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  Re: cultured butter Milo Trax <milo@tr.ax> - 2026-05-25 14:42 -0600
    Re: cultured butter Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-05-26 07:18 +1000
      Re: cultured butter "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-05-26 07:39 +1000
        Re: cultured butter Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-05-26 07:53 +1000
          Re: cultured butter "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-05-26 09:30 +1000
            Re: cultured butter Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-05-26 10:50 +1000
              Re: cultured butter "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-05-26 11:38 +1000
                Re: cultured butter Milo Trax <milo@tr.ax> - 2026-05-26 09:23 -0600
            Re: cultured butter Milo Trax <milo@tr.ax> - 2026-05-26 09:08 -0600
        Re: cultured butter phoenix <j63840576@gmail.com> - 2026-05-25 16:10 -0600
        Re: cultured butter Milo Trax <milo@tr.ax> - 2026-05-25 16:20 -0600
          Re: cultured butter "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-05-26 09:39 +1000
            Re: cultured butter Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-05-26 10:13 +1000
              Re: cultured butter "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-05-26 11:22 +1000
                Re: cultured butter Milo Trax <milo@tr.ax> - 2026-05-26 09:21 -0600
                  Re: cultured butter Ed P <esp@snet.n> - 2026-05-26 12:49 -0400
                    Re: cultured butter Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-05-27 12:18 +1000
              Re: cultured butter Milo Trax <milo@tr.ax> - 2026-05-26 09:12 -0600
                Re: cultured butter Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-05-27 12:19 +1000
            Re: cultured butter Milo Trax <milo@tr.ax> - 2026-05-26 09:09 -0600
      Re: cultured butter Milo Trax <milo@tr.ax> - 2026-05-25 16:09 -0600
        Re: cultured butter Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-05-26 08:22 +1000
          Re: cultured butter Milo Trax <milo@tr.ax> - 2026-05-25 16:56 -0600

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#101829 — Re: cultured butter

On Tue, 26 May 2026 05:40:41 +1000
Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Mon, 25 May 2026 10:03:27 -0600, Milo Trax <milo@tr.ax> wrote:
> 
> >> >
> >> >https://www.rd.com/list/moon-mysteries/
> >> >
> >> >https://www.planetary.org/articles/an-exquisite-cosmic-coincidence
> >> >    
> >> It migrated from Neptune
> >> good links  
> >
> >I think that tends to jibe with Veklikovsky's works:
> >
> >"Beyond Neptune
> >Velikovsky’s Framework: Velikovsky’s theories were
> >generally limited to the inner solar system, focusing on Jupiter as a
> >source of rogue comets or "proto-planets" that caused ancient
> >chaos.Modern Science: The region far beyond Neptune is known as the
> >Kuiper Belt, a vast expanse of icy bodies and dwarf planets left over
> >from the solar system's formation. Ongoing research at NASA Science
> >explores this region using spacecraft like New Horizons.
> >Additionally, modern astronomers track extreme trans-Neptunian
> >objects to search for "Planet Nine," a massive hypothetical world
> >residing on the outermost edges of our solar system."
> >   
> Book "Worlds in Collision"
> 
> Haven't heard that name for decades, interesting theories, Einstein
> once rubbished, but after Einstein's death he was found to have been
> reading a copy of "Worlds in Collision"
> A quick Google link
> <https://heritage-history.com/index.php?c=read&author=velikovsky&book=collision&story=stones>
>      https://tinyurl.com/27hxydcf
> 
> decades ago wrote this pre-Internet.
> Before the Internet, these kinds of alternative history ideas were
> incredibly popular in magazines, late-night radio shows, and
> paperbacks, and they often got blended together in public discussions.
> My  memory  captured the exact logic Velikovsky used—even if the
> specific timeline got swapped with the crucifixion story over the
> decades.
> Read on, McDuff..
> Velikovsky author who studied ancient languages found that on opposite
> sides of the earth at the time of Jesus's death found the sun was
> doing the opposite? (He believed it was caused by the alignment of the
> planets affecting the Earth)
> 
> Jesus's Crucifixion
> The sun never rose one side of the world while the other side of earth
> was recording sun never set at the same time?
> 
> Velikovsky admitted he was not an astronomer but concluded that the
> views of the "ancient" writings were showing Biblical events were
> being recorded by different cultures/continents with remarkable
> similarity (and wrote the book simply to raise the issue)
> 
> Also the hypothesis has never been THOROUGHLY discredited, I have no
> doubt much of it was, but parts of it have been accepted.
> Albert Einstein was also one knocker until the advent of radio
> telescopes suggesting Venus may well of once been a comet
> 
> What Velikovsky had done was employ the Bible and folklore and legends
> of ancient people to show that ancient man witnessed global
> catastrophes. His approach is similar to that of Georges Cuvier, the
> founder and father of the science of paleontology -- the study of
> fossils. Stephen Jay Gould, the well-known Harvard biologist and
> historian of science says this about Cuvier's method of employing the
> Bible and folklore and legends of ancient people to prove that there
> was a universal flood in ancient times. "

A very insightful analysis there, thx.

AI Overview               

Yes, Albert Einstein wrote the foreword for
Charles Hapgood's 1958 book, Earth's Shifting Crust.

Hapgood, an American history professor, proposed the controversial
"Earth crust displacement" theory, which suggested that the entire
outer shell of the Earth can occasionally slip over the inner layers,
causing rapid pole shifts and catastrophic climate changes.

Einstein's
Support

Einstein was heavily intrigued by Hapgood's hypothesis. In one
of his last professional acts before he died in 1955, Einstein
corresponded with Hapgood and agreed to write the book's introductory
foreword. In it, Einstein famously noted: "In any case, it would not be
justified to discard the idea a priori as adventurous," though he added
that his only doubt was whether the Earth's crust could actually move
easily enough over the inner layers.

Legacy

While the theory was largely
dismissed by mainstream geologists at the time (who later embraced
plate tectonics), Einstein's endorsement has kept Hapgood's work highly
popular in alternative history and paleontology circles, and it is
often cited in theories regarding a lost Antarctica. You can read the
original text in the Internet Archive Digital Copy of Earth's Shifting
Crust.

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#101830

On Mon, 25 May 2026 14:42:26 -0600, Milo Trax <milo@tr.ax> wrote:

>A very insightful analysis there, thx.
>
>AI Overview               
>
>Yes, Albert Einstein wrote the foreword for
>Charles Hapgood's 1958 book, Earth's Shifting Crust.
>
>Hapgood, an American history professor, proposed the controversial
>"Earth crust displacement" theory, which suggested that the entire
>outer shell of the Earth can occasionally slip over the inner layers,
>causing rapid pole shifts and catastrophic climate changes.
>
>Einstein's
>Support
>
>Einstein was heavily intrigued by Hapgood's hypothesis. In one
>of his last professional acts before he died in 1955, Einstein
>corresponded with Hapgood and agreed to write the book's introductory
>foreword. In it, Einstein famously noted: "In any case, it would not be
>justified to discard the idea a priori as adventurous," though he added
>that his only doubt was whether the Earth's crust could actually move
>easily enough over the inner layers.
>
>Legacy
>
>While the theory was largely
>dismissed by mainstream geologists at the time (who later embraced
>plate tectonics), Einstein's endorsement has kept Hapgood's work highly
>popular in alternative history and paleontology circles, and it is
>often cited in theories regarding a lost Antarctica. You can read the
>original text in the Internet Archive Digital Copy of Earth's Shifting
>Crust.
>
Don't know if it's a warning but AI is trying to take over media
around US$200 a year cheapest option
I use three only Google is so far free.
The other two Grok and Perplexity only allow so much data a day free.
I find Grok sizes you up pretty well and gives AI comments suiting
your slant on views, keeps one happy.
Most certainly more interesting than my AU$200 a year right slanted
Telegraph.
Might give them the flick and go to Perplexity.
https://www.perplexity.ai/
Doesn't go on and on like Grok does. for me a bit much
All are good

Trick with Grok is first read it's "conclusion" the last bit, but the
masses of other data will keep you reading for some time.

There is a chance AI can slant your mindset to propaganda beliefs?

Used to be the job of Jewish controlled media movies, etc.
-- 
Petzl
An evil enemy will from within, 
will burn his own nation to then rule over the ashes.
   Chinese military strategist Sun Tzu 
   (author of The Art of War), 5th century BC.

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#101831

Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote

> Don't know if it's a warning but AI is trying to take over media

Bullshit

> around US$200 a year cheapest option

Bullshit. 5 are free and likely more are too

> I use three only Google is so far free.

Bullshit. 5 are free and likely more are too

> The other two Grok and Perplexity only allow so much data a day free.

> I find Grok sizes you up pretty well and gives AI comments suiting
> your slant on views, keeps one happy.

More of your mindless bullshit

> Most certainly more interesting than my AU$200 a year right slanted
> Telegraph.

And much more accurate

> Might give them the flick and go to Perplexity.
> https://www.perplexity.ai/

That fucked up completely with the ones you quoted

> Doesn't go on and on like Grok does. for me a bit much

More of your mindless bullshit

The main thing I dont like about grok is that you
have to close to app and restart it to get a link with
just your latest question(s) when posting a link

> All are good

> Trick with Grok is first read it's "conclusion" the last bit, but the
> masses of other data will keep you reading for some time.

Only if you still read with your lips moving

> There is a chance AI can slant your mindset to propaganda beliefs?

Never found that with grok

> Used to be the job of Jewish controlled media movies, etc.

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#101832

On Tue, 26 May 2026 07:39:12 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>
>> Don't know if it's a warning but AI is trying to take over media
>
>Bullshit
>
That's what Grok indicated to me, It sorts out my latest media to read
Can you name your 5 free AI's?
Google gives leftist opinion, Grok does as well
But could be because most MSM where it sucks it's bull from is to the
Anti-Trump left
Bull in gives bull out.
-- 
Petzl
An evil enemy will from within, 
will burn his own nation to then rule over the ashes.
   Chinese military strategist Sun Tzu 
   (author of The Art of War), 5th century BC.

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#101838

Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote

>>> Don't know if it's a warning but AI is trying to take over media

>> Bullshit

> That's what Grok indicated to me,

More fool you

> It sorts out my latest media to read

Doesn't do that for me, it answers the questions I ask

> Can you name your 5 free AI's?

Gemini, grok, perplexity, chatgpt, claude, copilot

> Google gives leftist opinion, Grok does as well

Bullshit on both counts

> But could be because most MSM where it sucks it's bull from is to the
> Anti-Trump left

More mindless bullshit

> Bull in gives bull out.

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#101841

On Tue, 26 May 2026 09:30:36 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>> Can you name your 5 free AI's?
>
>Gemini, grok, perplexity, chatgpt, claude, copilot
>
Gemini = Google both offer free version, Perplexity only trail free
and limited if you start digging, Grok  only trail free and limited if
you start digging, claude daily message limit. Copilot junk status.
-- 
Petzl
An evil enemy will from within, 
will burn his own nation to then rule over the ashes.
   Chinese military strategist Sun Tzu 
   (author of The Art of War), 5th century BC.

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#101843

Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote

>>> Can you name your 5 free AI's?

>> Gemini, grok, perplexity, chatgpt, claude, copilot

> Gemini = Google both offer free version, Perplexity only trail free
> and limited if you start digging, Grok  only trail free

Wrong, as always with the app

> and limited if   you start digging,

More ignorant bullshit

> claude daily message limit.

More bullshit

> Copilot junk status.

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#101848

On Tue, 26 May 2026 11:38:42 +1000
"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

> More ignorant bullshit
 
You are approved for that as your secondary sig.

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#101846

On Tue, 26 May 2026 09:30:36 +1000
"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

> > Google gives leftist opinion, Grok does as well  
> 
> Bullshit on both counts

Liar - back to Hell with you.

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#101834

Rod Speed wrote:
> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
> 
>> Don't know if it's a warning but AI is trying to take over media
> 
> Bullshit
> 
>> around US$200 a year cheapest option
> 
> Bullshit. 5 are free and likely more are too
> 
Let's cut back to the fact scape:

   We know we are in New Jersey. We know we are near Sandusky. We have 
half a pack of cigarettes. There are 2 clucking chickens here, which I 
ate earlier in crispy chicken sandwiches at a place over the hill. Was 
it Chick-Fil-A?No that's on 21st.

-- 
War in the east
War in the west
War up north
War down south
War War

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#101835

On Tue, 26 May 2026 07:39:12 +1000
"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

> > I use three only Google is so far free.  
> 
> Bullshit. 5 are free and likely more are too

"Free tier" is not completely free, nor as full-featured:

ChatGPT Free Tier: Features built-in web search, the ability to analyze
photos, and access to the GPT store. 

LMSYS Chatbot Arena: A free platform where you can test and compare
dozens of top-tier AI models side-by-side (like Claude, Gemini, and
DeepSeek) without needing an account or subscription. 

Suno: Offers a very generous free tier that lets you generate full,
studio-quality songs and lyrics using just text prompts.


Free:

Perplexity: A highly capable AI research assistant that scans the web,
answers complex questions, and cites all its sources. 


Google Gemini: Excellent for web research, brainstorming, and writing.
Google also offers NotebookLM, a completely free research tool that
summarizes uploaded documents and generates AI podcast conversations
based on your files.

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#101839

Milo Trax <milo@tr.ax> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

>>> I use three only Google is so far free.

>> Bullshit. 5 are free and likely more are too

> "Free tier" is not completely free,

Bullshit

> nor as full-featured:

Separate matter entirely

> ChatGPT Free Tier: Features built-in web search, the ability to analyze
> photos, and access to the GPT store.

> LMSYS Chatbot Arena: A free platform where you can test and compare
> dozens of top-tier AI models side-by-side (like Claude, Gemini, and
> DeepSeek) without needing an account or subscription.

> Suno: Offers a very generous free tier that lets you generate full,
> studio-quality songs and lyrics using just text prompts.

> Free:

> Perplexity: A highly capable AI research assistant that scans the web,
> answers complex questions, and cites all its sources.

But has royally fucked up its response to most of what the pretzel has  
asked it

> Google Gemini: Excellent for web research, brainstorming, and writing.
> Google also offers NotebookLM, a completely free research tool that
> summarizes uploaded documents and generates AI podcast conversations
> based on your files.

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#101840

On Tue, 26 May 2026 09:39:33 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>> Perplexity: A highly capable AI research assistant that scans the web,
>> answers complex questions, and cites all its sources.
>
>But has royally fucked up its response to most of what the pretzel has  
>asked it
>
AI tends to agree with the person asking the question, 
Apparently not you, understandable
What it says about you
<https://www.perplexity.ai/search/rod-speed-usenet-troll-iBra.u6iSuy..0dwUJuvhQ#0>
     https://tinyurl.com/z5hh3shh  
Rod Speed is known in Usenet communities as a notorious 
argumentative figure often labeled a troll.
-- 
Petzl
An evil enemy will from within, 
will burn his own nation to then rule over the ashes.
   Chinese military strategist Sun Tzu 
   (author of The Art of War), 5th century BC.

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#101842

Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

>>> Perplexity: A highly capable AI research assistant that scans the web,
>>> answers complex questions, and cites all its sources.

>> But has royally fucked up its response to most of what the pretzel has
>> asked it

> AI tends to agree with the person asking the question,

Not possible when you ask the right question

> Apparently not you, understandable

Because I ask the right questions

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#101844

On Tue, 26 May 2026 11:22:45 +1000
"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
> > Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote  
> 
> >>> Perplexity: A highly capable AI research assistant that scans the
> >>> web, answers complex questions, and cites all its sources.  
> 
> >> But has royally fucked up its response to most of what the pretzel
> >> has asked it  
> 
> > AI tends to agree with the person asking the question,  
> 
> Not possible when you ask the right question


Begging off to "the right question" is inherent and flagrant loaded
BIAS, you fucking MORON!

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#101849

On 5/26/2026 11:21 AM, Milo Trax wrote:
> On Tue, 26 May 2026 11:22:45 +1000
> "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>
>>>>> Perplexity: A highly capable AI research assistant that scans the
>>>>> web, answers complex questions, and cites all its sources.
>>
>>>> But has royally fucked up its response to most of what the pretzel
>>>> has asked it
>>
>>> AI tends to agree with the person asking the question,
>>
>> Not possible when you ask the right question
> 
> 
> Begging off to "the right question" is inherent and flagrant loaded
> BIAS, you fucking MORON!
> 

Milo (or his name of the week) likes to drag in other groups so he can 
bitch about the people that reply.

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#101850

On Tue, 26 May 2026 12:49:27 -0400, Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:

>On 5/26/2026 11:21 AM, Milo Trax wrote:
>> On Tue, 26 May 2026 11:22:45 +1000
>> "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>
>>>>>> Perplexity: A highly capable AI research assistant that scans the
>>>>>> web, answers complex questions, and cites all its sources.
>>>
>>>>> But has royally fucked up its response to most of what the pretzel
>>>>> has asked it
>>>
>>>> AI tends to agree with the person asking the question,
>>>
>>> Not possible when you ask the right question
>> 
>> 
>> Begging off to "the right question" is inherent and flagrant loaded
>> BIAS, you fucking MORON!
>> 
>
>Milo (or his name of the week) likes to drag in other groups so he can 
>bitch about the people that reply.
>
And Rod Speed types faster tham most people speak
If you really need to, reply herem does as much good.
https://www.sensationbot.com/jschat.php?db=rodspeed
-- 
Petzl
What happens when the insane are "voted" (preferences) to lead our
Christian Commonwealth!

If "The definition of insanity is doing something over and over again
and expecting a different result" (Albert Einstein)?
Then stop voting Labor/"Greens"!

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#101847

On Tue, 26 May 2026 10:13:08 +1000
Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Tue, 26 May 2026 09:39:33 +1000, "Rod Speed"
> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> >> Perplexity: A highly capable AI research assistant that scans the
> >> web, answers complex questions, and cites all its sources.  
> >
> >But has royally fucked up its response to most of what the pretzel
> >has asked it
> >  
> AI tends to agree with the person asking the question, 
> Apparently not you, understandable
> What it says about you
> <https://www.perplexity.ai/search/rod-speed-usenet-troll-iBra.u6iSuy..0dwUJuvhQ#0>
>      https://tinyurl.com/z5hh3shh  
> Rod Speed is known in Usenet communities as a notorious 
> argumentative figure often labeled a troll.

He may well be (for all the literal title imbues and carries with it)
King of trolls!

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#101851

On Tue, 26 May 2026 09:12:27 -0600, Milo Trax <milo@tr.ax> wrote:

>On Tue, 26 May 2026 10:13:08 +1000
>Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 26 May 2026 09:39:33 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> >> Perplexity: A highly capable AI research assistant that scans the
>> >> web, answers complex questions, and cites all its sources.  
>> >
>> >But has royally fucked up its response to most of what the pretzel
>> >has asked it
>> >  
>> AI tends to agree with the person asking the question, 
>> Apparently not you, understandable
>> What it says about you
>> <https://www.perplexity.ai/search/rod-speed-usenet-troll-iBra.u6iSuy..0dwUJuvhQ#0>
>>      https://tinyurl.com/z5hh3shh  
>> Rod Speed is known in Usenet communities as a notorious 
>> argumentative figure often labeled a troll.
>
>He may well be (for all the literal title imbues and carries with it)
>King of trolls!
>
++++

-- 
<https://www.perplexity.ai/search/rod-speed-usenet-troll-iBra.u6iSuy..0dwUJuvhQ#0>
     https://tinyurl.com/z5hh3shh  
Rod Speed is known in Usenet communities as a notorious 
argumentative figure often labeled a troll.

So says Rod speed a egotistical self appointed know-all who knows nothing
Rod has been on newgroups since the 80's and still the same

Rod Speed a annoying  Australian can type faster than you can talk
Best to ignore or he will continue to bait you
Rod speed a egotistical self appointed know-all who knows nothing
Rod has been on newgroups since the 80's and still the same

When he starts short vulgar bursts just stop replying--

If you want to practice talking to his idiot responses Australia has a
bot to practice with or he white ants you overtime you post!
"The Rod Speed Bot"
https://www.sensationbot.com/jschat.php?db=rodspeed
 
ROD SPEED A SELF APPOINTED EGOTISTICAL KNOW-ALL WHO KNOWS NOTHING    
   JUST FULL OF
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   DON'T STEP IN IT!

IT DOESN'T MATTER IF ROD SPEED'S HEART IS IN THE RIGHT PLACE, 
HIS HEAD IS UP HIS OWN ARSE, ALWAYS FARTING EYLASHES!

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#101845

On Tue, 26 May 2026 09:39:33 +1000
"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

> > "Free tier" is not completely free,  
> 
> Bullshit
> 
> > nor as full-featured:  
> 
> Separate matter entirely
> 
> > ChatGPT Free Tier: Features built-in web search, the ability to
> > analyze photos, and access to the GPT store.  
> 
> > LMSYS Chatbot Arena: A free platform where you can test and compare
> > dozens of top-tier AI models side-by-side (like Claude, Gemini, and
> > DeepSeek) without needing an account or subscription.  
> 
> > Suno: Offers a very generous free tier that lets you generate full,
> > studio-quality songs and lyrics using just text prompts.  
 

I win again, troll.

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