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| From | Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> |
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| Newsgroups | comp.lang.prolog, sci.logic, sci.math |
| Subject | Could AlphaEvolve find the sixth busy beaver ? |
| Date | 2025-11-30 13:36 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <10ghdp5$tg19$1@solani.org> (permalink) |
Cross-posted to 3 groups.
Hi, What we thought: Prediction 5 . It will never be proved that Σ(5) = 4,098 and S(5) = 47,176,870. -- Allen H. Brady, 1990 . How it started: To investigate AlphaEvolve’s breadth, we applied the system to over 50 open problems in mathematical analysis, geometry, combinatorics and number theory. The system’s flexibility enabled us to set up most experiments in a matter of hours. In roughly 75% of cases, it rediscovered state-of-the-art solutions, to the best of our knowledge. https://deepmind.google/blog/alphaevolve-a-gemini-powered-coding-agent-for-designing-advanced-algorithms/ How its going: We prove that S(5) = 47, 176, 870 using the Coq proof assistant. The Busy Beaver value S(n) is the maximum number of steps that an n-state 2-symbol Turing machine can perform from the all-zero tape before halting, and S was historically introduced by Tibor Radó in 1962 as one of the simplest examples of an uncomputable function. The proof enumerates 181,385,789 Turing machines with 5 states and, for each machine, decides whether it halts or not. Our result marks the first determination of a new Busy Beaver value in over 40 years and the first Busy Beaver value ever to be formally verified, attesting to the effectiveness of massively collaborative online research https://arxiv.org/pdf/2509.12337 They claim not having used much AI. But could for example AlphaEvolve do it somehow nevertheless, more or less autonomously, and find the sixth busy beaver? Bye
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Could AlphaEvolve find the sixth busy beaver ? Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-11-30 13:36 +0100
An old Busy Beaver ASIC (Application-Specific Integrated Circuit) (Re: Could AlphaEvolve find the sixth busy beaver ?) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-11-30 13:56 +0100
Re: Could AlphaEvolve find the sixth busy beaver ? Jeff Barnett <jbb@notatt.com> - 2025-12-01 14:29 -0700
Re: Could AlphaEvolve find the sixth busy beaver ? Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-12-02 00:14 +0100
FYI: The Busy Beaver Frontier / Scott Aaronson (Was: Could AlphaEvolve find the sixth busy beaver ?) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-12-02 00:17 +0100
2024 claim of BB(5) (Was: FYI: The Busy Beaver Frontier / Scott Aaronson ) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-12-02 00:22 +0100
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