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  Re: Sunday night dinner % <peescent@qmail.net> - 2026-09-28 12:09 -0400
    Re: Sunday night dinner multistrada <ab@in.valid> - 2026-09-28 16:07 -0600
    Re: Sunday night dinner Scott Gilbert <sapguru@schmegegge.net> - 2026-09-30 03:55 -0400
      Re: Sunday night dinner R Kym Horsell <kym@sdf.org> - 2026-10-01 18:12 +0000
        Re: Sunday night dinner multistrada <ab@in.valid> - 2026-10-12 13:22 -0600
          another self-inflicted wound R Kym Horsell <kym@sdf.org> - 2026-10-12 20:29 +0000
            Re: another self-inflicted wound Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-10-13 08:57 +1100
              Re: another self-inflicted wound multistrada <ab@in.valid> - 2026-10-13 09:29 -0600
                Re: another self-inflicted wound Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-10-14 05:52 +1100
            Re: another self-inflicted wound multistrada <ab@in.valid> - 2026-10-13 09:24 -0600
          Re: Sunday night dinner Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-10-13 09:39 +1100
            Re: Sunday night dinner "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-10-13 10:20 +1100
              Re: Sunday night dinner multistrada <ab@in.valid> - 2026-10-13 09:47 -0600
            Re: Sunday night dinner multistrada <ab@in.valid> - 2026-10-13 09:43 -0600
          Re: Sunday night dinner R Kym Horsell <kym@sdf.org> - 2026-10-13 04:31 +0000
            Re: Sunday night dinner "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-10-13 16:04 +1100
              Re: Sunday night dinner multistrada <ab@in.valid> - 2026-10-13 11:42 -0600
                Re: Sunday night dinner Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-10-14 05:16 +1100
                  Re: Sunday night dinner multistrada <ab@in.valid> - 2026-10-13 14:11 -0600
                    Re: Sunday night dinner R Kym Horsell <kym@sdf.org> - 2026-10-13 22:18 +0000
                      Re: Sunday night dinner "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-10-14 10:16 +1100
                      Re: Sunday night dinner Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-10-14 12:21 +1100
              Re: Sunday night dinner "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-10-14 10:19 +1100
                Re: Sunday night dinner R Kym Horsell <kym@sdf.org> - 2026-10-13 23:52 +0000
                  Re: Sunday night dinner "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-10-14 11:19 +1100
                    Re: Sunday night dinner R Kym Horsell <kym@sdf.org> - 2026-10-14 00:44 +0000
                      Re: Sunday night dinner "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-10-14 13:02 +1100

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#102405 — Re: Sunday night dinner

MummyChunk wrote:
>> Dave Smith wrote:
>> We had a slight change of plan and ended up changing our plan of attack
>> for cooking our rack of lamb. We usually brown the rack on all sides in
>> a pan  and finishing it in a hot oven or searing it on direct heat in
>> the BBQ and then finishing it offset. Tonight we just roasted it in a
>> hot oven. The rack had been marinated and we preheated the oven to 450.
>> It went in for 35 minutes and was then taken out and sat for 10 minutes
>> before I cut it up. I have to admit that it was just slightly overcooked
>> for my taste but it every chop was pink and they were incredibly tender.
>> We were thrilled with the results.
> 
> 
> 
> What did you marinate it in?
> 
horse piss with the foam farted off

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#102412

On 9/28/26 10:09 AM, % wrote:
> MummyChunk wrote:
>>> Dave Smith wrote:
>>> We had a slight change of plan and ended up changing our plan of attack
>>> for cooking our rack of lamb. We usually brown the rack on all sides in
>>> a pan  and finishing it in a hot oven or searing it on direct heat in
>>> the BBQ and then finishing it offset. Tonight we just roasted it in a
>>> hot oven. The rack had been marinated and we preheated the oven to 450.
>>> It went in for 35 minutes and was then taken out and sat for 10 minutes
>>> before I cut it up. I have to admit that it was just slightly overcooked
>>> for my taste but it every chop was pink and they were incredibly tender.
>>> We were thrilled with the results.
>>
>>
>>
>> What did you marinate it in?
>>
> horse piss with the foam farted off

Inuit latte

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#102445

% wrote:
> MummyChunk wrote:
>>> Dave Smith wrote:
>>> We had a slight change of plan and ended up changing our plan of attack
>>> for cooking our rack of lamb. We usually brown the rack on all sides in
>>> a pan  and finishing it in a hot oven or searing it on direct heat in
>>> the BBQ and then finishing it offset. Tonight we just roasted it in a
>>> hot oven. The rack had been marinated and we preheated the oven to 450.
>>> It went in for 35 minutes and was then taken out and sat for 10 minutes
>>> before I cut it up. I have to admit that it was just slightly overcooked
>>> for my taste but it every chop was pink and they were incredibly tender.
>>> We were thrilled with the results.
>>
>>
>>
>> What did you marinate it in?
>>
> horse piss with the foam farted off
 >
 >
https://postimg.cc/JyDBYCfC

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#102446

[cut down newsgroups]
|% wrote:
|> MummyChunk wrote:
|>>> Dave Smith wrote:
|>>> We had a slight change of plan and ended up changing our plan of attack
|>>> for cooking our rack of lamb. We usually brown the rack on all sides in
|>>> a pan?? and finishing it in a hot oven or searing it on direct heat in
|>>> the BBQ and then finishing it offset. Tonight we just roasted it in a
|>>> hot oven. The rack had been marinated and we preheated the oven to 450.
|>>> It went in for 35 minutes and was then taken out and sat for 10 minutes
|>>> before I cut it up. I have to admit that it was just slightly overcooked
|>>> for my taste but it every chop was pink and they were incredibly tender.
|>>> We were thrilled with the results.
|>> What did you marinate it in?
|> horse piss with the foam farted off
|https://postimg.cc/JyDBYCfC


obsci:

US state              av#redmeat/wk    stroke rate
				       age std/100k pop
Maine                    0.000000           32      32.6126
Vermont                  0.500000         33.2      33.0616
Maryland                 1.000000        34.55      33.5105
New.York                 1.000000        32.25      33.5105
Connecticut              2.000000        32.65      34.4085*
New.Jersey               2.000000         36.6      34.4085*
Washington               2.500000           36      34.8575
Arizona                  3.000000        34.85      35.3065
Michigan                 3.000000        35.95      35.3065
Nevada                   3.000000         36.2      35.3065
Colorado                 4.000000         37.6      36.2045
New.Mexico               4.000000        35.45      36.2045
Wyoming                  4.500000        33.65      36.6535**
Missouri                 6.000000        37.25      38.0005
Oklahoma                 7.500000         40.5      39.3475

y = 8.979921e-01*x + 3.261256e+01
beta in 0.897992 +- 0.333158 (90% CI)
T-test: P(beta>0) = 0.999818
Rank test :calculated Spearman corr = 0.717857
|r| > rc (0.623000 2-sided) at 1%; reject H0
r2 = 0.63672207

The diff between states like Maine with little red meat per wk 
and OK where every other meal is red meat is about 20% for 
stroke rates (equiv to 1.8y loss of left exp).

Maybe the kids will be smarter.

-- 
The penalty for laughing in a courtroom is six months in jail; if it
were not for this penalty, the jury would never hear the evidence.
-- H. L. Mencken

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#102469

On 10/1/26 12:12 PM, R Kym Horsell wrote:
> The diff between states like Maine with little red meat per wk
> and OK where every other meal is red meat is about 20% for
> stroke rates (equiv to 1.8y loss of left exp).

Did you Oztards all recently give up on red meat?



https://straitsresearch.com/statistic/countries-with-the-highest-beef-consumption-rates


AI Overview

Australians consume an average of 29.4 kg of red meat per person each 
year (broken down as about 22.4 kg of beef and 7 kg of sheepmeat).

Key Consumption Facts

• Daily Intake: On average, Australian men eat about 64.3g of red meat 
per day, and women eat about 47.8g per day.
• Household Reach: Beef is purchased or eaten by more than 90% of 
Australian households, and lamb by around 70% to 72%.
• Dietary Recommendations: The Australian Dietary Guidelines suggest 
eating up to 455g of cooked lean red meat per week (roughly 3 to 4 meals).
• Global Standing: Australia remains one of the highest per-capita 
consumers of red meat in the world, sitting well above global averages.

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#102470 — another self-inflicted wound

[After 2 wks of wound-licking, 700 lines of AI slop]

Phh.

-- 
US government mislabels countries on map of Africa at global conference
Al Jazeera, 1 Aug 2026 19:41

Op-eds, academic articles by Provost Santiago Schnell flagged as
`AI-written' by `near-zero error' AI detector Pangram
The Dartmouth, 17 Sep 2026

Cloudflare says humans could become a "rounding error" as bots generate
1,000 times more internet traffic
TechSpot, 8 Aug 2026 21:31

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#102471 — Re: another self-inflicted wound

On Mon, 12 Oct 2026 20:29:13 -0000 (UTC), R Kym Horsell <kym@sdf.org>
wrote:

>Cloudflare says humans could become a "rounding error" as bots generate
>1,000 times more internet traffic
>TechSpot, 8 Aug 2026 21:31
>
Cloudflare are a major part of the problem in concealing URL IP's with
their own for free,

Need to have at lest a small credit card fee for say 3 years (US$10?)

Same for throwaway email addresses
-- 
Petzl
An evil enemy will from within, 
will burn his own nation to then rule over the ashes.
   Chinese military strategist Sun Tzu 
   (author of The Art of War), 5th century BC.

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#102480 — Re: another self-inflicted wound

On 10/12/26 3:57 PM, Petzl wrote:
> On Mon, 12 Oct 2026 20:29:13 -0000 (UTC), R Kym Horsell <kym@sdf.org>
> wrote:
> 
>> Cloudflare says humans could become a "rounding error" as bots generate
>> 1,000 times more internet traffic
>> TechSpot, 8 Aug 2026 21:31
>>
> Cloudflare are a major part of the problem in concealing URL IP's with
> their own for free,
> 
> Need to have at lest a small credit card fee for say 3 years (US$10?)
> 
> Same for throwaway email addresses

Cloudflare is censorious proxy fascism and little more.


Cloudflare blocks you while using a VPN because shared VPN IP addresses 
are frequently flagged for malicious activity, or the website you are 
visiting has set strict security rules to reject data center and proxy 
traffic.


Why Cloudflare Blocks VPN Users
Shared IP Reputations: Thousands of users share the same VPN server IP 
address. If a few people abuse that IP for scraping, spam, or attacks, 
Cloudflare flags the entire IP range as toxic.


Bot and DDoS Protection: Cloudflare's Web Application Firewall (WAF) and 
bot-detection systems (like machine learning and TLS fingerprinting) 
treat sudden or anonymized traffic patterns with high suspicion.
Strict Website Rules: Individual website owners choose their own 
Cloudflare security settings. Many configure their firewalls to block 
all known VPNs, data centers, or VPS provider ranges.


Terms of Service Restrictions: Cloudflare explicitly prohibits running 
unauthorized proxy or VPN services across its network, leading to 
automated blocks against flagged routing nodes.

Cloudflare Community
How to Fix or Bypass the Block
Switch VPN Servers: Disconnect and connect to a different server 
location or region to get a fresh IP address that might not be 
blacklisted yet.


Use Specialized VPN Features: If your provider offers them, try 
connecting to an obfuscated server or a dedicated IP address.
Disable Ad-Blockers or Privacy Extensions: Strict browser extensions can 
trigger Cloudflare's browser integrity checks or cause verification 
loops with tools like Turnstile.


Turn Off the VPN: Temporarily disable your VPN if you just need to 
access a protected site immediately.

Cloudflare Community
Contact the Website Owner: If the block is a false positive, reach out 
to the support team or webmaster of the specific site you are trying to 
visit and provide them with the Ray ID shown on your block screen so 
they can whitelist your session.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45835123

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#102487 — Re: another self-inflicted wound

On Tue, 13 Oct 2026 09:29:09 -0600, multistrada <ab@in.valid> wrote:

>On 10/12/26 3:57 PM, Petzl wrote:
>> On Mon, 12 Oct 2026 20:29:13 -0000 (UTC), R Kym Horsell <kym@sdf.org>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Cloudflare says humans could become a "rounding error" as bots generate
>>> 1,000 times more internet traffic
>>> TechSpot, 8 Aug 2026 21:31
>>>
>> Cloudflare are a major part of the problem in concealing URL IP's with
>> their own for free,
>> 
>> Need to have at lest a small credit card fee for say 3 years (US$10?)
>> 
>> Same for throwaway email addresses
>
>Cloudflare is censorious proxy fascism and little more.
>
>
>Cloudflare blocks you while using a VPN because shared VPN IP addresses 
>are frequently flagged for malicious activity, or the website you are 
>visiting has set strict security rules to reject data center and proxy 
>traffic.
>
>
>Why Cloudflare Blocks VPN Users
>Shared IP Reputations: Thousands of users share the same VPN server IP 
>address. If a few people abuse that IP for scraping, spam, or attacks, 
>Cloudflare flags the entire IP range as toxic.
>
>
>Bot and DDoS Protection: Cloudflare's Web Application Firewall (WAF) and 
>bot-detection systems (like machine learning and TLS fingerprinting) 
>treat sudden or anonymized traffic patterns with high suspicion.
>Strict Website Rules: Individual website owners choose their own 
>Cloudflare security settings. Many configure their firewalls to block 
>all known VPNs, data centers, or VPS provider ranges.
>
>
>Terms of Service Restrictions: Cloudflare explicitly prohibits running 
>unauthorized proxy or VPN services across its network, leading to 
>automated blocks against flagged routing nodes.
>
>Cloudflare Community
>How to Fix or Bypass the Block
>Switch VPN Servers: Disconnect and connect to a different server 
>location or region to get a fresh IP address that might not be 
>blacklisted yet.
>
>
>Use Specialized VPN Features: If your provider offers them, try 
>connecting to an obfuscated server or a dedicated IP address.
>Disable Ad-Blockers or Privacy Extensions: Strict browser extensions can 
>trigger Cloudflare's browser integrity checks or cause verification 
>loops with tools like Turnstile.
>
>
>Turn Off the VPN: Temporarily disable your VPN if you just need to 
>access a protected site immediately.
>
>Cloudflare Community
>Contact the Website Owner: If the block is a false positive, reach out 
>to the support team or webmaster of the specific site you are trying to 
>visit and provide them with the Ray ID shown on your block screen so 
>they can whitelist your session.
>
>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45835123
>
Often use SpamCop to report spam

This was redirect American Express  spoofing spam 
Re: https://t.co/ELA7Vb0Ly9 (Administrator of network hosting website
referenced in spam)
abuse#cloudflare.com@devnull.spamcop.net
Host t.co (checking ip) = 162.159.140.229
Resolves to 162.159.140.229
Routing details for 162.159.140.229
[refresh/show] Cached whois for 162.159.140.229 : abuse@cloudflare.com

Redirects to spoof also Cloudflare concealed IP
blob:https://pub-f153bc71369c4af4813a7b3d7ead5de4.r2.dev/f3de6e0a-ec9d-4794-8676-e1fb0926e72a

Name: pub-f153bc71369c4af4813a7b3d7ead5de4.r2.dev
IP: 104.18.54.45, 104.18.50.34  Cloudflare concealed IP's

Complaints to Cloudflare are ignored they even have a longwinded web
page for reporting which auto acks you back that the address has
nothing wrong. 
https://abuse.cloudflare.com/phishing

I also send spoof reports in this case American Express was the site
being spoofed, as I do for most high profile businesses
 down in less than 24 hours, they send high priced legal talk to
Cloudflare who know they mean
Spammer, annoying clown,  vanished for months, back now

Got a cheap AU$50 a month ISP reseller 500Mpbs down 50Mpbs up
A chat forum has it's IP banned, some at some Reddit the same use my
VPN to bypass also if I use for geo blocking of Australia
VPN use shared IP's but do not limit number of users on one account so
VPN account have a great many non-paying users, a great many dregs of
society that give the Internet a bad name

But no troubles using without a VPN anywhere else 
My provider Amaysim, a reseller of Optus "dud" IP's because their
abuse desk is lame.
-- 
Petzl
An evil enemy will from within, 
will burn his own nation to then rule over the ashes.
   Chinese military strategist Sun Tzu 
   (author of The Art of War), 5th century BC.

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#102479 — Re: another self-inflicted wound

On 10/12/26 2:29 PM, R Kym Horsell wrote:
> [After 2 wks of wound-licking, 700 lines of AI slop]
> 
> Phh.
> 
Complete and total *capitulation* just as it should be.

Go stretch some more pee-holes, Doc.

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#102473

On Mon, 12 Oct 2026 13:22:49 -0600, multistrada <ab@in.valid> wrote:

>On 10/1/26 12:12 PM, R Kym Horsell wrote:
>> The diff between states like Maine with little red meat per wk
>> and OK where every other meal is red meat is about 20% for
>> stroke rates (equiv to 1.8y loss of left exp).
>
>Did you Oztards all recently give up on red meat?
>
>
>
>https://straitsresearch.com/statistic/countries-with-the-highest-beef-consumption-rates
>
>
>AI Overview
>
>Australians consume an average of 29.4 kg of red meat per person each 
>year (broken down as about 22.4 kg of beef and 7 kg of sheepmeat).
>
>Key Consumption Facts
>
>• Daily Intake: On average, Australian men eat about 64.3g of red meat 
>per day, and women eat about 47.8g per day.
>• Household Reach: Beef is purchased or eaten by more than 90% of 
>Australian households, and lamb by around 70% to 72%.
>

Since Halal certification magically Australia beef has gone from very
best in world to tough, bloodless and tough
in early 1980's a "T" bone steak produced it's own gravy delicious.
As it is considered in Koran to pay for Halal certification is
considered a transgression by Allah, 
In Islam, trespassing or transgressing regarding the Halal (lawful)
centers on Surah Al-Ma'idah (5:87), where Allah commands:
"O believers! Do not forbid the good things which Allah has made
lawful for you, and do not transgress. Indeed, Allah does not like
transgressors."
>    
Halal butchers do nor buy from Halal Certified abattoirs 
So now the case is
Halal butchers in Sydney have the original Aussie beef.
-- 
Petzl
An evil enemy will from within, 
will burn his own nation to then rule over the ashes.
   Chinese military strategist Sun Tzu 
   (author of The Art of War), 5th century BC.

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#102475

Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote

> Since Halal certification magically Australia beef has gone from very
> best in world to tough, bloodless and tough

More of your mindless bullshit

> in early 1980's a "T" bone steak produced it's own gravy delicious.

Still does

> Halal butchers do nor buy from Halal Certified abattoirs

More of your mindless bullshit

> So now the case is
> Halal butchers in Sydney have the original Aussie beef.

More of your mindless bullshit

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#102484

On 10/12/26 5:20 PM, Rod Speed wrote:
> More of your mindless bullshit
>
> Still does
> 
> More of your mindless bullshit
> 
> More of your mindless bullshit



      (   )
   (   ) (
    ) _   )
     ( \_
   _(_\ \)__
  (____\___))

...don't step in rod speed troll droppings...

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#102482

On 10/12/26 4:39 PM, Petzl wrote:
> On Mon, 12 Oct 2026 13:22:49 -0600, multistrada <ab@in.valid> wrote:
> 
>> On 10/1/26 12:12 PM, R Kym Horsell wrote:
>>> The diff between states like Maine with little red meat per wk
>>> and OK where every other meal is red meat is about 20% for
>>> stroke rates (equiv to 1.8y loss of left exp).
>>
>> Did you Oztards all recently give up on red meat?
>>
>>
>>
>> https://straitsresearch.com/statistic/countries-with-the-highest-beef-consumption-rates
>>
>>
>> AI Overview
>>
>> Australians consume an average of 29.4 kg of red meat per person each
>> year (broken down as about 22.4 kg of beef and 7 kg of sheepmeat).
>>
>> Key Consumption Facts
>>
>> • Daily Intake: On average, Australian men eat about 64.3g of red meat
>> per day, and women eat about 47.8g per day.
>> • Household Reach: Beef is purchased or eaten by more than 90% of
>> Australian households, and lamb by around 70% to 72%.
>>
> 
> Since Halal certification magically Australia beef has gone from very
> best in world to tough, bloodless and tough

damn...

> in early 1980's a "T" bone steak produced it's own gravy delicious.
> As it is considered in Koran to pay for Halal certification is
> considered a transgression by Allah,
> In Islam, trespassing or transgressing regarding the Halal (lawful)
> centers on Surah Al-Ma'idah (5:87), where Allah commands:
> "O believers! Do not forbid the good things which Allah has made
> lawful for you, and do not transgress. Indeed, Allah does not like
> transgressors."
>>     
> Halal butchers do nor buy from Halal Certified abattoirs
> So now the case is
> Halal butchers in Sydney have the original Aussie beef.

WTF?!?!?

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#102477

|> The diff between states like Maine with little red meat per wk
|> and OK where every other meal is red meat is about 20% for
|> stroke rates (equiv to 1.8y loss of left exp).
|AI Overview
|Australians consume an average of 29.4 kg of red meat per person each 
|year (broken down as about 22.4 kg of beef and 7 kg of sheepmeat).
|Key Consumption Facts
|??? Daily Intake: On average, Australian men eat about 64.3g of red meat 
|per day, and women eat about 47.8g per day.
|??? Household Reach: Beef is purchased or eaten by more than 90% of 
|Australian households, and lamb by around 70% to 72%.
|??? Dietary Recommendations: The Australian Dietary Guidelines suggest 
|eating up to 455g of cooked lean red meat per week (roughly 3 to 4 meals).
|??? Global Standing: Australia remains one of the highest per-capita 
consumers of red meat in the world, sitting well above global averages.

As numerous lawyers and Whitehouse internets are learning.
AI is not a substitute for knowing something or knowing how to find it out.

Australia has one of if not *the* highest pet ownership rates in the world.  
There are in round numbers 25 million people, 15 million cats and a 
similar number of dogs.

The recommended daily intake for cats -- hyper carnivores -- is
around 1/4 kg per day. I.e. a household with a cat already has committed
to buy 90+ kg of some kind of meat to feed to their pet per year.
From what I can see from the neighbours they aren't content to feed
"recycled meat" aka catfood to their pet, it's prime beef mince. :)

From the numbers quoted we can determine the annual "household consumption"
of meat in Aus is around 3*30 == 90 kg from which it seems 45 kg goes
to the avg .5 household cat.

Already it seems "household consumption" is not a great measure
for actual "number of meat meals eaten (by a human)".

And we're not even looking at the dogs that likely account for another
20 kg per HH/y.

The AI in the business is blameless. I know him personally.
But the person prompting it is a known nitwit try-hard that has
never right about anything, not even a little bit.

Finally, we can sanity check the numbers so far by checking the 
stroke rate. Australian deaths from stroke ran around 32 per 100k in '24.
I.e. around the rate for Arizona or Nebraska that are ranked around 40th
in stroke rates for the US.

Seems like the "household meat consumption" going by AI prompting is --
as they say in Australia -- a furphy.

-- 
[A familiar satank from a new random case-changing hillbilly:]
On 8/25/2017 10:21 AM, Sub-Mariner wrote:
> On 8/24/2017 10:56 PM, Unum wrote:
>> Water temperatures at the surface of the Gulf of Mexico and near South 
>> Florida are on fire.
> Hey guess what shitbag, it's...wait for it...SUMMER in the subtropics!
Does ratboy feed you under the table along with the other sockpuppets? 
-- Unum, 26 Aug 2017 9.04am

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#102478

R Kym Horsell <kym@sdf.org> wrote

> |> The diff between states like Maine with little red meat per wk
> |> and OK where every other meal is red meat is about 20% for
> |> stroke rates (equiv to 1.8y loss of left exp).

> |AI Overview
> |Australians consume an average of 29.4 kg of red meat per person each
> |year (broken down as about 22.4 kg of beef and 7 kg of sheepmeat).

> |Key Consumption Facts
> |??? Daily Intake: On average, Australian men eat about 64.3g of red meat
> |per day, and women eat about 47.8g per day.
> |??? Household Reach: Beef is purchased or eaten by more than 90% of
> |Australian households, and lamb by around 70% to 72%.
> |??? Dietary Recommendations: The Australian Dietary Guidelines suggest
> |eating up to 455g of cooked lean red meat per week (roughly 3 to 4  
> meals).

> |??? Global Standing: Australia remains one of the highest per-capita
> consumers of red meat in the world, sitting well above global averages.

> As numerous lawyers and Whitehouse internets are learning.
> AI is not a substitute for knowing something or knowing how to find it  
> out.

Bullshit

> Australia has one of if not *the* highest pet ownership rates in the  
> world.

Nothing even remotely like the highest

> There are in round numbers 25 million people, 15 million cats and a
> similar number of dogs.

More ignorant bullshit on the number of cats and dogs
https://grok.com/share/bGVnYWN5_a887ab3d-f4e5-440a-844b-bd60896a88a0

> The recommended daily intake for cats -- hyper carnivores -- is
> around 1/4 kg per day. I.e. a household with a cat already has committed
> to buy 90+ kg of some kind of meat to feed to their pet per year.

> From what I can see from the neighbours they aren't content to feed
> "recycled meat" aka catfood to their pet, it's prime beef mince. :)

Then you need new glasses

> From the numbers quoted we can determine the annual "household  
> consumption"
> of meat in Aus is around 3*30 == 90 kg from which it seems 45 kg goes
> to the avg .5 household cat.

That last number is complete fiction too

> Already it seems "household consumption" is not a great measure
> for actual "number of meat meals eaten (by a human)".

> And we're not even looking at the dogs that likely account for another
> 20 kg per HH/y.

More bullshit numbers

> The AI in the business is blameless. I know him personally.
> But the person prompting it is a known nitwit try-hard that has
> never right about anything, not even a little bit.

> Finally, we can sanity check the numbers so far by checking the
> stroke rate. Australian deaths from stroke ran around 32 per 100k in '24.

The actual number is 29

> I.e. around the rate for Arizona or Nebraska that are ranked around 40th
> in stroke rates for the US.

> Seems like the "household meat consumption" going by AI prompting is --
> as they say in Australia -- a furphy.

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#102485

On 10/12/26 11:04 PM, Rod Speed wrote:
> R Kym Horsell <kym@sdf.org> wrote
> 
>> |> The diff between states like Maine with little red meat per wk
>> |> and OK where every other meal is red meat is about 20% for
>> |> stroke rates (equiv to 1.8y loss of left exp).
> 
>> |AI Overview
>> |Australians consume an average of 29.4 kg of red meat per person each
>> |year (broken down as about 22.4 kg of beef and 7 kg of sheepmeat).
> 
>> |Key Consumption Facts
>> |??? Daily Intake: On average, Australian men eat about 64.3g of red meat
>> |per day, and women eat about 47.8g per day.
>> |??? Household Reach: Beef is purchased or eaten by more than 90% of
>> |Australian households, and lamb by around 70% to 72%.
>> |??? Dietary Recommendations: The Australian Dietary Guidelines suggest
>> |eating up to 455g of cooked lean red meat per week (roughly 3 to 4 
>> meals).
> 
>> |??? Global Standing: Australia remains one of the highest per-capita
>> consumers of red meat in the world, sitting well above global averages.
> 
>> As numerous lawyers and Whitehouse internets are learning.
>> AI is not a substitute for knowing something or knowing how to find it 
>> out.
> 
> Bullshit

Alas as this become so we will surrender to embedded bullshit and never 
recognize it for such, eventually...


>> Australia has one of if not *the* highest pet ownership rates in the 
>> world.
> 
> Nothing even remotely like the highest

7-9% off is certainly close enough:

• Household Ownership: 73% of Australian households own at least one pet 
(up from 69% in 2022 and 61% in 2019).
• Total Pet Population: Around 31.6 million pets across approximately 
7.7 million pet-owning households.


Highest Percentage of Pet-Owning Households by Country/Region

Argentina: ~80% – 82% of households own a pet (leading the world in 
overall ownership and high dog ownership rates).
Mexico: ~81% of households own a pet.
Brazil: ~76% of households own a pet.

>> There are in round numbers 25 million people, 15 million cats and a
>> similar number of dogs.
> 
> More ignorant bullshit on the number of cats and dogs
> https://grok.com/share/bGVnYWN5_a887ab3d-f4e5-440a-844b-bd60896a88a0

No, more trVth.

>> The recommended daily intake for cats -- hyper carnivores -- is
>> around 1/4 kg per day. I.e. a household with a cat already has committed
>> to buy 90+ kg of some kind of meat to feed to their pet per year.
> 
>> From what I can see from the neighbours they aren't content to feed
>> "recycled meat" aka catfood to their pet, it's prime beef mince. :)
> 
> Then you need new glasses

Are you observing his neighbours that closely to know, troller?

>> From the numbers quoted we can determine the annual "household 
>> consumption"
>> of meat in Aus is around 3*30 == 90 kg from which it seems 45 kg goes
>> to the avg .5 household cat.
> 
> That last number is complete fiction too


Main Diet Types

• Commercial Kibble and Tins: Around 79% of dogs and 90% of cats in 
Australia are fed conventional dry biscuits or tinned wet food.
• Raw and Homemade Diets: Many owners feed a mix of raw meat (such as 
kangaroo, beef, or lamb), bones, offal, and cooked or fresh vegetables 
(like carrots, peas, and pumpkin).
• Fresh Delivery Services: Freshly cooked, subscription-based pet food 
tailored to specific breeds or nutritional needs has also grown in 
popularity.

Common Proteins & Add-Ins

• Proteins: Beef, chicken, lamb, kangaroo, and salmon.
• Safe Extras: Cooked eggs, plain rice, oats, sweet potato, green beans, 
and berries.

>> Already it seems "household consumption" is not a great measure
>> for actual "number of meat meals eaten (by a human)".
> 
>> And we're not even looking at the dogs that likely account for another
>> 20 kg per HH/y.
> 
> More bullshit numbers

Local and Novel Proteins: Australian diets often feature lean, native or 
pasture-raised meats like kangaroo, lamb, and turkey, which are high in 
protein and omega fatty acids.

https://primalprey.com.au/2025/12/15/raw-dog-food-feeding-guide-australia-how-much-raw-food-to-feed-your-dog-by-age-weight/

Adult Dogs
56 – 68 Weeks
➡️ 3% of total body weight per day


All-Beef Raw Diet	0.33 lbs (approx. 150g) per 20 lbs of body weight 
daily	A 40 lb (18 kg) dog on an exclusive fresh beef diet requires 
roughly 0.66 lbs (300g) of ground beef daily to maintain weight.

> 
>> The AI in the business is blameless. I know him personally.
>> But the person prompting it is a known nitwit try-hard that has
>> never right about anything, not even a little bit.
> 
>> Finally, we can sanity check the numbers so far by checking the
>> stroke rate. Australian deaths from stroke ran around 32 per 100k in '24.
> 
> The actual number is 29

That is one end of the range, troller:


Key Stroke Mortality Statistics (Latest ABS & AIHW Data)

• Total Deaths: Stroke claimed 9,147 lives in Australia in 2024 
(according to the Australian Bureau of Statistics Causes of Death 
Report), or roughly 7,900–8,000+ depending on specific underlying-cause 
vs. cerebrovascular classifications.
• Death Rate: The age-standardized stroke death rate sits at 
approximately 29 to 34 per 100,000 population.

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#102486

On Tue, 13 Oct 2026 11:42:56 -0600, multistrada <ab@in.valid> wrote:
SNIP EOD SPEED BS DROPPINGS

>> More bullshit numbers
>
>Local and Novel Proteins: Australian diets often feature lean, native or 
>pasture-raised meats like kangaroo, lamb, and turkey, which are high in 
>protein and omega fatty acids.
>
>https://primalprey.com.au/2025/12/15/raw-dog-food-feeding-guide-australia-how-much-raw-food-to-feed-your-dog-by-age-weight/
>
>Adult Dogs
>56 – 68 Weeks
>?? 3% of total body weight per day
>
>
>All-Beef Raw Diet	0.33 lbs (approx. 150g) per 20 lbs of body weight 
>daily	A 40 lb (18 kg) dog on an exclusive fresh beef diet requires 
>roughly 0.66 lbs (300g) of ground beef daily to maintain weight.
>
>> 
>>> The AI in the business is blameless. I know him personally.
>>> But the person prompting it is a known nitwit try-hard that has
>>> never right about anything, not even a little bit.
>> 
>>> Finally, we can sanity check the numbers so far by checking the
>>> stroke rate. Australian deaths from stroke ran around 32 per 100k in '24.
>> 
>> The actual number is 29
>
>That is one end of the range, troller:
>
>
>Key Stroke Mortality Statistics (Latest ABS & AIHW Data)
>
>• Total Deaths: Stroke claimed 9,147 lives in Australia in 2024 
>(according to the Australian Bureau of Statistics Causes of Death 
>Report), or roughly 7,900–8,000+ depending on specific underlying-cause 
>vs. cerebrovascular classifications.
>• Death Rate: The age-standardized stroke death rate sits at 
>approximately 29 to 34 per 100,000 population.
>
Rod Speed a annoying  Australian he can literally type faster than you
can talk, let alone type!

Best to ignore or he will continue to bait you with his BS droppings.
Rarely goes with a constructive flow
-- 
Petzl

Our Australian commonwealth has survived numerous recessions, one
major depression, and two world wars. 
Doubt if it will survive under a Albanese Labor Government.

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#102488

On 10/13/26 12:16 PM, Petzl wrote:
> On Tue, 13 Oct 2026 11:42:56 -0600, multistrada <ab@in.valid> wrote:
> SNIP EOD SPEED BS DROPPINGS
> 
>>> More bullshit numbers
>>
>> Local and Novel Proteins: Australian diets often feature lean, native or
>> pasture-raised meats like kangaroo, lamb, and turkey, which are high in
>> protein and omega fatty acids.
>>
>> https://primalprey.com.au/2025/12/15/raw-dog-food-feeding-guide-australia-how-much-raw-food-to-feed-your-dog-by-age-weight/
>>
>> Adult Dogs
>> 56 – 68 Weeks
>> ?? 3% of total body weight per day
>>
>>
>> All-Beef Raw Diet	0.33 lbs (approx. 150g) per 20 lbs of body weight
>> daily	A 40 lb (18 kg) dog on an exclusive fresh beef diet requires
>> roughly 0.66 lbs (300g) of ground beef daily to maintain weight.
>>
>>>
>>>> The AI in the business is blameless. I know him personally.
>>>> But the person prompting it is a known nitwit try-hard that has
>>>> never right about anything, not even a little bit.
>>>
>>>> Finally, we can sanity check the numbers so far by checking the
>>>> stroke rate. Australian deaths from stroke ran around 32 per 100k in '24.
>>>
>>> The actual number is 29
>>
>> That is one end of the range, troller:
>>
>>
>> Key Stroke Mortality Statistics (Latest ABS & AIHW Data)
>>
>> • Total Deaths: Stroke claimed 9,147 lives in Australia in 2024
>> (according to the Australian Bureau of Statistics Causes of Death
>> Report), or roughly 7,900–8,000+ depending on specific underlying-cause
>> vs. cerebrovascular classifications.
>> • Death Rate: The age-standardized stroke death rate sits at
>> approximately 29 to 34 per 100,000 population.
>>
> Rod Speed a annoying  Australian he can literally type faster than you
> can talk, let alone type!

Indeed.

> Best to ignore or he will continue to bait you with his BS droppings.
> Rarely goes with a constructive flow

He craves conflict and argumentation, and little more, true.

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#102489

|On 10/13/26 12:16 PM, Petzl wrote:
|...
|> Rod Speed a annoying  Australian he can literally type faster than you
|> can talk, let alone type!
|Indeed.
|> Best to ignore or he will continue to bait you with his BS droppings.
|> Rarely goes with a constructive flow
|He craves conflict and argumentation, and little more, true.

Rod may be only 1% aware of his surroundings incl self-aware
but some comment on aus.pol or s.c.a back in the 90s has led by
one way or another to some of today's AI tools.

Back then someone complained there should be a "rodbot" that
followed his guiding 90/10 principle -- 90% of his output is one of
his 10 favourite sayings -- and that let to the (in some circles)
infamous "rodbot", that let in turn to "MrPostingRobot" that ran
out of La Trobe's EE for some years entertaining aus.pol and some other
groups with what some people characterised as "socialist drivel",
and that seems to have led to some other chatbots that follow the
same kind of methodology, namely convert whatever they are fed into
a google search, cull through the answers with a scoring function
created by ML techniques, edit the best results lightly, and spit them 
back out.

--
kaggle.com/kymhorsell1

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