -0700
                                      Re: In the Binary Tree there ... bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-06-26 14:49 -0700
                                        Re: In the Binary Tree there ... j4n bur53 <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2018-06-26 23:54 +0200
                              Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-06-26 14:00 -0700
                            Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Shobe, Martin" <martin.shobe@yahoo.com> - 2018-06-26 18:28 -0500
                              Re: In the Binary Tree there ... transfinity01@gmail.com - 2018-06-27 06:49 -0700
                                Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-06-27 07:05 -0700
                                  Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-06-27 07:44 -0700
                                    Re: In the Binary Tree there ... bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-06-27 07:53 -0700
                                      Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-06-27 08:07 -0700
                                        Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-06-27 08:39 -0700
                                Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Shobe, Martin" <martin.shobe@yahoo.com> - 2018-06-27 18:24 -0500
                                  Re: In the Binary Tree there ... transfinity01@gmail.com - 2018-06-28 06:56 -0700
                                    Re: In the Binary Tree there ... bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-06-28 07:00 -0700
                                    Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Shobe, Martin" <martin.shobe@yahoo.com> - 2018-06-28 15:58 -0500
                                      Re: In the Binary Tree there ... WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-06-29 06:23 -0700
                                        Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Shobe, Martin" <martin.shobe@yahoo.com> - 2018-06-29 18:40 -0500
                                          Re: In the Binary Tree there ... transfinity01@gmail.com - 2018-06-30 06:57 -0700
                                            Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Shobe, Martin" <martin.shobe@yahoo.com> - 2018-06-30 09:37 -0500
                          Re: In the Binary Tree there ... Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2018-06-26 05:41 -0700
                            Re: In the Binary Tree there ... Dan Christensen <Dan_Christensen@sympatico.ca> - 2018-06-26 06:33 -0700
                              Re: In the Binary Tree there ... Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2018-06-26 06:39 -0700
                                Re: In the Binary Tree there ... Dan Christensen <Dan_Christensen@sympatico.ca> - 2018-06-26 07:05 -0700
                            Re: In the Binary Tree there ... Alan Smaill <smaill@SPAMinf.ed.ac.uk> - 2018-06-26 16:38 +0100
                              Re: In the Binary Tree there ... Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2018-06-26 09:13 -0700
                                Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Shobe, Martin" <martin.shobe@yahoo.com> - 2018-06-26 18:32 -0500
                                Re: In the Binary Tree there ... Alan Smaill <smaill@SPAMinf.ed.ac.uk> - 2018-06-27 15:00 +0100
                            Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Shobe, Martin" <martin.shobe@yahoo.com> - 2018-06-26 18:31 -0500
                              Re: In the Binary Tree there ... Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2018-06-26 20:56 -0700
                                Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Shobe, Martin" <martin.shobe@yahoo.com> - 2018-06-27 18:25 -0500
                      Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-06-24 20:16 -0700
                        Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-06-24 20:21 -0700
    Re: In the Binary Tree there ... j4n bur53 <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2018-06-22 17:33 +0200
      Re: In the Binary Tree there ... bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-06-22 08:42 -0700
        Re: In the Binary Tree there ... bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-06-22 08:48 -0700
          Re: In the Binary Tree there ... WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-06-22 09:03 -0700
            Re: In the Binary Tree there ... bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-06-22 09:12 -0700
              Re: In the Binary Tree there ... WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-06-22 09:41 -0700
                Re: In the Binary Tree there ... bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-06-22 09:50 -0700
                  Re: In the Binary Tree there ... WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-06-22 09:56 -0700
                    Re: In the Binary Tree there ... j4n bur53 <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2018-06-22 19:16 +0200
                      Re: In the Binary Tree there ... j4n bur53 <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2018-06-22 19:23 +0200
      Re: In the Binary Tree there ... WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-06-22 08:58 -0700
        Re: In the Binary Tree there ... bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-06-22 09:00 -0700
    Re: In the Binary Tree there ... j4n bur53 <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2018-06-22 22:28 +0200
      Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-06-22 18:57 -0700
        Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-06-22 19:27 -0700
          Re: In the Binary Tree there ... Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2018-06-22 20:28 -0700
            Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-06-23 10:04 -0700
              Re: In the Binary Tree there ... bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-06-23 10:51 -0700
                Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-06-23 11:02 -0700
                  Re: In the Binary Tree there ... bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-06-23 11:04 -0700
                    Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-06-23 11:10 -0700
                      Re: In the Binary Tree there ... bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-06-23 11:52 -0700
                        Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-06-23 21:37 -0700
                          Re: In the Binary Tree there ... bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-06-24 03:42 -0700
                            Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-06-24 11:39 -0700
                              Re: In the Binary Tree there ... bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-06-24 11:55 -0700
                                Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-06-24 12:02 -0700
              Re: In the Binary Tree there ... Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2018-06-24 11:46 -0700
                Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-06-24 12:00 -0700
                  Re: In the Binary Tree there ... Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2018-06-24 12:39 -0700
                    Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-06-24 12:58 -0700
                      Re: In the Binary Tree there ... Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2018-06-24 13:09 -0700
                      Re: In the Binary Tree there ... Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2018-06-24 13:11 -0700
                        Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-06-24 14:13 -0700
                          Re: In the Binary Tree there ... Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2018-06-24 14:34 -0700
                            Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-06-24 14:58 -0700
                              Re: In the Binary Tree there ... Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2018-06-24 15:02 -0700
                                Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-06-24 15:12 -0700
                                  Re: In the Binary Tree there ... Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2018-06-24 15:14 -0700
                                    Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-06-24 15:30 -0700
                                      Re: In the Binary Tree there ... bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-06-24 16:01 -0700
                                        Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-06-24 22:00 -0700
          Re: In the Binary Tree there ... bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-06-22 20:28 -0700
            Re: In the Binary Tree there ... Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2018-06-22 20:29 -0700
              Re: In the Binary Tree there ... bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-06-22 20:31 -0700
                Re: In the Binary Tree there ... Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2018-06-22 20:33 -0700
                  Re: In the Binary Tree there ... bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-06-22 20:34 -0700
                    Re: In the Binary Tree there ... Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2018-06-22 20:35 -0700
                      Re: In the Binary Tree there ... bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-06-22 20:36 -0700
                        Re: In the Binary Tree there ... Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2018-06-22 20:39 -0700
                          Re: In the Binary Tree there ... bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-06-22 20:41 -0700
                            Re: In the Binary Tree there ... Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2018-06-22 20:45 -0700
            Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-06-22 22:16 -0700
    Re: In the Binary Tree there ... Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2018-06-22 20:21 -0700
    Re: In the Binary Tree there ... j4n bur53 <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2018-06-23 05:47 +0200
      Re: In the Binary Tree there ... Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2018-06-22 20:50 -0700
        Re: In the Binary Tree there ... j4n bur53 <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2018-06-23 05:54 +0200
          Re: In the Binary Tree there ... Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2018-06-22 20:59 -0700
            Re: In the Binary Tree there ... j4n bur53 <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2018-06-23 06:02 +0200
    Re: In the Binary Tree there ... Zelos Malum <zelos.malum@gmail.com> - 2018-06-24 22:58 -0700
      Re: In the Binary Tree there ... WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-06-25 02:42 -0700
        Re: In the Binary Tree there ... Zelos Malum <zelos.malum@gmail.com> - 2018-06-25 22:50 -0700
          Re: In the Binary Tree there ... WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-06-26 04:12 -0700
            Re: In the Binary Tree there ... Zelos Malum <zelos.malum@gmail.com> - 2018-06-26 23:05 -0700
              Re: In the Binary Tree there ... transfinity01@gmail.com - 2018-06-27 06:42 -0700
                Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Shobe, Martin" <martin.shobe@yahoo.com> - 2018-06-27 18:26 -0500
                  Re: In the Binary Tree there ... transfinity01@gmail.com - 2018-06-28 06:53 -0700
                    Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Shobe, Martin" <martin.shobe@yahoo.com> - 2018-06-28 16:00 -0500
                      Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-06-28 14:17 -0700
                      Re: In the Binary Tree there ... WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-06-28 14:55 -0700
                        Re: In the Binary Tree there ... Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-06-29 02:04 +0200
                        Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Shobe, Martin" <martin.shobe@yahoo.com> - 2018-06-28 19:36 -0500
                          Re: In the Binary Tree there ... WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-06-29 06:30 -0700
                            Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Shobe, Martin" <martin.shobe@yahoo.com> - 2018-06-29 18:45 -0500
                              Re: In the Binary Tree there ... transfinity01@gmail.com - 2018-06-30 06:57 -0700
                              Re: In the Binary Tree there ... transfinity01@gmail.com - 2018-06-30 07:03 -0700
                                Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Shobe, Martin" <martin.shobe@yahoo.com> - 2018-06-30 09:42 -0500
                                  Re: In the Binary Tree there ... WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-06-30 14:41 -0700
                                    Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Shobe, Martin" <martin.shobe@yahoo.com> - 2018-06-30 22:45 -0500
                                      Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-06-30 21:56 -0700
                                      Re: In the Binary Tree there ... WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-07-01 04:14 -0700
                                        Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-07-01 12:57 -0700
                                          Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-07-01 13:05 -0700
                                            Re: In the Binary Tree there ... WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-07-02 05:04 -0700
                                              Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-07-02 08:04 -0700
                                          Re: In the Binary Tree there ... WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-07-02 05:04 -0700
                                            Re: In the Binary Tree there ... bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-07-02 06:13 -0700
                                              Re: In the Binary Tree there ... WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-07-02 06:39 -0700
                                                Re: In the Binary Tree there ... bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-07-02 06:54 -0700
                                                  Re: In the Binary Tree there ... bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-07-02 06:59 -0700
                                                  Re: In the Binary Tree there ... WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-07-02 07:34 -0700
                                                    Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-07-02 08:25 -0700
                                                    Re: In the Binary Tree there ... bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-07-02 10:22 -0700
                                                      Re: In the Binary Tree there ... bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-07-02 10:35 -0700
                                                        Re: In the Binary Tree there ... WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-07-02 11:38 -0700
                                                        Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-07-02 11:44 -0700
                                                          Re: In the Binary Tree there ... bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-07-02 18:13 -0700
                                                      Re: In the Binary Tree there ... WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-07-02 11:38 -0700
                                        Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Shobe, Martin" <martin.shobe@yahoo.com> - 2018-07-01 20:37 -0500
                                          Re: In the Binary Tree there ... WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-07-02 11:39 -0700
                                            Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Shobe, Martin" <martin.shobe@yahoo.com> - 2018-07-02 18:50 -0500
                                              Re: In the Binary Tree there ... WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-07-03 05:49 -0700
                                                Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Shobe, Martin" <martin.shobe@yahoo.com> - 2018-07-03 19:26 -0500
                                                  Re: In the Binary Tree there ... WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-07-04 04:26 -0700
                                                    Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Shobe, Martin" <martin.shobe@yahoo.com> - 2018-07-04 20:31 -0500
                                                      Re: In the Binary Tree there ... WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-07-05 03:50 -0700
                                                        Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Shobe, Martin" <martin.shobe@yahoo.com> - 2018-07-05 06:22 -0500
                                                          Re: In the Binary Tree there ... WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-07-05 14:17 -0700
                                                            Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Shobe, Martin" <martin.shobe@yahoo.com> - 2018-07-05 17:24 -0500
                                                              Re: In the Binary Tree there ... WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-07-06 03:38 -0700
                                                                Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Shobe, Martin" <martin.shobe@yahoo.com> - 2018-07-06 18:23 -0500
                                                                  Re: In the Binary Tree there ... WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-07-07 03:25 -0700
                                                                    Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Shobe, Martin" <martin.shobe@yahoo.com> - 2018-07-07 16:41 -0500
                                                                      Re: In the Binary Tree there ... WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-07-08 05:20 -0700
                                                                        Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Shobe, Martin" <martin.shobe@yahoo.com> - 2018-07-08 21:42 -0500
                                                                          Re: In the Binary Tree there ... WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-07-09 05:09 -0700
                                                                            Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Shobe, Martin" <martin.shobe@yahoo.com> - 2018-07-09 18:40 -0500
                                                                              Re: In the Binary Tree there ... WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-07-10 01:47 -0700
                                                                                Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Shobe, Martin" <martin.shobe@yahoo.com> - 2018-07-10 18:26 -0500
                                                                                  Re: In the Binary Tree there ... WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-07-11 05:48 -0700
                                                                                    Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Shobe, Martin" <martin.shobe@yahoo.com> - 2018-07-11 11:21 -0500
                                                                                      Re: In the Binary Tree there ... WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-07-11 09:53 -0700
                                                                                        Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Shobe, Martin" <martin.shobe@yahoo.com> - 2018-07-11 17:06 -0500
                                                                                          Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-07-11 21:50 -0700
                                                                                            Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Shobe, Martin" <martin.shobe@yahoo.com> - 2018-07-12 14:51 -0500
                                                                                              Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-07-12 13:22 -0700
                                                                                                Re: In the Binary Tree there ... Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2018-07-12 20:43 -0700
                                                                                                  Re: In the Binary Tree there ... Alan Smaill <smaill@SPAMinf.ed.ac.uk> - 2018-07-13 10:54 +0100
                                                                                                    Re: In the Binary Tree there ... Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2018-07-13 04:17 -0700
                                                                                                      Re: In the Binary Tree there ... Alan Smaill <smaill@SPAMinf.ed.ac.uk> - 2018-07-13 12:34 +0100
                                                                                                        Re: In the Binary Tree there ... Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2018-07-13 04:49 -0700
                                                                                                        Re: In the Binary Tree there ... Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2018-07-13 04:51 -0700
                                                                                                          Re: In the Binary Tree there ... Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2018-07-13 05:06 -0700
                                                                                                            Re: In the Binary Tree there ... Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-07-13 15:17 +0200
                                                                                                    Re: In the Binary Tree there ... WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-07-13 04:46 -0700
                                                                                                  Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-07-13 14:38 -0700
                                                                                                    Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-07-13 14:46 -0700
                                                                                                    Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-07-13 14:56 -0700
                                                                                                      Re: In the Binary Tree there ... Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2018-07-13 15:23 -0700
                                                                                                    Re: In the Binary Tree there ... Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2018-07-13 15:15 -0700
                                                                                                      Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-07-13 15:39 -0700
                                                                                                        Re: In the Binary Tree there ... WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-07-14 05:14 -0700
                                                                                                          Re: In the Binary Tree there ... bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-07-14 06:52 -0700
                                                                                                            Re: In the Binary Tree there ... bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-07-14 06:54 -0700
                                                                                                              Re: In the Binary Tree there ... bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-07-14 06:58 -0700
                                                                                                            Re: In the Binary Tree there ... WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-07-14 09:52 -0700
                                                                                                              Re: In the Binary Tree there ... Alan Smaill <smaill@SPAMinf.ed.ac.uk> - 2018-07-16 15:47 +0100
                                                                                                          Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-07-24 22:48 -0700
                                                                                                Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-07-13 12:03 -0700
                                                                                                  Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-07-13 22:19 -0700
                                                                                              Re: In the Binary Tree there ... WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-07-13 04:41 -0700
                                                                                          Re: In the Binary Tree there ... WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-07-12 05:49 -0700
                                                                                            Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Shobe, Martin" <martin.shobe@yahoo.com> - 2018-07-12 14:53 -0500
                                                                                              Re: In the Binary Tree there ... WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-07-13 04:41 -0700
                                                                                                Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Shobe, Martin" <martin.shobe@yahoo.com> - 2018-07-14 15:57 -0500
                                                                                                  Re: In the Binary Tree there ... WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-07-15 04:38 -0700
                                                                                                    Re: In the Binary Tree there ... jrennenkampff@googlemail.com - 2018-07-15 05:39 -0700
                                                                                                      Re: In the Binary Tree there ... WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-07-15 06:30 -0700
                                                                                                    Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-07-15 15:32 -0700
                                                                                                    Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Shobe, Martin" <martin.shobe@yahoo.com> - 2018-07-15 22:06 -0500
                                                                                                      Re: In the Binary Tree there ... WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-07-16 05:00 -0700
                                                                                                        Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Shobe, Martin" <martin.shobe@yahoo.com> - 2018-07-16 07:51 -0500
                                                                                                          Re: In the Binary Tree there ... WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-07-16 06:12 -0700
                                                                                                            Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Shobe, Martin" <martin.shobe@yahoo.com> - 2018-07-16 15:58 -0500
                                                                                                              Re: In the Binary Tree there ... WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-07-17 05:27 -0700
                                                                                                                Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Shobe, Martin" <martin.shobe@yahoo.com> - 2018-07-18 21:03 -0500
                                                                                                                  Re: In the Binary Tree there ... WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-07-19 06:10 -0700
                                                                                                                    Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Shobe, Martin" <martin.shobe@yahoo.com> - 2018-07-19 22:03 -0500
                                                                                                                      Re: In the Binary Tree there ... Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2018-07-20 03:15 -0700
                                                                                                                      Re: In the Binary Tree there ... WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-07-20 05:12 -0700
                                                                                                                        Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Shobe, Martin" <martin.shobe@yahoo.com> - 2018-07-20 07:30 -0500
                                                                                                                        Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-07-20 13:52 -0700
                                                                                                                          Re: In the Binary Tree there ... bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-07-20 14:20 -0700
                                                                                        Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-07-11 21:38 -0700
                                                                                          Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-07-11 21:44 -0700
                                                                            Re: In the Binary Tree there ... Zelos Malum <zelos.malum@gmail.com> - 2018-07-11 06:45 -0700
                                                                              Re: In the Binary Tree there ... WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-07-11 08:13 -0700
                                                                                Re: In the Binary Tree there ... Zelos Malum <zelos.malum@gmail.com> - 2018-07-15 01:44 -0700
                                                                                  Re: In the Binary Tree there ... WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-07-15 04:38 -0700
                                                                                    Re: In the Binary Tree there ... Zelos Malum <zelos.malum@gmail.com> - 2018-07-15 21:10 -0700
                                                                                      Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-07-15 21:21 -0700
                                                                                        Re: In the Binary Tree there ... FromTheRafters <erratic@nomail.afraid.org> - 2018-07-16 09:21 -0400
                                                                                          Re: In the Binary Tree there ... WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-07-16 06:48 -0700
                                                                                            Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-07-16 13:35 -0700
                                                                                              Re: In the Binary Tree there ... WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-07-17 05:20 -0700
                                                                                                Re: In the Binary Tree there ... Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2018-07-17 05:29 -0700
                                                                                                  Re: In the Binary Tree there ... WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-07-17 10:53 -0700
                                                                                                    Re: In the Binary Tree there ... Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2018-07-17 11:31 -0700
                                                                                                Re: In the Binary Tree there ... Zelos Malum <zelos.malum@gmail.com> - 2018-07-17 22:39 -0700
                                                                                                  Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-07-17 22:47 -0700
                                                                                                    Re: In the Binary Tree there ... FromTheRafters <erratic@nomail.afraid.org> - 2018-07-18 06:17 -0400
                                                                                                      Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-07-18 09:16 -0700
                                                                                                  Re: In the Binary Tree there ... WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-07-18 06:12 -0700
                                                                                                    Re: In the Binary Tree there ... Alan Smaill <smaill@SPAMinf.ed.ac.uk> - 2018-07-18 17:11 +0100
                                                                                                      Re: In the Binary Tree there ... WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-07-19 05:37 -0700
                                                                                                        Re: In the Binary Tree there ... Alan Smaill <smaill@SPAMinf.ed.ac.uk> - 2018-07-20 12:20 +0100
                                                                                                          Re: In the Binary Tree there ... WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-07-20 05:03 -0700
                                                                                                            Re: In the Binary Tree there ... Alan Smaill <smaill@SPAMinf.ed.ac.uk> - 2018-07-20 14:33 +0100
                                                                                                              Re: In the Binary Tree there ... WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-07-20 11:41 -0700
                                                                                                                Re: In the Binary Tree there ... Alan Smaill <smaill@SPAMinf.ed.ac.uk> - 2018-07-21 20:58 +0100
                                                                                                                  Re: In the Binary Tree there ... WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-07-22 06:16 -0700
                                                                                                                    Re: In the Binary Tree there ... Alan Smaill <smaill@SPAMinf.ed.ac.uk> - 2018-07-22 15:49 +0100
                                                                                                                      Re: In the Binary Tree there ... WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-07-23 06:21 -0700
                                                                                                                        Re: In the Binary Tree there ... Alan Smaill <smaill@SPAMinf.ed.ac.uk> - 2018-07-23 14:52 +0100
                                                                                                                          Re: In the Binary Tree there ... WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-07-23 10:12 -0700
                                                                                                                            Re: In the Binary Tree there ... Alan Smaill <smaill@SPAMinf.ed.ac.uk> - 2018-07-23 18:38 +0100
                                                                                                                              Re: In the Binary Tree there ... WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-07-24 06:58 -0700
                                                                                                                                Re: In the Binary Tree there ... bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-07-24 13:47 -0700
                                                                                                                                  Re: In the Binary Tree there ... WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-07-25 04:26 -0700
                                                                                                                                    Re: In the Binary Tree there ... Alan Smaill <smaill@SPAMinf.ed.ac.uk> - 2018-07-25 14:02 +0100
                                                                                                                                      Re: In the Binary Tree there ... transfinity01@gmail.com - 2018-07-25 06:20 -0700
                                                                                                                                        Re: In the Binary Tree there ... Alan Smaill <smaill@SPAMinf.ed.ac.uk> - 2018-07-25 16:41 +0100
                                                                                                                                          Re: In the Binary Tree there ... WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-07-25 09:45 -0700
                                                                                                                                            Re: In the Binary Tree there ... Alan Smaill <smaill@SPAMinf.ed.ac.uk> - 2018-07-25 19:42 +0100
                                                                                                                                              Re: In the Binary Tree there ... WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-07-26 03:52 -0700
                                                                                                                                                Re: In the Binary Tree there ... Alan Smaill <smaill@SPAMinf.ed.ac.uk> - 2018-07-26 14:36 +0100
                                                                                                                                                  Re: In the Binary Tree there ... transfinity01@gmail.com - 2018-07-26 07:26 -0700
                                                                                                                                                    Re: In the Binary Tree there ... Alan Smaill <smaill@SPAMinf.ed.ac.uk> - 2018-07-26 15:36 +0100
                                                                                                                                                      Re: In the Binary Tree there ... transfinity01@gmail.com - 2018-07-26 09:38 -0700
                                                                                                                                                      Re: In the Binary Tree there ... FredJeffries <fredjeffries@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 11:37 -0700
                                                                                                                                                        Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 12:21 -0700
                                                                                                                                                          Re: In the Binary Tree there ... bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-07-26 14:35 -0700
                                                                                                                                                            Re: In the Binary Tree there ... bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-07-26 14:41 -0700
                                                                                                                                                              Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 15:13 -0700
                                                                                                                                                    Re: In the Binary Tree there ... Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-07-26 16:42 +0200
                                                                                                                                        Re: In the Binary Tree there ... bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-07-25 12:35 -0700
                                                                                                                                          Re: In the Binary Tree there ... WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-07-26 03:50 -0700
                                                                                                                                Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "K_h" <KHolmes@SX729.com> - 2018-07-24 19:03 -0700
                                                                                                                                  Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-07-24 20:23 -0700
                                                                                                                                  Re: In the Binary Tree there ... WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-07-25 04:35 -0700
                                                                                                                                    Re: In the Binary Tree there ... Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-07-25 13:45 +0200
                                                                                                                                      Re: In the Binary Tree there ... transfinity01@gmail.com - 2018-07-25 06:24 -0700
                                                                                                                                        Re: In the Binary Tree there ... Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-07-25 15:29 +0200
                                                                                                                                        Re: In the Binary Tree there ... Jürgen R. <jurgenr@web.de> - 2018-07-25 21:51 +0200
                                                                                                                                          Re: In the Binary Tree there ... bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-07-25 12:57 -0700
                                                                                                                                          Re: In the Binary Tree there ... WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-07-26 03:47 -0700
                                                                                                                                            Re: In the Binary Tree there ... Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-07-26 12:58 +0200
                                                                                                                                              Re: In the Binary Tree there ... WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-07-26 05:32 -0700
                                                                                                                                                Re: In the Binary Tree there ... Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-07-26 14:36 +0200
                                                                                                                                                Re: In the Binary Tree there ... Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-07-26 14:40 +0200
                                                                                                                                                  Re: In the Binary Tree there ... bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-07-26 06:56 -0700
                                                                                                                                                    Re: In the Binary Tree there ... transfinity01@gmail.com - 2018-07-26 07:28 -0700
                                                                                                                                                      Re: In the Binary Tree there ... bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-07-26 07:32 -0700
                                                                                                                                                Re: In the Binary Tree there ... Alan Smaill <smaill@SPAMinf.ed.ac.uk> - 2018-07-26 14:24 +0100
                                                                                                                                                  Re: In the Binary Tree there ... transfinity01@gmail.com - 2018-07-26 07:26 -0700
                                                                                                                                                    Re: In the Binary Tree there ... Alan Smaill <smaill@SPAMinf.ed.ac.uk> - 2018-07-26 15:43 +0100
                                                                                                                                                      Re: In the Binary Tree there ... transfinity01@gmail.com - 2018-07-26 09:38 -0700
                                                                                                                                                        Re: In the Binary Tree there ... Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-07-26 18:46 +0200
                                                                                                                                                        Re: In the Binary Tree there ... Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-07-26 18:50 +0200
                                                                                                                                              Re: In the Binary Tree there ... WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-07-26 05:36 -0700
                                                                                                                                                Re: In the Binary Tree there ... Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-07-26 14:42 +0200
                                                                                                                                                  Re: In the Binary Tree there ... transfinity01@gmail.com - 2018-07-26 07:30 -0700
                                                                                                                                                    Re: In the Binary Tree there ... Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-07-26 16:41 +0200
                                                                                                                                                Re: In the Binary Tree there ... jrennenkampff@googlemail.com - 2018-07-27 05:34 -0700
                                                                                                                                                  Re: In the Binary Tree there ... transfinity01@gmail.com - 2018-07-27 06:43 -0700
                                                                                                                                                    Re: In the Binary Tree there ... jrennenkampff@googlemail.com - 2018-07-29 04:14 -0700
                                                                                                                                        Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-07-25 14:02 -0700
                                                                                                                                          Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-07-25 14:13 -0700
                                                                                                                                    Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "K_h" <KHolmes@SX729.com> - 2018-07-26 11:33 -0700
                                                                                                                                      Re: In the Binary Tree there ... transfinity01@gmail.com - 2018-07-27 04:17 -0700
                                                                                                                                        Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "K_h" <KHolmes@SX729.com> - 2018-07-27 12:03 -0700
                                                                                                                                          Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 13:03 -0700
                                                                                                                                          Re: In the Binary Tree there ... transfinity01@gmail.com - 2018-07-28 05:58 -0700
                                                                                                                                            Re: In the Binary Tree there ... Zeit Geist <Tucsondrew@me.com> - 2018-07-28 14:15 -0700
                                                                                                                                              Re: In the Binary Tree there ... WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-07-29 04:06 -0700
                                                                                                                                                Re: In the Binary Tree there ... Zeit Geist <Tucsondrew@me.com> - 2018-07-29 12:27 -0700
                                                                                                                                                Re: In the Binary Tree there ... bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-07-30 01:35 -0700
                                                                                                                                                  Re: In the Binary Tree there ... WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-07-30 04:39 -0700
                                                                                                                                                    Re: In the Binary Tree there ... bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-07-30 07:32 -0700
                                                                                                                                                      Re: In the Binary Tree there ... bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-07-30 07:39 -0700
                                                                                                                                                        Re: In the Binary Tree there ... bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-07-30 07:46 -0700
                                                                                                                                                      Re: In the Binary Tree there ... WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-07-30 09:09 -0700
                                                                                                                                                        Re: In the Binary Tree there ... Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-07-30 18:15 +0200
                                                                                                                                                          Re: In the Binary Tree there ... WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-07-30 11:36 -0700
                                                                                                                                                            Re: In the Binary Tree there ... bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-07-30 11:45 -0700
                                                                                                                                                              Re: In the Binary Tree there ... bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-07-30 11:48 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                Re: In the Binary Tree there ... bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-07-30 12:03 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: In the Binary Tree there ... bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-07-30 12:11 -0700
                                                                                                                                                              Re: In the Binary Tree there ... WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-07-31 04:05 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                Re: In the Binary Tree there ... bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-07-31 04:48 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: In the Binary Tree there ... WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-07-31 05:25 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                    Re: In the Binary Tree there ... bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-07-31 10:02 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-07-31 12:47 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                    Re: In the Binary Tree there ... bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-07-31 12:59 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                      Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-07-31 14:01 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                        Re: In the Binary Tree there ... bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-07-31 14:27 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                        Re: In the Binary Tree there ... bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-07-31 15:10 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                          Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-07-31 15:51 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                            Re: In the Binary Tree there ... bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-07-31 17:14 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                              Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-07-31 20:44 -0700
                                                                                                                                                            Re: In the Binary Tree there ... Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-07-31 14:45 +0200
                                                                                                                                            Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "K_h" <KHolmes@SX729.com> - 2018-07-28 16:12 -0700
                                                                                                                                              Re: In the Binary Tree there ... WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-07-29 04:40 -0700
                                                                                                                                                Re: In the Binary Tree there ... FredJeffries <fredjeffries@gmail.com> - 2018-07-29 11:55 -0700
                                                                                                                                                Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "K_h" <KHolmes@SX729.com> - 2018-07-29 22:19 -0700
                                                                                                                                                  Re: In the Binary Tree there ... WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-07-30 04:38 -0700
                                                                                                                                                    Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "K_h" <KHolmes@SX729.com> - 2018-07-30 13:48 -0700
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                                                                                                                                                        Re: In the Binary Tree there ... Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-07-31 14:42 +0200
                                                                                                                                                        Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "K_h" <KHolmes@SX729.com> - 2018-07-31 20:52 -0700
                                                                                                                                                          Re: In the Binary Tree there ... transfinity01@gmail.com - 2018-08-01 03:50 -0700
                                                                                                                                                            Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-08-01 22:14 -0700
                                                                                                                                                              Re: In the Binary Tree there ... FredJeffries <fredjeffries@gmail.com> - 2018-08-02 16:29 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-08-02 16:35 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-08-02 22:55 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: In the Binary Tree there ... Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-08-03 11:59 +0200
                                                                                                                                                                    Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-08-03 09:46 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                      Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-08-03 11:04 -0700
                                                                                                                                                          Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-08-01 22:10 -0700
                                                                                                                                        Re: In the Binary Tree there ... Zeit Geist <Tucsondrew@me.com> - 2018-07-27 14:38 -0700
                                                                                                                                          Re: In the Binary Tree there ... transfinity01@gmail.com - 2018-07-28 05:44 -0700
                                                                                                                                            Re: In the Binary Tree there ... Zeit Geist <Tucsondrew@me.com> - 2018-07-28 14:12 -0700
                                                                                                                                              Re: In the Binary Tree there ... WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-07-29 04:06 -0700
                                                                                                                                                Re: In the Binary Tree there ... Zeit Geist <Tucsondrew@me.com> - 2018-07-29 12:29 -0700
                                                                                      Re: In the Binary Tree there ... WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-07-16 05:05 -0700
                                                                                        Re: In the Binary Tree there ... bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-07-16 05:12 -0700
                                                                                        Re: In the Binary Tree there ... jrennenkampff@googlemail.com - 2018-07-16 05:27 -0700
                                                                                          Re: In the Binary Tree there ... WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-07-16 06:07 -0700
                                                                                        Re: In the Binary Tree there ... Zelos Malum <zelos.malum@gmail.com> - 2018-07-16 23:08 -0700
                                                                                          Re: In the Binary Tree there ... WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-07-17 06:24 -0700
                                                                                            Re: In the Binary Tree there ... Mike Hart <gmoralesor@gmail.com> - 2018-07-17 08:42 -0700
                                                                                              Re: In the Binary Tree there ... WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-07-17 10:52 -0700
                                                                                            Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-07-17 16:25 -0700
                                                                                              Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-07-17 23:28 -0700
                                                                                                Re: In the Binary Tree there ... bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-07-18 05:16 -0700
                                                                                                  Re: In the Binary Tree there ... bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-07-18 05:29 -0700
                                                                                                    Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-07-18 09:45 -0700
                                                                                                      Re: In the Binary Tree there ... bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-07-18 12:12 -0700
                                                                                                        Re: In the Binary Tree there ... bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-07-18 12:17 -0700
                                                                                                          Re: In the Binary Tree there ... bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-07-18 12:30 -0700
                                                                                                            Re: In the Binary Tree there ... bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-07-18 12:46 -0700
                                                                                                            Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-07-18 12:47 -0700
                                                                                                              Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-07-18 12:59 -0700
                                                                                                                Re: In the Binary Tree there ... bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-07-18 13:27 -0700
                                                                                                                  Re: In the Binary Tree there ... bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-07-18 13:30 -0700
                                                                                                                  Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-07-18 13:43 -0700
                                                                                                                    Re: In the Binary Tree there ... bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-07-18 14:27 -0700
                                                                                                                      Re: In the Binary Tree there ... bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-07-18 14:31 -0700
                                                                                                                        Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-07-18 15:10 -0700
                                                                                                        Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-07-18 12:42 -0700
                                                          Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-07-05 20:51 -0700
                                                            Re: In the Binary Tree there ... WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-07-06 03:46 -0700
                                                              Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-07-06 13:02 -0700
                                                            Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Shobe, Martin" <martin.shobe@yahoo.com> - 2018-07-06 18:25 -0500
                                                              Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-07-06 16:29 -0700
                Re: In the Binary Tree there ... Zelos Malum <zelos.malum@gmail.com> - 2018-06-27 22:27 -0700
                  Re: In the Binary Tree there ... transfinity01@gmail.com - 2018-06-28 06:52 -0700
                    Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-06-28 14:25 -0700
                      Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-06-28 16:21 -0700
                      Re: In the Binary Tree there ... WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-06-29 06:30 -0700
                        Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-06-30 21:54 -0700
                          Re: In the Binary Tree there ... FredJeffries <fredjeffries@gmail.com> - 2018-07-01 11:37 -0700
                            Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-07-02 13:10 -0700
                              Re: In the Binary Tree there ... FredJeffries <fredjeffries@gmail.com> - 2018-07-02 14:38 -0700
                                Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-07-02 14:47 -0700
                                  Re: In the Binary Tree there ... FredJeffries <fredjeffries@gmail.com> - 2018-07-02 18:06 -0700
                                    Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-07-21 15:22 -0700
                    Re: In the Binary Tree there ... Zelos Malum <zelos.malum@gmail.com> - 2018-06-28 22:37 -0700
                      Re: In the Binary Tree there ... WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-06-29 06:36 -0700
                        Re: In the Binary Tree there ... bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-06-29 07:45 -0700
                          Re: In the Binary Tree there ... bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-06-29 07:52 -0700
                            Re: In the Binary Tree there ... transfinity01@gmail.com - 2018-06-29 12:57 -0700
                              Re: In the Binary Tree there ... bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-06-29 16:56 -0700
                                Re: In the Binary Tree there ... bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-06-29 17:01 -0700
                                  Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-06-29 18:23 -0700
                                    Re: In the Binary Tree there ... Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-06-30 14:47 +0200
                                      Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-06-30 09:46 -0700
                                Re: In the Binary Tree there ... transfinity01@gmail.com - 2018-06-30 07:13 -0700
                        Re: In the Binary Tree there ... Zelos Malum <zelos.malum@gmail.com> - 2018-07-03 02:09 -0700
                          Re: In the Binary Tree there ... WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-07-03 06:03 -0700
                            Re: In the Binary Tree there ... Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-07-03 15:11 +0200
                            Re: In the Binary Tree there ... Zelos Malum <zelos.malum@gmail.com> - 2018-07-04 01:50 -0700
                              Re: In the Binary Tree there ... WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-07-04 04:30 -0700
                                Re: In the Binary Tree there ... jrennenkampff@googlemail.com - 2018-07-04 05:06 -0700
                                  Re: In the Binary Tree there ... WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-07-05 03:45 -0700
                                    Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-07-05 20:53 -0700
                                      Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-07-05 20:58 -0700
                                      Re: In the Binary Tree there ... WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-07-06 03:46 -0700
                                        Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-07-06 13:06 -0700
                                Re: In the Binary Tree there ... Zelos Malum <zelos.malum@gmail.com> - 2018-07-05 01:51 -0700
                                  Re: In the Binary Tree there ... WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-07-05 03:54 -0700
                                    Re: In the Binary Tree there ... Zelos Malum <zelos.malum@gmail.com> - 2018-07-05 04:55 -0700
                                      Re: In the Binary Tree there ... WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-07-05 14:20 -0700
                                        Re: In the Binary Tree there ... Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-07-06 02:31 +0200
                                        Re: In the Binary Tree there ... Zelos Malum <zelos.malum@gmail.com> - 2018-07-06 02:18 -0700
                                          Re: In the Binary Tree there ... WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-07-06 03:54 -0700
    Re: In the Binary Tree there ... wpihughes@gmail.com - 2018-07-04 20:37 -0700
      Re: In the Binary Tree there ... WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-07-05 04:04 -0700
        Re: In the Binary Tree there ... wpihughes@gmail.com - 2018-07-05 04:26 -0700
          Re: In the Binary Tree there ... WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-07-05 14:10 -0700
            Re: In the Binary Tree there ... wpihughes@gmail.com - 2018-07-05 16:26 -0700
              Re: In the Binary Tree there ... WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-07-06 03:42 -0700
                Re: In the Binary Tree there ... wpihughes@gmail.com - 2018-07-06 08:03 -0700
                  Re: In the Binary Tree there ... WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-07-06 11:40 -0700
                    Re: In the Binary Tree there ... wpihughes@gmail.com - 2018-07-06 12:03 -0700
                      Re: In the Binary Tree there ... WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-07-06 14:24 -0700
                        Re: In the Binary Tree there ... wpihughes@gmail.com - 2018-07-06 15:18 -0700
                        Re: In the Binary Tree there ... wpihughes@gmail.com - 2018-07-06 15:41 -0700
                          Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-07-06 15:59 -0700
                          Re: In the Binary Tree there ... WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-07-07 03:42 -0700
                            Re: In the Binary Tree there ... wpihughes@gmail.com - 2018-07-07 05:40 -0700
                              Re: In the Binary Tree there ... WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-07-07 06:18 -0700
                                Re: In the Binary Tree there ... wpihughes@gmail.com - 2018-07-07 06:52 -0700
                                Re: In the Binary Tree there ... wpihughes@gmail.com - 2018-07-07 07:03 -0700
                                  Re: In the Binary Tree there ... WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-07-07 10:21 -0700
                                    Re: In the Binary Tree there ... wpihughes@gmail.com - 2018-07-07 12:18 -0700
                                      Re: In the Binary Tree there ... WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-07-08 05:09 -0700
                                        Re: In the Binary Tree there ... wpihughes@gmail.com - 2018-07-08 07:53 -0700
                                          Re: In the Binary Tree there ... WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-07-08 08:17 -0700
                                            Re: In the Binary Tree there ... Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-07-08 17:29 +0200
                                            Re: In the Binary Tree there ... wpihughes@gmail.com - 2018-07-08 09:07 -0700
                                              Re: In the Binary Tree there ... WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-07-08 09:50 -0700
                                                Re: In the Binary Tree there ... wpihughes@gmail.com - 2018-07-08 10:45 -0700
                                                  Re: In the Binary Tree there ... WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-07-09 04:58 -0700
                                                    Re: In the Binary Tree there ... Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-07-09 14:31 +0200
                                                    Re: In the Binary Tree there ... wpihughes@gmail.com - 2018-07-09 07:42 -0700
                                                      Re: In the Binary Tree there ... WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-07-09 08:45 -0700
                                                        Re: In the Binary Tree there ... wpihughes@gmail.com - 2018-07-09 08:59 -0700
                                                          Re: In the Binary Tree there ... bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-07-09 09:21 -0700
                                                          Re: In the Binary Tree there ... WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-07-10 01:47 -0700
                                                            Re: In the Binary Tree there ... wpihughes@gmail.com - 2018-07-10 08:11 -0700
                                                            Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-07-10 13:01 -0700
                                                              Re: In the Binary Tree there ... WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-07-11 05:37 -0700
                                                                Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-07-11 14:00 -0700
                                                            Re: In the Binary Tree there ... wpihughes@gmail.com - 2018-07-10 13:24 -0700
                                                              Re: In the Binary Tree there ... WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-07-11 05:57 -0700
                                                                Re: In the Binary Tree there ... wpihughes@gmail.com - 2018-07-11 07:02 -0700
                                                                Re: In the Binary Tree there ... wpihughes@gmail.com - 2018-07-11 07:19 -0700
                                                                  Re: In the Binary Tree there ... WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-07-11 08:15 -0700
                                                                    Re: In the Binary Tree there ... wpihughes@gmail.com - 2018-07-11 08:46 -0700
                                                                      Re: In the Binary Tree there ... WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-07-11 09:54 -0700
                                                                        Re: In the Binary Tree there ... wpihughes@gmail.com - 2018-07-11 10:31 -0700
                                                        Re: In the Binary Tree there ... Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2018-07-09 10:12 -0700
                                                          Re: In the Binary Tree there ... WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-07-10 01:54 -0700
                                                            Re: In the Binary Tree there ... Alan Smaill <smaill@SPAMinf.ed.ac.uk> - 2018-07-10 15:33 +0100
                                                              Re: In the Binary Tree there ... Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2018-07-10 07:45 -0700
                                                                Re: In the Binary Tree there ... Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-07-10 16:50 +0200
                                                                  Re: In the Binary Tree there ... Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2018-07-10 08:00 -0700
                                                                    Re: In the Binary Tree there ... Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-07-10 17:05 +0200
                                                                Re: In the Binary Tree there ... Alan Smaill <smaill@SPAMinf.ed.ac.uk> - 2018-07-10 16:11 +0100
                                                                  Re: In the Binary Tree there ... Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2018-07-10 08:22 -0700
                                                                    Re: In the Binary Tree there ... Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2018-07-10 08:34 -0700
                                                                      Re: In the Binary Tree there ... Alan Smaill <smaill@SPAMinf.ed.ac.uk> - 2018-07-11 19:06 +0100
                                                                    Re: In the Binary Tree there ... Alan Smaill <smaill@SPAMinf.ed.ac.uk> - 2018-07-10 16:58 +0100
                                                                      Re: In the Binary Tree there ... Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2018-07-10 09:03 -0700
                                                                  Re: In the Binary Tree there ... WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-07-11 05:34 -0700
                                                                    Re: In the Binary Tree there ... Alan Smaill <smaill@SPAMinf.ed.ac.uk> - 2018-07-11 15:29 +0100
                                                                      Re: In the Binary Tree there ... WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-07-11 08:31 -0700
                                                                        Re: In the Binary Tree there ... Alan Smaill <smaill@SPAMinf.ed.ac.uk> - 2018-07-11 17:02 +0100
                                                                          Re: In the Binary Tree there ... WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-07-11 09:44 -0700
                                                                            Re: In the Binary Tree there ... Alan Smaill <smaill@SPAMinf.ed.ac.uk> - 2018-07-17 13:56 +0100
                                                                              Re: In the Binary Tree there ... WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-07-17 11:04 -0700
                                                                                Re: In the Binary Tree there ... Alan Smaill <smaill@SPAMinf.ed.ac.uk> - 2018-07-17 19:38 +0100
                                                                                  Re: In the Binary Tree there ... Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2018-07-17 11:52 -0700
                                                                                    Re: In the Binary Tree there ... Alan Smaill <smaill@SPAMinf.ed.ac.uk> - 2018-07-18 16:53 +0100
                                                                                      Re: In the Binary Tree there ... FredJeffries <fredjeffries@gmail.com> - 2018-07-18 09:46 -0700
                                                                                      Re: In the Binary Tree there ... Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2018-07-18 10:05 -0700
                                                                                        Re: In the Binary Tree there ... Alan Smaill <smaill@SPAMinf.ed.ac.uk> - 2018-07-18 18:54 +0100
                                                                                          Re: In the Binary Tree there ... Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2018-07-18 11:16 -0700
                                                                                            Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-07-18 11:42 -0700
                                                                                              Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-07-18 13:14 -0700
                                                                                            Re: In the Binary Tree there ... Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-07-19 02:02 +0200
                                                                                      Re: In the Binary Tree there ... WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-07-19 05:28 -0700
                                                                                        Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-07-19 13:40 -0700
                                                                                        Re: In the Binary Tree there ... Alan Smaill <smaill@SPAMinf.ed.ac.uk> - 2018-07-20 11:54 +0100
                                                                                          Re: In the Binary Tree there ... Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2018-07-20 04:41 -0700
                                                                                            Re: In the Binary Tree there ... Alan Smaill <smaill@SPAMinf.ed.ac.uk> - 2018-07-20 13:01 +0100
                                                                                              Re: In the Binary Tree there ... Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2018-07-20 10:27 -0700
                                                                                                Re: In the Binary Tree there ... Alan Smaill <smaill@SPAMinf.ed.ac.uk> - 2018-07-21 20:49 +0100
                                                                                                  Re: In the Binary Tree there ... Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2018-07-22 23:51 -0700
                                                                                                    Re: In the Binary Tree there ... Alan Smaill <smaill@SPAMinf.ed.ac.uk> - 2018-07-23 14:45 +0100
                                                                                          Re: In the Binary Tree there ... WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-07-20 05:52 -0700
                                                                                            Re: In the Binary Tree there ... Alan Smaill <smaill@SPAMinf.ed.ac.uk> - 2018-07-20 14:36 +0100
                                                                                              Re: In the Binary Tree there ... WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-07-20 11:44 -0700
                                                                                                Re: In the Binary Tree there ... bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-07-20 11:56 -0700
                                                                                                  Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-07-20 13:25 -0700
                                                                                                  Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-07-20 13:33 -0700
                                                                                                Re: In the Binary Tree there ... Alan Smaill <smaill@SPAMinf.ed.ac.uk> - 2018-07-21 21:11 +0100
                                                                                                  Re: In the Binary Tree there ... WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-07-22 06:07 -0700
                                                                                                    Re: In the Binary Tree there ... bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-07-22 07:42 -0700
                                                                                    Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-07-18 16:00 -0700
                                                                                      Re: In the Binary Tree there ... Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2018-07-18 19:17 -0700
                                                                                        Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-07-18 19:19 -0700
                                                                                          Re: In the Binary Tree there ... Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2018-07-18 19:23 -0700
                                                                                            Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Shobe, Martin" <martin.shobe@yahoo.com> - 2018-07-19 22:05 -0500
                                                                                              Re: In the Binary Tree there ... Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2018-07-20 03:12 -0700
                                                                                  Re: In the Binary Tree there ... WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-07-18 05:58 -0700
                                                                                    Re: In the Binary Tree there ... bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-07-18 06:19 -0700
                                                                                      Re: In the Binary Tree there ... bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-07-18 06:28 -0700
                                                                                      Re: In the Binary Tree there ... WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-07-19 05:28 -0700
                                                                                        Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-07-19 13:42 -0700
                                                                                          Re: In the Binary Tree there ... bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-07-19 13:55 -0700
                                                                                            Re: In the Binary Tree there ... bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-07-19 14:05 -0700
                                                                                              Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-07-19 14:20 -0700
                                                                                                Re: In the Binary Tree there ... bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-07-19 15:08 -0700
                                                                                                  Re: In the Binary Tree there ... bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-07-19 15:15 -0700
                                                                                          Re: In the Binary Tree there ... WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-07-20 05:43 -0700
                                                                                            Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-07-20 13:36 -0700
                                                                                    Re: In the Binary Tree there ... Alan Smaill <smaill@SPAMinf.ed.ac.uk> - 2018-07-18 17:04 +0100
                                                                                      Re: In the Binary Tree there ... WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-07-19 05:33 -0700
                                                                                        Re: In the Binary Tree there ... Alan Smaill <smaill@SPAMinf.ed.ac.uk> - 2018-07-20 12:08 +0100
                                                                                          Re: In the Binary Tree there ... WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-07-20 06:14 -0700
                                                                                            Re: In the Binary Tree there ... bursejan@gmail.com - 2018-07-20 06:21 -0700
                                                                                            Re: In the Binary Tree there ... Alan Smaill <smaill@SPAMinf.ed.ac.uk> - 2018-07-20 16:04 +0100
                                                                                              Re: In the Binary Tree there ... WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-07-20 11:53 -0700
                                                                                                Re: In the Binary Tree there ... Alan Smaill <smaill@SPAMinf.ed.ac.uk> - 2018-07-21 21:21 +0100
                                                                                                  Re: In the Binary Tree there ... WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-07-22 05:59 -0700
                                                                                                    Re: In the Binary Tree there ... Alan Smaill <smaill@SPAMinf.ed.ac.uk> - 2018-07-22 15:39 +0100
                                                                                                      Re: In the Binary Tree there ... WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-07-23 06:21 -0700
                                                                                                        Re: In the Binary Tree there ... Alan Smaill <smaill@SPAMinf.ed.ac.uk> - 2018-07-23 15:10 +0100
                                                                                                          Re: In the Binary Tree there ... WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-07-23 10:19 -0700
                                              Re: In the Binary Tree there ... WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-07-08 09:51 -0700
                                                Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-07-08 10:50 -0700
                                                  Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-07-08 13:38 -0700
                                                    Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-07-08 14:03 -0700
                                                      Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-07-08 15:19 -0700
                                                    Re: In the Binary Tree there ... WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-07-09 04:58 -0700
                                                      Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-07-09 22:28 -0700
                                                        Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-07-10 13:34 -0700
                                                          Re: In the Binary Tree there ... "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2018-07-10 14:47 -0700
                                            Re: In the Binary Tree there ... Zelos Malum <zelos.malum@gmail.com> - 2018-07-09 01:34 -0700
                                              Re: In the Binary Tree there ... WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-07-09 04:59 -0700
                                                Re: In the Binary Tree there ... Zelos Malum <zelos.malum@gmail.com> - 2018-07-11 06:44 -0700
                        Re: In the Binary Tree there ... Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-07-07 01:58 +0200
                          Re: In the Binary Tree there ... WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-07-07 03:27 -0700
            Re: In the Binary Tree there ... Alan Smaill <smaill@SPAMinf.ed.ac.uk> - 2018-07-06 11:32 +0100
              Re: In the Binary Tree there ... WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> - 2018-07-06 03:53 -0700
                Re: In the Binary Tree there ... Alan Smaill <smaill@SPAMinf.ed.ac.uk> - 2018-07-06 12:27 +0100
        Re: In the Binary Tree there ... Python <python@python.invalid> - 2018-07-05 14:08 +0200

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#418548

Frombursejan@gmail.com
Date2018-07-19 13:55 -0700
Message-ID<75fd37e3-47ba-4c0f-82d8-08b63741be1c@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#418547
If you use a desired level of precision,
you simply get another real number x', such that:

  |x - x'| < e      if you look at absolute error

  |x - x'|
  |------| < e      if you look at relative error
  |  x   |

But a real number is not a multitude of objects,
with varying precision. Not automatically,

only if the limit of these precision objects
x'1, x'2, x'3, ... is the real number itself:

    lim n->oo x'n = x

Not very helpful...

An infinite normalized sequence, can be
directly taken as a real number, so to speak

with "infinite" precision. And then you might
step over real numbers (in mathematics) that do 

not have effective (on the computer) precision 
approximations. For example the Specker real number:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Specker_sequence

Am Donnerstag, 19. Juli 2018 22:42:20 UTC+2 schrieb Chris M. Thomasson:
> On 7/19/2018 5:28 AM, WM wrote:
> > Am Mittwoch, 18. Juli 2018 15:19:19 UTC+2 schrieb burs...@gmail.com:
> >> The real number is defined from sequence not
> >> from formula.
> > 
> > A definition needs an end signal. An infinite sequence has not. So it cannot define a real number.
> 
> It can be used to help define a real number using a desired level of 
> precision.
> 
> 
> > But even that mistaken view can be contradicted since in the Binary Tree there are only countably many different infinite sequences / paths.

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#418550

Frombursejan@gmail.com
Date2018-07-19 14:05 -0700
Message-ID<f7210d13-a4e7-4655-ba8c-6f1a1011bbb2@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#418548
Not very helpful, because (x'1, x'2, x'3, ...)
is again an infinite sequence. So you didn't

get rid of infinite sequences.

Am Donnerstag, 19. Juli 2018 22:56:08 UTC+2 schrieb burs...@gmail.com:
> If you use a desired level of precision,
> you simply get another real number x', such that:
> 
>   |x - x'| < e      if you look at absolute error
> 
>   |x - x'|
>   |------| < e      if you look at relative error
>   |  x   |
> 
> But a real number is not a multitude of objects,
> with varying precision. Not automatically,
> 
> only if the limit of these precision objects
> x'1, x'2, x'3, ... is the real number itself:
> 
>     lim n->oo x'n = x
> 
> Not very helpful...
> 
> An infinite normalized sequence, can be
> directly taken as a real number, so to speak
> 
> with "infinite" precision. And then you might
> step over real numbers (in mathematics) that do 
> 
> not have effective (on the computer) precision 
> approximations. For example the Specker real number:
> 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Specker_sequence
> 
> Am Donnerstag, 19. Juli 2018 22:42:20 UTC+2 schrieb Chris M. Thomasson:
> > On 7/19/2018 5:28 AM, WM wrote:
> > > Am Mittwoch, 18. Juli 2018 15:19:19 UTC+2 schrieb burs...@gmail.com:
> > >> The real number is defined from sequence not
> > >> from formula.
> > > 
> > > A definition needs an end signal. An infinite sequence has not. So it cannot define a real number.
> > 
> > It can be used to help define a real number using a desired level of 
> > precision.
> > 
> > 
> > > But even that mistaken view can be contradicted since in the Binary Tree there are only countably many different infinite sequences / paths.

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#418552

From"Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid>
Date2018-07-19 14:20 -0700
Message-ID<piqvan$muc$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#418550
On 7/19/2018 2:05 PM, bursejan@gmail.com wrote:
> Not very helpful, because (x'1, x'2, x'3, ...)
> is again an infinite sequence. So you didn't
> 
> get rid of infinite sequences.
[...]

I was not trying to get rid of infinite sequences.

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#418553

Frombursejan@gmail.com
Date2018-07-19 15:08 -0700
Message-ID<4e51bd60-cf65-4e8d-ba64-1537357edf40@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#418552
Its much easier in the binary tree. The branches can
be viewed as subsets of N. No need to deal with
real numbers.

So why is there no end signal? Because some subsets
of N are infinite. And a tree has a very special
property, namely, a finite subset can be view

as a branch which has first the finite pattern
of the subset some 0 and 1, and the infinitely
many zeros 0....

So a finite subset p is a special branch:


      *
       \ some 0 and 1
        +--------------------------   p
                          all zeros

So a tree has now the proberty that an infinite
union of ascending finite sets p1, p2, ..., exists 
in the form of an infinite set q which is also a branch.

Visually its very easy, the ascending finite sets are:

      *
       \ 
        +-----+------------------------------------   p1
               \ 
                +--------+-------------------------   p2
                          \
                           +-----+-----------------   p3
                                  \
                                   +---- .
                                          .
                                           .

the infinite union is simply this branch:

      *
       \ 
        +-----+
               \ 
                +--------+
                          \
                           +-----+
                                  \
                                   +------ .
                                            .
                                             .  q


Real numbers are similar. But lets stick to P(N)
and spot the error of an end signal in the logic
of Augsburg Crank institute.

What is the end signal in q? Some horn sounding
by Volkswagen Omlette? The last audio of the Titanic?
The church bell from Augsburg?

Am Donnerstag, 19. Juli 2018 23:20:29 UTC+2 schrieb Chris M. Thomasson:
> On 7/19/2018 2:05 PM, bursejan@gmail.com wrote:
> > Not very helpful, because (x'1, x'2, x'3, ...)
> > is again an infinite sequence. So you didn't
> > 
> > get rid of infinite sequences.
> [...]
> 
> I was not trying to get rid of infinite sequences.

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#418554

Frombursejan@gmail.com
Date2018-07-19 15:15 -0700
Message-ID<7f2b110c-8b2c-4eb7-9ae2-4ab351898b38@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#418553
Whats this end-signal? AP brain fartos infinity
border 10^604? The number of electrons in the universe?
Hells Bells by AC/DC?

AC/DC - Hells Bells (Official Video)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etAIpkdhU9Q

In mathematics and infinite sequence and branches
of the bineary tree do not have an end-signal.
And they are the object of Cantors theorem.

And not some definable subsets of N. That definable
subsets of N are incomplete, is already seen by
the example I gave. Here I simply equated

a definable subset of N with finite subset of
N. But a tree is much richer. A tree and P(A) has
this property guarded by union axiom of set theory:

  X subset P(A) => U X in P(A)      /* 1 */

The union axiom doesn't say it directly:

  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axiom_of_union

Homework: Prove /* 1 */ in FOL+ZFC. Or maybe
use Dan Christensens DC Proof to prove it.

Am Freitag, 20. Juli 2018 00:08:23 UTC+2 schrieb burs...@gmail.com:
> Its much easier in the binary tree. The branches can
> be viewed as subsets of N. No need to deal with
> real numbers.
> 
> So why is there no end signal? Because some subsets
> of N are infinite. And a tree has a very special
> property, namely, a finite subset can be view
> 
> as a branch which has first the finite pattern
> of the subset some 0 and 1, and the infinitely
> many zeros 0....
> 
> So a finite subset p is a special branch:
> 
> 
>       *
>        \ some 0 and 1
>         +--------------------------   p
>                           all zeros
> 
> So a tree has now the proberty that an infinite
> union of ascending finite sets p1, p2, ..., exists 
> in the form of an infinite set q which is also a branch.
> 
> Visually its very easy, the ascending finite sets are:
> 
>       *
>        \ 
>         +-----+------------------------------------   p1
>                \ 
>                 +--------+-------------------------   p2
>                           \
>                            +-----+-----------------   p3
>                                   \
>                                    +---- .
>                                           .
>                                            .
> 
> the infinite union is simply this branch:
> 
>       *
>        \ 
>         +-----+
>                \ 
>                 +--------+
>                           \
>                            +-----+
>                                   \
>                                    +------ .
>                                             .
>                                              .  q
> 
> 
> Real numbers are similar. But lets stick to P(N)
> and spot the error of an end signal in the logic
> of Augsburg Crank institute.
> 
> What is the end signal in q? Some horn sounding
> by Volkswagen Omlette? The last audio of the Titanic?
> The church bell from Augsburg?
> 
> Am Donnerstag, 19. Juli 2018 23:20:29 UTC+2 schrieb Chris M. Thomasson:
> > On 7/19/2018 2:05 PM, bursejan@gmail.com wrote:
> > > Not very helpful, because (x'1, x'2, x'3, ...)
> > > is again an infinite sequence. So you didn't
> > > 
> > > get rid of infinite sequences.
> > [...]
> > 
> > I was not trying to get rid of infinite sequences.

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#418616

FromWM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de>
Date2018-07-20 05:43 -0700
Message-ID<a4822fb4-2849-434f-8c29-4642d8c65322@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#418547
Am Donnerstag, 19. Juli 2018 22:42:20 UTC+2 schrieb Chris M. Thomasson:
> On 7/19/2018 5:28 AM, WM wrote:
> > Am Mittwoch, 18. Juli 2018 15:19:19 UTC+2 schrieb burs...@gmail.com:
> >> The real number is defined from sequence not
> >> from formula.
> > 
> > A definition needs an end signal. An infinite sequence has not. So it cannot define a real number.
> 
> It can be used to help define a real number using a desired level of 
> precision.

You will never define more than a rational interval. Never pi.

Regards, WM

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#418669

From"Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid>
Date2018-07-20 13:36 -0700
Message-ID<pith46$1d0$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#418616
On 7/20/2018 5:43 AM, WM wrote:
> Am Donnerstag, 19. Juli 2018 22:42:20 UTC+2 schrieb Chris M. Thomasson:
>> On 7/19/2018 5:28 AM, WM wrote:
>>> Am Mittwoch, 18. Juli 2018 15:19:19 UTC+2 schrieb burs...@gmail.com:
>>>> The real number is defined from sequence not
>>>> from formula.
>>>
>>> A definition needs an end signal. An infinite sequence has not. So it cannot define a real number.
>>
>> It can be used to help define a real number using a desired level of
>> precision.
> 
> You will never define more than a rational interval. Never pi.

We can define a finite snapshot of a portion of pi. Convergents of 
continued fractions can help define a rational that can describe any 
number up to a finite level of precision.

real = 577 / 408 = 1.41421 wrt 5 digits of precision. Any more 
precision, and it differs from the target irrational at sqrt(2).

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#418371

FromAlan Smaill <smaill@SPAMinf.ed.ac.uk>
Date2018-07-18 17:04 +0100
Message-ID<fwe601ccyyn.fsf@foxtrot.inf.ed.ac.uk>
In reply to#418324
WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> writes:

> Am Dienstag, 17. Juli 2018 20:40:08 UTC+2 schrieb Alan Smaill:
>
>> > The reals in the list are only rationals, since they must be
>> > represented by their digits (for this proof) and that cannot yield
>> > irrationals.
>> 
>> Wrong; a finitely specified algorithm can very well supply a potentially
>> infinite stream of digits:  for example for the square root of 2.
>> And you accept already that this is in fact can be shown to be an
>> irrational number.
>
> But the list contains only the digit sequence since the diagonal
> argument requires the digit a_nn. 

That is not the situation I specified. The whole figure has a single
finitely given specification.  The specification is such that
mth digit of the nth entry can be shown to be assigned to a unique digit.
So, obviously, the figure is not given directly by digits.

> Further, yes I accept that the algorithm can supply every digit. But
> every digit belongs to a rational approximation. The complete digit
> sequence is not possible to give. Therefore I said that the algorithm
> or formule is the number.

You think I am saying something different??

> "Formula gives Sequence". The inversion "Sequence gives Formula" is
> false. But the list contains only the sequence, so it does not contain
> the number. Or put in other words: It is impossible from the list
> entry to find the number represented.

So what? If you have a single algorithmic description of the grid,
then you can use that to give a single algorithmic description
of the diagonal.  There is no going from the list to the number involved.

>
> Regards, WM
>
>

-- 
Alan Smaill

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#418502

FromWM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de>
Date2018-07-19 05:33 -0700
Message-ID<0457319c-397c-4fd2-8a94-c9e5d407e323@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#418371
Am Mittwoch, 18. Juli 2018 18:05:07 UTC+2 schrieb Alan Smaill:
> WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> writes:
> 
> > Am Dienstag, 17. Juli 2018 20:40:08 UTC+2 schrieb Alan Smaill:
> >
> >> > The reals in the list are only rationals, since they must be
> >> > represented by their digits (for this proof) and that cannot yield
> >> > irrationals.
> >> 
> >> Wrong; a finitely specified algorithm can very well supply a potentially
> >> infinite stream of digits:  for example for the square root of 2.
> >> And you accept already that this is in fact can be shown to be an
> >> irrational number.
> >
> > But the list contains only the digit sequence since the diagonal
> > argument requires the digit a_nn. 
> 
> That is not the situation I specified. The whole figure has a single
> finitely given specification.  The specification is such that
> mth digit of the nth entry can be shown to be assigned to a unique digit.
> So, obviously, the figure is not given directly by digits.

But the entries are.
> 
> > Further, yes I accept that the algorithm can supply every digit. But
> > every digit belongs to a rational approximation. The complete digit
> > sequence is not possible to give. Therefore I said that the algorithm
> > or formule is the number.
> 
> You think I am saying something different??

No, I have seen that you agree. But Cantor's list needs numbers defined by digits, for instance the diagonal. And of course every irrational you wish to use there an an entry.
> 
> > "Formula gives Sequence". The inversion "Sequence gives Formula" is
> > false. But the list contains only the sequence, so it does not contain
> > the number. Or put in other words: It is impossible from the list
> > entry to find the number represented.
> 
> So what? If you have a single algorithmic description of the grid,

You mean that every entry is defined by a formula like in the list

0.1
0.11
0.111
...
?
Then the list and also its diagonal belong to the countable set of finite definitions.

> then you can use that to give a single algorithmic description
> of the diagonal.

and prove it is a member of the countable set of all finite definitions.

Regards, WM

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#418604

FromAlan Smaill <smaill@SPAMinf.ed.ac.uk>
Date2018-07-20 12:08 +0100
Message-ID<fwelga6nozt.fsf@foxtrot.inf.ed.ac.uk>
In reply to#418502
WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> writes:

> Am Mittwoch, 18. Juli 2018 18:05:07 UTC+2 schrieb Alan Smaill:
>> WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> writes:
>> 
>> > Am Dienstag, 17. Juli 2018 20:40:08 UTC+2 schrieb Alan Smaill:
>> >
>> >> > The reals in the list are only rationals, since they must be
>> >> > represented by their digits (for this proof) and that cannot yield
>> >> > irrationals.
>> >> 
>> >> Wrong; a finitely specified algorithm can very well supply a potentially
>> >> infinite stream of digits:  for example for the square root of 2.
>> >> And you accept already that this is in fact can be shown to be an
>> >> irrational number.
>> >
>> > But the list contains only the digit sequence since the diagonal
>> > argument requires the digit a_nn. 
>> 
>> That is not the situation I specified. The whole figure has a single
>> finitely given specification.  The specification is such that
>> mth digit of the nth entry can be shown to be assigned to a unique digit.
>> So, obviously, the figure is not given directly by digits.
>
> But the entries are.

No, they are not.
Where do ypu get that from?

As I said at the start, this is all set up using *your* terminology
(as far as I understand it).  It even says immeediately above "The whole
figure has a single finitely given specification".  In that case,
you can work out what the definition of a particular row from the
overall definition, given a half-sensible definition language.


>> > Further, yes I accept that the algorithm can supply every digit. But
>> > every digit belongs to a rational approximation. The complete digit
>> > sequence is not possible to give. Therefore I said that the algorithm
>> > or formule is the number.
>> 
>> You think I am saying something different??
>
> No, I have seen that you agree. But Cantor's list needs numbers
> defined by digits, for instance the diagonal. And of course every
> irrational you wish to use there an an entry.

On the basis of a finite definition only.

>> > "Formula gives Sequence". The inversion "Sequence gives Formula" is
>> > false. But the list contains only the sequence, so it does not contain
>> > the number. Or put in other words: It is impossible from the list
>> > entry to find the number represented.
>> 
>> So what? If you have a single algorithmic description of the grid,
>
> You mean that every entry is defined by a formula like in the list
>
> 0.1
> 0.11
> 0.111
> ...
> ?
> Then the list and also its diagonal belong to the countable set of
> finite definitions.

No, I do not know what else is in that diagram.
Can you give a formula D(x,y) where D(x,y) is either 0 or 1,
and indicates which digit appears as the yth digit of the xth line?

>> then you can use that to give a single algorithmic description
>> of the diagonal.
>
> and prove it is a member of the countable set of all finite definitions.

Come now, no proof needed to say that the set of definitions is countable.

Try proving that the antidiagonal differs from each entry in the
original diagram, in the same way that sqrt(2) =/= n/m, regardless of
what naturals n,m are.

This is not a claim about cardinality, please do not jump
to that conclusion.



> Regards, WM

-- 
Alan Smaill

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#418621

FromWM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de>
Date2018-07-20 06:14 -0700
Message-ID<b032e454-1d69-47c8-aa22-fa2978a9dc5d@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#418604
Am Freitag, 20. Juli 2018 13:10:07 UTC+2 schrieb Alan Smaill:
> WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> writes:


> >> > Further, yes I accept that the algorithm can supply every digit. But
> >> > every digit belongs to a rational approximation. The complete digit
> >> > sequence is not possible to give. Therefore I said that the algorithm
> >> > or formule is the number.
> >> 
> >> You think I am saying something different??
> >
> > No, I have seen that you agree. But Cantor's list needs numbers
> > defined by digits, for instance the diagonal. And of course every
> > irrational you wish to use there an an entry.
> 
> On the basis of a finite definition only.

Is the following example possible?: Row n contains 1/sqrt(n).


> >
> > You mean that every entry is defined by a formula like in the list
> >
> > 0.1
> > 0.11
> > 0.111
> > ...
> > ?
> > Then the list and also its diagonal belong to the countable set of
> > finite definitions.
> 
> No, I do not know what else is in that diagram.

"..." say: and so on.

> Can you give a formula D(x,y) where D(x,y) is either 0 or 1,
> and indicates which digit appears as the yth digit of the xth line?

After the decimal point: D(x, y) = 1 for y =< x, otherwise 0.
> 
> >> then you can use that to give a single algorithmic description
> >> of the diagonal.
> >
> > and prove it is a member of the countable set of all finite definitions.
> 
> Come now, no proof needed to say that the set of definitions is countable.
The set of finite strings is countable. Definitions are a subset.
> 
> Try proving that the antidiagonal differs from each entry in the
> original diagram, in the same way that sqrt(2) =/= n/m, regardless of
> what naturals n,m are.

For my simple example the case is obvious. The antidagonal of

0.000...
0.1000...
0.11000...
0.111000...
...

can be taken as 0.111...

It is only then infinite, when the list has infinitely many lines and infinitely many columns. But then the number 0.111... must be in the list already, since otherwise infinitely many columns must contain entries ending with infinitely many zeros and the diagonal will not cover all columns.

Regards, WM

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#418622

Frombursejan@gmail.com
Date2018-07-20 06:21 -0700
Message-ID<abd52ab1-e041-46d3-8b59-76061c67239d@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#418621
Nope, |N| < |P(N)|, so its not possible to list
infinite bit sequences. There is no listing
f : N -> P(N), which is surjective.

Because for any such listing, the diagonal:

  d = { x in N | x not in f(x) }

will be missing.

Am Freitag, 20. Juli 2018 15:14:09 UTC+2 schrieb WM:
> Am Freitag, 20. Juli 2018 13:10:07 UTC+2 schrieb Alan Smaill:
> > WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> writes:
> 
> 
> > >> > Further, yes I accept that the algorithm can supply every digit. But
> > >> > every digit belongs to a rational approximation. The complete digit
> > >> > sequence is not possible to give. Therefore I said that the algorithm
> > >> > or formule is the number.
> > >> 
> > >> You think I am saying something different??
> > >
> > > No, I have seen that you agree. But Cantor's list needs numbers
> > > defined by digits, for instance the diagonal. And of course every
> > > irrational you wish to use there an an entry.
> > 
> > On the basis of a finite definition only.
> 
> Is the following example possible?: Row n contains 1/sqrt(n).
> 
> 
> > >
> > > You mean that every entry is defined by a formula like in the list
> > >
> > > 0.1
> > > 0.11
> > > 0.111
> > > ...
> > > ?
> > > Then the list and also its diagonal belong to the countable set of
> > > finite definitions.
> > 
> > No, I do not know what else is in that diagram.
> 
> "..." say: and so on.
> 
> > Can you give a formula D(x,y) where D(x,y) is either 0 or 1,
> > and indicates which digit appears as the yth digit of the xth line?
> 
> After the decimal point: D(x, y) = 1 for y =< x, otherwise 0.
> > 
> > >> then you can use that to give a single algorithmic description
> > >> of the diagonal.
> > >
> > > and prove it is a member of the countable set of all finite definitions.
> > 
> > Come now, no proof needed to say that the set of definitions is countable.
> The set of finite strings is countable. Definitions are a subset.
> > 
> > Try proving that the antidiagonal differs from each entry in the
> > original diagram, in the same way that sqrt(2) =/= n/m, regardless of
> > what naturals n,m are.
> 
> For my simple example the case is obvious. The antidagonal of
> 
> 0.000...
> 0.1000...
> 0.11000...
> 0.111000...
> ...
> 
> can be taken as 0.111...
> 
> It is only then infinite, when the list has infinitely many lines and infinitely many columns. But then the number 0.111... must be in the list already, since otherwise infinitely many columns must contain entries ending with infinitely many zeros and the diagonal will not cover all columns.
> 
> Regards, WM

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#418630

FromAlan Smaill <smaill@SPAMinf.ed.ac.uk>
Date2018-07-20 16:04 +0100
Message-ID<fwefu0elzik.fsf@foxtrot.inf.ed.ac.uk>
In reply to#418621
WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> writes:

> Am Freitag, 20. Juli 2018 13:10:07 UTC+2 schrieb Alan Smaill:
>> WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> writes:
>
>
>> >> > Further, yes I accept that the algorithm can supply every digit. But
>> >> > every digit belongs to a rational approximation. The complete digit
>> >> > sequence is not possible to give. Therefore I said that the algorithm
>> >> > or formule is the number.
>> >> 
>> >> You think I am saying something different??
>> >
>> > No, I have seen that you agree. But Cantor's list needs numbers
>> > defined by digits, for instance the diagonal. And of course every
>> > irrational you wish to use there an an entry.
>> 
>> On the basis of a finite definition only.
>
> Is the following example possible?: Row n contains 1/sqrt(n).

If you spell that out algorithically, yes.

>> >
>> > You mean that every entry is defined by a formula like in the list
>> >
>> > 0.1
>> > 0.11
>> > 0.111
>> > ...
>> > ?
>> > Then the list and also its diagonal belong to the countable set of
>> > finite definitions.
>> 
>> No, I do not know what else is in that diagram.
>
> "..." say: and so on.

Still ambiguous.

>> Can you give a formula D(x,y) where D(x,y) is either 0 or 1,
>> and indicates which digit appears as the yth digit of the xth line?
>
> After the decimal point: D(x, y) = 1 for y =< x, otherwise 0.

Right.

>> >> then you can use that to give a single algorithmic description
>> >> of the diagonal.
>> >
>> > and prove it is a member of the countable set of all finite definitions.
>> 
>> Come now, no proof needed to say that the set of definitions is countable.
> The set of finite strings is countable. Definitions are a subset.

I just said, "no proof needed".
Can you read??

>> Try proving that the antidiagonal differs from each entry in the
>> original diagram, in the same way that sqrt(2) =/= n/m, regardless of
>> what naturals n,m are.
>
> For my simple example the case is obvious. The antidagonal of
>
> 0.000...
> 0.1000...
> 0.11000...
> 0.111000...
> ...
>
> can be taken as 0.111...

OK.

> It is only then infinite,

It is potentially infinite, in exactly the same sense
that the original diagram is potentially infinite.

You have a finite definition, which you can work out from D above
in the general case.  Here AD(n) = 1,  and that corresponds to a potentially
infinite list with each digit 1.

> when the list has infinitely many lines and
> infinitely many columns. But then the number 0.111... must be in the
> list already, since otherwise infinitely many columns must contain
> entries ending with infinitely many zeros and the diagonal will not
> cover all columns.

First, the diagonal does not cover all columns, only each column
(in your terms).

Your subsequent comments make no sense. 
Your "otherwise" includes the initial situation, and the
diagonal does intersect each column.  0.111... is the antidiagonal.
and it likewise intersect each column (not all).

And that is enough to show that 0.111... is not in the list already --
it threatens to continue in infinity but not really requires it.

>
> Regards, WM

-- 
Alan Smaill

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#418655

FromWM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de>
Date2018-07-20 11:53 -0700
Message-ID<dd80b87f-21c8-41e6-9748-6c4f49b41ec5@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#418630
Am Freitag, 20. Juli 2018 17:05:06 UTC+2 schrieb Alan Smaill:
> WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> writes:
> 

> > Is the following example possible?: Row n contains 1/sqrt(n).
> 
> If you spell that out algorithically, yes.
> 
> >> >
> >> > You mean that every entry is defined by a formula like in the list
> >> >
> >> > 0.1
> >> > 0.11
> >> > 0.111
> >> > ...
> >> > ?

> >> Can you give a formula D(x,y) where D(x,y) is either 0 or 1,
> >> and indicates which digit appears as the yth digit of the xth line?
> >
> > After the decimal point: D(x, y) = 1 for y =< x, otherwise 0.
> 

> >> Come now, no proof needed to say that the set of definitions is countable.
> > The set of finite strings is countable. Definitions are a subset.
> 
> I just said, "no proof needed".
> Can you read??

Sorry, I overlooked that.
> 
> >> Try proving that the antidiagonal differs from each entry in the
> >> original diagram, in the same way that sqrt(2) =/= n/m, regardless of
> >> what naturals n,m are.
> >
> > For my simple example the case is obvious. The antidagonal of
> >
> > 0.000...
> > 0.1000...
> > 0.11000...
> > 0.111000...
> > ...
> >
> > can be taken as 0.111...
> 
> OK.
> 
> > It is only then infinite,
> 
> It is potentially infinite, in exactly the same sense
> that the original diagram is potentially infinite.

Here I used actual infinity.
> 
> You have a finite definition, which you can work out from D above
> in the general case.  Here AD(n) = 1,  and that corresponds to a potentially
> infinite list with each digit 1.
> 
> > when the list has infinitely many lines and
> > infinitely many columns. But then the number 0.111... must be in the
> > list already, since otherwise infinitely many columns must contain
> > entries ending with infinitely many zeros and the diagonal will not
> > cover all columns.
> 
> First, the diagonal does not cover all columns, only each column
> (in your terms).

Sorry, I am arguing about Cantor's argument.
> 
> Your subsequent comments make no sense.

They concern Cantor's proof.
 
> Your "otherwise" includes the initial situation, and the
> diagonal does intersect each column.  0.111... is the antidiagonal.
> and it likewise intersect each column (not all).
> 
> And that is enough to show that 0.111... is not in the list already --

In potential infinity 0.111... is in the list already. It is always in the next line.

Regards, WM

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#418766

FromAlan Smaill <smaill@SPAMinf.ed.ac.uk>
Date2018-07-21 21:21 +0100
Message-ID<fwetvosz6f5.fsf@foxtrot.inf.ed.ac.uk>
In reply to#418655
WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> writes:

> Am Freitag, 20. Juli 2018 17:05:06 UTC+2 schrieb Alan Smaill:
>> WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> writes:
>> 
>
>> > Is the following example possible?: Row n contains 1/sqrt(n).
>> 
>> If you spell that out algorithically, yes.
>> 
>> >> >
>> >> > You mean that every entry is defined by a formula like in the list
>> >> >
>> >> > 0.1
>> >> > 0.11
>> >> > 0.111
>> >> > ...
>> >> > ?
>
>> >> Can you give a formula D(x,y) where D(x,y) is either 0 or 1, and
>> >> indicates which digit appears as the yth digit of the xth line?
>> >
>> > After the decimal point: D(x, y) = 1 for y =< x, otherwise 0.
[..]
>> >> Try proving that the antidiagonal differs from each entry in the
>> >> original diagram, in the same way that sqrt(2) =/= n/m, regardless
>> >> of what naturals n,m are.
>> >
>> > For my simple example the case is obvious. The antidagonal of
>> >
>> > 0.000...
>> > 0.1000...
>> > 0.11000...
>> > 0.111000...
>> > ...
>> >
>> > can be taken as 0.111...
>> 
>> OK.
>> 
>> > It is only then infinite,
>> 
>> It is potentially infinite, in exactly the same sense
>> that the original diagram is potentially infinite.
>
> Here I used actual infinity.

And I deliberately want to keep to your own potentially infinite
account.   Are you saying there can be no account
in terms of the potentially infinite?

If so, I disagree.

Forget Cantor.

Do you agree with the following:

>> You have a finite definition, which you can work out from D above
>> in the general case.  Here AD(n) = 1,  and that corresponds to a potentially
>> infinite list with each digit 1.


-- 
Alan Smaill

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#418844

FromWM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de>
Date2018-07-22 05:59 -0700
Message-ID<72672225-a84c-4f58-a414-4f6962ee2506@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#418766
Am Samstag, 21. Juli 2018 22:25:05 UTC+2 schrieb Alan Smaill:
> WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> writes:


> > Here I used actual infinity.
> 
> And I deliberately want to keep to your own potentially infinite
> account.  

Sorry, that is not my invention. It used to be the general basis of mathematics.

> Are you saying there can be no account
> in terms of the potentially infinite?

No. But it is hard to forget Cantor, in particular because in potential infinity no paradox or exciting results occur.

> Forget Cantor.

My aim is to show him wrong.
> 
> Do you agree with the following:
> 
> >> You have a finite definition, which you can work out from D above
> >> in the general case.  Here AD(n) = 1,  and that corresponds to a potentially
> >> infinite list with each digit 1.

The antidiagonal is 0.111...  It is always in the next line. Using potential infinity Cantor's invincible argument is defeated.

Regards, WM

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#418849

FromAlan Smaill <smaill@SPAMinf.ed.ac.uk>
Date2018-07-22 15:39 +0100
Message-ID<fwefu0bz659.fsf@foxtrot.inf.ed.ac.uk>
In reply to#418844
WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> writes:

> Am Samstag, 21. Juli 2018 22:25:05 UTC+2 schrieb Alan Smaill:
>> WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> writes:
>
>> > Here I used actual infinity.
>> 
>> And I deliberately want to keep to your own potentially infinite
>> account.  
>
> Sorry, that is not my invention. It used to be the general basis of
> mathematics.

Obviously you did not invent it.  But you advocate its use as a way out
of the decadence of modern mathematics, you have been proposing
definitions of "potentially infinite", etc etc.  I refer to your own
understanding of the potentially infinite.

>> Are you saying there can be no account
>> in terms of the potentially infinite?
>
> No. But it is hard to forget Cantor, in particular because in
> potential infinity no paradox or exciting results occur.

I am suggesting that a version of the diagonal argument can be carrieed
through while staying inside the potentially infinite.  You seem decided
to change the topic at every opportunity.

>> Do you agree with the following:
>> 
>> >> You have a finite definition, which you can work out from D above
>> >> in the general case.  Here AD(n) = 1, and that corresponds to a
>> >> potentially infinite list with each digit 1.
>
> The antidiagonal is 0.111...  It is always in the next line. Using
> potential infinity Cantor's invincible argument is defeated.

OK, so the antidiagonal is 0.111... (so the constant function AD(n) = 1
gives the potentially infinite listing).

But where on earth do you get "it is always in the next line .." from?

Here we had agreed to assume an initial configuration where
a finite definition D(n,m) is strong enough to pin down uniquely
for each n,m the mth digit on the nth entry.

The starting point in this particular example,
according to you (looking at digits after
the decimal point):

D(n,m) = 1 if m < n, 0 otherwise 

For given n, the nth entry has digit 0 from index n onwards, so the
entry is not 0.111... , so it is not in the initial diagram anywhere.

This is immediate from the definition of D in this case.


>
> Regards, WM
>
>

-- 
Alan Smaill

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#418940

FromWM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de>
Date2018-07-23 06:21 -0700
Message-ID<6cd29f90-9130-4b73-b161-b3b1e19500f6@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#418849
Am Sonntag, 22. Juli 2018 16:40:06 UTC+2 schrieb Alan Smaill:
> WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> writes:


> I am suggesting that a version of the diagonal argument can be carrieed
> through while staying inside the potentially infinite.

I do not see a way. Consider the list

0.0
0.1
0.11
0.111
...

The antidiagonal is always in the next line. And more does not exist.

> But where on earth do you get "it is always in the next line .." from?

The antidiagonal of the list

0.0
0.1
0.11
0.111

is 0.1111 (when replacing 0 --> 1).

This is the same number as would follow in the next line.

> 
> Here we had agreed to assume an initial configuration where
> a finite definition D(n,m) is strong enough to pin down uniquely
> for each n,m the mth digit on the nth entry.

Of course, for each and every, but not for all. The potetially infinite list is longer than the finite list above, but it is always finite. And always a next line will exist.
> 
> The starting point in this particular example,
> according to you (looking at digits after
> the decimal point):
> 
> D(n,m) = 1 if m < n, 0 otherwise 
> 
> For given n, the nth entry has digit 0 from index n onwards, so the
> entry is not 0.111... , so it is not in the initial diagram anywhere.

The entry 0.111000... is the same as the entry 0.111.

Regards, WM

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#418947

FromAlan Smaill <smaill@SPAMinf.ed.ac.uk>
Date2018-07-23 15:10 +0100
Message-ID<fwefu0axctp.fsf@foxtrot.inf.ed.ac.uk>
In reply to#418940
WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> writes:

> Am Sonntag, 22. Juli 2018 16:40:06 UTC+2 schrieb Alan Smaill:
>> WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> writes:
>
>
>> I am suggesting that a version of the diagonal argument can be carrieed
>> through while staying inside the potentially infinite.
>
> I do not see a way. Consider the list
>
> 0.0
> 0.1
> 0.11
> 0.111
> ...
>
> The antidiagonal is always in the next line. And more does not exist.

The antidiagonal of the whole diagram is 0.111... as you well know.
It is not in the list.

>> But where on earth do you get "it is always in the next line .." from?
>
> The antidiagonal of the list
>
> 0.0
> 0.1
> 0.11
> 0.111
>
> is 0.1111 (when replacing 0 --> 1).
>
> This is the same number as would follow in the next line.

Different list -- irrelevant.

>> Here we had agreed to assume an initial configuration where
>> a finite definition D(n,m) is strong enough to pin down uniquely
>> for each n,m the mth digit on the nth entry.
>
> Of course, for each and every, but not for all. The potetially
> infinite list is longer than the finite list above, but it is always
> finite. And always a next line will exist.

But we can reason from the definition and prove properties of the
potentially infinite collection.  

>> The starting point in this particular example,
>> according to you (looking at digits after
>> the decimal point):
>> 
>> D(n,m) = 1 if m < n, 0 otherwise 
>> 
>> For given n, the nth entry has digit 0 from index n onwards, so the
>> entry is not 0.111... , so it is not in the initial diagram anywhere.
>
> The entry 0.111000... is the same as the entry 0.111.

So what???

Can you work out from

  D(n,m) = 1 if m < n, 0 otherwise

that for each (not all, each) n there is some m such that D(n,m) = 0?

What does that tell you about 0.111... ?


> Regards, WM

-- 
Alan Smaill

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#418955

FromWM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de>
Date2018-07-23 10:19 -0700
Message-ID<aa15a88a-e12c-4a3b-b43a-2632991fdf83@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#418947
Am Montag, 23. Juli 2018 16:15:06 UTC+2 schrieb Alan Smaill:
> WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> writes:
> 
> > Am Sonntag, 22. Juli 2018 16:40:06 UTC+2 schrieb Alan Smaill:
> >> WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@hs-augsburg.de> writes:
> >
> >
> >> I am suggesting that a version of the diagonal argument can be carrieed
> >> through while staying inside the potentially infinite.
> >
> > I do not see a way. Consider the list
> >
> > 0.0
> > 0.1
> > 0.11
> > 0.111
> > ...
> >
> > The antidiagonal is always in the next line. And more does not exist.
> 
> The antidiagonal of the whole diagram is 0.111... as you well know.
> It is not in the list.

There is no whole diagram. Do you want to switch to actual infinity?
> 
> >> But where on earth do you get "it is always in the next line .." from?
> >
> > The antidiagonal of the list
> >
> > 0.0
> > 0.1
> > 0.11
> > 0.111
> >
> > is 0.1111 (when replacing 0 --> 1).
> >
> > This is the same number as would follow in the next line.
> 
> Different list -- irrelevant.

Relevant since every potentially infinite list is finite, growing though, but never fnished.
> 
> >> Here we had agreed to assume an initial configuration where
> >> a finite definition D(n,m) is strong enough to pin down uniquely
> >> for each n,m the mth digit on the nth entry.
> >
> > Of course, for each and every, but not for all. The potetially
> > infinite list is longer than the finite list above, but it is always
> > finite. And always a next line will exist.
> 
> But we can reason from the definition and prove properties of the
> potentially infinite collection. 

The most important one: It is growing but never complete. The antidiagonal of every existing list is in the next line, just coming into being. 
> 
REgards, WM

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