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Creating a "European CMOS 2.0 Army"

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First post2026-07-13 07:29 +0200
Last post2026-07-22 07:38 -0700
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  Creating a "European CMOS 2.0 Army" Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-13 07:29 +0200
    Micro penis walking around with a rucksack (Re: Creating a "European CMOS 2.0 Army") Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-13 07:30 +0200
    Economy of Maturation: Mobile HBM Coming! (Was: Creating a "European CMOS 2.0 Army") Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-22 13:28 +0200
      3D RAM the new normal for SSDs [Mac Neo Case Study] (Was: Economy of Maturation: Mobile HBM Coming!) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-22 14:01 +0200
      Re: Economy of Maturation: Mobile HBM Coming! (Was: Creating a "European CMOS 2.0 Army") Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-07-22 07:06 -0700
        Rossy Boy is confused : HBM != RDMA [UK Brexit Paranoids] (Was: Economy of Maturation: Mobile HBM Coming!) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-22 16:17 +0200
          Hardware engineering as a cyber crime conspiration (Re: Rossy Boy is confused : HBM != RDMA [UK Brexit Paranoids]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-22 16:24 +0200
            Don't cruise gay bars, might end up like Alan Turing (Re: Hardware engineering as a cyber crime conspiration) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-22 16:29 +0200
              Re: Don't cruise gay bars, might end up like Alan Turing (Re: Hardware engineering as a cyber crime conspiration) Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-07-22 07:42 -0700
              Re: Don't cruise gay bars, might end up like Alan Turing (Re: Hardware engineering as a cyber crime conspiration) Eliesky Babkov <vleyve@es.ru> - 2026-07-23 16:10 +0000
          Re: Rossy Boy is confused : HBM != RDMA [UK Brexit Paranoids] (Was: Economy of Maturation: Mobile HBM Coming!) Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-07-22 07:38 -0700

#646571 — Creating a "European CMOS 2.0 Army"

FromMild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm>
Date2026-07-13 07:29 +0200
SubjectCreating a "European CMOS 2.0 Army"
Message-ID<1131t35$tqe$3@solani.org>
Hi,

For marketing purposes people
typically look at the race towards
2nm, and we find:

A month ago, Apple lost its exclusivity
on 3 nm smartphone processors with
MediaTek’s Dimensity 9400 chip, integrated
in the Vivo X200 Pro smartphone. Qualcomm
is also in the race with its recently
unveiled Snapdragon 8 Elite and set to
power the Xiaomi 15 Pro in 2025. However,
Apple should regain its position as innovation
leader in 2026 with the release of the
iPhone 18, which should feature the A20
chip built on TSMC’s 2 nm process."

But there is a vertical vias revolution
going on as well, some SOCs typically
being at 18 layers now:

Zooming Into a CPU (It's Incredible)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bez-2cvYja0

imec has coined the term CMOS 2.0:

LEUVEN (Belgium), MARCH 12th, 2026 — Imec,
a world-leading research and innovation hub
in advanced semiconductor technologies, has
launched a first-of-its-kind consortium with
26 European university groups that will jointly
work on the technology roadmap beyond
CMOS scaling (CMOS 2.0).
https://www.imec-int.com/en/press/imec-launches-university-consortium-around-next-generation-chips

So we might see more mobile grade GPUs.

Bye

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#646572 — Micro penis walking around with a rucksack (Re: Creating a "European CMOS 2.0 Army")

FromMild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm>
Date2026-07-13 07:30 +0200
SubjectMicro penis walking around with a rucksack (Re: Creating a "European CMOS 2.0 Army")
Message-ID<1131t4s$tqe$4@solani.org>
In reply to#646571
Hi,

So we might see more mobile grade GPUs,
on a finger nail, without any cooling fans
in the future? Yes my Redmi smart phone doesn't

have any cooling fans, I do not intend to put
a RTX 5090 in a rucksack and carry a 600 W battery
pack (*), to have some AI on my phone.

Have Fun!

Bye

(*) The Bluetti Premium 30 V2 is 4.3 Kg heavy:
https://www.galaxus.ch/de/s4/product/bluetti-premium-30-v2-320-wh-430-kg-power-station-65489839

Mirco penis was loosing his marbles:
 > you stinking sack of rocks, you can't read your
 > own redundant links. Watch the prices for the
 > Ryzen AI laptops. Fucking idiot. Not worth the
 > price for what they give in AI. Those are embedded
 > cpu/gpu cretin, you don't need to read more.

Mild Shock schrieb:
> Hi,
> 
> For marketing purposes people
> typically look at the race towards
> 2nm, and we find:
> 
> A month ago, Apple lost its exclusivity
> on 3 nm smartphone processors with
> MediaTek’s Dimensity 9400 chip, integrated
> in the Vivo X200 Pro smartphone. Qualcomm
> is also in the race with its recently
> unveiled Snapdragon 8 Elite and set to
> power the Xiaomi 15 Pro in 2025. However,
> Apple should regain its position as innovation
> leader in 2026 with the release of the
> iPhone 18, which should feature the A20
> chip built on TSMC’s 2 nm process."
> 
> But there is a vertical vias revolution
> going on as well, some SOCs typically
> being at 18 layers now:
> 
> Zooming Into a CPU (It's Incredible)
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bez-2cvYja0
> 
> imec has coined the term CMOS 2.0:
> 
> LEUVEN (Belgium), MARCH 12th, 2026 — Imec,
> a world-leading research and innovation hub
> in advanced semiconductor technologies, has
> launched a first-of-its-kind consortium with
> 26 European university groups that will jointly
> work on the technology roadmap beyond
> CMOS scaling (CMOS 2.0).
> https://www.imec-int.com/en/press/imec-launches-university-consortium-around-next-generation-chips 
> 
> 
> So we might see more mobile grade GPUs.
> 
> Bye

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#646907 — Economy of Maturation: Mobile HBM Coming! (Was: Creating a "European CMOS 2.0 Army")

FromMild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm>
Date2026-07-22 13:28 +0200
SubjectEconomy of Maturation: Mobile HBM Coming! (Was: Creating a "European CMOS 2.0 Army")
Message-ID<113q9gn$7t3k$1@solani.org>
In reply to#646571
Hi,

"Mobile HBM" refers to a new, under-development
form of High Bandwidth Memory (HBM) optimized
specifically for energy-efficient mobile devices
like smartphones. Manufacturers such as Samsung
and SK Hynix are developing this technology to
make the massive data bandwidth required for complex,
on-device AI applications available within the strict
power and space constraints of mobile phones.

Unlike classic HBM solutions, which rely on
extra-wide silicon interposers for massive data
throughput in data centers and graphics cards,
Mobile HBM utilizes stacked LPDDR architectures.
The goal is to drastically reduce power consumption
and heat generation so that large AI models can
run directly on the device (on-device) without
placing too heavy a load on the battery. The
technology is expected to hit the market starting
in 2026/2027, with Apple among those showing great
interest in integrating it into future iPhone generations."

https://www.remio.ai/post/mobile-hbm-the-ai-memory-tech-that-could-reshape-the-iphone

Just think of a Mac Neo, which has now 8 GB,
but the memory going 3D in 12 layers, thats a
massive of 96 GB very fast memory.

Economy of scale comes later, when the same CPU/
GPU/RAM combo is used for phones, tablets, desktop,
or with other humidity and temperature parameters

for cars, robots, drones, etc...

Bye

Mild Shock schrieb:
> Hi,
> 
> For marketing purposes people
> typically look at the race towards
> 2nm, and we find:
> 
> A month ago, Apple lost its exclusivity
> on 3 nm smartphone processors with
> MediaTek’s Dimensity 9400 chip, integrated
> in the Vivo X200 Pro smartphone. Qualcomm
> is also in the race with its recently
> unveiled Snapdragon 8 Elite and set to
> power the Xiaomi 15 Pro in 2025. However,
> Apple should regain its position as innovation
> leader in 2026 with the release of the
> iPhone 18, which should feature the A20
> chip built on TSMC’s 2 nm process."
> 
> But there is a vertical vias revolution
> going on as well, some SOCs typically
> being at 18 layers now:
> 
> Zooming Into a CPU (It's Incredible)
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bez-2cvYja0
> 
> imec has coined the term CMOS 2.0:
> 
> LEUVEN (Belgium), MARCH 12th, 2026 — Imec,
> a world-leading research and innovation hub
> in advanced semiconductor technologies, has
> launched a first-of-its-kind consortium with
> 26 European university groups that will jointly
> work on the technology roadmap beyond
> CMOS scaling (CMOS 2.0).
> https://www.imec-int.com/en/press/imec-launches-university-consortium-around-next-generation-chips 
> 
> 
> So we might see more mobile grade GPUs.
> 
> Bye

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#646908 — 3D RAM the new normal for SSDs [Mac Neo Case Study] (Was: Economy of Maturation: Mobile HBM Coming!)

FromMild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm>
Date2026-07-22 14:01 +0200
Subject3D RAM the new normal for SSDs [Mac Neo Case Study] (Was: Economy of Maturation: Mobile HBM Coming!)
Message-ID<113qbem$7ahs$1@solani.org>
In reply to#646907
Hi,

3D RAM is already the new normal for SSDs.
Nearly all mainstream modern SSDs use 3D NAND
(or V-NAND), where billions of memory cells
are stacked vertically in skyscrapers
rather than being laid out flat.

The Story Behind V-NAND Memory Solution
https://news.samsung.com/us/story-behind-samsungs-pioneering-v-nand-memory-solution

Unlike a traditional desktop or some
Windows laptops where you can slide an
NVMe M.2 drive into a slot, the MacBook
Neo has its 3D NAND chips permanently
soldered directly onto the laptop's motherboard.
There is no card or physical drive to pull out.

Instead of using a third-party SSD controller
chip (like Phison or Silicon Motion), the
storage logic is integrated directly into
the Apple A18 Pro processor. The processor
communicates with the soldered NAND storage
via a custom internal NVMe protocol over
a PCIe connection.

amsung's roadmap is truly ambitious, with
plans to launch the 11th generation of
NAND in 2027 with an estimated 50%
improvement in I/O rates, followed by
1,000-layer NAND chips by 2030. Its
competitor, SK hynix, is also working on
400-layer NAND aiming to have the technology
ready for mass production by the end of 2025,
as we previously mentioned in August.

https://www.techpowerup.com/328244/samsung-plans-400-layer-v-nand-for-2026-and-dram-technology-advancements-by-2027

Bye

Mild Shock schrieb:
> Hi,
> 
> "Mobile HBM" refers to a new, under-development
> form of High Bandwidth Memory (HBM) optimized
> specifically for energy-efficient mobile devices
> like smartphones. Manufacturers such as Samsung
> and SK Hynix are developing this technology to
> make the massive data bandwidth required for complex,
> on-device AI applications available within the strict
> power and space constraints of mobile phones.
> 
> Unlike classic HBM solutions, which rely on
> extra-wide silicon interposers for massive data
> throughput in data centers and graphics cards,
> Mobile HBM utilizes stacked LPDDR architectures.
> The goal is to drastically reduce power consumption
> and heat generation so that large AI models can
> run directly on the device (on-device) without
> placing too heavy a load on the battery. The
> technology is expected to hit the market starting
> in 2026/2027, with Apple among those showing great
> interest in integrating it into future iPhone generations."
> 
> https://www.remio.ai/post/mobile-hbm-the-ai-memory-tech-that-could-reshape-the-iphone 
> 
> 
> Just think of a Mac Neo, which has now 8 GB,
> but the memory going 3D in 12 layers, thats a
> massive of 96 GB very fast memory.
> 
> Economy of scale comes later, when the same CPU/
> GPU/RAM combo is used for phones, tablets, desktop,
> or with other humidity and temperature parameters
> 
> for cars, robots, drones, etc...
> 
> Bye
> 
> Mild Shock schrieb:
>> Hi,
>>
>> For marketing purposes people
>> typically look at the race towards
>> 2nm, and we find:
>>
>> A month ago, Apple lost its exclusivity
>> on 3 nm smartphone processors with
>> MediaTek’s Dimensity 9400 chip, integrated
>> in the Vivo X200 Pro smartphone. Qualcomm
>> is also in the race with its recently
>> unveiled Snapdragon 8 Elite and set to
>> power the Xiaomi 15 Pro in 2025. However,
>> Apple should regain its position as innovation
>> leader in 2026 with the release of the
>> iPhone 18, which should feature the A20
>> chip built on TSMC’s 2 nm process."
>>
>> But there is a vertical vias revolution
>> going on as well, some SOCs typically
>> being at 18 layers now:
>>
>> Zooming Into a CPU (It's Incredible)
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bez-2cvYja0
>>
>> imec has coined the term CMOS 2.0:
>>
>> LEUVEN (Belgium), MARCH 12th, 2026 — Imec,
>> a world-leading research and innovation hub
>> in advanced semiconductor technologies, has
>> launched a first-of-its-kind consortium with
>> 26 European university groups that will jointly
>> work on the technology roadmap beyond
>> CMOS scaling (CMOS 2.0).
>> https://www.imec-int.com/en/press/imec-launches-university-consortium-around-next-generation-chips 
>>
>>
>> So we might see more mobile grade GPUs.
>>
>> Bye
> 

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#646919 — Re: Economy of Maturation: Mobile HBM Coming! (Was: Creating a "European CMOS 2.0 Army")

FromRoss Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com>
Date2026-07-22 07:06 -0700
SubjectRe: Economy of Maturation: Mobile HBM Coming! (Was: Creating a "European CMOS 2.0 Army")
Message-ID<_IycnfI4YdHWU_33nZ2dnZfqnPudnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#646907
On 07/22/2026 04:28 AM, Mild Shock wrote:
> Hi,
>
> "Mobile HBM" refers to a new, under-development
> form of High Bandwidth Memory (HBM) optimized
> specifically for energy-efficient mobile devices
> like smartphones. Manufacturers such as Samsung
> and SK Hynix are developing this technology to
> make the massive data bandwidth required for complex,
> on-device AI applications available within the strict
> power and space constraints of mobile phones.
>
> Unlike classic HBM solutions, which rely on
> extra-wide silicon interposers for massive data
> throughput in data centers and graphics cards,
> Mobile HBM utilizes stacked LPDDR architectures.
> The goal is to drastically reduce power consumption
> and heat generation so that large AI models can
> run directly on the device (on-device) without
> placing too heavy a load on the battery. The
> technology is expected to hit the market starting
> in 2026/2027, with Apple among those showing great
> interest in integrating it into future iPhone generations."
>
> https://www.remio.ai/post/mobile-hbm-the-ai-memory-tech-that-could-reshape-the-iphone
>
>
> Just think of a Mac Neo, which has now 8 GB,
> but the memory going 3D in 12 layers, thats a
> massive of 96 GB very fast memory.
>
> Economy of scale comes later, when the same CPU/
> GPU/RAM combo is used for phones, tablets, desktop,
> or with other humidity and temperature parameters
>
> for cars, robots, drones, etc...
>
> Bye
>
> Mild Shock schrieb:
>> Hi,
>>
>> For marketing purposes people
>> typically look at the race towards
>> 2nm, and we find:
>>
>> A month ago, Apple lost its exclusivity
>> on 3 nm smartphone processors with
>> MediaTek’s Dimensity 9400 chip, integrated
>> in the Vivo X200 Pro smartphone. Qualcomm
>> is also in the race with its recently
>> unveiled Snapdragon 8 Elite and set to
>> power the Xiaomi 15 Pro in 2025. However,
>> Apple should regain its position as innovation
>> leader in 2026 with the release of the
>> iPhone 18, which should feature the A20
>> chip built on TSMC’s 2 nm process."
>>
>> But there is a vertical vias revolution
>> going on as well, some SOCs typically
>> being at 18 layers now:
>>
>> Zooming Into a CPU (It's Incredible)
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bez-2cvYja0
>>
>> imec has coined the term CMOS 2.0:
>>
>> LEUVEN (Belgium), MARCH 12th, 2026 — Imec,
>> a world-leading research and innovation hub
>> in advanced semiconductor technologies, has
>> launched a first-of-its-kind consortium with
>> 26 European university groups that will jointly
>> work on the technology roadmap beyond
>> CMOS scaling (CMOS 2.0).
>> https://www.imec-int.com/en/press/imec-launches-university-consortium-around-next-generation-chips
>>
>>
>> So we might see more mobile grade GPUs.
>>
>> Bye
>

RDMA and the like basically give up "memory protection" for "sharing".

Not everybody is interested in "sharing" their memory,
which is the state of the world, with others,
in terms of RAM or memory and DISK or the durable.


So, it's a sort of "devolution", in terms of systems with
protections and multiple users, in terms of one big fat user.


It's like the king with all the keys to the kingdom
banning locks so to not be lugging around all the keys,
then whether he's one-eyed.


Shut Up




Mature, efficient economies basically have an interest rate of zero,
like Switzerland and how Japan was. Non-zero rates are a sign
of market inefficiencies and inversions.



Shut Up



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#646920 — Rossy Boy is confused : HBM != RDMA [UK Brexit Paranoids] (Was: Economy of Maturation: Mobile HBM Coming!)

FromMild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm>
Date2026-07-22 16:17 +0200
SubjectRossy Boy is confused : HBM != RDMA [UK Brexit Paranoids] (Was: Economy of Maturation: Mobile HBM Coming!)
Message-ID<113qjel$7gnc$1@solani.org>
In reply to#646919
Hi,

Where the hell do you read something RDMA,
in a post about on-device memory.

I didn't post anything about RDMA in the
below, still you go on a tangent,

like a mad hutter, worse than CCCP troll
micro penis. Could it be that UK and

Brexit turned people into even more paranoid
figures than than the CCCP break up?

BYe

Ross Finlayson schrieb:
> On 07/22/2026 04:28 AM, Mild Shock wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> "Mobile HBM" refers to a new, under-development
>> form of High Bandwidth Memory (HBM) optimized
>> specifically for energy-efficient mobile devices
>> like smartphones. Manufacturers such as Samsung
>> and SK Hynix are developing this technology to
>> make the massive data bandwidth required for complex,
>> on-device AI applications available within the strict
>> power and space constraints of mobile phones.
>>
>> Unlike classic HBM solutions, which rely on
>> extra-wide silicon interposers for massive data
>> throughput in data centers and graphics cards,
>> Mobile HBM utilizes stacked LPDDR architectures.
>> The goal is to drastically reduce power consumption
>> and heat generation so that large AI models can
>> run directly on the device (on-device) without
>> placing too heavy a load on the battery. The
>> technology is expected to hit the market starting
>> in 2026/2027, with Apple among those showing great
>> interest in integrating it into future iPhone generations."
>>
>> https://www.remio.ai/post/mobile-hbm-the-ai-memory-tech-that-could-reshape-the-iphone 
>>
>>
>>
>> Just think of a Mac Neo, which has now 8 GB,
>> but the memory going 3D in 12 layers, thats a
>> massive of 96 GB very fast memory.
>>
>> Economy of scale comes later, when the same CPU/
>> GPU/RAM combo is used for phones, tablets, desktop,
>> or with other humidity and temperature parameters
>>
>> for cars, robots, drones, etc...
>>
>> Bye
>>
>> Mild Shock schrieb:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> For marketing purposes people
>>> typically look at the race towards
>>> 2nm, and we find:
>>>
>>> A month ago, Apple lost its exclusivity
>>> on 3 nm smartphone processors with
>>> MediaTek’s Dimensity 9400 chip, integrated
>>> in the Vivo X200 Pro smartphone. Qualcomm
>>> is also in the race with its recently
>>> unveiled Snapdragon 8 Elite and set to
>>> power the Xiaomi 15 Pro in 2025. However,
>>> Apple should regain its position as innovation
>>> leader in 2026 with the release of the
>>> iPhone 18, which should feature the A20
>>> chip built on TSMC’s 2 nm process."
>>>
>>> But there is a vertical vias revolution
>>> going on as well, some SOCs typically
>>> being at 18 layers now:
>>>
>>> Zooming Into a CPU (It's Incredible)
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bez-2cvYja0
>>>
>>> imec has coined the term CMOS 2.0:
>>>
>>> LEUVEN (Belgium), MARCH 12th, 2026 — Imec,
>>> a world-leading research and innovation hub
>>> in advanced semiconductor technologies, has
>>> launched a first-of-its-kind consortium with
>>> 26 European university groups that will jointly
>>> work on the technology roadmap beyond
>>> CMOS scaling (CMOS 2.0).
>>> https://www.imec-int.com/en/press/imec-launches-university-consortium-around-next-generation-chips 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> So we might see more mobile grade GPUs.
>>>
>>> Bye
>>
> 
> RDMA and the like basically give up "memory protection" for "sharing".
> 
> Not everybody is interested in "sharing" their memory,
> which is the state of the world, with others,
> in terms of RAM or memory and DISK or the durable.
> 
> 
> So, it's a sort of "devolution", in terms of systems with
> protections and multiple users, in terms of one big fat user.
> 
> 
> It's like the king with all the keys to the kingdom
> banning locks so to not be lugging around all the keys,
> then whether he's one-eyed.
> 
> 
> Shut Up
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Mature, efficient economies basically have an interest rate of zero,
> like Switzerland and how Japan was. Non-zero rates are a sign
> of market inefficiencies and inversions.
> 
> 
> 
> Shut Up
> 
> 
> 
> 

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#646921 — Hardware engineering as a cyber crime conspiration (Re: Rossy Boy is confused : HBM != RDMA [UK Brexit Paranoids])

FromMild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm>
Date2026-07-22 16:24 +0200
SubjectHardware engineering as a cyber crime conspiration (Re: Rossy Boy is confused : HBM != RDMA [UK Brexit Paranoids])
Message-ID<113qjqi$7gnc$4@solani.org>
In reply to#646920
Hi,

Hey Rossy Boy and Micro Penis, maybe choose
another hobby than computer science. Your
brains are completely foggy, you cannot

concentrate on AI and software engineering.
You should go back to cruising gay bars.
It seems you are constantly in a state

of some cyber crime conspiration. LoL

Bye

Mild Shock schrieb:
> Hi,
> 
> Where the hell do you read something RDMA,
> in a post about on-device memory.
> 
> I didn't post anything about RDMA in the
> below, still you go on a tangent,
> 
> like a mad hutter, worse than CCCP troll
> micro penis. Could it be that UK and
> 
> Brexit turned people into even more paranoid
> figures than than the CCCP break up?
> 
> BYe
> 
> Ross Finlayson schrieb:
>> On 07/22/2026 04:28 AM, Mild Shock wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> "Mobile HBM" refers to a new, under-development
>>> form of High Bandwidth Memory (HBM) optimized
>>> specifically for energy-efficient mobile devices
>>> like smartphones. Manufacturers such as Samsung
>>> and SK Hynix are developing this technology to
>>> make the massive data bandwidth required for complex,
>>> on-device AI applications available within the strict
>>> power and space constraints of mobile phones.
>>>
>>> Unlike classic HBM solutions, which rely on
>>> extra-wide silicon interposers for massive data
>>> throughput in data centers and graphics cards,
>>> Mobile HBM utilizes stacked LPDDR architectures.
>>> The goal is to drastically reduce power consumption
>>> and heat generation so that large AI models can
>>> run directly on the device (on-device) without
>>> placing too heavy a load on the battery. The
>>> technology is expected to hit the market starting
>>> in 2026/2027, with Apple among those showing great
>>> interest in integrating it into future iPhone generations."
>>>
>>> https://www.remio.ai/post/mobile-hbm-the-ai-memory-tech-that-could-reshape-the-iphone 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Just think of a Mac Neo, which has now 8 GB,
>>> but the memory going 3D in 12 layers, thats a
>>> massive of 96 GB very fast memory.
>>>
>>> Economy of scale comes later, when the same CPU/
>>> GPU/RAM combo is used for phones, tablets, desktop,
>>> or with other humidity and temperature parameters
>>>
>>> for cars, robots, drones, etc...
>>>
>>> Bye
>>>
>>> Mild Shock schrieb:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> For marketing purposes people
>>>> typically look at the race towards
>>>> 2nm, and we find:
>>>>
>>>> A month ago, Apple lost its exclusivity
>>>> on 3 nm smartphone processors with
>>>> MediaTek’s Dimensity 9400 chip, integrated
>>>> in the Vivo X200 Pro smartphone. Qualcomm
>>>> is also in the race with its recently
>>>> unveiled Snapdragon 8 Elite and set to
>>>> power the Xiaomi 15 Pro in 2025. However,
>>>> Apple should regain its position as innovation
>>>> leader in 2026 with the release of the
>>>> iPhone 18, which should feature the A20
>>>> chip built on TSMC’s 2 nm process."
>>>>
>>>> But there is a vertical vias revolution
>>>> going on as well, some SOCs typically
>>>> being at 18 layers now:
>>>>
>>>> Zooming Into a CPU (It's Incredible)
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bez-2cvYja0
>>>>
>>>> imec has coined the term CMOS 2.0:
>>>>
>>>> LEUVEN (Belgium), MARCH 12th, 2026 — Imec,
>>>> a world-leading research and innovation hub
>>>> in advanced semiconductor technologies, has
>>>> launched a first-of-its-kind consortium with
>>>> 26 European university groups that will jointly
>>>> work on the technology roadmap beyond
>>>> CMOS scaling (CMOS 2.0).
>>>> https://www.imec-int.com/en/press/imec-launches-university-consortium-around-next-generation-chips 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> So we might see more mobile grade GPUs.
>>>>
>>>> Bye
>>>
>>
>> RDMA and the like basically give up "memory protection" for "sharing".
>>
>> Not everybody is interested in "sharing" their memory,
>> which is the state of the world, with others,
>> in terms of RAM or memory and DISK or the durable.
>>
>>
>> So, it's a sort of "devolution", in terms of systems with
>> protections and multiple users, in terms of one big fat user.
>>
>>
>> It's like the king with all the keys to the kingdom
>> banning locks so to not be lugging around all the keys,
>> then whether he's one-eyed.
>>
>>
>> Shut Up
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Mature, efficient economies basically have an interest rate of zero,
>> like Switzerland and how Japan was. Non-zero rates are a sign
>> of market inefficiencies and inversions.
>>
>>
>>
>> Shut Up
>>
>>
>>
>>
> 

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#646922 — Don't cruise gay bars, might end up like Alan Turing (Re: Hardware engineering as a cyber crime conspiration)

FromMild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm>
Date2026-07-22 16:29 +0200
SubjectDon't cruise gay bars, might end up like Alan Turing (Re: Hardware engineering as a cyber crime conspiration)
Message-ID<113qk4f$7h4k$2@solani.org>
In reply to#646921
Hi,

Ok, maybe as a UK citizen cruise gay bars,
same for a CCCP member, could indeed pose
a cyber treat. You might end up like Alan

Turing, with removed testicles.

Although nobody would notice in the case
of Rossy Boy and Micro Penis. They have
anyways their testicles already removed.

Maybe a better hobby is indeed a dog!

Have Fun!

Bye

Mild Shock schrieb:
> Hi,
> 
> Hey Rossy Boy and Micro Penis, maybe choose
> another hobby than computer science. Your
> brains are completely foggy, you cannot
> 
> concentrate on AI and software engineering.
> You should go back to cruising gay bars.
> It seems you are constantly in a state
> 
> of some cyber crime conspiration. LoL
> 
> Bye
> 
> Mild Shock schrieb:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Where the hell do you read something RDMA,
>> in a post about on-device memory.
>>
>> I didn't post anything about RDMA in the
>> below, still you go on a tangent,
>>
>> like a mad hutter, worse than CCCP troll
>> micro penis. Could it be that UK and
>>
>> Brexit turned people into even more paranoid
>> figures than than the CCCP break up?
>>
>> BYe
>>
>> Ross Finlayson schrieb:
>>> On 07/22/2026 04:28 AM, Mild Shock wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> "Mobile HBM" refers to a new, under-development
>>>> form of High Bandwidth Memory (HBM) optimized
>>>> specifically for energy-efficient mobile devices
>>>> like smartphones. Manufacturers such as Samsung
>>>> and SK Hynix are developing this technology to
>>>> make the massive data bandwidth required for complex,
>>>> on-device AI applications available within the strict
>>>> power and space constraints of mobile phones.
>>>>
>>>> Unlike classic HBM solutions, which rely on
>>>> extra-wide silicon interposers for massive data
>>>> throughput in data centers and graphics cards,
>>>> Mobile HBM utilizes stacked LPDDR architectures.
>>>> The goal is to drastically reduce power consumption
>>>> and heat generation so that large AI models can
>>>> run directly on the device (on-device) without
>>>> placing too heavy a load on the battery. The
>>>> technology is expected to hit the market starting
>>>> in 2026/2027, with Apple among those showing great
>>>> interest in integrating it into future iPhone generations."
>>>>
>>>> https://www.remio.ai/post/mobile-hbm-the-ai-memory-tech-that-could-reshape-the-iphone 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Just think of a Mac Neo, which has now 8 GB,
>>>> but the memory going 3D in 12 layers, thats a
>>>> massive of 96 GB very fast memory.
>>>>
>>>> Economy of scale comes later, when the same CPU/
>>>> GPU/RAM combo is used for phones, tablets, desktop,
>>>> or with other humidity and temperature parameters
>>>>
>>>> for cars, robots, drones, etc...
>>>>
>>>> Bye
>>>>
>>>> Mild Shock schrieb:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> For marketing purposes people
>>>>> typically look at the race towards
>>>>> 2nm, and we find:
>>>>>
>>>>> A month ago, Apple lost its exclusivity
>>>>> on 3 nm smartphone processors with
>>>>> MediaTek’s Dimensity 9400 chip, integrated
>>>>> in the Vivo X200 Pro smartphone. Qualcomm
>>>>> is also in the race with its recently
>>>>> unveiled Snapdragon 8 Elite and set to
>>>>> power the Xiaomi 15 Pro in 2025. However,
>>>>> Apple should regain its position as innovation
>>>>> leader in 2026 with the release of the
>>>>> iPhone 18, which should feature the A20
>>>>> chip built on TSMC’s 2 nm process."
>>>>>
>>>>> But there is a vertical vias revolution
>>>>> going on as well, some SOCs typically
>>>>> being at 18 layers now:
>>>>>
>>>>> Zooming Into a CPU (It's Incredible)
>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bez-2cvYja0
>>>>>
>>>>> imec has coined the term CMOS 2.0:
>>>>>
>>>>> LEUVEN (Belgium), MARCH 12th, 2026 — Imec,
>>>>> a world-leading research and innovation hub
>>>>> in advanced semiconductor technologies, has
>>>>> launched a first-of-its-kind consortium with
>>>>> 26 European university groups that will jointly
>>>>> work on the technology roadmap beyond
>>>>> CMOS scaling (CMOS 2.0).
>>>>> https://www.imec-int.com/en/press/imec-launches-university-consortium-around-next-generation-chips 
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> So we might see more mobile grade GPUs.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bye
>>>>
>>>
>>> RDMA and the like basically give up "memory protection" for "sharing".
>>>
>>> Not everybody is interested in "sharing" their memory,
>>> which is the state of the world, with others,
>>> in terms of RAM or memory and DISK or the durable.
>>>
>>>
>>> So, it's a sort of "devolution", in terms of systems with
>>> protections and multiple users, in terms of one big fat user.
>>>
>>>
>>> It's like the king with all the keys to the kingdom
>>> banning locks so to not be lugging around all the keys,
>>> then whether he's one-eyed.
>>>
>>>
>>> Shut Up
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Mature, efficient economies basically have an interest rate of zero,
>>> like Switzerland and how Japan was. Non-zero rates are a sign
>>> of market inefficiencies and inversions.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Shut Up
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
> 

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#646924 — Re: Don't cruise gay bars, might end up like Alan Turing (Re: Hardware engineering as a cyber crime conspiration)

FromRoss Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com>
Date2026-07-22 07:42 -0700
SubjectRe: Don't cruise gay bars, might end up like Alan Turing (Re: Hardware engineering as a cyber crime conspiration)
Message-ID<YXWdnfGdqd_SSv33nZ2dnZfqn_qdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#646922
On 07/22/2026 07:29 AM, Mild Shock wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Ok, maybe as a UK citizen cruise gay bars,
> same for a CCCP member, could indeed pose
> a cyber treat. You might end up like Alan
>
> Turing, with removed testicles.
>
> Although nobody would notice in the case
> of Rossy Boy and Micro Penis. They have
> anyways their testicles already removed.
>
> Maybe a better hobby is indeed a dog!
>
> Have Fun!
>
> Bye
>
> Mild Shock schrieb:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Hey Rossy Boy and Micro Penis, maybe choose
>> another hobby than computer science. Your
>> brains are completely foggy, you cannot
>>
>> concentrate on AI and software engineering.
>> You should go back to cruising gay bars.
>> It seems you are constantly in a state
>>
>> of some cyber crime conspiration. LoL
>>
>> Bye
>>
>> Mild Shock schrieb:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Where the hell do you read something RDMA,
>>> in a post about on-device memory.
>>>
>>> I didn't post anything about RDMA in the
>>> below, still you go on a tangent,
>>>
>>> like a mad hutter, worse than CCCP troll
>>> micro penis. Could it be that UK and
>>>
>>> Brexit turned people into even more paranoid
>>> figures than than the CCCP break up?
>>>
>>> BYe
>>>
>>> Ross Finlayson schrieb:
>>>> On 07/22/2026 04:28 AM, Mild Shock wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> "Mobile HBM" refers to a new, under-development
>>>>> form of High Bandwidth Memory (HBM) optimized
>>>>> specifically for energy-efficient mobile devices
>>>>> like smartphones. Manufacturers such as Samsung
>>>>> and SK Hynix are developing this technology to
>>>>> make the massive data bandwidth required for complex,
>>>>> on-device AI applications available within the strict
>>>>> power and space constraints of mobile phones.
>>>>>
>>>>> Unlike classic HBM solutions, which rely on
>>>>> extra-wide silicon interposers for massive data
>>>>> throughput in data centers and graphics cards,
>>>>> Mobile HBM utilizes stacked LPDDR architectures.
>>>>> The goal is to drastically reduce power consumption
>>>>> and heat generation so that large AI models can
>>>>> run directly on the device (on-device) without
>>>>> placing too heavy a load on the battery. The
>>>>> technology is expected to hit the market starting
>>>>> in 2026/2027, with Apple among those showing great
>>>>> interest in integrating it into future iPhone generations."
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.remio.ai/post/mobile-hbm-the-ai-memory-tech-that-could-reshape-the-iphone
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Just think of a Mac Neo, which has now 8 GB,
>>>>> but the memory going 3D in 12 layers, thats a
>>>>> massive of 96 GB very fast memory.
>>>>>
>>>>> Economy of scale comes later, when the same CPU/
>>>>> GPU/RAM combo is used for phones, tablets, desktop,
>>>>> or with other humidity and temperature parameters
>>>>>
>>>>> for cars, robots, drones, etc...
>>>>>
>>>>> Bye
>>>>>
>>>>> Mild Shock schrieb:
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For marketing purposes people
>>>>>> typically look at the race towards
>>>>>> 2nm, and we find:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A month ago, Apple lost its exclusivity
>>>>>> on 3 nm smartphone processors with
>>>>>> MediaTek’s Dimensity 9400 chip, integrated
>>>>>> in the Vivo X200 Pro smartphone. Qualcomm
>>>>>> is also in the race with its recently
>>>>>> unveiled Snapdragon 8 Elite and set to
>>>>>> power the Xiaomi 15 Pro in 2025. However,
>>>>>> Apple should regain its position as innovation
>>>>>> leader in 2026 with the release of the
>>>>>> iPhone 18, which should feature the A20
>>>>>> chip built on TSMC’s 2 nm process."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But there is a vertical vias revolution
>>>>>> going on as well, some SOCs typically
>>>>>> being at 18 layers now:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Zooming Into a CPU (It's Incredible)
>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bez-2cvYja0
>>>>>>
>>>>>> imec has coined the term CMOS 2.0:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> LEUVEN (Belgium), MARCH 12th, 2026 — Imec,
>>>>>> a world-leading research and innovation hub
>>>>>> in advanced semiconductor technologies, has
>>>>>> launched a first-of-its-kind consortium with
>>>>>> 26 European university groups that will jointly
>>>>>> work on the technology roadmap beyond
>>>>>> CMOS scaling (CMOS 2.0).
>>>>>> https://www.imec-int.com/en/press/imec-launches-university-consortium-around-next-generation-chips
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So we might see more mobile grade GPUs.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bye
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> RDMA and the like basically give up "memory protection" for "sharing".
>>>>
>>>> Not everybody is interested in "sharing" their memory,
>>>> which is the state of the world, with others,
>>>> in terms of RAM or memory and DISK or the durable.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> So, it's a sort of "devolution", in terms of systems with
>>>> protections and multiple users, in terms of one big fat user.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It's like the king with all the keys to the kingdom
>>>> banning locks so to not be lugging around all the keys,
>>>> then whether he's one-eyed.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Shut Up
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Mature, efficient economies basically have an interest rate of zero,
>>>> like Switzerland and how Japan was. Non-zero rates are a sign
>>>> of market inefficiencies and inversions.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Shut Up
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>

I cruise all bars, ....



I can testify that my current testicles are scrutable.


Life experience here includes 100+ natural, free, lady lovers.


Anyways as your hormone supplements kick in and your 32'nd testicle
drops, watch out they don't get twisted the vesicles.



Shut Up


The decades of sock-puppet pollution and nym-shifting bots
has really gotten old.


Shut Up

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#646954 — Re: Don't cruise gay bars, might end up like Alan Turing (Re: Hardware engineering as a cyber crime conspiration)

FromEliesky Babkov <vleyve@es.ru>
Date2026-07-23 16:10 +0000
SubjectRe: Don't cruise gay bars, might end up like Alan Turing (Re: Hardware engineering as a cyber crime conspiration)
Message-ID<113tee6$2iano$2@news.nntp4.net>
In reply to#646922
Mild Shock wrote:

> Ok, maybe as a UK citizen cruise gay bars,
> same for a CCCP member, could indeed pose a cyber treat. You might end
> up like Alan
> 
> Turing, with removed testicles.

Just keep Putin far far away from any further talks cuz that idiot will 
believe anything Trump says.

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#646923 — Re: Rossy Boy is confused : HBM != RDMA [UK Brexit Paranoids] (Was: Economy of Maturation: Mobile HBM Coming!)

FromRoss Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com>
Date2026-07-22 07:38 -0700
SubjectRe: Rossy Boy is confused : HBM != RDMA [UK Brexit Paranoids] (Was: Economy of Maturation: Mobile HBM Coming!)
Message-ID<HKmcnVja2NYtSP33nZ2dnZfqnPednZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#646920
On 07/22/2026 07:17 AM, Mild Shock wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Where the hell do you read something RDMA,
> in a post about on-device memory.
>
> I didn't post anything about RDMA in the
> below, still you go on a tangent,
>
> like a mad hutter, worse than CCCP troll
> micro penis. Could it be that UK and
>
> Brexit turned people into even more paranoid
> figures than than the CCCP break up?
>
> BYe
>
> Ross Finlayson schrieb:
>> On 07/22/2026 04:28 AM, Mild Shock wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> "Mobile HBM" refers to a new, under-development
>>> form of High Bandwidth Memory (HBM) optimized
>>> specifically for energy-efficient mobile devices
>>> like smartphones. Manufacturers such as Samsung
>>> and SK Hynix are developing this technology to
>>> make the massive data bandwidth required for complex,
>>> on-device AI applications available within the strict
>>> power and space constraints of mobile phones.
>>>
>>> Unlike classic HBM solutions, which rely on
>>> extra-wide silicon interposers for massive data
>>> throughput in data centers and graphics cards,
>>> Mobile HBM utilizes stacked LPDDR architectures.
>>> The goal is to drastically reduce power consumption
>>> and heat generation so that large AI models can
>>> run directly on the device (on-device) without
>>> placing too heavy a load on the battery. The
>>> technology is expected to hit the market starting
>>> in 2026/2027, with Apple among those showing great
>>> interest in integrating it into future iPhone generations."
>>>
>>> https://www.remio.ai/post/mobile-hbm-the-ai-memory-tech-that-could-reshape-the-iphone
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Just think of a Mac Neo, which has now 8 GB,
>>> but the memory going 3D in 12 layers, thats a
>>> massive of 96 GB very fast memory.
>>>
>>> Economy of scale comes later, when the same CPU/
>>> GPU/RAM combo is used for phones, tablets, desktop,
>>> or with other humidity and temperature parameters
>>>
>>> for cars, robots, drones, etc...
>>>
>>> Bye
>>>
>>> Mild Shock schrieb:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> For marketing purposes people
>>>> typically look at the race towards
>>>> 2nm, and we find:
>>>>
>>>> A month ago, Apple lost its exclusivity
>>>> on 3 nm smartphone processors with
>>>> MediaTek’s Dimensity 9400 chip, integrated
>>>> in the Vivo X200 Pro smartphone. Qualcomm
>>>> is also in the race with its recently
>>>> unveiled Snapdragon 8 Elite and set to
>>>> power the Xiaomi 15 Pro in 2025. However,
>>>> Apple should regain its position as innovation
>>>> leader in 2026 with the release of the
>>>> iPhone 18, which should feature the A20
>>>> chip built on TSMC’s 2 nm process."
>>>>
>>>> But there is a vertical vias revolution
>>>> going on as well, some SOCs typically
>>>> being at 18 layers now:
>>>>
>>>> Zooming Into a CPU (It's Incredible)
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bez-2cvYja0
>>>>
>>>> imec has coined the term CMOS 2.0:
>>>>
>>>> LEUVEN (Belgium), MARCH 12th, 2026 — Imec,
>>>> a world-leading research and innovation hub
>>>> in advanced semiconductor technologies, has
>>>> launched a first-of-its-kind consortium with
>>>> 26 European university groups that will jointly
>>>> work on the technology roadmap beyond
>>>> CMOS scaling (CMOS 2.0).
>>>> https://www.imec-int.com/en/press/imec-launches-university-consortium-around-next-generation-chips
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> So we might see more mobile grade GPUs.
>>>>
>>>> Bye
>>>
>>
>> RDMA and the like basically give up "memory protection" for "sharing".
>>
>> Not everybody is interested in "sharing" their memory,
>> which is the state of the world, with others,
>> in terms of RAM or memory and DISK or the durable.
>>
>>
>> So, it's a sort of "devolution", in terms of systems with
>> protections and multiple users, in terms of one big fat user.
>>
>>
>> It's like the king with all the keys to the kingdom
>> banning locks so to not be lugging around all the keys,
>> then whether he's one-eyed.
>>
>>
>> Shut Up
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Mature, efficient economies basically have an interest rate of zero,
>> like Switzerland and how Japan was. Non-zero rates are a sign
>> of market inefficiencies and inversions.
>>
>>
>>
>> Shut Up
>>
>>
>>
>>
>

Yeah I know, you just want to be king in an anarcho-syndicalist commune.


That's a contradiction in terms, free-loader.

Shut Up

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