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| Started by | "Robert Clark" <rgregoryclark@gmSPAMBLOACKail.com> |
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| First post | 2016-11-25 09:44 -0500 |
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Question about a physics quote on visual vs. analytical reasoning. "Robert Clark" <rgregoryclark@gmSPAMBLOACKail.com> - 2016-11-25 09:44 -0500
Re: Question about a physics quote on visual vs. analytical reasoning. "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-11-25 07:10 -0800
Re: Question about a physics quote on visual vs. analytical reasoning. bursejan@gmail.com - 2016-11-25 07:13 -0800
Re: Question about a physics quote on visual vs. analytical reasoning. bert <bert.hutchings@btinternet.com> - 2016-11-25 08:49 -0800
Re: Question about a physics quote on visual vs. analytical reasoning. Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2016-11-25 14:05 -0500
Re: Question about a physics quote on visual vs. analytical reasoning. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-11-25 11:34 -0800
Re: Question about a physics quote on visual vs. analytical reasoning. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-11-26 11:37 -0800
| From | "Robert Clark" <rgregoryclark@gmSPAMBLOACKail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-11-25 09:44 -0500 |
| Subject | Question about a physics quote on visual vs. analytical reasoning. |
| Message-ID | <o19ijv$lvl$1@dont-email.me> |
I'm writing an article about the benefits of reasoning visually, using imagery. I wanted to cite a quote by a well known physicist about how some physicists reason visually, i.e., in pictures and others reason analytically, i.e., via equations. But I can't quite remember who said it or the exact quote. I have a vague recollection that Dirac was either the person who made the quote or it was said about him, but I'm not sure about that either. Anyone remember the quote? Bob Clark ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Finally, nanotechnology can now fulfill its potential to revolutionize 21st-century technology, from the space elevator, to private, orbital launchers, to 'flying cars'. This crowdfunding campaign is to prove it: Nanotech: from air to space. https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/nanotech-from-air-to-space/x/13319568/ ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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| From | "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> |
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| Date | 2016-11-25 07:10 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <o19k86$sar$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #353358 |
"Robert Clark" <rgregoryclark@gmSPAMBLOACKail.com> wrote: > I'm writing an article about the benefits of reasoning visually, using > imagery. I wanted to cite a quote by a well known physicist about how some > physicists reason visually, i.e., in pictures and others reason > analytically, i.e., via equations. > > But I can't quite remember who said it or the exact quote. I have a vague > recollection that Dirac was either the person who made the quote or it was > said about him, but I'm not sure about that either. > > Anyone remember the quote? > > > Bob Clark > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Finally, nanotechnology can now fulfill its potential to revolutionize > 21st-century technology, from the space elevator, to private, orbital > launchers, to 'flying cars'. > This crowdfunding campaign is to prove it: > > Nanotech: from air to space. > https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/nanotech-from-air-to-space/x/13319568/ > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > hanson wrote: "the benefits of reasoning using imagery" is weel documented google/bing 3.3 million hits --[Lies Fraud Academia]-- as in > <http://www.onlinecolleges.net/2011/12/05/10-academic-frauds-fooled> > or as exampled in the book by Michael Brooks in > <http://tinyurl.com/Michael-Brooks-Free-Radicals> : > wherein Brooks wrote: > "1/3 (33+%) of all scientists are on drugs and loaded while on the job and that 2/3rds (66+%) of all scientists volunteered & admitted that they cheat & commit fraud in/for & during their investigations." > Great scientist-role models, like Francis Crick, Nobel laureate for the DNA, admitted to have been high on LSD when he conjured up (visualized) the Double Helix... > Same goes for other well known lodos & druggies such as LSD-guru Timothy Leary and the classic one, the Cocaine Freak Sigmund Freud... All were fucked up in their heads, incl. most of today's "Climate Scientists" with their Anthropic Globally Warmed fanaticism, and earlier Einstein visualizing his Gedanken experiments.
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| From | bursejan@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2016-11-25 07:13 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <19a7e004-c63b-4df2-ae37-6ae9a7fa318c@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #353371 |
The other half is high on cheese cake an represented by JG.
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| From | bert <bert.hutchings@btinternet.com> |
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| Date | 2016-11-25 08:49 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <8727f15e-4f16-49eb-b29b-552444160545@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #353358 |
On Friday, 25 November 2016 14:43:28 UTC, Robert Clark wrote: > I'm writing an article about the benefits of reasoning visually, using > imagery. I wanted to cite a quote by a well known physicist about how some > physicists reason visually, i.e., in pictures and others reason > analytically, i.e., via equations. > > But I can't quite remember who said it or the exact quote. It's reminiscent of a well-known anecdote about John von Neumann. He was asked, if two trains start at (some given distance) apart and approach each other at (some given speed), and an insect flies (at some given greater speed) back and forth between them until it is crushed in the head-on collision, how far does it fly? The purpose was to distinguish between a fairly slow analytical solution, by summing the infinite series, and a quicker visual solution by ignoring the reversals and dividing the insect's speed by the time to the collision. Although von Neumann was known to be analytical, he answered almost immediately; and when queried as to why he had taken the visual approach, he replied in surprise, "No, I did sum the infinite series!" --
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| From | Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> |
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| Date | 2016-11-25 14:05 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <242h3ct3ainm1q0p8ndoir5dgomie51tti@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #353358 |
On Fri, 25 Nov 2016 09:44:14 -0500, Robert Clark wrote: >I'm writing an article about the benefits of reasoning visually, using >imagery. I wanted to cite a quote by a well known physicist about how some >physicists reason visually, i.e., in pictures and others reason >analytically, i.e., via equations. > >But I can't quite remember who said it or the exact quote. I have a vague >recollection that Dirac was either the person who made the quote or it was >said about him, but I'm not sure about that either. > > Anyone remember the quote? > > > Bob Clark Not necessarily limited to visual imagery, but a similar thought: http://www.cleanlanguage.co.uk/Quotes.html Robert Stetson Shaw, quoted in James Gleick, Chaos: Making a New Science, Viking, New York, 1987. p. 262: " 'You don't see something until you have the right metaphor to let you perceive it' [Robert Stetson] Shaw said, echoing Thomas S Kuhn."
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2016-11-25 11:34 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <58389240.31CB@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #353358 |
Robert Clark wrote: > > I'm writing an article about the benefits of reasoning visually, using > imagery. I wanted to cite a quote by a well known physicist about how some > physicists reason visually, i.e., in pictures and others reason > analytically, i.e., via equations. > > But I can't quite remember who said it or the exact quote. I have a vague > recollection that Dirac was either the person who made the quote or it was > said about him, but I'm not sure about that either. > > Anyone remember the quote? > > Bob Clark Stephen Hawking. He cannot do anything else but reasoning visually...
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2016-11-26 11:37 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <5839E490.6E16@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #353408 |
The Starmaker wrote: > > Robert Clark wrote: > > > > I'm writing an article about the benefits of reasoning visually, using > > imagery. I wanted to cite a quote by a well known physicist about how some > > physicists reason visually, i.e., in pictures and others reason > > analytically, i.e., via equations. > > > > But I can't quite remember who said it or the exact quote. I have a vague > > recollection that Dirac was either the person who made the quote or it was > > said about him, but I'm not sure about that either. > > > > Anyone remember the quote? > > > > Bob Clark > > Stephen Hawking. > > He cannot do anything else but reasoning visually... i mean, before there was math or physics...it was all...visual.
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