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What about Local AI? [Archimedes Plutonium AI Persona?] (Was: T-theory A-theory theatheory)

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  What about Local AI? [Archimedes Plutonium AI Persona?] (Was: T-theory A-theory theatheory) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-11-11 23:33 +0100
    Re: What about Local AI? [Archimedes Plutonium AI Persona?] (Was: T-theory A-theory theatheory) Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2025-11-11 17:51 -0800
      More Local AI to regain Freedom of Speech (Was: What about Local AI? [Archimedes Plutonium AI Persona?]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-11-12 09:10 +0100
        Re: More Local AI to regain Freedom of Speech (Was: What about Local AI? [Archimedes Plutonium AI Persona?]) Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2025-11-12 10:01 -0800
          Ross Finlayson is completely Paranoid (Was: More Local AI to regain Freedom of Speech) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-11-13 17:38 +0100
            How to make an AI Persona [With Local AI?] (Was: Ross Finlayson is completely Paranoid) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-11-13 17:50 +0100
              Re: How to make an AI Persona [With Local AI?] (Was: Ross Finlayson is completely Paranoid) Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2025-11-13 09:49 -0800
                Re: How to make an AI Persona [With Local AI?] (Was: Ross Finlayson is completely Paranoid) Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2025-11-13 09:51 -0800
                  Re: How to make an AI Persona [With Local AI?] (Was: Ross Finlayson is completely Paranoid) The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-11-13 12:04 -0800

#341918 — What about Local AI? [Archimedes Plutonium AI Persona?] (Was: T-theory A-theory theatheory)

FromMild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm>
Date2025-11-11 23:33 +0100
SubjectWhat about Local AI? [Archimedes Plutonium AI Persona?] (Was: T-theory A-theory theatheory)
Message-ID<10f0dke$5bgk$1@solani.org>
Hi,

Come on old boy, why not try Local AI?
Elaborate your paleo stone throwing theory
with a Local AI (An AI Laptop and AI Models).

Actually I think they should train an AI
model on Archimedes Plutonium. And then
use it as a USENET AI Slob geberator.

An AI Slob generator that will be fed
with the newest news about Trump, Putin,
Math, etc.. in its conext window,

Instructed do give AP style reflections.

LoL

Bye

Ross Finlayson schrieb:
> The status of excluded middle vs. inverse
> The "sufficient and thorough reason" vs. traditional PSR
> The "paleo-classical post-modern" character
> The synthesis of traditions (Pythagorean, Cantorian, etc.)
> The de-fragmentation claim

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#341919

FromRoss Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com>
Date2025-11-11 17:51 -0800
Message-ID<MxadnWFOMJzfdY70nZ2dnZfqn_adnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#341918
On 11/11/2025 02:33 PM, Mild Shock wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Come on old boy, why not try Local AI?
> Elaborate your paleo stone throwing theory
> with a Local AI (An AI Laptop and AI Models).
>
> Actually I think they should train an AI
> model on Archimedes Plutonium. And then
> use it as a USENET AI Slob geberator.
>
> An AI Slob generator that will be fed
> with the newest news about Trump, Putin,
> Math, etc.. in its conext window,
>
> Instructed do give AP style reflections.
>
> LoL
>
> Bye
>
> Ross Finlayson schrieb:
>> The status of excluded middle vs. inverse
>> The "sufficient and thorough reason" vs. traditional PSR
>> The "paleo-classical post-modern" character
>> The synthesis of traditions (Pythagorean, Cantorian, etc.)
>> The de-fragmentation claim

No, I'm sort of working on a deterministic operating
system, employing the re-routine idea of default
asynchrony to make for constant-time/constant-rate
fixed-width/fixed-size inner routines since that the
firmware and bus are so usual and ubiquitous that
writing universal drivers is simplified and that thusly
a suitable host and guest will make for making bygones
the bloatware and ecosystem pollution and intrusion,
while still making for posix the usual source compatibility.


Besides, I like AP, before your sockpuppet goons
tortured him into beration, he really showed how
much insight arrives from brains of a dishwasher.

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#341922 — More Local AI to regain Freedom of Speech (Was: What about Local AI? [Archimedes Plutonium AI Persona?])

FromMild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm>
Date2025-11-12 09:10 +0100
SubjectMore Local AI to regain Freedom of Speech (Was: What about Local AI? [Archimedes Plutonium AI Persona?])
Message-ID<10f1fei$b91n$1@solani.org>
In reply to#341919
Hi,

We should all pursue more local AI to regain
Freedom of Speech. Slap our own AI Slop around
the faces of the fake news media.

Rossy Boy wrote:
 > Besides, I like AP, before your sockpuppet goons
 > tortured him into beration, he really showed how
 > much insight arrives from brains of a dishwasher.

He had two proofs of Rieman Hypothesis, LoL
https://groups.google.com/g/sci.math/c/2m-jqsZYZW8/m/ExLjMoDO9soJ

And quite some amout of Hate for Terrence Tao,
including "cleansing" of mathematicians,
a perfect template for Sabine Hossenfelder:

"It is time the world stops propagandizing science
education by people who are fools of mathematics,
who never engage when it is pointed out they have
many mistakes in their presentation of mathematics
and end up brainwashing students, not teaching
those students.

The Internet, being Freedom of Speech is beyond
the control of corrupt gatekeepers of science
education and even math professors who cannot
tell right from wrong math. And the Internet
caused the huge bankruptcy of many a magazine
and journal.

But there are still too many corrupt math professors
and math journals that still keep teaching Propaganda
Corrupt Mistaken Math. And it is high time those
be cleaned up or cleaned out. For what these
journals and bad math professor teachers do,

is marr, scar and ruin the education of almost
every young person in mathematics they come in
contact with. And makes them become a fool that
Terry Tao has become in mathematics education."
-- AP, 21.08.2021

Ross Finlayson schrieb:
> On 11/11/2025 02:33 PM, Mild Shock wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Come on old boy, why not try Local AI?
>> Elaborate your paleo stone throwing theory
>> with a Local AI (An AI Laptop and AI Models).
>>
>> Actually I think they should train an AI
>> model on Archimedes Plutonium. And then
>> use it as a USENET AI Slob geberator.
>>
>> An AI Slob generator that will be fed
>> with the newest news about Trump, Putin,
>> Math, etc.. in its conext window,
>>
>> Instructed do give AP style reflections.
>>
>> LoL
>>
>> Bye
>>
>> Ross Finlayson schrieb:
>>> The status of excluded middle vs. inverse
>>> The "sufficient and thorough reason" vs. traditional PSR
>>> The "paleo-classical post-modern" character
>>> The synthesis of traditions (Pythagorean, Cantorian, etc.)
>>> The de-fragmentation claim
> 
> No, I'm sort of working on a deterministic operating
> system, employing the re-routine idea of default
> asynchrony to make for constant-time/constant-rate
> fixed-width/fixed-size inner routines since that the
> firmware and bus are so usual and ubiquitous that
> writing universal drivers is simplified and that thusly
> a suitable host and guest will make for making bygones
> the bloatware and ecosystem pollution and intrusion,
> while still making for posix the usual source compatibility.
> 
> 
> Besides, I like AP, before your sockpuppet goons
> tortured him into beration, he really showed how
> much insight arrives from brains of a dishwasher.
> 
> 

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#341927 — Re: More Local AI to regain Freedom of Speech (Was: What about Local AI? [Archimedes Plutonium AI Persona?])

FromRoss Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com>
Date2025-11-12 10:01 -0800
SubjectRe: More Local AI to regain Freedom of Speech (Was: What about Local AI? [Archimedes Plutonium AI Persona?])
Message-ID<J_mcncANRKwFVon0nZ2dnZfqn_SdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#341922
On 11/12/2025 12:10 AM, Mild Shock wrote:
> Hi,
>
> We should all pursue more local AI to regain
> Freedom of Speech. Slap our own AI Slop around
> the faces of the fake news media.
>
> Rossy Boy wrote:
>  > Besides, I like AP, before your sockpuppet goons
>  > tortured him into beration, he really showed how
>  > much insight arrives from brains of a dishwasher.
>
> He had two proofs of Rieman Hypothesis, LoL
> https://groups.google.com/g/sci.math/c/2m-jqsZYZW8/m/ExLjMoDO9soJ
>
> And quite some amout of Hate for Terrence Tao,
> including "cleansing" of mathematicians,
> a perfect template for Sabine Hossenfelder:
>
> "It is time the world stops propagandizing science
> education by people who are fools of mathematics,
> who never engage when it is pointed out they have
> many mistakes in their presentation of mathematics
> and end up brainwashing students, not teaching
> those students.
>
> The Internet, being Freedom of Speech is beyond
> the control of corrupt gatekeepers of science
> education and even math professors who cannot
> tell right from wrong math. And the Internet
> caused the huge bankruptcy of many a magazine
> and journal.
>
> But there are still too many corrupt math professors
> and math journals that still keep teaching Propaganda
> Corrupt Mistaken Math. And it is high time those
> be cleaned up or cleaned out. For what these
> journals and bad math professor teachers do,
>
> is marr, scar and ruin the education of almost
> every young person in mathematics they come in
> contact with. And makes them become a fool that
> Terry Tao has become in mathematics education."
> -- AP, 21.08.2021
>
> Ross Finlayson schrieb:
>> On 11/11/2025 02:33 PM, Mild Shock wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Come on old boy, why not try Local AI?
>>> Elaborate your paleo stone throwing theory
>>> with a Local AI (An AI Laptop and AI Models).
>>>
>>> Actually I think they should train an AI
>>> model on Archimedes Plutonium. And then
>>> use it as a USENET AI Slob geberator.
>>>
>>> An AI Slob generator that will be fed
>>> with the newest news about Trump, Putin,
>>> Math, etc.. in its conext window,
>>>
>>> Instructed do give AP style reflections.
>>>
>>> LoL
>>>
>>> Bye
>>>
>>> Ross Finlayson schrieb:
>>>> The status of excluded middle vs. inverse
>>>> The "sufficient and thorough reason" vs. traditional PSR
>>>> The "paleo-classical post-modern" character
>>>> The synthesis of traditions (Pythagorean, Cantorian, etc.)
>>>> The de-fragmentation claim
>>
>> No, I'm sort of working on a deterministic operating
>> system, employing the re-routine idea of default
>> asynchrony to make for constant-time/constant-rate
>> fixed-width/fixed-size inner routines since that the
>> firmware and bus are so usual and ubiquitous that
>> writing universal drivers is simplified and that thusly
>> a suitable host and guest will make for making bygones
>> the bloatware and ecosystem pollution and intrusion,
>> while still making for posix the usual source compatibility.
>>
>>
>> Besides, I like AP, before your sockpuppet goons
>> tortured him into beration, he really showed how
>> much insight arrives from brains of a dishwasher.
>>
>>
>


Hm. Tao of course is a genius. Once upon a time,
he wrote an article about the "hard" and "soft" in
analysis. I thought this was well-advised, since it
reflects upon that standard analysis has its issues
about the non-linear then the non-standard. So,
reflecting upon the interplay between "constructionism"
and "intuitionism" and that one man's constructionism
is another man's intuitionism when there are merely
_inductive_ impasses between them, then it was
figured that this was a recognition that mathematics
the usual way was going to be insufficient for its
broader enterprise and endeavor.

So, then two aspects of Tao get considered, one is
about Szemeredi's theorems and arithmetic progressions,
and another about the widely collaborative or
the "Lean" days.

So, here there's a usual idea that there are models
of integers and that before there's a standard model
of integers, there are fragments and extensions,
since standard models of integers don't exist in
all models, and there being a standard model of
integers may suffice for a law of large numbers as
a law of small numbers, yet what this is about is
"Erdos' Giant Monster of Independence", since
various number-theoretic conjectures are independent
standard number theory, so, Szmeredi's theorem
is a conjecture in those and either way.

This just isn't accessible to the closed, the invincibly
ignorant, the merely inductive account, that the
"hard" thusly, is also the "fragile" thusly, and furthermore
very simply broken at the outset.

Then, reliance on the collaborative models that bake
in things like material implication and the quasi-modal,
has that things like Erdos' Giant Monster of Independence,
and Falting's Purity Besmirched, has that the systems with
like the class/set distinction erased, and quasi-modal logic,
basically are wrong, yet, sort of thusly hypocritical.

Now, addressing why these are mistakes, takes a sort
of holistic account after a deconstructive account after
a deductive account of the universe of all the objects
of mathematics. Here there at least is one of those.


Or, of course the usual arrivals at independence in
the usual theorem provers still may show contradictions
all around.



Then, since for example there's nothing funny about it,
I'm not interested in your plan of mal-journalism.
Furthermore all your sockpuppets are attached to
your identity.


Here then instead I've rallied all these greatest
(or, widest) mechanical reasoners on demand on what's
basically their own "volition" as it may be on their
own account that there really is a bridge between the
Pythagorean and Cantorian, and mathematics is again "true".



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#341948 — Ross Finlayson is completely Paranoid (Was: More Local AI to regain Freedom of Speech)

FromMild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm>
Date2025-11-13 17:38 +0100
SubjectRoss Finlayson is completely Paranoid (Was: More Local AI to regain Freedom of Speech)
Message-ID<10f51im$dl58$1@solani.org>
In reply to#341927
Hi,

If you take identity as E-mail address, which you
should see with a suitable news reader. I don't
use randomly generated E-mail adresses, or invalid

E-mail address. Its always the same E-mail adress.
At the time of Google+ it was maybe a different E-mail
address to access Google+. So its always the same

"identity". What changes is my nickname sometimes.
But not from post to post, I am not a nickname shapeshifter,
I only change it every decade or so. So you can take

your false accusations, and shove it up your ass.

Fucking paranoid moron you are.

Bye

Ross Finlayson schrieb:
> Then, since for example there's nothing funny about it,
> I'm not interested in your plan of mal-journalism.
> Furthermore all your sockpuppets are attached to
> your identity.

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#341949 — How to make an AI Persona [With Local AI?] (Was: Ross Finlayson is completely Paranoid)

FromMild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm>
Date2025-11-13 17:50 +0100
SubjectHow to make an AI Persona [With Local AI?] (Was: Ross Finlayson is completely Paranoid)
Message-ID<10f528t$dlm6$1@solani.org>
In reply to#341948
Hi,

There are different ways to make an AI Persona.
For example Twitter aka X, has a grok account.
But grok is not trimmed towards a particular

profile, maybe an alter ego of Elon Musk was
speculated. What could be interesting would be
to go towards character.ai :

"Character.ai was established in November 2021.
The company's co-founders, Noam Shazeer and
Daniel de Freitas, were both engineers from
Google. They both worked on AI-related projects:
Shazeer was a lead author on a paper that
Business Insider reported in April 2023 "has
been widely cited as key to today's chatbots",
and Freitas was the lead designer of an
experimental AI at Google initially called Meena,
which later became known as LaMDA.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Character.ai

Maybe this can be even done with Local AI. By for
example populating a context. Or creating a kind
of LangChain memory. ChatGPT calls it persistent context.

So yes you could "spam" an AI Archimedes Plutonium
probably from your desktop with an AI Laptop, maybe
already in 2025, or later in 2026.

bye

Mild Shock schrieb:
> Hi,
> 
> If you take identity as E-mail address, which you
> should see with a suitable news reader. I don't
> use randomly generated E-mail adresses, or invalid
> 
> E-mail address. Its always the same E-mail adress.
> At the time of Google+ it was maybe a different E-mail
> address to access Google+. So its always the same
> 
> "identity". What changes is my nickname sometimes.
> But not from post to post, I am not a nickname shapeshifter,
> I only change it every decade or so. So you can take
> 
> your false accusations, and shove it up your ass.
> 
> Fucking paranoid moron you are.
> 
> Bye
> 
> Ross Finlayson schrieb:
>> Then, since for example there's nothing funny about it,
>> I'm not interested in your plan of mal-journalism.
>> Furthermore all your sockpuppets are attached to
>> your identity.
> 

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#341952 — Re: How to make an AI Persona [With Local AI?] (Was: Ross Finlayson is completely Paranoid)

FromRoss Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com>
Date2025-11-13 09:49 -0800
SubjectRe: How to make an AI Persona [With Local AI?] (Was: Ross Finlayson is completely Paranoid)
Message-ID<Fx-cnT8Hqr-4h4v0nZ2dnZfqnPqdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#341949
On 11/13/2025 08:50 AM, Mild Shock wrote:
> Hi,
>
> There are different ways to make an AI Persona.
> For example Twitter aka X, has a grok account.
> But grok is not trimmed towards a particular
>
> profile, maybe an alter ego of Elon Musk was
> speculated. What could be interesting would be
> to go towards character.ai :
>
> "Character.ai was established in November 2021.
> The company's co-founders, Noam Shazeer and
> Daniel de Freitas, were both engineers from
> Google. They both worked on AI-related projects:
> Shazeer was a lead author on a paper that
> Business Insider reported in April 2023 "has
> been widely cited as key to today's chatbots",
> and Freitas was the lead designer of an
> experimental AI at Google initially called Meena,
> which later became known as LaMDA.
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Character.ai
>
> Maybe this can be even done with Local AI. By for
> example populating a context. Or creating a kind
> of LangChain memory. ChatGPT calls it persistent context.
>
> So yes you could "spam" an AI Archimedes Plutonium
> probably from your desktop with an AI Laptop, maybe
> already in 2025, or later in 2026.
>
> bye
>
> Mild Shock schrieb:
>> Hi,
>>
>> If you take identity as E-mail address, which you
>> should see with a suitable news reader. I don't
>> use randomly generated E-mail adresses, or invalid
>>
>> E-mail address. Its always the same E-mail adress.
>> At the time of Google+ it was maybe a different E-mail
>> address to access Google+. So its always the same
>>
>> "identity". What changes is my nickname sometimes.
>> But not from post to post, I am not a nickname shapeshifter,
>> I only change it every decade or so. So you can take
>>
>> your false accusations, and shove it up your ass.
>>
>> Fucking paranoid moron you are.
>>
>> Bye
>>
>> Ross Finlayson schrieb:
>>> Then, since for example there's nothing funny about it,
>>> I'm not interested in your plan of mal-journalism.
>>> Furthermore all your sockpuppets are attached to
>>> your identity.
>>
>

"Just because you're paranoid /
doesn't mean they aren't out to get you."


Everybody knows that chatty bots have been
on Usenet and IRC and MUDs/MUSHes since
30 and 40 years ago. There were online psychiatrists
since the 60's and Moravec claimed human-level
reasoning brain-in-a-box since the '80s. The
"generative programming" is at least since the '60s,
the 1960's.

Less conceive of "AP the greater" whose outputs
is shelves of algebraic geometry. It doesn't
take much more than "the brains of a dishwasher"
to make a sharty sort of text troll, troll(s).


Thinking about OS design these days, basically
has that the multicore/manycore and now the NUMA
is coming along, and then the sizes like PAGE_SIZE
and this kind of thing, really seem to be making
for something along the lines of memory allocators,
basically to offload that to the processes themselves
for small amounts of memory, so that what would otherwise
look like syscalls to them has they defragment their own
memory, with a usual sort of memory maintenance that
shifts the old generation to the front and blits the
new generation on the back, reducing fragmentation,

Then the usual idea of the re-routine as for modeling
asynchrony, then is for the call-and-return and
the receive-and-send sorts of scope-and-state
then about the interrupts and their handlers,
a few sort of composable scalable machines/units
designed around the bus/wire protocols, that are
ubiquitous, in the modern topologies basically
designed to host so many virts.


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#341953 — Re: How to make an AI Persona [With Local AI?] (Was: Ross Finlayson is completely Paranoid)

FromRoss Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com>
Date2025-11-13 09:51 -0800
SubjectRe: How to make an AI Persona [With Local AI?] (Was: Ross Finlayson is completely Paranoid)
Message-ID<Fx-cnT4Hqr8jh4v0nZ2dnZfqnPqdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#341952
On 11/13/2025 09:49 AM, Ross Finlayson wrote:
> On 11/13/2025 08:50 AM, Mild Shock wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> There are different ways to make an AI Persona.
>> For example Twitter aka X, has a grok account.
>> But grok is not trimmed towards a particular
>>
>> profile, maybe an alter ego of Elon Musk was
>> speculated. What could be interesting would be
>> to go towards character.ai :
>>
>> "Character.ai was established in November 2021.
>> The company's co-founders, Noam Shazeer and
>> Daniel de Freitas, were both engineers from
>> Google. They both worked on AI-related projects:
>> Shazeer was a lead author on a paper that
>> Business Insider reported in April 2023 "has
>> been widely cited as key to today's chatbots",
>> and Freitas was the lead designer of an
>> experimental AI at Google initially called Meena,
>> which later became known as LaMDA.
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Character.ai
>>
>> Maybe this can be even done with Local AI. By for
>> example populating a context. Or creating a kind
>> of LangChain memory. ChatGPT calls it persistent context.
>>
>> So yes you could "spam" an AI Archimedes Plutonium
>> probably from your desktop with an AI Laptop, maybe
>> already in 2025, or later in 2026.
>>
>> bye
>>
>> Mild Shock schrieb:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> If you take identity as E-mail address, which you
>>> should see with a suitable news reader. I don't
>>> use randomly generated E-mail adresses, or invalid
>>>
>>> E-mail address. Its always the same E-mail adress.
>>> At the time of Google+ it was maybe a different E-mail
>>> address to access Google+. So its always the same
>>>
>>> "identity". What changes is my nickname sometimes.
>>> But not from post to post, I am not a nickname shapeshifter,
>>> I only change it every decade or so. So you can take
>>>
>>> your false accusations, and shove it up your ass.
>>>
>>> Fucking paranoid moron you are.
>>>
>>> Bye
>>>
>>> Ross Finlayson schrieb:
>>>> Then, since for example there's nothing funny about it,
>>>> I'm not interested in your plan of mal-journalism.
>>>> Furthermore all your sockpuppets are attached to
>>>> your identity.
>>>
>>
>
> "Just because you're paranoid /
> doesn't mean they aren't out to get you."
>
>
> Everybody knows that chatty bots have been
> on Usenet and IRC and MUDs/MUSHes since
> 30 and 40 years ago. There were online psychiatrists
> since the 60's and Moravec claimed human-level
> reasoning brain-in-a-box since the '80s. The
> "generative programming" is at least since the '60s,
> the 1960's.
>
> Less conceive of "AP the greater" whose outputs
> is shelves of algebraic geometry. It doesn't
> take much more than "the brains of a dishwasher"
> to make a sharty sort of text troll, troll(s).
>
>
> Thinking about OS design these days, basically
> has that the multicore/manycore and now the NUMA
> is coming along, and then the sizes like PAGE_SIZE
> and this kind of thing, really seem to be making
> for something along the lines of memory allocators,
> basically to offload that to the processes themselves
> for small amounts of memory, so that what would otherwise
> look like syscalls to them has they defragment their own
> memory, with a usual sort of memory maintenance that
> shifts the old generation to the front and blits the
> new generation on the back, reducing fragmentation,
>
> Then the usual idea of the re-routine as for modeling
> asynchrony, then is for the call-and-return and
> the receive-and-send sorts of scope-and-state
> then about the interrupts and their handlers,
> a few sort of composable scalable machines/units
> designed around the bus/wire protocols, that are
> ubiquitous, in the modern topologies basically
> designed to host so many virts.
>
>
>

Of course probably the most widely-deployed variety
of chatty bots is the "dead Internet" bit, that
most all the "Instant Audience" traffic that
defrauded so many advertisers and damaged so
many viewers with the "astroturfing" I suppose
it was called, "fake grassroots", is no secret.

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#341958 — Re: How to make an AI Persona [With Local AI?] (Was: Ross Finlayson is completely Paranoid)

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2025-11-13 12:04 -0800
SubjectRe: How to make an AI Persona [With Local AI?] (Was: Ross Finlayson is completely Paranoid)
Message-ID<b8echk16u8q3dj2cvgpvb2kgm30mceiq2a@4ax.com>
In reply to#341953
On Thu, 13 Nov 2025 09:51:57 -0800, Ross Finlayson
<ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> wrote:

>On 11/13/2025 09:49 AM, Ross Finlayson wrote:
>> On 11/13/2025 08:50 AM, Mild Shock wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> There are different ways to make an AI Persona.
>>> For example Twitter aka X, has a grok account.
>>> But grok is not trimmed towards a particular
>>>
>>> profile, maybe an alter ego of Elon Musk was
>>> speculated. What could be interesting would be
>>> to go towards character.ai :
>>>
>>> "Character.ai was established in November 2021.
>>> The company's co-founders, Noam Shazeer and
>>> Daniel de Freitas, were both engineers from
>>> Google. They both worked on AI-related projects:
>>> Shazeer was a lead author on a paper that
>>> Business Insider reported in April 2023 "has
>>> been widely cited as key to today's chatbots",
>>> and Freitas was the lead designer of an
>>> experimental AI at Google initially called Meena,
>>> which later became known as LaMDA.
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Character.ai
>>>
>>> Maybe this can be even done with Local AI. By for
>>> example populating a context. Or creating a kind
>>> of LangChain memory. ChatGPT calls it persistent context.
>>>
>>> So yes you could "spam" an AI Archimedes Plutonium
>>> probably from your desktop with an AI Laptop, maybe
>>> already in 2025, or later in 2026.
>>>
>>> bye
>>>
>>> Mild Shock schrieb:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> If you take identity as E-mail address, which you
>>>> should see with a suitable news reader. I don't
>>>> use randomly generated E-mail adresses, or invalid
>>>>
>>>> E-mail address. Its always the same E-mail adress.
>>>> At the time of Google+ it was maybe a different E-mail
>>>> address to access Google+. So its always the same
>>>>
>>>> "identity". What changes is my nickname sometimes.
>>>> But not from post to post, I am not a nickname shapeshifter,
>>>> I only change it every decade or so. So you can take
>>>>
>>>> your false accusations, and shove it up your ass.
>>>>
>>>> Fucking paranoid moron you are.
>>>>
>>>> Bye
>>>>
>>>> Ross Finlayson schrieb:
>>>>> Then, since for example there's nothing funny about it,
>>>>> I'm not interested in your plan of mal-journalism.
>>>>> Furthermore all your sockpuppets are attached to
>>>>> your identity.
>>>>
>>>
>>
>> "Just because you're paranoid /
>> doesn't mean they aren't out to get you."
>>
>>
>> Everybody knows that chatty bots have been
>> on Usenet and IRC and MUDs/MUSHes since
>> 30 and 40 years ago. There were online psychiatrists
>> since the 60's and Moravec claimed human-level
>> reasoning brain-in-a-box since the '80s. The
>> "generative programming" is at least since the '60s,
>> the 1960's.
>>
>> Less conceive of "AP the greater" whose outputs
>> is shelves of algebraic geometry. It doesn't
>> take much more than "the brains of a dishwasher"
>> to make a sharty sort of text troll, troll(s).
>>
>>
>> Thinking about OS design these days, basically
>> has that the multicore/manycore and now the NUMA
>> is coming along, and then the sizes like PAGE_SIZE
>> and this kind of thing, really seem to be making
>> for something along the lines of memory allocators,
>> basically to offload that to the processes themselves
>> for small amounts of memory, so that what would otherwise
>> look like syscalls to them has they defragment their own
>> memory, with a usual sort of memory maintenance that
>> shifts the old generation to the front and blits the
>> new generation on the back, reducing fragmentation,
>>
>> Then the usual idea of the re-routine as for modeling
>> asynchrony, then is for the call-and-return and
>> the receive-and-send sorts of scope-and-state
>> then about the interrupts and their handlers,
>> a few sort of composable scalable machines/units
>> designed around the bus/wire protocols, that are
>> ubiquitous, in the modern topologies basically
>> designed to host so many virts.
>>
>>
>>
>
>Of course probably the most widely-deployed variety
>of chatty bots is the "dead Internet" bit, that
>most all the "Instant Audience" traffic that
>defrauded so many advertisers and damaged so
>many viewers with the "astroturfing" I suppose
>it was called, "fake grassroots", is no secret.
>



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