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| From | "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> |
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| Newsgroups | sci.math |
| Subject | Re: Cantor Diagonal Proof |
| Date | 2025-10-22 12:15 -0700 |
| Organization | A noiseless patient Spider |
| Message-ID | <10dbafm$rh75$1@dont-email.me> (permalink) |
| References | <vsn1fu$1p67k$1@dont-email.me> <10dajcd$j82n$1@dont-email.me> |
On 10/22/2025 5:40 AM, Tristan Wibberley wrote: > The message body is Copyright (C) 2025 Tristan Wibberley except > citations and quotations noted. All Rights Reserved except as noted in > the sig. > > > On 03/04/2025 23:18, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: >> The Cantor diagonal construction is an algorithm for computing an >> incomputable number. > > Doesn't it merely /define/ the number? > > > I'm still unconvinced that he successfully did even that anyway. > > take these descriptions: > > f_0 is the defining sequence of numbers > > g is the sequence of generated "new" numbers, generated as they > say cantor described (I haven't read his work directly) > > f_1 is some choice of numbers > > even(n) and odd(n) are as you'd normally expect > > > then I can provide an f_0: > where f_0(n) = case n of > even(n) -> f_1(n/2) > odd(n) -> g((n-1)/2) > > here, every generated "new" number is eventually included in the list. [...] Fwiw, Cantor Pairing is fun to play around with. A natural number can have a bijection with a unique pair. We can go from natural to pair and from pair back to its natural number. If we plot it, well it sure looks diagonal... :^) Actually, I had some fun with the bijection and made music. An example: Cantor pairing as a bass guitar to create two notes out of a monotonically increasing index starting at zero: https://youtu.be/XkwgJt5bxKI
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Re: Cantor Diagonal Proof Tristan Wibberley <tristan.wibberley+netnews2@alumni.manchester.ac.uk> - 2025-10-22 13:40 +0100
Re: Cantor Diagonal Proof Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-10-22 14:29 +0100
Re: Cantor Diagonal Proof Tristan Wibberley <tristan.wibberley+netnews2@alumni.manchester.ac.uk> - 2025-10-22 16:02 +0100
Re: Cantor Diagonal Proof Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2025-10-22 17:17 +0200
Re: Cantor Diagonal Proof Tristan Wibberley <tristan.wibberley+netnews2@alumni.manchester.ac.uk> - 2025-10-22 17:26 +0100
Re: Cantor Diagonal Proof WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2025-10-23 16:51 +0200
Re: Cantor Diagonal Proof Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2025-10-22 16:19 +0200
Re: Cantor Diagonal Proof Tristan Wibberley <tristan.wibberley+netnews2@alumni.manchester.ac.uk> - 2025-10-22 17:32 +0100
Re: Cantor Diagonal Proof WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2025-10-23 16:56 +0200
Re: Cantor Diagonal Proof: un-_Countable_ or un-_Cartesian_? Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2025-10-23 12:27 -0700
Re: Cantor Diagonal Proof "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-10-22 12:15 -0700
Re: Cantor Diagonal Proof wm <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2025-10-23 16:34 +0200
Re: Cantor Diagonal Proof Tristan Wibberley <tristan.wibberley+netnews2@alumni.manchester.ac.uk> - 2025-10-23 20:43 +0100
Re: Cantor Diagonal Proof WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2025-10-24 22:35 +0200
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