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Bloomsday (16 June)

Started byRoss Clark <benlizro@ihug.co.nz>
First post2024-06-16 11:56 +1200
Last post2024-06-17 23:28 +0200
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  Bloomsday (16 June) Ross Clark <benlizro@ihug.co.nz> - 2024-06-16 11:56 +1200
    Re: Bloomsday (16 June) HenHanna <HenHanna@devnull.tb> - 2024-06-15 17:49 -0700
      Re: Bloomsday (16 June) Ross Clark <benlizro@ihug.co.nz> - 2024-06-17 09:27 +1200
        Re: Bloomsday (16 June) Athel Cornish-Bowden <me@yahoo.com> - 2024-06-17 21:01 +0200
      Re: Bloomsday (16 June) "HenHanna" <HenHanna@Posting.from.CsiPh> - 2026-05-30 16:56 +0000
    Re: Bloomsday (16 June) Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> - 2024-06-16 19:22 +0100
    Re: Bloomsday (16 June) wugi <wugi@brol.invalid> - 2024-06-17 23:28 +0200

#305375 — Bloomsday (16 June)

FromRoss Clark <benlizro@ihug.co.nz>
Date2024-06-16 11:56 +1200
SubjectBloomsday (16 June)
Message-ID<v4l9mr$3mnvm$1@dont-email.me>
"This day celebrates the life and writing of Irish author James Joyce 
(1882-1941), chiefly be retracing the route through Dublin taken by 
Leonard* Bloom, the central character in _Ulysses_....the action of the 
novel takes place entirely on a single day: 16 June 1904, which was also 
the day Joyce first went out with Nora Barnacle, whom he later married."

*That's _Leopold_ Bloom! Two gaffes in two days! This book needed an editor.

Bloomsday is a real thing. A few years ago I went to a Bloomsday 
celebration at a local "Irish pub" called the Dogs Bollix. Some 
professional readings, some amateur singings, and lots of drinkings. 
Good fun.

When I briefly visited Pula, Croatia (at the southern tip of Istria) in 
2009, I was surprised to see a life-size image* of JJ, seated at a table 
outside a local cafe. I knew he had lived in Trieste (which is not far 
away); but before that, for a few months 1904-5, he had a job in Pula 
(then called Pola), teaching English at the Berlitz School, mainly to 
Austro-Hungarian naval officers.

*I wanted to say "statue", but is it a statue if it's sitting? Sitting 
on a horse, OK, but sitting at a table, drinking coffee?

"While he was in Pola he organised the local printing of his broadsheet 
The Holy Office, which satirised both William Butler Yeats and George 
William Russell,"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Joyce
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pula

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#305379

FromHenHanna <HenHanna@devnull.tb>
Date2024-06-15 17:49 -0700
Message-ID<v4lcqa$3mt2j$5@dont-email.me>
In reply to#305375
On 6/15/2024 4:56 PM, Ross Clark wrote:
> "This day celebrates the life and writing of Irish author James Joyce 
> (1882-1941), chiefly be(by) retracing the route through Dublin taken by 
> Leonard* Bloom, the central character in _Ulysses_....the action of the 
> novel takes place entirely on a single day: 16 June 1904, which was also 
> the day Joyce first went out with Nora Barnacle, whom he later married."
> 
> *That's _Leopold_ Bloom! Two gaffes in two days! This book needed an 
> editor.
> 
> Bloomsday is a real thing. A few years ago I went to a Bloomsday 
> celebration at a local "Irish pub" called the Dogs Bollix. Some 
> professional readings, some amateur singings, and lots of drinkings. 
> Good fun.
> 
> When I briefly visited Pula, Croatia (at the southern tip of Istria) in 
> 2009, I was surprised to see a life-size image* of JJ, seated at a table 
> outside a local cafe. I knew he had lived in Trieste (which is not far 
> away); but before that, for a few months 1904-5, he had a job in Pula 
> (then called Pola), teaching English at the Berlitz School, mainly to 
> Austro-Hungarian naval officers.


there is a pub (with Blue Tiles) that Joyce frequented in Trieste  ?


> 
> *I wanted to say "statue", but is it a statue if it's sitting? Sitting 
> on a horse, OK, but sitting at a table, drinking coffee?
> 
> "While he was in Pola he organised the local printing of his broadsheet 
> The Holy Office, which satirised both William Butler Yeats and George 
> William Russell,"
> 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Joyce
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pula


one theory (or story) is that...  on their first date...
                        Nora went down on Jim... made him really happy.

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#305409

FromRoss Clark <benlizro@ihug.co.nz>
Date2024-06-17 09:27 +1200
Message-ID<v4nlbf$80f4$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#305379
On 16/06/2024 12:49 p.m., HenHanna wrote:
> 
> On 6/15/2024 4:56 PM, Ross Clark wrote:
>> "This day celebrates the life and writing of Irish author James Joyce 
>> (1882-1941), chiefly be(by) retracing the route through Dublin taken 
>> by Leonard* Bloom, the central character in _Ulysses_....the action of 
>> the novel takes place entirely on a single day: 16 June 1904, which 
>> was also the day Joyce first went out with Nora Barnacle, whom he 
>> later married."
>>
>> *That's _Leopold_ Bloom! Two gaffes in two days! This book needed an 
>> editor.
>>
>> Bloomsday is a real thing. A few years ago I went to a Bloomsday 
>> celebration at a local "Irish pub" called the Dogs Bollix. Some 
>> professional readings, some amateur singings, and lots of drinkings. 
>> Good fun.
>>
>> When I briefly visited Pula, Croatia (at the southern tip of Istria) 
>> in 2009, I was surprised to see a life-size image* of JJ, seated at a 
>> table outside a local cafe. I knew he had lived in Trieste (which is 
>> not far away); but before that, for a few months 1904-5, he had a job 
>> in Pula (then called Pola), teaching English at the Berlitz School, 
>> mainly to Austro-Hungarian naval officers.
> 
> 
> there is a pub (with Blue Tiles) that Joyce frequented in Trieste  ?

Could well be. We were only in Trieste for a couple of hours, and 
weren't looking for a pub or for Joyceana. I seem to remember a bookshop 
named after him right at the railway station, but it doesn't seem to be 
there any more.

>> *I wanted to say "statue", but is it a statue if it's sitting? Sitting 
>> on a horse, OK, but sitting at a table, drinking coffee?
>>
>> "While he was in Pola he organised the local printing of his 
>> broadsheet The Holy Office, which satirised both William Butler Yeats 
>> and George William Russell,"
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Joyce
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pula
> 
> 
> one theory (or story) is that...  on their first date...
>                         Nora went down on Jim... made him really happy.
> 

I thought it was a hand job.

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#305418

FromAthel Cornish-Bowden <me@yahoo.com>
Date2024-06-17 21:01 +0200
Message-ID<ldbffkFquusU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#305409
On 2024-06-16 21:27:05 +0000, Ross Clark said:

> On 16/06/2024 12:49 p.m., HenHanna wrote:
>> 
>> On 6/15/2024 4:56 PM, Ross Clark wrote:
>>> "This day celebrates the life and writing of Irish author James Joyce 
>>> (1882-1941), chiefly be(by) retracing the route through Dublin taken by 
>>> Leonard* Bloom, the central character in _Ulysses_....the action of the 
>>> novel takes place entirely on a single day: 16 June 1904, which was 
>>> also the day Joyce first went out with Nora Barnacle, whom he later 
>>> married."
>>> 
>>> *That's _Leopold_ Bloom! Two gaffes in two days! This book needed an editor.
>>> 
>>> Bloomsday is a real thing. A few years ago I went to a Bloomsday 
>>> celebration at a local "Irish pub" called the Dogs Bollix. Some 
>>> professional readings, some amateur singings, and lots of drinkings. 
>>> Good fun.
>>> 
>>> When I briefly visited Pula, Croatia (at the southern tip of Istria) in 
>>> 2009, I was surprised to see a life-size image* of JJ, seated at a 
>>> table outside a local cafe. I knew he had lived in Trieste (which is 
>>> not far away); but before that, for a few months 1904-5, he had a job 
>>> in Pula (then called Pola), teaching English at the Berlitz School, 
>>> mainly to Austro-Hungarian naval officers.
>> 
>> 
>> there is a pub (with Blue Tiles) that Joyce frequented in Trieste  ?
> 
> Could well be. We were only in Trieste for a couple of hours, and 
> weren't looking for a pub or for Joyceana. I seem to remember a 
> bookshop named after him right at the railway station, but it doesn't 
> seem to be there any more.

Trieste (or Trst, as the Slovenes call it) was, in 1964, the site of my 
shortest ever wait for a lift when hitchhiking. The first car that 
arrived stopped and picked me up. I was on my way from Ljubljana to 
Milan. I didn't discuss Joyce with the driver.
> 
>>> *I wanted to say "statue", but is it a statue if it's sitting? Sitting 
>>> on a horse, OK, but sitting at a table, drinking coffee?
>>> 
>>> "While he was in Pola he organised the local printing of his broadsheet 
>>> The Holy Office, which satirised both William Butler Yeats and George 
>>> William Russell,"
>>> 
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Joyce
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pula
>> 
>> 
>> one theory (or story) is that...  on their first date...
>>                        Nora went down on Jim... made him really happy.
>> 
> 
> I thought it was a hand job.


-- 
Athel -- French and British, living in Marseilles for 37 years; mainly 
in England until 1987.

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#308498

From"HenHanna" <HenHanna@Posting.from.CsiPh>
Date2026-05-30 16:56 +0000
Message-ID<6a1b16d4.8cd5aa9148a23ec4@csiph.com>
In reply to#305379

        [Say - Yes]


"Une Slave valse nue"


"Sei fein, nie fies"




Bloom has three letters from Martha “in reversed alphabetic
boustrophedonic punctated quadrilinear cryptogram (vowels
suppressed) N. IGS./WI. UU. OX/W. OKS. MH/Y.IM” (U 17.1774,
U 17.1774, U 1799-1801). 



https://ulyssescompanion.com/

https://ulyssescompanion.com/telemachus-calypso-mirror-chapters




HenHanna <HenHanna@devnull.tb> wrote:
> 
> On 6/15/2024 4:56 PM, Ross Clark wrote:
> > "This day celebrates the life and writing of Irish author James Joyce 
> > (1882-1941), chiefly be(by) retracing the route through Dublin taken by 
> > Leonard* Bloom, the central character in _Ulysses_....the action of the 
> > novel takes place entirely on a single day: 16 June 1904, which was also 
> > the day Joyce first went out with Nora Barnacle, whom he later married."
> > 
> > *That's _Leopold_ Bloom! Two gaffes in two days! This book needed an 
> > editor.
> > 
> > Bloomsday is a real thing. A few years ago I went to a Bloomsday 
> > celebration at a local "Irish pub" called the Dogs Bollix. Some 
> > professional readings, some amateur singings, and lots of drinkings. 
> > Good fun.
> > 
> > When I briefly visited Pula, Croatia (at the southern tip of Istria) in 
> > 2009, I was surprised to see a life-size image* of JJ, seated at a table 
> > outside a local cafe. I knew he had lived in Trieste (which is not far 
> > away); but before that, for a few months 1904-5, he had a job in Pula 
> > (then called Pola), teaching English at the Berlitz School, mainly to 
> > Austro-Hungarian naval officers.
> 

 
 there is a pub (with Blue Tiles) that Joyce frequented in Trieste  ?

 
> 
> > 
> > *I wanted to say "statue", but is it a statue if it's sitting? Sitting 
> > on a horse, OK, but sitting at a table, drinking coffee?
> > 
> > "While he was in Pola he organised the local printing of his broadsheet 
> > The Holy Office, which satirised both William Butler Yeats and George 
> > William Russell,"
> > 
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Joyce
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pula
> 
> 



> one theory (or story) is that...  on their first date...
>                         Nora went down on Jim... made him really happy.

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#305405

FromAidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net>
Date2024-06-16 19:22 +0100
Message-ID<87cyogd9xh.fsf@parhasard.net>
In reply to#305375
 Ar an séú lá déag de mí Meitheamh, scríobh Ross Clark: 

 > "This day celebrates the life and writing of Irish author James Joyce
 > (1882-1941), chiefly be retracing the route through Dublin taken by Leonard*
 > Bloom, the central character in _Ulysses_....the action of the novel takes
 > place entirely on a single day: 16 June 1904, which was also the day Joyce
 > first went out with Nora Barnacle, whom he later married."
 > 
 > *That's _Leopold_ Bloom! Two gaffes in two days! This book needed an editor.
 > 
 > Bloomsday is a real thing. A few years ago I went to a Bloomsday celebration at
 > a local "Irish pub" called the Dogs Bollix. Some professional readings, some
 > amateur singings, and lots of drinkings. Good fun.

It gets lots of attention in the Irish Times (among other local media),
probably disproportionate to the level of activity in Dublin. But yes, a real
thing. 

 > When I briefly visited Pula, Croatia (at the southern tip of Istria) in 2009, I
 > was surprised to see a life-size image* of JJ, seated at a table outside a
 > local cafe. I knew he had lived in Trieste (which is not far away); but before
 > that, for a few months 1904-5, he had a job in Pula (then called Pola),
 > teaching English at the Berlitz School, mainly to Austro-Hungarian naval
 > officers.

My generation did a lot of TEFL, less so Joyce’s. Great option if you studied
something not particularly marketable beziehungsweise graduated with a degree
in CS in the Dot Com Bust.

 > *I wanted to say "statue", but is it a statue if it's sitting? Sitting on a
 > horse, OK, but sitting at a table, drinking coffee?
 > 
 > "While he was in Pola he organised the local printing of his broadsheet The
 > Holy Office, which satirised both William Butler Yeats and George William
 > Russell,"
 > 
 > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Joyce
 > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pula

-- 
‘As I sat looking up at the Guinness ad, I could never figure out /
How your man stayed up on the surfboard after fourteen pints of stout’
(C. Moore)

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#305420

Fromwugi <wugi@brol.invalid>
Date2024-06-17 23:28 +0200
Message-ID<v4q9po$ub12$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#305375
Op 16/06/2024 om 1:56 schreef Ross Clark:
> "This day celebrates the life and writing of Irish author James Joyce 
> (1882-1941), chiefly be retracing the route through Dublin taken by 
> Leonard* Bloom, the central character in _Ulysses_....the action of the 
> novel takes place entirely on a single day: 16 June 1904, which was also 
> the day Joyce first went out with Nora Barnacle, whom he later married."
> 
> *That's _Leopold_ Bloom! Two gaffes in two days! This book needed an 
> editor.
> 
> Bloomsday is a real thing. A few years ago I went to a Bloomsday 
> celebration at a local "Irish pub" called the Dogs Bollix. Some 
> professional readings, some amateur singings, and lots of drinkings. 
> Good fun.
> 
> When I briefly visited Pula, Croatia (at the southern tip of Istria) in 
> 2009, I was surprised to see a life-size image* of JJ, seated at a table 
> outside a local cafe. I knew he had lived in Trieste (which is not far 
> away); but before that, for a few months 1904-5, he had a job in Pula 
> (then called Pola), teaching English at the Berlitz School, mainly to 
> Austro-Hungarian naval officers.
> 
> *I wanted to say "statue", but is it a statue if it's sitting? Sitting 
> on a horse, OK, but sitting at a table, drinking coffee?
> 
> "While he was in Pola he organised the local printing of his broadsheet 
> The Holy Office, which satirised both William Butler Yeats and George 
> William Russell,"
> 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Joyce
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pula

I haven't read JJ nor am planning to any soon, but a few years ago I 
bought the "Ruta Joyce" of Zapico and enjoyed it a lot, learning a few 
things at the same time. It's even a nicer than his Joyce bio*graphic* 
novel itself, Dublinés (more polished in drawing and type-setting, but 
less exhilarating). Both recommendable anyway.

https://www.astiberri.com/products/la-ruta-joyce
https://www.astiberri.com/products/dublines
https://www.estudiosirlandeses.org/2014/02/making-james-joyces-life-into-a-graphic-novel-an-interview-with-alfonso-zapico/ 


-- 
guido wugi

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