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Ross A. Finlayson, readings in (some of the) foundations of mathematics

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  Ross A. Finlayson, readings in (some of the) foundations of mathematics olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-06-17 16:14 -0500
    Re: Ross A. Finlayson, readings in (some of the) foundations of mathematics olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-06-18 14:35 -0500
      Re: Ross A. Finlayson, readings in (some of the) foundations of mathematics Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2026-06-19 10:23 +0300
        Re: Ross A. Finlayson, readings in (some of the) foundations of mathematics olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-06-19 07:46 -0500
          Re: Ross A. Finlayson, readings in (some of the) foundations of mathematics Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de> - 2026-06-19 20:28 +0000
            Re: Ross A. Finlayson, readings in (some of the) foundations of mathematics olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-06-19 15:50 -0500
              Re: Ross A. Finlayson, readings in (some of the) foundations of mathematics Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de> - 2026-06-19 21:05 +0000
                Re: Ross A. Finlayson, readings in (some of the) foundations of mathematics olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-06-19 16:24 -0500
            Re: Ross A. Finlayson, readings in (some of the) foundations of mathematics olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-06-19 15:57 -0500
            Re: Ross A. Finlayson, readings in (some of the) foundations of mathematics olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-06-19 18:30 -0500
              Re: Ross A. Finlayson, readings in (some of the) foundations of mathematics Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-06-19 22:27 -0700
                Re: Ross A. Finlayson, readings in (some of the) foundations of mathematics olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-06-20 09:20 -0500
            Re: Ross A. Finlayson, readings in (some of the) foundations of mathematics olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-06-19 21:35 -0500
              Re: Ross A. Finlayson, readings in (some of the) foundations of mathematics Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-06-19 22:27 -0700
                Re: Ross A. Finlayson, readings in (some of the) foundations of mathematics Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-06-19 23:04 -0700
                  Re: Ross A. Finlayson, readings in (some of the) foundations of mathematics olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-06-20 09:29 -0500
                Re: Ross A. Finlayson, readings in (some of the) foundations of mathematics olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-06-20 09:22 -0500
            Re: Ross A. Finlayson, readings in (some of the) foundations of mathematics olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-06-19 21:40 -0500
              Re: Ross A. Finlayson, readings in (some of the) foundations of mathematics Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2026-06-20 11:05 +0300
              Re: Ross A. Finlayson, readings in (some of the) foundations of mathematics olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-06-20 14:02 -0500
                Re: Ross A. Finlayson, readings in (some of the) foundations of mathematics dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2026-06-20 15:17 -0400
                  Re: Ross A. Finlayson, readings in (some of the) foundations of mathematics Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-06-20 12:30 -0700
                    Re: Ross A. Finlayson, readings in (some of the) foundations of mathematics olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-06-20 15:45 -0500
                  Re: Ross A. Finlayson, readings in (some of the) foundations of mathematics olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-06-20 15:03 -0500
                    Re: Ross A. Finlayson, readings in (some of the) foundations of mathematics dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2026-06-20 16:17 -0400
                      Re: Ross A. Finlayson, readings in (some of the) foundations of mathematics olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-06-20 16:03 -0500
                        Re: Ross A. Finlayson, readings in (some of the) foundations of mathematics dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2026-06-20 17:17 -0400
                      Re: Ross A. Finlayson, readings in (some of the) foundations of mathematics Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2026-06-21 13:02 +0300
                    Re: Ross A. Finlayson, readings in (some of the) foundations of mathematics Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2026-06-21 12:57 +0300
                      Re: Ross A. Finlayson, readings in (some of the) foundations of mathematics olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-06-21 18:51 -0500
                        Re: Ross A. Finlayson, readings in (some of the) foundations of mathematics dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2026-06-21 20:16 -0400
                        Re: Ross A. Finlayson, readings in (some of the) foundations of mathematics Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2026-06-22 10:13 +0300
                          Re: Ross A. Finlayson, readings in (some of the) foundations of mathematics olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-06-22 08:13 -0500
                            Re: Ross A. Finlayson, readings in (some of the) foundations of mathematics Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-06-22 11:01 -0700
                              Re: Ross A. Finlayson, readings in (some of the) foundations of mathematics olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-06-22 13:12 -0500
                              Re: Ross A. Finlayson, readings in (some of the) foundations of mathematics Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-06-22 12:28 -0700
                            Re: Ross A. Finlayson, readings in (some of the) foundations of mathematics Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2026-06-23 08:39 +0300
                              Re: Ross A. Finlayson, readings in (some of the) foundations of mathematics olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-06-25 08:43 -0500
                                Re: Ross A. Finlayson, readings in (some of the) foundations of mathematics Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2026-06-26 09:17 +0300
                                  Re: Ross A. Finlayson, readings in (some of the) foundations of mathematics olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-06-26 07:59 -0500
                                    Re: Ross A. Finlayson, readings in (some of the) foundations of mathematics Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2026-06-27 10:16 +0300
                Re: Ross A. Finlayson, readings in (some of the) foundations of mathematics Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2026-06-21 12:48 +0300
                  Re: Ross A. Finlayson, readings in (some of the) foundations of mathematics olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-06-21 13:36 -0500
                    Re: Ross A. Finlayson, readings in (some of the) foundations of mathematics phoenix <j63840576@gmail.com> - 2026-06-21 12:54 -0600
                    Re: Ross A. Finlayson, readings in (some of the) foundations of mathematics Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2026-06-22 09:23 +0300
            Re: Ross A. Finlayson, readings in (some of the) foundations of mathematics olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-06-20 08:50 -0500
              Re: Ross A. Finlayson, readings in (some of the) foundations of mathematics Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de> - 2026-06-20 15:34 +0000
                Re: Ross A. Finlayson, readings in (some of the) foundations of mathematics olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-06-20 10:47 -0500
                  Re: Ross A. Finlayson, readings in (some of the) foundations of mathematics Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de> - 2026-06-20 16:08 +0000
                    Re: Ross A. Finlayson, readings in (some of the) foundations of mathematics olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-06-20 11:37 -0500
                Re: Ross A. Finlayson, readings in (some of the) foundations of mathematics olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-07-11 22:52 -0500
              Re: Ross A. Finlayson, readings in (some of the) foundations of mathematics Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2026-06-21 13:11 +0300
                Re: Ross A. Finlayson, readings in (some of the) foundations of mathematics olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-06-21 18:55 -0500
                  Re: Ross A. Finlayson, readings in (some of the) foundations of mathematics Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2026-06-22 09:27 +0300
                    Re: Ross A. Finlayson, readings in (some of the) foundations of mathematics olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-06-22 07:05 -0500
                      Re: Ross A. Finlayson, readings in (some of the) foundations of mathematics Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2026-06-23 08:43 +0300
                        Re: Ross A. Finlayson, readings in (some of the) --- One-two punch Destroys Liars olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-06-23 09:38 -0500
                          Re: Ross A. Finlayson, readings in (some of the) --- One-two punch Destroys Liars Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-06-23 08:53 -0700
            Re: Ross A. Finlayson, readings in (some of the) foundations of mathematics olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-06-20 09:51 -0500
              Re: Ross A. Finlayson, readings in (some of the) foundations of mathematics Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2026-06-21 14:04 +0300
            Re: Ross A. Finlayson, readings in (some of the) foundations of mathematics olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-06-21 16:39 -0500
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                Re: Ross A. Finlayson, readings in (some of the) foundations of mathematics olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-06-21 18:15 -0500
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                    Re: Ross A. Finlayson, readings in (some of the) foundations of mathematics olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-06-21 19:44 -0500
                      Re: Ross A. Finlayson, readings in (some of the) foundations of mathematics Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2026-06-22 10:46 +0300
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                                    Re: Ross A. Finlayson, readings in (some of the) foundations of mathematics polcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-06-27 10:34 -0500
                    Re: Ross A. Finlayson, readings in (some of the) foundations of mathematics Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-06-21 21:27 -0700
                      Re: Ross A. Finlayson, readings in (some of the) foundations of mathematics Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-06-22 00:22 -0700
                  Re: Ross A. Finlayson, readings in (some of the) foundations of mathematics Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-06-21 21:16 -0700
              Re: Ross A. Finlayson, readings in (some of the) foundations of mathematics André G. Isaak <agisaak@gm.invalid> - 2026-06-21 18:05 -0600
                Re: Ross A. Finlayson, readings in (some of the) foundations of mathematics olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-06-21 19:14 -0500
          Re: Ross A. Finlayson, readings in (some of the) foundations of mathematics Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2026-06-20 10:50 +0300
            Re: Ross A. Finlayson, readings in (some of the) foundations of mathematics olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-06-20 09:41 -0500
              Re: Ross A. Finlayson, readings in (some of the) foundations of mathematics Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2026-06-21 13:17 +0300
                Re: Ross A. Finlayson, readings in (some of the) foundations of mathematics olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-06-21 18:58 -0500
                  Re: Ross A. Finlayson, readings in (some of the) foundations of mathematics Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2026-06-22 09:41 +0300
                    Re: Ross A. Finlayson, readings in (some of the) foundations of mathematics olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-06-22 07:09 -0500
                      Re: Ross A. Finlayson, readings in (some of the) foundations of mathematics Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2026-06-23 08:55 +0300
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                                  Re: Ross A. Finlayson, readings in (some of the) foundations of mathematics Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2026-06-28 11:04 +0300
      Re: Ross A. Finlayson, readings in (some of the) foundations of mathematics Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-06-19 22:25 -0700
        Re: Ross A. Finlayson, readings in (some of the) foundations of mathematics olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-06-20 09:18 -0500
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                      Re: Ross A. Finlayson, readings in (some of the) foundations of mathematics Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-06-20 09:47 -0700
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                      Re: Ross A. Finlayson, readings in (some of the) foundations of mathematics Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de> - 2026-06-20 19:48 +0000
                        Readings in (some of the) foundations of mathematics --- analytic/synthetic distinction olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-06-20 16:00 -0500
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                                Disjunction introduction --- new premise from out of no where olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-06-20 17:26 -0500
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                                                    Re: Disjunction introduction --- new premise from out of no where "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-06-25 12:54 -0700
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                          Re: Readings in (some of the) foundations of mathematics --- analytic/synthetic distinction Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de> - 2026-06-20 21:43 +0000
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                                                                        Re: Ross A. Finlayson, readings in (some of the) --- cycles in directed graphs olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-06-30 22:01 -0500
                                                                          Re: Ross A. Finlayson, readings in (some of the) --- cycles in directed graphs Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-07-01 05:13 -0700
                                                                            Re: Ross A. Finlayson, readings in (some of the) --- cycles in directed graphs olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-07-01 09:59 -0500
                                                                              Re: Ross A. Finlayson, readings in (some of the) --- cycles in directed graphs Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-07-01 10:00 -0700
                                                                                DAG of all general knowledge that can be expressed in Language olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-07-01 12:57 -0500
                                                                                  Re: DAG of all general knowledge that can be expressed in Language Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-07-01 12:31 -0700
                                                                                    Re: DAG of all general knowledge that can be expressed in Language "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-07-01 12:37 -0700
                                                                                      Re: DAG of all general knowledge that can be expressed in Language Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-07-01 13:16 -0700
                                                                                        Re: DAG of all general knowledge that can be expressed in Language "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-07-01 18:59 -0700
                                                                                    Re: DAG of all general knowledge that can be expressed in Language olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-07-01 14:51 -0500
                                          Re: Ross A. Finlayson, readings in (some of the) --- cycles in directed  graphs Python <python@cccp.invalid> - 2026-06-23 21:04 +0000
                                            Re: Ross A. Finlayson, readings in (some of the) --- cycles in directed graphs Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-06-23 19:25 -0700
                                Re: Ross A. Finlayson, readings in (some of the) foundations of mathematics Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-06-22 21:16 -0700
                                  Re: Ross A. Finlayson, readings in (some of the) foundations of mathematics Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-06-22 21:28 -0700
                            Re: Ross A. Finlayson, readings in (some of the) foundations of mathematics olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-06-22 15:08 -0500
                        Re: Ross A. Finlayson, readings in (some of the) foundations of mathematics olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-06-23 09:17 -0500
                  Re: Ross A. Finlayson, readings in (some of the) foundations of mathematics Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2026-06-23 09:26 +0300

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#645432 — Ross A. Finlayson, readings in (some of the) foundations of mathematics

Fromolcott <polcott333@gmail.com>
Date2026-06-17 16:14 -0500
SubjectRoss A. Finlayson, readings in (some of the) foundations of mathematics
Message-ID<110v2oa$25osr$1@dont-email.me>
https://www.youtube.com/@rossfinlayson
Making sure to leave out

Proof-theoretic semantics
(an alternative to truth-condition semantics)
https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/proof-theoretic-semantics/


-- 
Copyright 2026 Olcott

My 28 year goal has been to make
"true on the basis of meaning expressed in language"
reliably computable for the entire body of knowledge.
The complete structure of this system is now defined.

The entire body of knowledge expressed in language is
comprised of two types of relations between finite strings:
(a) *Axioms* Expressions of language that are stipulated to be true.

My system bridges the analytic/synthetic distinction by
expressly encoding all empirical "atomic facts" in a formal
language such as CycL of the Cyc project.

(b) *Inference Rules* Expressions of language that are semantically
entailed syntactically from (a) and/or (b).

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#645452

Fromolcott <polcott333@gmail.com>
Date2026-06-18 14:35 -0500
Message-ID<1111haj$2rebc$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#645432
On 6/17/2026 4:14 PM, olcott wrote:
> https://www.youtube.com/@rossfinlayson
> Making sure to leave out
> 
> Proof-theoretic semantics
> (an alternative to truth-condition semantics)
> https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/proof-theoretic-semantics/
> 
> 

Some people only memorize conventional views and
reject alternative views out-of-hand without review.
This seems to be the rigidly conformist and memorize
by rote mindset.

-- 
Copyright 2026 Olcott

My 28 year goal has been to make
"true on the basis of meaning expressed in language"
reliably computable for the entire body of knowledge.
The complete structure of this system is now defined.

The entire body of knowledge expressed in language is
comprised of two types of relations between finite strings:
(a) *Axioms* Expressions of language that are stipulated to be true.

My system bridges the analytic/synthetic distinction by
expressly encoding all empirical "atomic facts" in a formal
language such as CycL of the Cyc project.

(b) *Inference Rules* Expressions of language that are semantically
entailed syntactically from (a) and/or (b).

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#645456

FromMikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi>
Date2026-06-19 10:23 +0300
Message-ID<1112qpk$35eeo$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#645452
On 18/06/2026 22:35, olcott wrote:
> On 6/17/2026 4:14 PM, olcott wrote:
>> https://www.youtube.com/@rossfinlayson
>> Making sure to leave out
>>
>> Proof-theoretic semantics
>> (an alternative to truth-condition semantics)
>> https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/proof-theoretic-semantics/
>>
>>
> 
> Some people only memorize conventional views and
> reject alternative views out-of-hand without review.

Whereas you are stuck to your own incoherent views and reject
alternative views out-of-hand without review.

-- 
Mikko

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#645457

Fromolcott <polcott333@gmail.com>
Date2026-06-19 07:46 -0500
Message-ID<1113dmf$3b090$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#645456
On 6/19/2026 2:23 AM, Mikko wrote:
> On 18/06/2026 22:35, olcott wrote:
>> On 6/17/2026 4:14 PM, olcott wrote:
>>> https://www.youtube.com/@rossfinlayson
>>> Making sure to leave out
>>>
>>> Proof-theoretic semantics
>>> (an alternative to truth-condition semantics)
>>> https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/proof-theoretic-semantics/
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Some people only memorize conventional views and
>> reject alternative views out-of-hand without review.
> 
> Whereas you are stuck to your own incoherent views and reject
> alternative views out-of-hand without review.
> 

Calling my views (anchored in proof theoretic semantics)
incoherent merely proves that you are too damned lazy to
look into proof theoretic semantics.
https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/proof-theoretic-semantics/

% This sentence is not true.
?- LP = not(true(LP)).
LP = not(true(LP)).
?- unify_with_occurs_check(LP, not(true(LP))).
false.

Coherently shows that the Liar Paradox cannot
be resolved to a well-founded justification tree.
-- 
Copyright 2026 Olcott

My 28 year goal has been to make
"true on the basis of meaning expressed in language"
reliably computable for the entire body of knowledge.
The complete structure of this system is now defined.

The entire body of knowledge expressed in language is
comprised of two types of relations between finite strings:
(a) *Axioms* Expressions of language that are stipulated to be true.

My system bridges the analytic/synthetic distinction by
expressly encoding all empirical "atomic facts" in a formal
language such as CycL of the Cyc project.

(b) *Inference Rules* Expressions of language that are semantically
entailed syntactically from (a) and/or (b).

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#645461

FromAlan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>
Date2026-06-19 20:28 +0000
Message-ID<11148q5$21ka$1@news.muc.de>
In reply to#645457
[ Followup-To: set ]

In comp.theory olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 6/19/2026 2:23 AM, Mikko wrote:
> > On 18/06/2026 22:35, olcott wrote:
> >> On 6/17/2026 4:14 PM, olcott wrote:
> >>> https://www.youtube.com/@rossfinlayson
> >>> Making sure to leave out

> >>> Proof-theoretic semantics
> >>> (an alternative to truth-condition semantics)
> >>> https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/proof-theoretic-semantics/



> >> Some people only memorize conventional views and
> >> reject alternative views out-of-hand without review.

> > Whereas you are stuck to your own incoherent views and reject
> > alternative views out-of-hand without review.


> Calling my views (anchored in proof theoretic semantics)
> incoherent merely proves that you are too damned lazy to
> look into proof theoretic semantics.
> https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/proof-theoretic-semantics/

I've spent a couple of hours reading that web page.  It is abstract in
the extreme.  One thing is utterly clear: its level of abstraction is
well beyond the comprehension capabilities of Peter Olcott, who can't
even understand proof by contradiction.

That page's level of abstraction is high enough that I can't be bothered
to read it any further.  If it actually says anything at all, that
something is heavily disguised.  From it's "Conclusion and Outlook"
section at the end:

  | Standard proof-theoretic semantics has practically exclusively been
  | occupied with logical constants. Logical constants play a central role
  | in reasoning and inference, but are definitely not the exclusive, and
  | perhaps not even the most typical sort of entities that can be defined
  | inferentially. A framework is needed that deals with inferential
  | definitions in a wider sense and covers both logical and extra-logical
  | inferential definitions alike.

Does this have any meaning?

I put it to everybody here that Peter Olcott has been bluffing.  He has
purported to understand Proof-theoretic semantics and repeatedly cited a
web page far outside his own understanding, believing nobody else would
ever challenge this deception.

I'm challenging it now.  Peter, you have repeatedly stated that Gödel's
Incompleteness Theorem is unproven when one takes PTS as a basis.  I put
it to you this is a lie, and that you are as clueless about PTS as you
are about Gödel's Theorem.  Feel free to refute my assertion.

Or, at the very least, explain in readily accessible English precisely
what is meant above by "logical constants" and how and why "they play a
central role in reasoning and inference".  I put it to you you cannot do
this.

-- 
Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).

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#645462

Fromolcott <polcott333@gmail.com>
Date2026-06-19 15:50 -0500
Message-ID<1114a36$3jhgk$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#645461
On 6/19/2026 3:28 PM, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
> [ Followup-To: set ]
> 
> In comp.theory olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 6/19/2026 2:23 AM, Mikko wrote:
>>> On 18/06/2026 22:35, olcott wrote:
>>>> On 6/17/2026 4:14 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/@rossfinlayson
>>>>> Making sure to leave out
> 
>>>>> Proof-theoretic semantics
>>>>> (an alternative to truth-condition semantics)
>>>>> https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/proof-theoretic-semantics/
> 
> 
> 
>>>> Some people only memorize conventional views and
>>>> reject alternative views out-of-hand without review.
> 
>>> Whereas you are stuck to your own incoherent views and reject
>>> alternative views out-of-hand without review.
> 
> 
>> Calling my views (anchored in proof theoretic semantics)
>> incoherent merely proves that you are too damned lazy to
>> look into proof theoretic semantics.
>> https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/proof-theoretic-semantics/
> 
> I've spent a couple of hours reading that web page.  It is abstract in
> the extreme.  One thing is utterly clear: its level of abstraction is
> well beyond the comprehension capabilities of Peter Olcott, who can't
> even understand proof by contradiction.
> 
> That page's level of abstraction is high enough that I can't be bothered
> to read it any further.  If it actually says anything at all, that
> something is heavily disguised.  From it's "Conclusion and Outlook"
> section at the end:
> 
>    | Standard proof-theoretic semantics has practically exclusively been
>    | occupied with logical constants. Logical constants play a central role
>    | in reasoning and inference, but are definitely not the exclusive, and
>    | perhaps not even the most typical sort of entities that can be defined
>    | inferentially. A framework is needed that deals with inferential
>    | definitions in a wider sense and covers both logical and extra-logical
>    | inferential definitions alike.
> 
> Does this have any meaning?
> 
> I put it to everybody here that Peter Olcott has been bluffing.  He has
> purported to understand Proof-theoretic semantics and repeatedly cited a
> web page far outside his own understanding, believing nobody else would
> ever challenge this deception.
> 
> I'm challenging it now.  Peter, you have repeatedly stated that Gödel's
> Incompleteness Theorem is unproven when one takes PTS as a basis.  I put
> it to you this is a lie, and that you are as clueless about PTS as you
> are about Gödel's Theorem.  Feel free to refute my assertion.
> 
> Or, at the very least, explain in readily accessible English precisely
> what is meant above by "logical constants" and how and why "they play a
> central role in reasoning and inference".  I put it to you you cannot do
> this.
> 

My basis in PTS is what is referred to in the Literature
as Dag Prawitz Theory of Grounds and its extensions and
elaborations.

https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0,42&q=Prawitz+theory+of+grounds 


I came up with all this stuff on my own entirely on
the basis of reverse-engineering from first principles.
I only very recently found out that it has an existing
basis in the work of others.

These are the usual things that PTS refers to:
Natural Deduction, Sequent Calculus, Martin-Löf Type Theory, 
Intuitionistic Logic. I extend the essence of PTS all the way
to natural language formalized as CycL.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CycL


-- 
Copyright 2026 Olcott

My 28 year goal has been to make
"true on the basis of meaning expressed in language"
reliably computable for the entire body of knowledge.
The complete structure of this system is now defined.

The entire body of knowledge expressed in language is
comprised of two types of relations between finite strings:
(a) *Axioms* Expressions of language that are stipulated to be true.

My system bridges the analytic/synthetic distinction by
expressly encoding all empirical "atomic facts" in a formal
language such as CycL of the Cyc project.

(b) *Inference Rules* Expressions of language that are semantically
entailed syntactically from (a) and/or (b).

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#645464

FromAlan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>
Date2026-06-19 21:05 +0000
Message-ID<1114av1$21ka$2@news.muc.de>
In reply to#645462
[ Followup-To: set ]

In comp.theory olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 6/19/2026 3:28 PM, Alan Mackenzie wrote:

> > In comp.theory olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On 6/19/2026 2:23 AM, Mikko wrote:
> >>> On 18/06/2026 22:35, olcott wrote:
> >>>> On 6/17/2026 4:14 PM, olcott wrote:
> >>>>> https://www.youtube.com/@rossfinlayson
> >>>>> Making sure to leave out

> >>>>> Proof-theoretic semantics
> >>>>> (an alternative to truth-condition semantics)
> >>>>> https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/proof-theoretic-semantics/



> >>>> Some people only memorize conventional views and
> >>>> reject alternative views out-of-hand without review.

> >>> Whereas you are stuck to your own incoherent views and reject
> >>> alternative views out-of-hand without review.


> >> Calling my views (anchored in proof theoretic semantics)
> >> incoherent merely proves that you are too damned lazy to
> >> look into proof theoretic semantics.
> >> https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/proof-theoretic-semantics/

> > I've spent a couple of hours reading that web page.  It is abstract in
> > the extreme.  One thing is utterly clear: its level of abstraction is
> > well beyond the comprehension capabilities of Peter Olcott, who can't
> > even understand proof by contradiction.

> > That page's level of abstraction is high enough that I can't be bothered
> > to read it any further.  If it actually says anything at all, that
> > something is heavily disguised.  From it's "Conclusion and Outlook"
> > section at the end:

> >    | Standard proof-theoretic semantics has practically exclusively been
> >    | occupied with logical constants. Logical constants play a central role
> >    | in reasoning and inference, but are definitely not the exclusive, and
> >    | perhaps not even the most typical sort of entities that can be defined
> >    | inferentially. A framework is needed that deals with inferential
> >    | definitions in a wider sense and covers both logical and extra-logical
> >    | inferential definitions alike.

> > Does this have any meaning?

> > I put it to everybody here that Peter Olcott has been bluffing.  He has
> > purported to understand Proof-theoretic semantics and repeatedly cited a
> > web page far outside his own understanding, believing nobody else would
> > ever challenge this deception.

> > I'm challenging it now.  Peter, you have repeatedly stated that Gödel's
> > Incompleteness Theorem is unproven when one takes PTS as a basis.  I put
> > it to you this is a lie, and that you are as clueless about PTS as you
> > are about Gödel's Theorem.  Feel free to refute my assertion.

> > Or, at the very least, explain in readily accessible English precisely
> > what is meant above by "logical constants" and how and why "they play a
> > central role in reasoning and inference".  I put it to you you cannot do
> > this.


> My basis in PTS is what is referred to in the Literature
> as Dag Prawitz Theory of Grounds and its extensions and
> elaborations.

> https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0,42&q=Prawitz+theory+of+grounds 

That's non-responsive to my point, which I'll repeat: you are as clueless
about PTS as you are about Gödel's Theorem.  You are as ignorant of PTS
as you are of mathematics.  Refute me by responding directly to the
points I made in my last post.

> I came up with all this stuff on my own entirely on
> the basis of reverse-engineering from first principles.
> I only very recently found out that it has an existing
> basis in the work of others.

> These are the usual things that PTS refers to:
> Natural Deduction, Sequent Calculus, Martin-Löf Type Theory, 
> Intuitionistic Logic. I extend the essence of PTS all the way
> to natural language formalized as CycL.
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CycL

All things beyond your understanding, if they are coherent things at all.

> -- 
> Copyright 2026 Olcott

-- 
Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).

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#645465

Fromolcott <polcott333@gmail.com>
Date2026-06-19 16:24 -0500
Message-ID<1114c1n$3k2f9$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#645464
On 6/19/2026 4:05 PM, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
> [ Followup-To: set ]
> 
> In comp.theory olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 6/19/2026 3:28 PM, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
> 
>>> In comp.theory olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On 6/19/2026 2:23 AM, Mikko wrote:
>>>>> On 18/06/2026 22:35, olcott wrote:
>>>>>> On 6/17/2026 4:14 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/@rossfinlayson
>>>>>>> Making sure to leave out
> 
>>>>>>> Proof-theoretic semantics
>>>>>>> (an alternative to truth-condition semantics)
>>>>>>> https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/proof-theoretic-semantics/
> 
> 
> 
>>>>>> Some people only memorize conventional views and
>>>>>> reject alternative views out-of-hand without review.
> 
>>>>> Whereas you are stuck to your own incoherent views and reject
>>>>> alternative views out-of-hand without review.
> 
> 
>>>> Calling my views (anchored in proof theoretic semantics)
>>>> incoherent merely proves that you are too damned lazy to
>>>> look into proof theoretic semantics.
>>>> https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/proof-theoretic-semantics/
> 
>>> I've spent a couple of hours reading that web page.  It is abstract in
>>> the extreme.  One thing is utterly clear: its level of abstraction is
>>> well beyond the comprehension capabilities of Peter Olcott, who can't
>>> even understand proof by contradiction.
> 
>>> That page's level of abstraction is high enough that I can't be bothered
>>> to read it any further.  If it actually says anything at all, that
>>> something is heavily disguised.  From it's "Conclusion and Outlook"
>>> section at the end:
> 
>>>     | Standard proof-theoretic semantics has practically exclusively been
>>>     | occupied with logical constants. Logical constants play a central role
>>>     | in reasoning and inference, but are definitely not the exclusive, and
>>>     | perhaps not even the most typical sort of entities that can be defined
>>>     | inferentially. A framework is needed that deals with inferential
>>>     | definitions in a wider sense and covers both logical and extra-logical
>>>     | inferential definitions alike.
> 
>>> Does this have any meaning?
> 
>>> I put it to everybody here that Peter Olcott has been bluffing.  He has
>>> purported to understand Proof-theoretic semantics and repeatedly cited a
>>> web page far outside his own understanding, believing nobody else would
>>> ever challenge this deception.
> 
>>> I'm challenging it now.  Peter, you have repeatedly stated that Gödel's
>>> Incompleteness Theorem is unproven when one takes PTS as a basis.  I put
>>> it to you this is a lie, and that you are as clueless about PTS as you
>>> are about Gödel's Theorem.  Feel free to refute my assertion.
> 
>>> Or, at the very least, explain in readily accessible English precisely
>>> what is meant above by "logical constants" and how and why "they play a
>>> central role in reasoning and inference".  I put it to you you cannot do
>>> this.
> 
> 
>> My basis in PTS is what is referred to in the Literature
>> as Dag Prawitz Theory of Grounds and its extensions and
>> elaborations.
> 
>> https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0,42&q=Prawitz+theory+of+grounds
> 
> That's non-responsive to my point, which I'll repeat: you are as clueless
> about PTS as you are about Gödel's Theorem.  You are as ignorant of PTS
> as you are of mathematics.  Refute me by responding directly to the
> points I made in my last post.
> 

You cannot possibly begin to see how PTS applies
to Gödel's Theorem until you first have a complete
and solid understanding of at least the gist of PTS.

When I tell people this gist they simply choose
to disbelieve me.

That I even know the expression: "Dag Prawitz Theory of Grounds"
proves that my understanding is not shallow.

>> I came up with all this stuff on my own entirely on
>> the basis of reverse-engineering from first principles.
>> I only very recently found out that it has an existing
>> basis in the work of others.
> 
>> These are the usual things that PTS refers to:
>> Natural Deduction, Sequent Calculus, Martin-Löf Type Theory,
>> Intuitionistic Logic. I extend the essence of PTS all the way
>> to natural language formalized as CycL.
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CycL
> 
> All things beyond your understanding, if they are coherent things at all.
> 
>> -- 
>> Copyright 2026 Olcott
> 


-- 
Copyright 2026 Olcott

My 28 year goal has been to make
"true on the basis of meaning expressed in language"
reliably computable for the entire body of knowledge.
The complete structure of this system is now defined.

The entire body of knowledge expressed in language is
comprised of two types of relations between finite strings:
(a) *Axioms* Expressions of language that are stipulated to be true.

My system bridges the analytic/synthetic distinction by
expressly encoding all empirical "atomic facts" in a formal
language such as CycL of the Cyc project.

(b) *Inference Rules* Expressions of language that are semantically
entailed syntactically from (a) and/or (b).

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#645463

Fromolcott <polcott333@gmail.com>
Date2026-06-19 15:57 -0500
Message-ID<1114afr$3jjho$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#645461
On 6/19/2026 3:49 PM, dart200 wrote:
> On 6/19/26 1:28 PM, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
>> [ Followup-To: set ]
>>
>> In comp.theory olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On 6/19/2026 2:23 AM, Mikko wrote:
>>>> On 18/06/2026 22:35, olcott wrote:
>>>>> On 6/17/2026 4:14 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/@rossfinlayson
>>>>>> Making sure to leave out
>>
>>>>>> Proof-theoretic semantics
>>>>>> (an alternative to truth-condition semantics)
>>>>>> https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/proof-theoretic-semantics/
>>
>>
>>
>>>>> Some people only memorize conventional views and
>>>>> reject alternative views out-of-hand without review.
>>
>>>> Whereas you are stuck to your own incoherent views and reject
>>>> alternative views out-of-hand without review.
>>
>>
>>> Calling my views (anchored in proof theoretic semantics)
>>> incoherent merely proves that you are too damned lazy to
>>> look into proof theoretic semantics.
>>> https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/proof-theoretic-semantics/
>>
>> I've spent a couple of hours reading that web page.  It is abstract in
>> the extreme.  One thing is utterly clear: its level of abstraction is
>> well beyond the comprehension capabilities of Peter Olcott, who can't
>> even understand proof by contradiction.
>>
>> That page's level of abstraction is high enough that I can't be bothered
>> to read it any further.  If it actually says anything at all, that
>> something is heavily disguised.  From it's "Conclusion and Outlook"
>> section at the end:
>>
>>    | Standard proof-theoretic semantics has practically exclusively been
>>    | occupied with logical constants. Logical constants play a central 
>> role
>>    | in reasoning and inference, but are definitely not the exclusive, 
>> and
>>    | perhaps not even the most typical sort of entities that can be 
>> defined
>>    | inferentially. A framework is needed that deals with inferential
>>    | definitions in a wider sense and covers both logical and extra- 
>> logical
>>    | inferential definitions alike.
>>
>> Does this have any meaning?
>>
>> I put it to everybody here that Peter Olcott has been bluffing.  He has
>> purported to understand Proof-theoretic semantics and repeatedly cited a
>> web page far outside his own understanding, believing nobody else would
>> ever challenge this deception.
>>
>> I'm challenging it now.  Peter, you have repeatedly stated that Gödel's
>> Incompleteness Theorem is unproven when one takes PTS as a basis.  I put
>> it to you this is a lie, and that you are as clueless about PTS as you
>> are about Gödel's Theorem.  Feel free to refute my assertion.
>>
>> Or, at the very least, explain in readily accessible English precisely
>> what is meant above by "logical constants" and how and why "they play a
>> central role in reasoning and inference".  I put it to you you cannot do
>> this.
>>
> 
> u ever gunna write something that isn't totally saturated with various 
> fallacies alan?
> 

I think that Alan did make a good start on the basis
of the article that I linked.

-- 
Copyright 2026 Olcott

My 28 year goal has been to make
"true on the basis of meaning expressed in language"
reliably computable for the entire body of knowledge.
The complete structure of this system is now defined.

The entire body of knowledge expressed in language is
comprised of two types of relations between finite strings:
(a) *Axioms* Expressions of language that are stipulated to be true.

My system bridges the analytic/synthetic distinction by
expressly encoding all empirical "atomic facts" in a formal
language such as CycL of the Cyc project.

(b) *Inference Rules* Expressions of language that are semantically
entailed syntactically from (a) and/or (b).

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#645466

Fromolcott <polcott333@gmail.com>
Date2026-06-19 18:30 -0500
Message-ID<1114jeu$3ltdf$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#645461
On 6/19/2026 3:28 PM, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
> [ Followup-To: set ]
> 
> In comp.theory olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 6/19/2026 2:23 AM, Mikko wrote:
>>> On 18/06/2026 22:35, olcott wrote:
>>>> On 6/17/2026 4:14 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/@rossfinlayson
>>>>> Making sure to leave out
> 
>>>>> Proof-theoretic semantics
>>>>> (an alternative to truth-condition semantics)
>>>>> https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/proof-theoretic-semantics/
> 
> 
> 
>>>> Some people only memorize conventional views and
>>>> reject alternative views out-of-hand without review.
> 
>>> Whereas you are stuck to your own incoherent views and reject
>>> alternative views out-of-hand without review.
> 
> 
>> Calling my views (anchored in proof theoretic semantics)
>> incoherent merely proves that you are too damned lazy to
>> look into proof theoretic semantics.
>> https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/proof-theoretic-semantics/
> 
> I've spent a couple of hours reading that web page.  It is abstract in
> the extreme.  One thing is utterly clear: its level of abstraction is
> well beyond the comprehension capabilities of Peter Olcott, who can't
> even understand proof by contradiction.
> 
> That page's level of abstraction is high enough that I can't be bothered
> to read it any further.  If it actually says anything at all, that
> something is heavily disguised.  From it's "Conclusion and Outlook"
> section at the end:
> 
>    | Standard proof-theoretic semantics has practically exclusively been
>    | occupied with logical constants. Logical constants play a central role
>    | in reasoning and inference, but are definitely not the exclusive, and
>    | perhaps not even the most typical sort of entities that can be defined
>    | inferentially. A framework is needed that deals with inferential
>    | definitions in a wider sense and covers both logical and extra-logical
>    | inferential definitions alike.
> 
> Does this have any meaning?
> 
> I put it to everybody here that Peter Olcott has been bluffing.  He has
> purported to understand Proof-theoretic semantics and repeatedly cited a
> web page far outside his own understanding, believing nobody else would
> ever challenge this deception.
> 
> I'm challenging it now.  Peter, you have repeatedly stated that Gödel's
> Incompleteness Theorem is unproven when one takes PTS as a basis.  I put
> it to you this is a lie, and that you are as clueless about PTS as you
> are about Gödel's Theorem.  Feel free to refute my assertion.
> 
> Or, at the very least, explain in readily accessible English precisely
> what is meant above by "logical constants" and how and why "they play a
> central role in reasoning and inference".  I put it to you you cannot do
> this.
> 

The field since 2016 has expanded to include what
logicians would call quantifier free FOL.

I will research this more so that I can explain
my own ideas within the frame-of-reference of PTS.


-- 
Copyright 2026 Olcott

My 28 year goal has been to make
"true on the basis of meaning expressed in language"
reliably computable for the entire body of knowledge.
The complete structure of this system is now defined.

The entire body of knowledge expressed in language is
comprised of two types of relations between finite strings:
(a) *Axioms* Expressions of language that are stipulated to be true.

My system bridges the analytic/synthetic distinction by
expressly encoding all empirical "atomic facts" in a formal
language such as CycL of the Cyc project.

(b) *Inference Rules* Expressions of language that are semantically
entailed syntactically from (a) and/or (b).

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#645474

FromRoss Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com>
Date2026-06-19 22:27 -0700
Message-ID<6Z6dnQrJd8Qguav3nZ2dnZfqnPSdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#645466
On 06/19/2026 04:30 PM, olcott wrote:
> On 6/19/2026 3:28 PM, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
>> [ Followup-To: set ]
>>
>> In comp.theory olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On 6/19/2026 2:23 AM, Mikko wrote:
>>>> On 18/06/2026 22:35, olcott wrote:
>>>>> On 6/17/2026 4:14 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/@rossfinlayson
>>>>>> Making sure to leave out
>>
>>>>>> Proof-theoretic semantics
>>>>>> (an alternative to truth-condition semantics)
>>>>>> https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/proof-theoretic-semantics/
>>
>>
>>
>>>>> Some people only memorize conventional views and
>>>>> reject alternative views out-of-hand without review.
>>
>>>> Whereas you are stuck to your own incoherent views and reject
>>>> alternative views out-of-hand without review.
>>
>>
>>> Calling my views (anchored in proof theoretic semantics)
>>> incoherent merely proves that you are too damned lazy to
>>> look into proof theoretic semantics.
>>> https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/proof-theoretic-semantics/
>>
>> I've spent a couple of hours reading that web page.  It is abstract in
>> the extreme.  One thing is utterly clear: its level of abstraction is
>> well beyond the comprehension capabilities of Peter Olcott, who can't
>> even understand proof by contradiction.
>>
>> That page's level of abstraction is high enough that I can't be bothered
>> to read it any further.  If it actually says anything at all, that
>> something is heavily disguised.  From it's "Conclusion and Outlook"
>> section at the end:
>>
>>    | Standard proof-theoretic semantics has practically exclusively been
>>    | occupied with logical constants. Logical constants play a central
>> role
>>    | in reasoning and inference, but are definitely not the exclusive,
>> and
>>    | perhaps not even the most typical sort of entities that can be
>> defined
>>    | inferentially. A framework is needed that deals with inferential
>>    | definitions in a wider sense and covers both logical and
>> extra-logical
>>    | inferential definitions alike.
>>
>> Does this have any meaning?
>>
>> I put it to everybody here that Peter Olcott has been bluffing.  He has
>> purported to understand Proof-theoretic semantics and repeatedly cited a
>> web page far outside his own understanding, believing nobody else would
>> ever challenge this deception.
>>
>> I'm challenging it now.  Peter, you have repeatedly stated that Gödel's
>> Incompleteness Theorem is unproven when one takes PTS as a basis.  I put
>> it to you this is a lie, and that you are as clueless about PTS as you
>> are about Gödel's Theorem.  Feel free to refute my assertion.
>>
>> Or, at the very least, explain in readily accessible English precisely
>> what is meant above by "logical constants" and how and why "they play a
>> central role in reasoning and inference".  I put it to you you cannot do
>> this.
>>
>
> The field since 2016 has expanded to include what
> logicians would call quantifier free FOL.
>
> I will research this more so that I can explain
> my own ideas within the frame-of-reference of PTS.
>
>

Such reductionisms as "term-free" or "constant-free" or "variable-free"
or "quantifier-free" are simplifications that fail to include
resolutions of the paradoxes of induction, quantification, identity,
infinity, and continuity.

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#645481

Fromolcott <polcott333@gmail.com>
Date2026-06-20 09:20 -0500
Message-ID<11167jt$4i7e$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#645474
On 6/20/2026 12:27 AM, Ross Finlayson wrote:
> On 06/19/2026 04:30 PM, olcott wrote:
>> On 6/19/2026 3:28 PM, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
>>> [ Followup-To: set ]
>>>
>>> In comp.theory olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On 6/19/2026 2:23 AM, Mikko wrote:
>>>>> On 18/06/2026 22:35, olcott wrote:
>>>>>> On 6/17/2026 4:14 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/@rossfinlayson
>>>>>>> Making sure to leave out
>>>
>>>>>>> Proof-theoretic semantics
>>>>>>> (an alternative to truth-condition semantics)
>>>>>>> https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/proof-theoretic-semantics/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>> Some people only memorize conventional views and
>>>>>> reject alternative views out-of-hand without review.
>>>
>>>>> Whereas you are stuck to your own incoherent views and reject
>>>>> alternative views out-of-hand without review.
>>>
>>>
>>>> Calling my views (anchored in proof theoretic semantics)
>>>> incoherent merely proves that you are too damned lazy to
>>>> look into proof theoretic semantics.
>>>> https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/proof-theoretic-semantics/
>>>
>>> I've spent a couple of hours reading that web page.  It is abstract in
>>> the extreme.  One thing is utterly clear: its level of abstraction is
>>> well beyond the comprehension capabilities of Peter Olcott, who can't
>>> even understand proof by contradiction.
>>>
>>> That page's level of abstraction is high enough that I can't be bothered
>>> to read it any further.  If it actually says anything at all, that
>>> something is heavily disguised.  From it's "Conclusion and Outlook"
>>> section at the end:
>>>
>>>    | Standard proof-theoretic semantics has practically exclusively been
>>>    | occupied with logical constants. Logical constants play a central
>>> role
>>>    | in reasoning and inference, but are definitely not the exclusive,
>>> and
>>>    | perhaps not even the most typical sort of entities that can be
>>> defined
>>>    | inferentially. A framework is needed that deals with inferential
>>>    | definitions in a wider sense and covers both logical and
>>> extra-logical
>>>    | inferential definitions alike.
>>>
>>> Does this have any meaning?
>>>
>>> I put it to everybody here that Peter Olcott has been bluffing.  He has
>>> purported to understand Proof-theoretic semantics and repeatedly cited a
>>> web page far outside his own understanding, believing nobody else would
>>> ever challenge this deception.
>>>
>>> I'm challenging it now.  Peter, you have repeatedly stated that Gödel's
>>> Incompleteness Theorem is unproven when one takes PTS as a basis.  I put
>>> it to you this is a lie, and that you are as clueless about PTS as you
>>> are about Gödel's Theorem.  Feel free to refute my assertion.
>>>
>>> Or, at the very least, explain in readily accessible English precisely
>>> what is meant above by "logical constants" and how and why "they play a
>>> central role in reasoning and inference".  I put it to you you cannot do
>>> this.
>>>
>>
>> The field since 2016 has expanded to include what
>> logicians would call quantifier free FOL.
>>
>> I will research this more so that I can explain
>> my own ideas within the frame-of-reference of PTS.
>>
>>
> 
> Such reductionisms as "term-free" or "constant-free" or "variable-free"
> or "quantifier-free" are simplifications that fail to include
> resolutions of the paradoxes of induction, quantification, identity,
> infinity, and continuity.
> 
> 

I take the basic principles of proof theoretic semantics
and extend them to cover
"true on the basis of meaning expressed in language"
Using the CycL language of the Cyc project. I have
the original handbooks that were once published.

-- 
Copyright 2026 Olcott

My 28 year goal has been to make
"true on the basis of meaning expressed in language"
reliably computable for the entire body of knowledge.
The complete structure of this system is now defined.

The entire body of knowledge expressed in language is
comprised of two types of relations between finite strings:
(a) *Axioms* Expressions of language that are stipulated to be true.

My system bridges the analytic/synthetic distinction by
expressly encoding all empirical "atomic facts" in a formal
language such as CycL of the Cyc project.

(b) *Inference Rules* Expressions of language that are semantically
entailed syntactically from (a) and/or (b).

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#645469

Fromolcott <polcott333@gmail.com>
Date2026-06-19 21:35 -0500
Message-ID<1114u9a$3o9p4$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#645461
On 6/19/2026 3:28 PM, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
> [ Followup-To: set ]
> 
> In comp.theory olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 6/19/2026 2:23 AM, Mikko wrote:
>>> On 18/06/2026 22:35, olcott wrote:
>>>> On 6/17/2026 4:14 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/@rossfinlayson
>>>>> Making sure to leave out
> 
>>>>> Proof-theoretic semantics
>>>>> (an alternative to truth-condition semantics)
>>>>> https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/proof-theoretic-semantics/
> 
> 
> 
>>>> Some people only memorize conventional views and
>>>> reject alternative views out-of-hand without review.
> 
>>> Whereas you are stuck to your own incoherent views and reject
>>> alternative views out-of-hand without review.
> 
> 
>> Calling my views (anchored in proof theoretic semantics)
>> incoherent merely proves that you are too damned lazy to
>> look into proof theoretic semantics.
>> https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/proof-theoretic-semantics/
> 
> I've spent a couple of hours reading that web page.  It is abstract in
> the extreme.  One thing is utterly clear: its level of abstraction is
> well beyond the comprehension capabilities of Peter Olcott, who can't
> even understand proof by contradiction.
> 
> That page's level of abstraction is high enough that I can't be bothered
> to read it any further.  If it actually says anything at all, that
> something is heavily disguised.  From it's "Conclusion and Outlook"
> section at the end:
> 
>    | Standard proof-theoretic semantics has practically exclusively been
>    | occupied with logical constants. 

The was the original position:
Ever since 2016 PTS has been anchored in Horn Clauses
thus not limited to logical constants.

-- 
Copyright 2026 Olcott

My 28 year goal has been to make
"true on the basis of meaning expressed in language"
reliably computable for the entire body of knowledge.
The complete structure of this system is now defined.

The entire body of knowledge expressed in language is
comprised of two types of relations between finite strings:
(a) *Axioms* Expressions of language that are stipulated to be true.

My system bridges the analytic/synthetic distinction by
expressly encoding all empirical "atomic facts" in a formal
language such as CycL of the Cyc project.

(b) *Inference Rules* Expressions of language that are semantically
entailed syntactically from (a) and/or (b).

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#645475

FromRoss Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com>
Date2026-06-19 22:27 -0700
Message-ID<6Z6dnQXJd8Rzuav3nZ2dnZfqnPSdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#645469
On 06/19/2026 07:35 PM, olcott wrote:
> On 6/19/2026 3:28 PM, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
>> [ Followup-To: set ]
>>
>> In comp.theory olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On 6/19/2026 2:23 AM, Mikko wrote:
>>>> On 18/06/2026 22:35, olcott wrote:
>>>>> On 6/17/2026 4:14 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/@rossfinlayson
>>>>>> Making sure to leave out
>>
>>>>>> Proof-theoretic semantics
>>>>>> (an alternative to truth-condition semantics)
>>>>>> https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/proof-theoretic-semantics/
>>
>>
>>
>>>>> Some people only memorize conventional views and
>>>>> reject alternative views out-of-hand without review.
>>
>>>> Whereas you are stuck to your own incoherent views and reject
>>>> alternative views out-of-hand without review.
>>
>>
>>> Calling my views (anchored in proof theoretic semantics)
>>> incoherent merely proves that you are too damned lazy to
>>> look into proof theoretic semantics.
>>> https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/proof-theoretic-semantics/
>>
>> I've spent a couple of hours reading that web page.  It is abstract in
>> the extreme.  One thing is utterly clear: its level of abstraction is
>> well beyond the comprehension capabilities of Peter Olcott, who can't
>> even understand proof by contradiction.
>>
>> That page's level of abstraction is high enough that I can't be bothered
>> to read it any further.  If it actually says anything at all, that
>> something is heavily disguised.  From it's "Conclusion and Outlook"
>> section at the end:
>>
>>    | Standard proof-theoretic semantics has practically exclusively been
>>    | occupied with logical constants.
>
> The was the original position:
> Ever since 2016 PTS has been anchored in Horn Clauses
> thus not limited to logical constants.
>

One might aver that Huntington postulates are more relevant than Horn 
clauses.

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#645476

FromRoss Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com>
Date2026-06-19 23:04 -0700
Message-ID<Q9qcnRXjkIcasKv3nZ2dnZfqnPWdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#645475
On 06/19/2026 10:27 PM, Ross Finlayson wrote:
> On 06/19/2026 07:35 PM, olcott wrote:
>> On 6/19/2026 3:28 PM, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
>>> [ Followup-To: set ]
>>>
>>> In comp.theory olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On 6/19/2026 2:23 AM, Mikko wrote:
>>>>> On 18/06/2026 22:35, olcott wrote:
>>>>>> On 6/17/2026 4:14 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/@rossfinlayson
>>>>>>> Making sure to leave out
>>>
>>>>>>> Proof-theoretic semantics
>>>>>>> (an alternative to truth-condition semantics)
>>>>>>> https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/proof-theoretic-semantics/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>> Some people only memorize conventional views and
>>>>>> reject alternative views out-of-hand without review.
>>>
>>>>> Whereas you are stuck to your own incoherent views and reject
>>>>> alternative views out-of-hand without review.
>>>
>>>
>>>> Calling my views (anchored in proof theoretic semantics)
>>>> incoherent merely proves that you are too damned lazy to
>>>> look into proof theoretic semantics.
>>>> https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/proof-theoretic-semantics/
>>>
>>> I've spent a couple of hours reading that web page.  It is abstract in
>>> the extreme.  One thing is utterly clear: its level of abstraction is
>>> well beyond the comprehension capabilities of Peter Olcott, who can't
>>> even understand proof by contradiction.
>>>
>>> That page's level of abstraction is high enough that I can't be bothered
>>> to read it any further.  If it actually says anything at all, that
>>> something is heavily disguised.  From it's "Conclusion and Outlook"
>>> section at the end:
>>>
>>>    | Standard proof-theoretic semantics has practically exclusively been
>>>    | occupied with logical constants.
>>
>> The was the original position:
>> Ever since 2016 PTS has been anchored in Horn Clauses
>> thus not limited to logical constants.
>>
>
> One might aver that Huntington postulates are more relevant than Horn
> clauses.
>
>

Horn clauses are useful idioms to declare or claim inductive completion
about things like completion and compactness and tail recursion what
would otherwise be inductive incompleteness, and thusly are merely
notational, while Huntington postulates include actual accounts of
quantifier disambiguation and the like about induction and
counter-induction and super-classical completions, besides the usual
reading
that Huntington postulates are just a usual logic, which in the usual
accounts of formal logic is merely "quasi-modal" logic, and ignorant
of quantifier disambiguation and other notions of all the implicits.

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#645483

Fromolcott <polcott333@gmail.com>
Date2026-06-20 09:29 -0500
Message-ID<111683r$4nps$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#645476
On 6/20/2026 1:04 AM, Ross Finlayson wrote:
> On 06/19/2026 10:27 PM, Ross Finlayson wrote:
>> On 06/19/2026 07:35 PM, olcott wrote:
>>> On 6/19/2026 3:28 PM, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
>>>> [ Followup-To: set ]
>>>>
>>>> In comp.theory olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 6/19/2026 2:23 AM, Mikko wrote:
>>>>>> On 18/06/2026 22:35, olcott wrote:
>>>>>>> On 6/17/2026 4:14 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/@rossfinlayson
>>>>>>>> Making sure to leave out
>>>>
>>>>>>>> Proof-theoretic semantics
>>>>>>>> (an alternative to truth-condition semantics)
>>>>>>>> https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/proof-theoretic-semantics/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>> Some people only memorize conventional views and
>>>>>>> reject alternative views out-of-hand without review.
>>>>
>>>>>> Whereas you are stuck to your own incoherent views and reject
>>>>>> alternative views out-of-hand without review.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Calling my views (anchored in proof theoretic semantics)
>>>>> incoherent merely proves that you are too damned lazy to
>>>>> look into proof theoretic semantics.
>>>>> https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/proof-theoretic-semantics/
>>>>
>>>> I've spent a couple of hours reading that web page.  It is abstract in
>>>> the extreme.  One thing is utterly clear: its level of abstraction is
>>>> well beyond the comprehension capabilities of Peter Olcott, who can't
>>>> even understand proof by contradiction.
>>>>
>>>> That page's level of abstraction is high enough that I can't be 
>>>> bothered
>>>> to read it any further.  If it actually says anything at all, that
>>>> something is heavily disguised.  From it's "Conclusion and Outlook"
>>>> section at the end:
>>>>
>>>>    | Standard proof-theoretic semantics has practically exclusively 
>>>> been
>>>>    | occupied with logical constants.
>>>
>>> The was the original position:
>>> Ever since 2016 PTS has been anchored in Horn Clauses
>>> thus not limited to logical constants.
>>>
>>
>> One might aver that Huntington postulates are more relevant than Horn
>> clauses.
>>
>>
> 
> Horn clauses are useful idioms to declare or claim inductive completion
> about things like completion and compactness and tail recursion what
> would otherwise be inductive incompleteness, and thusly are merely
> notational, while Huntington postulates include actual accounts of
> quantifier disambiguation and the like about induction and
> counter-induction and super-classical completions, besides the usual
> reading
> that Huntington postulates are just a usual logic, which in the usual
> accounts of formal logic is merely "quasi-modal" logic, and ignorant
> of quantifier disambiguation and other notions of all the implicits.
> 
> 

I referred to Horn Clauses and logical constants
because people here know what those are. They also
know that Prolog is based in Horn Clauses. That
ties this final resolution to the Liar Paradox
tightly to proof theoretic semantics.

% This sentence is not true.
?- LP = not(true(LP)).
LP = not(true(LP)).
?- unify_with_occurs_check(LP, not(true(LP))).
false.

Prolog finally once and for all resolves the
Liar Paradox as semantically incoherent within
the analytical framework of Proof Theoretical
Semantics.

It does this on the basis that the LP specifies a
cycle in the directed graph of its evaluation sequence,
thus not a well founded justification tree.

PTS itself has a jumble of different terms referring
to the idea of a: "well founded justification tree"
This varies author by author with no unified term.


-- 
Copyright 2026 Olcott

My 28 year goal has been to make
"true on the basis of meaning expressed in language"
reliably computable for the entire body of knowledge.
The complete structure of this system is now defined.

The entire body of knowledge expressed in language is
comprised of two types of relations between finite strings:
(a) *Axioms* Expressions of language that are stipulated to be true.

My system bridges the analytic/synthetic distinction by
expressly encoding all empirical "atomic facts" in a formal
language such as CycL of the Cyc project.

(b) *Inference Rules* Expressions of language that are semantically
entailed syntactically from (a) and/or (b).

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#645482

Fromolcott <polcott333@gmail.com>
Date2026-06-20 09:22 -0500
Message-ID<11167n5$4i7e$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to#645475
On 6/20/2026 12:27 AM, Ross Finlayson wrote:
> On 06/19/2026 07:35 PM, olcott wrote:
>> On 6/19/2026 3:28 PM, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
>>> [ Followup-To: set ]
>>>
>>> In comp.theory olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On 6/19/2026 2:23 AM, Mikko wrote:
>>>>> On 18/06/2026 22:35, olcott wrote:
>>>>>> On 6/17/2026 4:14 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/@rossfinlayson
>>>>>>> Making sure to leave out
>>>
>>>>>>> Proof-theoretic semantics
>>>>>>> (an alternative to truth-condition semantics)
>>>>>>> https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/proof-theoretic-semantics/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>> Some people only memorize conventional views and
>>>>>> reject alternative views out-of-hand without review.
>>>
>>>>> Whereas you are stuck to your own incoherent views and reject
>>>>> alternative views out-of-hand without review.
>>>
>>>
>>>> Calling my views (anchored in proof theoretic semantics)
>>>> incoherent merely proves that you are too damned lazy to
>>>> look into proof theoretic semantics.
>>>> https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/proof-theoretic-semantics/
>>>
>>> I've spent a couple of hours reading that web page.  It is abstract in
>>> the extreme.  One thing is utterly clear: its level of abstraction is
>>> well beyond the comprehension capabilities of Peter Olcott, who can't
>>> even understand proof by contradiction.
>>>
>>> That page's level of abstraction is high enough that I can't be bothered
>>> to read it any further.  If it actually says anything at all, that
>>> something is heavily disguised.  From it's "Conclusion and Outlook"
>>> section at the end:
>>>
>>>    | Standard proof-theoretic semantics has practically exclusively been
>>>    | occupied with logical constants.
>>
>> The was the original position:
>> Ever since 2016 PTS has been anchored in Horn Clauses
>> thus not limited to logical constants.
>>
> 
> One might aver that Huntington postulates are more relevant than Horn 
> clauses.
> 
> 

I am just saying where PTS is and it has gone way past
logical constants yet not nearly as far as all knowledge
that can be expressed in CycL formalized natural language.

-- 
Copyright 2026 Olcott

My 28 year goal has been to make
"true on the basis of meaning expressed in language"
reliably computable for the entire body of knowledge.
The complete structure of this system is now defined.

The entire body of knowledge expressed in language is
comprised of two types of relations between finite strings:
(a) *Axioms* Expressions of language that are stipulated to be true.

My system bridges the analytic/synthetic distinction by
expressly encoding all empirical "atomic facts" in a formal
language such as CycL of the Cyc project.

(b) *Inference Rules* Expressions of language that are semantically
entailed syntactically from (a) and/or (b).

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#645470

Fromolcott <polcott333@gmail.com>
Date2026-06-19 21:40 -0500
Message-ID<1114ui9$3obja$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#645461
On 6/19/2026 3:28 PM, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
> [ Followup-To: set ]
> 
> In comp.theory olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 6/19/2026 2:23 AM, Mikko wrote:
>>> On 18/06/2026 22:35, olcott wrote:
>>>> On 6/17/2026 4:14 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/@rossfinlayson
>>>>> Making sure to leave out
> 
>>>>> Proof-theoretic semantics
>>>>> (an alternative to truth-condition semantics)
>>>>> https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/proof-theoretic-semantics/
> 
> 
> 
>>>> Some people only memorize conventional views and
>>>> reject alternative views out-of-hand without review.
> 
>>> Whereas you are stuck to your own incoherent views and reject
>>> alternative views out-of-hand without review.
> 
> 
>> Calling my views (anchored in proof theoretic semantics)
>> incoherent merely proves that you are too damned lazy to
>> look into proof theoretic semantics.
>> https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/proof-theoretic-semantics/
> 
> I've spent a couple of hours reading that web page.  It is abstract in
> the extreme.  One thing is utterly clear: its level of abstraction is
> well beyond the comprehension capabilities of Peter Olcott, who can't
> even understand proof by contradiction.
> 

What superficially looks like contradiction
"This sentence is not true"

Never was an actual contradiction when properly
formalized. The directed graph of its evaluation
always had a cycle.

% This sentence is not true.
?- LP = not(true(LP)).
LP = not(true(LP)).
?- unify_with_occurs_check(LP, not(true(LP))).
false.

Prolog finally once and for all resolves the Liar
Paradox as semantically incoherent within the
analytical framework of Proof Theoretical Semantics.

-- 
Copyright 2026 Olcott

My 28 year goal has been to make
"true on the basis of meaning expressed in language"
reliably computable for the entire body of knowledge.
The complete structure of this system is now defined.

The entire body of knowledge expressed in language is
comprised of two types of relations between finite strings:
(a) *Axioms* Expressions of language that are stipulated to be true.

My system bridges the analytic/synthetic distinction by
expressly encoding all empirical "atomic facts" in a formal
language such as CycL of the Cyc project.

(b) *Inference Rules* Expressions of language that are semantically
entailed syntactically from (a) and/or (b).

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#645478

FromMikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi>
Date2026-06-20 11:05 +0300
Message-ID<1115hl1$3t1gi$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#645470
On 20/06/2026 05:40, olcott wrote:
> On 6/19/2026 3:28 PM, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
>> [ Followup-To: set ]
>>
>> In comp.theory olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On 6/19/2026 2:23 AM, Mikko wrote:
>>>> On 18/06/2026 22:35, olcott wrote:
>>>>> On 6/17/2026 4:14 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/@rossfinlayson
>>>>>> Making sure to leave out
>>
>>>>>> Proof-theoretic semantics
>>>>>> (an alternative to truth-condition semantics)
>>>>>> https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/proof-theoretic-semantics/
>>
>>>>> Some people only memorize conventional views and
>>>>> reject alternative views out-of-hand without review.
>>
>>>> Whereas you are stuck to your own incoherent views and reject
>>>> alternative views out-of-hand without review.
>>
>>
>>> Calling my views (anchored in proof theoretic semantics)
>>> incoherent merely proves that you are too damned lazy to
>>> look into proof theoretic semantics.
>>> https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/proof-theoretic-semantics/
>>
>> I've spent a couple of hours reading that web page.  It is abstract in
>> the extreme.  One thing is utterly clear: its level of abstraction is
>> well beyond the comprehension capabilities of Peter Olcott, who can't
>> even understand proof by contradiction.
> 
> What superficially looks like contradiction
> "This sentence is not true"
> 
> Never was an actual contradiction when properly
> formalized. The directed graph of its evaluation
> always had a cycle.
> 
> % This sentence is not true.
> ?- LP = not(true(LP)).
> LP = not(true(LP)).
> ?- unify_with_occurs_check(LP, not(true(LP))).
> false.
> 
> Prolog finally once and for all resolves the Liar
> Paradox as semantically incoherent within the
> analytical framework of Proof Theoretical Semantics.

That you post this irrelevancy as a response shows that you
don't even know what the expression "proof by contradiction"
means.

What does it mean if a proof ends with something that
superficially looks like a contradiction, e.g. 1 = 2 ?

-- 
Mikko

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#645511

Fromolcott <polcott333@gmail.com>
Date2026-06-20 14:02 -0500
Message-ID<1116o3v$9s97$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#645470
On 6/20/2026 12:40 PM, André G. Isaak wrote:
> On 2026-06-19 20:40, olcott wrote:
>> On 6/19/2026 3:28 PM, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
>>> [ Followup-To: set ]
>>>
>>> In comp.theory olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On 6/19/2026 2:23 AM, Mikko wrote:
>>>>> On 18/06/2026 22:35, olcott wrote:
>>>>>> On 6/17/2026 4:14 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/@rossfinlayson
>>>>>>> Making sure to leave out
>>>
>>>>>>> Proof-theoretic semantics
>>>>>>> (an alternative to truth-condition semantics)
>>>>>>> https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/proof-theoretic-semantics/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>> Some people only memorize conventional views and
>>>>>> reject alternative views out-of-hand without review.
>>>
>>>>> Whereas you are stuck to your own incoherent views and reject
>>>>> alternative views out-of-hand without review.
>>>
>>>
>>>> Calling my views (anchored in proof theoretic semantics)
>>>> incoherent merely proves that you are too damned lazy to
>>>> look into proof theoretic semantics.
>>>> https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/proof-theoretic-semantics/
>>>
>>> I've spent a couple of hours reading that web page.  It is abstract in
>>> the extreme.  One thing is utterly clear: its level of abstraction is
>>> well beyond the comprehension capabilities of Peter Olcott, who can't
>>> even understand proof by contradiction.
>>>
>>
>> What superficially looks like contradiction
>> "This sentence is not true"
> 
> Once again, you're responding to people's posts with irrelevancy.
> 
> The Liar's Paradox has absolutely nothing to do with proof by 
> contradiction. The LP isn't a contradiction; it's a paradox. The two are 
> different things. A contradiction is a statement which is necessarily 
> false. A paradox is a statement to which no truth value can be 
> consistently assigned.
> 
> André
> 

Then I have never spoken of anything where proof by
contradiction applies, thus you have no basis to
assess these skills of mine. For 26 of 28 years I
have only focused on pathological self-reference.

-- 
Copyright 2026 Olcott

My 28 year goal has been to make
"true on the basis of meaning expressed in language"
reliably computable for the entire body of knowledge.
The complete structure of this system is now defined.

The entire body of knowledge expressed in language is
comprised of two types of relations between finite strings:
(a) *Axioms* Expressions of language that are stipulated to be true.

My system bridges the analytic/synthetic distinction by
expressly encoding all empirical "atomic facts" in a formal
language such as CycL of the Cyc project.

(b) *Inference Rules* Expressions of language that are semantically
entailed syntactically from (a) and/or (b).

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