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| From | Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.theory, sci.logic |
| Subject | Re: D correctly simulated by H proved for THREE YEARS --- losing a defamation case |
| Date | 2024-06-09 22:16 -0400 |
| Organization | i2pn2 (i2pn.org) |
| Message-ID | <v45nlg$3h641$5@i2pn2.org> (permalink) |
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Cross-posted to 2 groups.
On 6/9/24 9:48 PM, olcott wrote:
> On 6/9/2024 8:36 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>> On 6/9/24 9:23 PM, olcott wrote:
>>> On 6/9/2024 8:10 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>> On 6/9/24 8:56 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>>> On 6/9/2024 7:41 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>>>> On 6/9/24 8:26 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>>>>> On 6/9/2024 7:23 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 6/9/24 8:02 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 6/9/2024 2:13 PM, joes wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Am Sun, 09 Jun 2024 13:23:04 -0500 schrieb olcott:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/9/2024 12:59 PM, joes wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Am Sun, 09 Jun 2024 11:07:19 -0500 schrieb olcott:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> typedef void (*ptr)(); // pointer to void function 01
>>>>>>>>>>>>> void HHH(ptr
>>>>>>>>>>>>> P, ptr I)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 02 {
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 03 P(I);
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 04 return;
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 05 }
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 06 07 void DDD(int (*x)())
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 08 {
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 09 HHH(x, x);
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 10 return;
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 11 }
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 12 13 int main()
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 14 {
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 15 HHH(DDD,DDD);
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 16 }
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 17
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> In the above Neither DDD nor HHH ever reach their own
>>>>>>>>>>>>> return statement
>>>>>>>>>>>>> thus never halt.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Most of my reviewers incorrectly believe that when
>>>>>>>>>>>>> HH(DD,DD) aborts
>>>>>>>>>>>>> its simulated input that this simulated input halts.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> You chopped out the mandatory prerequisite.
>>>>>>>>>>> Please go back and prove that you understand what infinite
>>>>>>>>>>> recursion is
>>>>>>>>>>> before proceeding.
>>>>>>>>>> Dude, I've got nothing to prove to you.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> OK then we are done talking.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You instead could explain how you
>>>>>>>>>> can call a simulation that differs from the direct execution
>>>>>>>>>> "correct".
>>>>>>>>>> Or why H and HH are different.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I could but you refuse to go through the steps of the proof,
>>>>>>>>> one-at-a-time with mutual agreement at each step.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I am not going to tolerate circular head games that never
>>>>>>>>> result in any mutual agreement.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I.E. Someone else is calling you out on your incorrect logic, so
>>>>>>>> you are threatening to take your ball and go home.,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We must go through the steps one-at-a-time and have mutual agreement
>>>>>>> on each step to eliminate miscommunication intentional or otherwise.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So, when someone questions what you mean by something, you need to
>>>>>> clearify the meaning of it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> When someone "questions what you mean by something"
>>>>> by calling me a liar they may go to actual Hell.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I only call you after you repeat the same basic lie several times
>>>> after being corrected.
>>>>
>>>> That is a valid definition of a Liar, and you fit.
>>>>
>>>
>>> THIS IS AN OFFICIAL CEASE AND DESIST NOTIFICATION.
>>> STOP CALLING ME A LIAR.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Then stop Lying!
>>
>
> *I never have lied and you know it*
Another Lie. (Read the message you trimed)
> *THAT YOU REFUSE TO EVEN POINT OUT ANY 100% SPECIFIC MISTAKE*
Another Lie. (Read the messsage you trimed)
> *AND PERSIST IN CALLING ME A LIAR AFTER A CEASE-AND-DESIST ORDER*
> *WINS DEFAMATION CASES*
Nope, since my words are correct, you have no case.
Do you REALLY want to have to testify on the stand before a jury of
"normal" people and try to explain your idea to them and convince tem
that you are telling the truth.
Think you could stand the counter claims?
>
> *I have proved that D is correctly simulated by H FOR THREE YEARS*
Nope, Never *PROVEN*
And not by the right defintion of "Correctly SImulated" to claim
not-halting.
> *I have proved that D is correctly simulated by H FOR THREE YEARS*
> *I have proved that D is correctly simulated by H FOR THREE YEARS*
>
> That D is correctly simulated by H is proved by the fact that
> the x86 source-code of D exactly matches the two execution
> traces that I provided. *It is much easier to see in Google Groups*
Nope, remember, you still havn't correctly simulated the call H
instruction, and have instructions listed that were never actual gotten
to again.
>
> On 5/29/2021 2:26 PM, olcott wrote:
> [Would the simulation of D be infinitely nested unless simulating
> partial halt decider H terminated its simulation of D?]
> https://groups.google.com/g/comp.theory/c/dTvIY5NX6b4/m/cHR2ZPgPBAAJ
>
Which is strawman question, which is just another form of deception.
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Simplified proof that DDD correctly simulated by HHH does not halt olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-09 09:19 -0500
Re: Simplified proof that DDD correctly simulated by HHH does not halt olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-09 11:07 -0500
D correctly simulated by H proved for THREE YEARS --- losing a defamation case olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-09 20:48 -0500
Re: D correctly simulated by H proved for THREE YEARS --- losing a defamation case Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-06-09 22:16 -0400
Re: D correctly simulated by H proved for THREE YEARS --- losing a defamation case olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-09 21:39 -0500
Re: D correctly simulated by H proved for THREE YEARS --- losing a defamation case Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-06-09 22:45 -0400
Re: D correctly simulated by H proved for THREE YEARS --- losing a defamation case olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-09 21:53 -0500
Re: D correctly simulated by H proved for THREE YEARS --- losing a defamation case Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-06-09 23:09 -0400
Re: D correctly simulated by H proved for THREE YEARS --- losing a defamation case olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-09 22:21 -0500
Re: D correctly simulated by H proved for THREE YEARS --- losing a defamation case Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-06-10 07:16 -0400
Re: D correctly simulated by H proved for THREE YEARS --- losing a defamation case Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de> - 2024-06-10 08:35 +0000
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