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Re: Federal Prisons Are Beginning to Force Trans Inmates Off Hormone Therapy

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  Re: Federal Prisons Are Beginning to Force Trans Inmates Off Hormone Therapy zendejo <zd@no.here> - 2026-05-22 14:06 -0600
    Re: Federal Prisons Are Beginning to Force Trans Inmates Off Hormone Therapy Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-05-22 20:24 +0000
      Re: Federal Prisons Are Beginning to Force Trans Inmates Off Hormone Therapy zendejo <zd@no.here> - 2026-05-22 15:01 -0600
        Re: Federal Prisons Are Beginning to Force Trans Inmates Off Hormone Therapy Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-05-22 21:24 +0000
          Re: Federal Prisons Are Beginning to Force Trans Inmates Off Hormone Therapy phoenix <j63840576@gmail.com> - 2026-05-22 15:26 -0600
            Re: Federal Prisons Are Beginning to Force Trans Inmates Off Hormone Therapy Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-05-22 21:32 +0000
              Re: Federal Prisons Are Beginning to Force Trans Inmates Off Hormone Therapy zendejo <zd@no.here> - 2026-05-22 16:37 -0600
                Re: Federal Prisons Are Beginning to Force Trans Inmates Off Hormone Therapy Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-05-22 22:39 +0000
                  Re: Federal Prisons Are Beginning to Force Trans Inmates Off Hormone Therapy zendejo <zd@no.here> - 2026-05-22 16:44 -0600
            Re: Federal Prisons Are Beginning to Force Trans Inmates Off Hormone Therapy zendejo <zd@no.here> - 2026-05-22 16:35 -0600
              Re: Federal Prisons Are Beginning to Force Trans Inmates Off Hormone Therapy Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-05-22 22:39 +0000
                Re: Federal Prisons Are Beginning to Force Trans Inmates Off Hormone Therapy zendejo <zd@no.here> - 2026-05-22 16:46 -0600
                  Re: Federal Prisons Are Beginning to Force Trans Inmates Off Hormone Therapy phoenix <j63840576@gmail.com> - 2026-05-22 17:23 -0600
                    Re: Federal Prisons Are Beginning to Force Trans Inmates Off Hormone Therapy zendejo <zd@no.here> - 2026-05-23 09:17 -0600
                  Re: Federal Prisons Are Beginning to Force Trans Inmates Off Hormone Therapy Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-05-22 23:28 +0000
                    Re: Federal Prisons Are Beginning to Force Trans Inmates Off Hormone Therapy zendejo <zd@no.here> - 2026-05-23 09:20 -0600
                      Re: Federal Prisons Are Beginning to Force Trans Inmates Off Hormone Therapy Brock McNuggets <Brock.McNuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-05-23 16:35 +0000
                        Re: Federal Prisons Are Beginning to Force Trans Inmates Off Hormone Therapy zendejo <zd@no.here> - 2026-05-23 10:42 -0600
                        Re: Federal Prisons Are Beginning to Force Trans Inmates Off Hormone Therapy Brock McNuggets <Brock.McNuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-05-23 16:54 +0000
                          Re: Federal Prisons Are Beginning to Force Trans Inmates Off Hormone Therapy zendejo <zd@no.here> - 2026-05-23 12:27 -0600
                  Re: Federal Prisons Are Beginning to Force Trans Inmates Off Hormone Therapy chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2026-05-23 04:53 -0500
                    Re: Federal Prisons Are Beginning to Force Trans Inmates Off Hormone Therapy zendejo <zd@no.here> - 2026-05-23 09:24 -0600
              Re: Federal Prisons Are Beginning to Force Trans Inmates Off Hormone Therapy phoenix <j63840576@gmail.com> - 2026-05-22 17:22 -0600
                Re: Federal Prisons Are Beginning to Force Trans Inmates Off Hormone Therapy zendejo <zd@no.here> - 2026-05-23 09:16 -0600
          Re: Federal Prisons Are Beginning to Force Trans Inmates Off Hormone Therapy zendejo <zd@no.here> - 2026-05-22 16:32 -0600
            Re: Federal Prisons Are Beginning to Force Trans Inmates Off Hormone Therapy Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-05-22 22:42 +0000
              Re: Federal Prisons Are Beginning to Force Trans Inmates Off Hormone Therapy phoenix <j63840576@gmail.com> - 2026-05-22 17:57 -0600
                Re: Federal Prisons Are Beginning to Force Trans Inmates Off Hormone Therapy Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-05-23 01:51 +0000
                  Re: Federal Prisons Are Beginning to Force Trans Inmates Off Hormone Therapy zendejo <zd@no.here> - 2026-05-23 09:23 -0600
                Re: Federal Prisons Are Beginning to Force Trans Inmates Off Hormone Therapy zendejo <zd@no.here> - 2026-05-23 09:21 -0600
              Re: Federal Prisons Are Beginning to Force Trans Inmates Off Hormone Therapy zendejo <zd@no.here> - 2026-05-23 09:12 -0600

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#101797

Fromchrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid>
Date2026-05-23 04:53 -0500
Message-ID<jit21l9hepi2ki5krulu9mh6r5ia1en4q7@4ax.com>
In reply to#101791
zendejo wrote:

>"It's worth it to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every
>single year so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our 
>other God-given rights... That is a prudent deal. It is rational."

It's issues like this that separate intelligent people from stupid,
ignorant people.

Where there is life, there is disease.  Where there are jobs, there is
unemployment.  Where there is sexual reproduction, there is rejection.
Where there is freedom, there is crime.

All of these situations behave like markets.  In all markets, some
small fraction _must_ be "left out".  Tyranny is not the answer.

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#101805

Fromzendejo <zd@no.here>
Date2026-05-23 09:24 -0600
Message-ID<6a11c742$0$24$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>
In reply to#101797
On 5/23/26 3:53 AM, chrisv wrote:
> zendejo wrote:
> 
>> "It's worth it to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every
>> single year so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our
>> other God-given rights... That is a prudent deal. It is rational."
> 
> It's issues like this that separate intelligent people from stupid,
> ignorant people.
> 
> Where there is life, there is disease.  Where there are jobs, there is
> unemployment.  Where there is sexual reproduction, there is rejection.
> Where there is freedom, there is crime.
> 
> All of these situations behave like markets.  In all markets, some
> small fraction _must_ be "left out".  Tyranny is not the answer.
> 
Indeed.

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#101792

Fromphoenix <j63840576@gmail.com>
Date2026-05-22 17:22 -0600
Message-ID<n7c6otFcniiU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#101784
zendejo wrote:
> On 5/22/26 3:26 PM, phoenix wrote:
>> Brock McNuggets wrote:
>>> On May 22, 2026 at 2:01:10 PM MST, "zendejo" wrote
>>> <6a10c416$0$23$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:
>>>
>>>> On 5/22/26 2:24 PM, Brock McNuggets wrote:
>>>>> On May 22, 2026 at 1:06:40 PM MST, "zendejo" wrote
>>>>> <6a10b751$0$22$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 5/22/26 1:54 PM, Brock McNuggets wrote:
>>>>>>> On May 22, 2026 at 12:43:03 PM MST, "zendejo" wrote
>>>>>>> <6a10b1c7$0$22$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 5/22/26 11:35 AM, chrisv wrote:
>>>>>>>>> phoenix wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> zendejo wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>      chrisv wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Charlie Kirk "accepted" the alphabet crowd, he just rejected 
>>>>>>>>>>>> their
>>>>>>>>>>>> lies, and rightly so.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> And then:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> https://rumble.com/v7a7lpg-revealed-who-told-this-dude-to- 
>>>>>>>>>>> pave-over-the-charlie-kirk-assassination-cri.html? 
>>>>>>>>>>> mref=1htl22&mc=e16nv
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If Charlie Kirk accepted the alphabet crowd, then why did 
>>>>>>>>>> Stephen King
>>>>>>>>>> say that Charlie Kirk wanted to stone gays?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Only a friggen idiot would offer up such unsubstantiated 
>>>>>>>>> hearsay, in a
>>>>>>>>> debate.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "This guy said that some other guy said that Charlie Kirk said..."
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sheesh.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Leftists *lie* about all kinds of things!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There is no truth in them at all, just none.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Neither side is perfect -- by far -- but in general liberals side 
>>>>>>> more with
>>>>>>> evidence. This is true on climate,
>>>>>> Again you are in denial of reality, something even the climate 
>>>>>> liars had
>>>>>> to abandon recently:
>>>>>
>>>>> Notice your link does not back your claim. As was already discussed.
>>>>
>>>> There was no "discussion" nor need there be.
>>>>
>>>> You bored Snit?
>>>
>>> No support from you.
>>>
>> zendejo is apparently trying to claim victory in the conversation 
>> merely because he wrote the most posts. I'm about to show him it's 
>> about quality over quantity.
>>
> 
> Thomas Jefferson to William Smith
> Paris Nov. 13. 1787.
> 
> persevering lying. the British ministry have so long hired their 
> gazetteers to repeat and model into every form lies about our being in 
> anarchy, that the world has at length believed them, the English nation 
> has believed them, the ministers themselves have come to believe them, & 
> what is more wonderful, we have believed them ourselves. yet where does 
> this anarchy exist? where did it ever exist, except in the single 
> instance of Massachusets? and can history produce an instance of a 
> rebellion so honourably conducted? I say nothing of it's motives. they 
> were founded in ignorance, not wickedness. god forbid we should ever be 
> 20 years without such a rebellion. the people cannot be all, & always, 
> well informed. the part which is wrong will be discontented in 
> proportion to the importance of the facts they misconceive; if they 
> remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner 
> of death to the public liberty. we have had 13. states independant 11. 
> years. there has been one rebellion. that comes to one rebellion in a 
> century & a half for each state. what country before ever existed a 
> century & half without a rebellion? & what country can preserve it's 
> liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their 
> people preserve the spirit of resistance? let them take arms. the remedy 
> is to set them right as to facts, pardon & pacify them. what signify a 
> few lives lost in a century or two? the tree of liberty must be 
> refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. it is 
> it's natural manure

All men fall short of the glory of God, such as Thomas Jefferson, exhibit 1.

I noticed you're more of the fire and brimstone type. You're the 
opposite of CrudeSausage and put too much emphasis on the Old Testament, 
which is why I do not expect you to change.

-- 
War in the east
War in the west
War up north
War down south
War War

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#101800

Fromzendejo <zd@no.here>
Date2026-05-23 09:16 -0600
Message-ID<6a11c73a$1$24$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>
In reply to#101792
On 5/22/26 5:22 PM, phoenix wrote:
> zendejo wrote:
>> On 5/22/26 3:26 PM, phoenix wrote:
>>> Brock McNuggets wrote:
>>>> On May 22, 2026 at 2:01:10 PM MST, "zendejo" wrote
>>>> <6a10c416$0$23$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:
>>>>
>>>>> On 5/22/26 2:24 PM, Brock McNuggets wrote:
>>>>>> On May 22, 2026 at 1:06:40 PM MST, "zendejo" wrote
>>>>>> <6a10b751$0$22$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 5/22/26 1:54 PM, Brock McNuggets wrote:
>>>>>>>> On May 22, 2026 at 12:43:03 PM MST, "zendejo" wrote
>>>>>>>> <6a10b1c7$0$22$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 5/22/26 11:35 AM, chrisv wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> phoenix wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> zendejo wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>      chrisv wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Charlie Kirk "accepted" the alphabet crowd, he just 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> rejected their
>>>>>>>>>>>>> lies, and rightly so.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> And then:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://rumble.com/v7a7lpg-revealed-who-told-this-dude-to- 
>>>>>>>>>>>> pave-over-the-charlie-kirk-assassination-cri.html? 
>>>>>>>>>>>> mref=1htl22&mc=e16nv
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> If Charlie Kirk accepted the alphabet crowd, then why did 
>>>>>>>>>>> Stephen King
>>>>>>>>>>> say that Charlie Kirk wanted to stone gays?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Only a friggen idiot would offer up such unsubstantiated 
>>>>>>>>>> hearsay, in a
>>>>>>>>>> debate.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "This guy said that some other guy said that Charlie Kirk 
>>>>>>>>>> said..."
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Sheesh.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Leftists *lie* about all kinds of things!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> There is no truth in them at all, just none.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Neither side is perfect -- by far -- but in general liberals 
>>>>>>>> side more with
>>>>>>>> evidence. This is true on climate,
>>>>>>> Again you are in denial of reality, something even the climate 
>>>>>>> liars had
>>>>>>> to abandon recently:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Notice your link does not back your claim. As was already discussed.
>>>>>
>>>>> There was no "discussion" nor need there be.
>>>>>
>>>>> You bored Snit?
>>>>
>>>> No support from you.
>>>>
>>> zendejo is apparently trying to claim victory in the conversation 
>>> merely because he wrote the most posts. I'm about to show him it's 
>>> about quality over quantity.
>>>
>>
>> Thomas Jefferson to William Smith
>> Paris Nov. 13. 1787.
>>
>> persevering lying. the British ministry have so long hired their 
>> gazetteers to repeat and model into every form lies about our being in 
>> anarchy, that the world has at length believed them, the English 
>> nation has believed them, the ministers themselves have come to 
>> believe them, & what is more wonderful, we have believed them 
>> ourselves. yet where does this anarchy exist? where did it ever exist, 
>> except in the single instance of Massachusets? and can history produce 
>> an instance of a rebellion so honourably conducted? I say nothing of 
>> it's motives. they were founded in ignorance, not wickedness. god 
>> forbid we should ever be 20 years without such a rebellion. the people 
>> cannot be all, & always, well informed. the part which is wrong will 
>> be discontented in proportion to the importance of the facts they 
>> misconceive; if they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a 
>> lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty. we have had 
>> 13. states independant 11. years. there has been one rebellion. that 
>> comes to one rebellion in a century & a half for each state. what 
>> country before ever existed a century & half without a rebellion? & 
>> what country can preserve it's liberties if their rulers are not 
>> warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of 
>> resistance? let them take arms. the remedy is to set them right as to 
>> facts, pardon & pacify them. what signify a few lives lost in a 
>> century or two? the tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to 
>> time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. it is it's natural manure
> 
> All men fall short of the glory of God, such as Thomas Jefferson, 
> exhibit 1.

That's theology 101- so?

> I noticed you're more of the fire and brimstone type. You're the 
> opposite of CrudeSausage and put too much emphasis on the Old Testament, 
> which is why I do not expect you to change.

I find the Apocrypha and the Gospel of Thomas seminal nutrients, 
spiritually.

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#101783

Fromzendejo <zd@no.here>
Date2026-05-22 16:32 -0600
Message-ID<6a10d965$0$18$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>
In reply to#101779
On 5/22/26 3:24 PM, Brock McNuggets wrote:
> On May 22, 2026 at 2:01:10 PM MST, "zendejo" wrote
> <6a10c416$0$23$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:
> 
>> On 5/22/26 2:24 PM, Brock McNuggets wrote:
>>> On May 22, 2026 at 1:06:40 PM MST, "zendejo" wrote
>>> <6a10b751$0$22$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:
>>>
>>>> On 5/22/26 1:54 PM, Brock McNuggets wrote:
>>>>> On May 22, 2026 at 12:43:03 PM MST, "zendejo" wrote
>>>>> <6a10b1c7$0$22$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 5/22/26 11:35 AM, chrisv wrote:
>>>>>>> phoenix wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> zendejo wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>      chrisv wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Charlie Kirk "accepted" the alphabet crowd, he just rejected their
>>>>>>>>>> lies, and rightly so.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> And then:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://rumble.com/v7a7lpg-revealed-who-told-this-dude-to-pave-over-the-charlie-kirk-assassination-cri.html?mref=1htl22&mc=e16nv
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If Charlie Kirk accepted the alphabet crowd, then why did Stephen King
>>>>>>>> say that Charlie Kirk wanted to stone gays?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Only a friggen idiot would offer up such unsubstantiated hearsay, in a
>>>>>>> debate.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "This guy said that some other guy said that Charlie Kirk said..."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sheesh.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Leftists *lie* about all kinds of things!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> There is no truth in them at all, just none.
>>>>>
>>>>> Neither side is perfect -- by far -- but in general liberals side more with
>>>>> evidence. This is true on climate,
>>>> Again you are in denial of reality, something even the climate liars had
>>>> to abandon recently:
>>>
>>> Notice your link does not back your claim. As was already discussed.
>>
>> There was no "discussion" nor need there be.
>>
>> You bored Snit?
> 
> No support from you.
> 

Thomas Jefferson to William Smith
Paris Nov. 13. 1787.

persevering lying. the British ministry have so long hired their 
gazetteers to repeat and model into every form lies about our being in 
anarchy, that the world has at length believed them, the English nation 
has believed them, the ministers themselves have come to believe them, & 
what is more wonderful, we have believed them ourselves. yet where does 
this anarchy exist? where did it ever exist, except in the single 
instance of Massachusets? and can history produce an instance of a 
rebellion so honourably conducted? I say nothing of it's motives. they 
were founded in ignorance, not wickedness. god forbid we should ever be 
20 years without such a rebellion. the people cannot be all, & always, 
well informed. the part which is wrong will be discontented in 
proportion to the importance of the facts they misconceive; if they 
remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner 
of death to the public liberty. we have had 13. states independant 11. 
years. there has been one rebellion. that comes to one rebellion in a 
century & a half for each state. what country before ever existed a 
century & half without a rebellion? & what country can preserve it's 
liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their 
people preserve the spirit of resistance? let them take arms. the remedy 
is to set them right as to facts, pardon & pacify them. what signify a 
few lives lost in a century or two? the tree of liberty must be 
refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. it is 
it's natural manure>

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#101788

FromBrock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com>
Date2026-05-22 22:42 +0000
Message-ID<6a10dbc8$0$27$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>
In reply to#101783
On May 22, 2026 at 3:32:05 PM MST, "zendejo" wrote
<6a10d965$0$18$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:

> On 5/22/26 3:24 PM, Brock McNuggets wrote:
>> On May 22, 2026 at 2:01:10 PM MST, "zendejo" wrote
>> <6a10c416$0$23$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:
>> 
>>> On 5/22/26 2:24 PM, Brock McNuggets wrote:
>>>> On May 22, 2026 at 1:06:40 PM MST, "zendejo" wrote
>>>> <6a10b751$0$22$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:
>>>> 
>>>>> On 5/22/26 1:54 PM, Brock McNuggets wrote:
>>>>>> On May 22, 2026 at 12:43:03 PM MST, "zendejo" wrote
>>>>>> <6a10b1c7$0$22$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 5/22/26 11:35 AM, chrisv wrote:
>>>>>>>> phoenix wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> zendejo wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>      chrisv wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Charlie Kirk "accepted" the alphabet crowd, he just rejected their
>>>>>>>>>>> lies, and rightly so.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> And then:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> https://rumble.com/v7a7lpg-revealed-who-told-this-dude-to-pave-over-the-charlie-kirk-assassination-cri.html?mref=1htl22&mc=e16nv
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> If Charlie Kirk accepted the alphabet crowd, then why did Stephen King
>>>>>>>>> say that Charlie Kirk wanted to stone gays?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Only a friggen idiot would offer up such unsubstantiated hearsay, in a
>>>>>>>> debate.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> "This guy said that some other guy said that Charlie Kirk said..."
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Sheesh.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Leftists *lie* about all kinds of things!
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> There is no truth in them at all, just none.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Neither side is perfect -- by far -- but in general liberals side more with
>>>>>> evidence. This is true on climate,
>>>>> Again you are in denial of reality, something even the climate liars had
>>>>> to abandon recently:
>>>> 
>>>> Notice your link does not back your claim. As was already discussed.
>>> 
>>> There was no "discussion" nor need there be.
>>> 
>>> You bored Snit?
>> 
>> No support from you.
>> 
> 
> Thomas Jefferson to William Smith
> Paris Nov. 13. 1787.
> 
> persevering lying. the British ministry have so long hired their
> gazetteers to repeat and model into every form lies about our being in
> anarchy, that the world has at length believed them, the English nation
> has believed them, the ministers themselves have come to believe them, &
> what is more wonderful, we have believed them ourselves. yet where does
> this anarchy exist? where did it ever exist, except in the single
> instance of Massachusets? and can history produce an instance of a
> rebellion so honourably conducted? I say nothing of it's motives. they
> were founded in ignorance, not wickedness. god forbid we should ever be
> 20 years without such a rebellion. the people cannot be all, & always,
> well informed. the part which is wrong will be discontented in
> proportion to the importance of the facts they misconceive; if they
> remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner
> of death to the public liberty. we have had 13. states independant 11.
> years. there has been one rebellion. that comes to one rebellion in a
> century & a half for each state. what country before ever existed a
> century & half without a rebellion? & what country can preserve it's
> liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their
> people preserve the spirit of resistance? let them take arms. the remedy
> is to set them right as to facts, pardon & pacify them. what signify a
> few lives lost in a century or two? the tree of liberty must be
> refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. it is
> it's natural manure>

what you are running from:

1 "It's worth it to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every
single year so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our other
God-given rights... That is a prudent deal. It is rational."

2 "I can't stand the word empathy, actually. I think empathy is a made-up, new
age term that does a lot of damage."

3 "Birth control really screws up female brains, by the way... It increases
depression, anxiety, and suicidal ideation."

4 "If I see a Black pilot, I'm going to be like, boy, I hope he's qualified."

5 "We made a huge mistake when we passed the Civil Rights Act in the 1960s."

6 "Diversity is not our strength."

7 "The one issue I think that is so against our senses, so against the natural
law, and dare I say, a throbbing middle finger to God, is the transgender
thing happening in America right now."

8 "Some of the largest financiers of left-wing, anti-white causes have been
Jewish Americans ... Jews had been the No. 1 funding mechanism of radical,
open border neoliberal quasi-Marxist policies..."

9 "There is no separation of church and state. It's a fabrication, it's a
fiction, it's not in the Constitution. It's made up by secular humanists."

10 "The great replacement strategy, which is well under way every single day
in our southern border, is a strategy to replace white rural America with
something different."

11 "America was at its peak when we halted immigration for 40 years and we
dropped our foreign-born percentage to its lowest level ever. We should be
unafraid to do that."

12 "The American Democrat party hates this country. They wanna see it
collapse. They love it when America becomes less white."

13 "America has freedom of religion, of course, but we should be frank: large
dedicated Islamic areas are a threat to America."

14 "Masks are about submission, not science."

15 "The one issue with the so-called transgender movement is the same as the
one with gender identity--that if you stop being a man then maybe you could
stop being a human being."


-- 
It's impossible for someone who is at war with themselves to be at peace with you.

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#101795

Fromphoenix <j63840576@gmail.com>
Date2026-05-22 17:57 -0600
Message-ID<n7c8s9Fd3q4U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#101788
Brock McNuggets wrote:
> On May 22, 2026 at 3:32:05 PM MST, "zendejo" wrote
> <6a10d965$0$18$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:
> 
>> On 5/22/26 3:24 PM, Brock McNuggets wrote:
>>> On May 22, 2026 at 2:01:10 PM MST, "zendejo" wrote
>>> <6a10c416$0$23$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:
>>>
>>>> On 5/22/26 2:24 PM, Brock McNuggets wrote:
>>>>> On May 22, 2026 at 1:06:40 PM MST, "zendejo" wrote
>>>>> <6a10b751$0$22$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 5/22/26 1:54 PM, Brock McNuggets wrote:
>>>>>>> On May 22, 2026 at 12:43:03 PM MST, "zendejo" wrote
>>>>>>> <6a10b1c7$0$22$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 5/22/26 11:35 AM, chrisv wrote:
>>>>>>>>> phoenix wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> zendejo wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>       chrisv wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Charlie Kirk "accepted" the alphabet crowd, he just rejected their
>>>>>>>>>>>> lies, and rightly so.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> And then:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> https://rumble.com/v7a7lpg-revealed-who-told-this-dude-to-pave-over-the-charlie-kirk-assassination-cri.html?mref=1htl22&mc=e16nv
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If Charlie Kirk accepted the alphabet crowd, then why did Stephen King
>>>>>>>>>> say that Charlie Kirk wanted to stone gays?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Only a friggen idiot would offer up such unsubstantiated hearsay, in a
>>>>>>>>> debate.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "This guy said that some other guy said that Charlie Kirk said..."
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sheesh.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Leftists *lie* about all kinds of things!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There is no truth in them at all, just none.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Neither side is perfect -- by far -- but in general liberals side more with
>>>>>>> evidence. This is true on climate,
>>>>>> Again you are in denial of reality, something even the climate liars had
>>>>>> to abandon recently:
>>>>>
>>>>> Notice your link does not back your claim. As was already discussed.
>>>>
>>>> There was no "discussion" nor need there be.
>>>>
>>>> You bored Snit?
>>>
>>> No support from you.
>>>
>>
>> Thomas Jefferson to William Smith
>> Paris Nov. 13. 1787.
>>
>> persevering lying. the British ministry have so long hired their
>> gazetteers to repeat and model into every form lies about our being in
>> anarchy, that the world has at length believed them, the English nation
>> has believed them, the ministers themselves have come to believe them, &
>> what is more wonderful, we have believed them ourselves. yet where does
>> this anarchy exist? where did it ever exist, except in the single
>> instance of Massachusets? and can history produce an instance of a
>> rebellion so honourably conducted? I say nothing of it's motives. they
>> were founded in ignorance, not wickedness. god forbid we should ever be
>> 20 years without such a rebellion. the people cannot be all, & always,
>> well informed. the part which is wrong will be discontented in
>> proportion to the importance of the facts they misconceive; if they
>> remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner
>> of death to the public liberty. we have had 13. states independant 11.
>> years. there has been one rebellion. that comes to one rebellion in a
>> century & a half for each state. what country before ever existed a
>> century & half without a rebellion? & what country can preserve it's
>> liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their
>> people preserve the spirit of resistance? let them take arms. the remedy
>> is to set them right as to facts, pardon & pacify them. what signify a
>> few lives lost in a century or two? the tree of liberty must be
>> refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. it is
>> it's natural manure>
> 
> what you are running from:
> 
> 1 "It's worth it to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every
> single year so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our other
> God-given rights... That is a prudent deal. It is rational."
> 
> 2 "I can't stand the word empathy, actually. I think empathy is a made-up, new
> age term that does a lot of damage."
> 
> 3 "Birth control really screws up female brains, by the way... It increases
> depression, anxiety, and suicidal ideation."
> 
> 4 "If I see a Black pilot, I'm going to be like, boy, I hope he's qualified."
> 
> 5 "We made a huge mistake when we passed the Civil Rights Act in the 1960s."
> 
> 6 "Diversity is not our strength."
> 
> 7 "The one issue I think that is so against our senses, so against the natural
> law, and dare I say, a throbbing middle finger to God, is the transgender
> thing happening in America right now."
> 
> 8 "Some of the largest financiers of left-wing, anti-white causes have been
> Jewish Americans ... Jews had been the No. 1 funding mechanism of radical,
> open border neoliberal quasi-Marxist policies..."
> 
> 9 "There is no separation of church and state. It's a fabrication, it's a
> fiction, it's not in the Constitution. It's made up by secular humanists."
> 
> 10 "The great replacement strategy, which is well under way every single day
> in our southern border, is a strategy to replace white rural America with
> something different."
> 
> 11 "America was at its peak when we halted immigration for 40 years and we
> dropped our foreign-born percentage to its lowest level ever. We should be
> unafraid to do that."
> 
> 12 "The American Democrat party hates this country. They wanna see it
> collapse. They love it when America becomes less white."
> 
> 13 "America has freedom of religion, of course, but we should be frank: large
> dedicated Islamic areas are a threat to America."
> 
> 14 "Masks are about submission, not science."
> 
> 15 "The one issue with the so-called transgender movement is the same as the
> one with gender identity--that if you stop being a man then maybe you could
> stop being a human being."
> 
> 
This conversation has been shrinking in size. Most guys can see zendejo 
is an unhinged pendejo, but the guys arguing for his crazed ideals 
cannot see it as he tends to support them. It's a shame there are people 
like zendejo on the 'Net. I'm sure he has no friends in real life.

Thomas Jefferson should shut his mouth. Uncouth men talk about 'blood' 
as if it should flow all over. He doesn't realize that blood is 
sacrosanct and not for a politician such as him to speak of.

I intend to stick it out a bit longer however distasteful it may be in 
the flood of zendejo and CrudeSausage's sewage. Although chrisv enjoys 
lying he does not invoke the name of the Lord as badly as those two do. 
You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain. I would enjoy 
it if those two remember that Commandment as they stand around and 
preach Jesus here. The reason I will stick it out is because men such as 
them don't get t take my apology and try to make me eat it. In good 
faith I apologized and those two tried to stuff it back in my mouth with 
zendejo even ratting it to the FBI of all people. zendejo has said many 
more regrettable things here than I will this entire week.

They can stand around and do that and even underestimate me as they 
have, but I have a much stronger will than shitass zendejo will give me 
credit for. It is regrettable too that I had to meet him. "Some people 
come into your life as blessings, others as lessons." — Mother Teresa

-- 
War in the east
War in the west
War up north
War down south
War War

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#101796

FromBrock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com>
Date2026-05-23 01:51 +0000
Message-ID<6a110812$0$21$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>
In reply to#101795
On May 22, 2026 at 4:57:59 PM MST, "phoenix" wrote
<n7c8s9Fd3q4U1@mid.individual.net>:

> Brock McNuggets wrote:
>> On May 22, 2026 at 3:32:05 PM MST, "zendejo" wrote
>> <6a10d965$0$18$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:
>> 
>>> On 5/22/26 3:24 PM, Brock McNuggets wrote:
>>>> On May 22, 2026 at 2:01:10 PM MST, "zendejo" wrote
>>>> <6a10c416$0$23$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:
>>>> 
>>>>> On 5/22/26 2:24 PM, Brock McNuggets wrote:
>>>>>> On May 22, 2026 at 1:06:40 PM MST, "zendejo" wrote
>>>>>> <6a10b751$0$22$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 5/22/26 1:54 PM, Brock McNuggets wrote:
>>>>>>>> On May 22, 2026 at 12:43:03 PM MST, "zendejo" wrote
>>>>>>>> <6a10b1c7$0$22$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 5/22/26 11:35 AM, chrisv wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> phoenix wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> zendejo wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>       chrisv wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Charlie Kirk "accepted" the alphabet crowd, he just rejected their
>>>>>>>>>>>>> lies, and rightly so.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> And then:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://rumble.com/v7a7lpg-revealed-who-told-this-dude-to-pave-over-the-charlie-kirk-assassination-cri.html?mref=1htl22&mc=e16nv
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> If Charlie Kirk accepted the alphabet crowd, then why did Stephen King
>>>>>>>>>>> say that Charlie Kirk wanted to stone gays?
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Only a friggen idiot would offer up such unsubstantiated hearsay, in a
>>>>>>>>>> debate.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> "This guy said that some other guy said that Charlie Kirk said..."
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Sheesh.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Leftists *lie* about all kinds of things!
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> There is no truth in them at all, just none.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Neither side is perfect -- by far -- but in general liberals side more with
>>>>>>>> evidence. This is true on climate,
>>>>>>> Again you are in denial of reality, something even the climate liars had
>>>>>>> to abandon recently:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Notice your link does not back your claim. As was already discussed.
>>>>> 
>>>>> There was no "discussion" nor need there be.
>>>>> 
>>>>> You bored Snit?
>>>> 
>>>> No support from you.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thomas Jefferson to William Smith
>>> Paris Nov. 13. 1787.
>>> 
>>> persevering lying. the British ministry have so long hired their
>>> gazetteers to repeat and model into every form lies about our being in
>>> anarchy, that the world has at length believed them, the English nation
>>> has believed them, the ministers themselves have come to believe them, &
>>> what is more wonderful, we have believed them ourselves. yet where does
>>> this anarchy exist? where did it ever exist, except in the single
>>> instance of Massachusets? and can history produce an instance of a
>>> rebellion so honourably conducted? I say nothing of it's motives. they
>>> were founded in ignorance, not wickedness. god forbid we should ever be
>>> 20 years without such a rebellion. the people cannot be all, & always,
>>> well informed. the part which is wrong will be discontented in
>>> proportion to the importance of the facts they misconceive; if they
>>> remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner
>>> of death to the public liberty. we have had 13. states independant 11.
>>> years. there has been one rebellion. that comes to one rebellion in a
>>> century & a half for each state. what country before ever existed a
>>> century & half without a rebellion? & what country can preserve it's
>>> liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their
>>> people preserve the spirit of resistance? let them take arms. the remedy
>>> is to set them right as to facts, pardon & pacify them. what signify a
>>> few lives lost in a century or two? the tree of liberty must be
>>> refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. it is
>>> it's natural manure>
>> 
>> what you are running from:
>> 
>> 1 "It's worth it to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every
>> single year so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our other
>> God-given rights... That is a prudent deal. It is rational."
>> 
>> 2 "I can't stand the word empathy, actually. I think empathy is a made-up, new
>> age term that does a lot of damage."
>> 
>> 3 "Birth control really screws up female brains, by the way... It increases
>> depression, anxiety, and suicidal ideation."
>> 
>> 4 "If I see a Black pilot, I'm going to be like, boy, I hope he's qualified."
>> 
>> 5 "We made a huge mistake when we passed the Civil Rights Act in the 1960s."
>> 
>> 6 "Diversity is not our strength."
>> 
>> 7 "The one issue I think that is so against our senses, so against the natural
>> law, and dare I say, a throbbing middle finger to God, is the transgender
>> thing happening in America right now."
>> 
>> 8 "Some of the largest financiers of left-wing, anti-white causes have been
>> Jewish Americans ... Jews had been the No. 1 funding mechanism of radical,
>> open border neoliberal quasi-Marxist policies..."
>> 
>> 9 "There is no separation of church and state. It's a fabrication, it's a
>> fiction, it's not in the Constitution. It's made up by secular humanists."
>> 
>> 10 "The great replacement strategy, which is well under way every single day
>> in our southern border, is a strategy to replace white rural America with
>> something different."
>> 
>> 11 "America was at its peak when we halted immigration for 40 years and we
>> dropped our foreign-born percentage to its lowest level ever. We should be
>> unafraid to do that."
>> 
>> 12 "The American Democrat party hates this country. They wanna see it
>> collapse. They love it when America becomes less white."
>> 
>> 13 "America has freedom of religion, of course, but we should be frank: large
>> dedicated Islamic areas are a threat to America."
>> 
>> 14 "Masks are about submission, not science."
>> 
>> 15 "The one issue with the so-called transgender movement is the same as the
>> one with gender identity--that if you stop being a man then maybe you could
>> stop being a human being."
>> 
> This conversation has been shrinking in size. Most guys can see zendejo
> is an unhinged pendejo, but the guys arguing for his crazed ideals
> cannot see it as he tends to support them. It's a shame there are people
> like zendejo on the 'Net. I'm sure he has no friends in real life.

Sadly there are many like him... just lashing out with things they cannot
prove. I tend to reply to this type far more than I can defend. They get more
and more angry. In the end they get nastier and nastier and make up more and
more stories and insults. They know they cannot defend their views.
> 
> Thomas Jefferson should shut his mouth.

Well, he did long ago. :)

> Uncouth men talk about 'blood'
> as if it should flow all over. He doesn't realize that blood is
> sacrosanct and not for a politician such as him to speak of.
> 
> I intend to stick it out a bit longer however distasteful it may be in
> the flood of zendejo and CrudeSausage's sewage. Although chrisv enjoys
> lying he does not invoke the name of the Lord as badly as those two do.
> You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain. I would enjoy
> it if those two remember that Commandment as they stand around and
> preach Jesus here. The reason I will stick it out is because men such as
> them don't get t take my apology and try to make me eat it. In good
> faith I apologized and those two tried to stuff it back in my mouth with
> zendejo even ratting it to the FBI of all people. zendejo has said many
> more regrettable things here than I will this entire week.
> 
> They can stand around and do that and even underestimate me as they
> have, but I have a much stronger will than shitass zendejo will give me
> credit for. It is regrettable too that I had to meet him. "Some people
> come into your life as blessings, others as lessons." — Mother Teresa

I am not as bothered by the focus on "abuse" of religion, though I do find it
ironic. Religious or not, I think people can and should focus on equal rights
and evidence. Sadly the climate is changing to move more and more away from
that.


-- 
It's impossible for someone who is at war with themselves to be at peace with you.

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#101804

Fromzendejo <zd@no.here>
Date2026-05-23 09:23 -0600
Message-ID<6a11c740$1$24$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>
In reply to#101796
On 5/22/26 7:51 PM, Brock McNuggets wrote:
>> Thomas Jefferson should shut his mouth.
> Well, he did long ago. 🙂

Traitors to our republic canoodling, how droll.


"what country before ever existed a
century & half without a rebellion? & what country can preserve it's
liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their
people preserve the spirit of resistance? "

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#101803

Fromzendejo <zd@no.here>
Date2026-05-23 09:21 -0600
Message-ID<6a11c73f$0$24$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>
In reply to#101795
On 5/22/26 5:57 PM, phoenix wrote:
> Thomas Jefferson should shut his mouth. Uncouth men talk about 'blood' 
> as if it should flow all over. He doesn't realize that blood is 
> sacrosanct and not for a politician such as him to speak of.

He = framer.

You = homeless crank.


"what country before ever existed a
century & half without a rebellion? & what country can preserve it's
liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their
people preserve the spirit of resistance? "

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#101798

Fromzendejo <zd@no.here>
Date2026-05-23 09:12 -0600
Message-ID<6a11c739$0$24$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>
In reply to#101788
On 5/22/26 4:42 PM, Brock McNuggets wrote:
> On May 22, 2026 at 3:32:05 PM MST, "zendejo" wrote
> <6a10d965$0$18$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:
> 
>> On 5/22/26 3:24 PM, Brock McNuggets wrote:
>>> On May 22, 2026 at 2:01:10 PM MST, "zendejo" wrote
>>> <6a10c416$0$23$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:
>>>
>>>> On 5/22/26 2:24 PM, Brock McNuggets wrote:
>>>>> On May 22, 2026 at 1:06:40 PM MST, "zendejo" wrote
>>>>> <6a10b751$0$22$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 5/22/26 1:54 PM, Brock McNuggets wrote:
>>>>>>> On May 22, 2026 at 12:43:03 PM MST, "zendejo" wrote
>>>>>>> <6a10b1c7$0$22$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 5/22/26 11:35 AM, chrisv wrote:
>>>>>>>>> phoenix wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> zendejo wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>       chrisv wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Charlie Kirk "accepted" the alphabet crowd, he just rejected their
>>>>>>>>>>>> lies, and rightly so.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> And then:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> https://rumble.com/v7a7lpg-revealed-who-told-this-dude-to-pave-over-the-charlie-kirk-assassination-cri.html?mref=1htl22&mc=e16nv
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If Charlie Kirk accepted the alphabet crowd, then why did Stephen King
>>>>>>>>>> say that Charlie Kirk wanted to stone gays?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Only a friggen idiot would offer up such unsubstantiated hearsay, in a
>>>>>>>>> debate.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "This guy said that some other guy said that Charlie Kirk said..."
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sheesh.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Leftists *lie* about all kinds of things!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There is no truth in them at all, just none.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Neither side is perfect -- by far -- but in general liberals side more with
>>>>>>> evidence. This is true on climate,
>>>>>> Again you are in denial of reality, something even the climate liars had
>>>>>> to abandon recently:
>>>>>
>>>>> Notice your link does not back your claim. As was already discussed.
>>>>
>>>> There was no "discussion" nor need there be.
>>>>
>>>> You bored Snit?
>>>
>>> No support from you.
>>>
>>
>> Thomas Jefferson to William Smith
>> Paris Nov. 13. 1787.
>>
>> persevering lying. the British ministry have so long hired their
>> gazetteers to repeat and model into every form lies about our being in
>> anarchy, that the world has at length believed them, the English nation
>> has believed them, the ministers themselves have come to believe them, &
>> what is more wonderful, we have believed them ourselves. yet where does
>> this anarchy exist? where did it ever exist, except in the single
>> instance of Massachusets? and can history produce an instance of a
>> rebellion so honourably conducted? I say nothing of it's motives. they
>> were founded in ignorance, not wickedness. god forbid we should ever be
>> 20 years without such a rebellion. the people cannot be all, & always,
>> well informed. the part which is wrong will be discontented in
>> proportion to the importance of the facts they misconceive; if they
>> remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner
>> of death to the public liberty. we have had 13. states independant 11.
>> years. there has been one rebellion. that comes to one rebellion in a
>> century & a half for each state. what country before ever existed a
>> century & half without a rebellion? & what country can preserve it's
>> liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their
>> people preserve the spirit of resistance? let them take arms. the remedy
>> is to set them right as to facts, pardon & pacify them. what signify a
>> few lives lost in a century or two? the tree of liberty must be
>> refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. it is
>> it's natural manure>
> 
> what you are running from:

"what country before ever existed a
century & half without a rebellion? & what country can preserve it's
liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their
people preserve the spirit of resistance? "

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