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Re: ICC profile for a light box

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On 7/30/2018 10:07 PM, Savageduck wrote:
> On Jul 30, 2018, dale wrote
> (in article <bfl4oa.9ei.19.3@news.alt.net>):
> 
>> On 7/30/2018 8:33 PM, Savageduck wrote:
>>> On Jul 30, 2018, Savageduck wrote
>>> (in article<0001HW.210FE5460028FC0270000C8932CF@news.giganews.com>):
>>>
>>>> On Jul 30, 2018, dale wrote
>>>> (in article <bfkter.30v.19.1@news.alt.net>):
>>>>
>>>>> On 7/25/2018 7:38 AM, nospam wrote:
>>>>>> In article<bf67c8.j34.17.1@news.alt.net>, dale<dale@dalekelly.org>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I was wondering if there is a software/instrument to make a profile for
>>>>>>> a viewing environment like a light box.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> there is.
>>>>>
>>>>> does Adobe "Light Room" do it? A Light room is a viewing environment ...
>>>>
>>>> Lightroom is not a “viewing environment”, your “viewing
>>>> environment”
>>>> is the room with whatever lighting is being used in that room, together
>>>> with
>>>> your display/monito, and whatever software you are using to facilitate
>>>> viewing your images. That might well be Lightroom, but that viewing is done
>>>> on whichever display/monitor you are using. Ideally you are using a
>>>> calibrated display/monitor. That calibration should be done using one of
>>>> the
>>>> tools available from Datacolor, or X-Rite such as the Spyder5Pro, X-Rite
>>>> ColorMunki display, X-Rite i1Display Pro, X-Rite i1Studio
>>>> Spectrophotometer,
>>>> or any of the tools they offer.
>>>>
>>>> After display/monitor calibration those tools, and software can generate an
>>>> icc profile for the display/monitor, and room lighting which can be applied
>>>> via Lightroom, for viewing images under that specific lighting. Some of
>>>> these
>>>> calibration tools also hgave the capability to adjust calibration according
>>>> to changing light in that room.
>>>>
>>>> Then you have the issue of generating printer/paper icc profiles for
>>>> printing, which are quite different to display/monitor calibration
>>>> profiles.
>>>>
>>>> <http://x-rite.com>
>>>
>>> Try this: <https://www.xrite.com>
>>>
>>>> <https://www.datacolor.com/photography-design/>
>>
>> might be a nice feature for Lightroom ... compatible with some
>> measurement instruments ... and data like viewing angle, white point, etc.
> 
> Those tools have nothing to do with Lightroom, other than generating icc
> profiles which can be use with Lightroom, printers, projectors, etc. The
> important issue is having your display/monitor properly calibrated when used
> under the ambient light in whatever room you use for editing. Without that
> calibration any attempt at color management, regardless of icc profile you
> might have available, will be unsuccessful.
> 
> ...and then there is your camera, and whatever light conditions, or
> artificial light you might find yourself shooting under.
> 

there is a difference between managing color and managing appearance, 
look up CIECAM02 on wikipedia

viewing environment like a light room is one variable in appearance

I think ICC considers CIECAM02

-- 
dale - https://www.dalekelly.org/
Not a professional opinion unless specified.

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ICC profile for a light box dale <dale@dalekelly.org> - 2018-07-25 06:02 -0400
  Re: ICC profile for a light box nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-07-25 07:38 -0400
    Re: ICC profile for a light box dale <dale@dalekelly.org> - 2018-07-25 08:33 -0400
      Re: ICC profile for a light box nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-07-25 11:21 -0400
        Re: ICC profile for a light box Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> - 2018-07-26 12:43 +1200
    Re: ICC profile for a light box dale <dale@dalekelly.org> - 2018-07-30 19:44 -0400
      Re: ICC profile for a light box Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2018-07-30 17:31 -0700
        Re: ICC profile for a light box Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2018-07-30 17:33 -0700
          Re: ICC profile for a light box dale <dale@dalekelly.org> - 2018-07-30 21:49 -0400
            Re: ICC profile for a light box nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-07-30 21:57 -0400
              Re: ICC profile for a light box dale <dale@dalekelly.org> - 2018-07-31 05:52 -0400
                Re: ICC profile for a light box Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2018-07-31 06:01 -0700
                Re: ICC profile for a light box dale <dale@dalekelly.org> - 2018-07-31 09:58 -0400
                Re: ICC profile for a light box nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-07-31 10:06 -0400
                Re: ICC profile for a light box dale <dale@dalekelly.org> - 2018-07-31 10:22 -0400
                Re: ICC profile for a light box dale <dale@dalekelly.org> - 2018-07-31 10:30 -0400
                Re: ICC profile for a light box Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2018-07-31 07:46 -0700
                Re: ICC profile for a light box dale <dale@dalekelly.org> - 2018-07-31 11:59 -0400
                Re: ICC profile for a light box dale <dale@dalekelly.org> - 2018-07-31 20:35 -0400
                Re: ICC profile for a light box Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> - 2018-08-01 12:24 +1200
                Re: ICC profile for a light box Martin Brown <'''newspam'''@nezumi.demon.co.uk> - 2018-08-02 09:54 +0100
                Re: ICC profile for a light box dale <dale@dalekelly.org> - 2018-08-02 15:48 -0400
                Re: ICC profile for a light box dale <dale@dalekelly.org> - 2018-08-05 14:31 -0400
            Re: ICC profile for a light box Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2018-07-30 19:07 -0700
              Re: ICC profile for a light box dale <dale@dalekelly.org> - 2018-07-31 05:51 -0400
        Re: ICC profile for a light box dale <dale@dalekelly.org> - 2018-07-30 21:45 -0400
          Re: ICC profile for a light box nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-07-30 21:46 -0400
            Re: ICC profile for a light box dale <dale@dalekelly.org> - 2018-07-31 05:52 -0400
              Re: ICC profile for a light box dale <dale@dalekelly.org> - 2018-07-31 07:07 -0400
            Re: ICC profile for a light box PeterN <"peter,newdelete"@deleteverizon.net> - 2018-08-02 18:28 -0400
      Re: ICC profile for a light box nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-07-30 21:31 -0400
        Re: ICC profile for a light box dale <dale@dalekelly.org> - 2018-07-30 21:47 -0400
        Re: ICC profile for a light box Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> - 2018-08-01 12:28 +1200
          Re: ICC profile for a light box nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-07-31 20:59 -0400

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