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Re: Federal Prisons Are Beginning to Force Trans Inmates Off Hormone Therapy

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On May 22, 2026 at 1:06:40 PM MST, "zendejo" wrote
<6a10b751$0$22$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:

> On 5/22/26 1:54 PM, Brock McNuggets wrote:
>> On May 22, 2026 at 12:43:03 PM MST, "zendejo" wrote
>> <6a10b1c7$0$22$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:
>> 
>>> On 5/22/26 11:35 AM, chrisv wrote:
>>>> phoenix wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> zendejo wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>    chrisv wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Charlie Kirk "accepted" the alphabet crowd, he just rejected their
>>>>>>> lies, and rightly so.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> And then:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> https://rumble.com/v7a7lpg-revealed-who-told-this-dude-to-pave-over-the-charlie-kirk-assassination-cri.html?mref=1htl22&mc=e16nv
>>>>>> 
>>>>> If Charlie Kirk accepted the alphabet crowd, then why did Stephen King
>>>>> say that Charlie Kirk wanted to stone gays?
>>>> 
>>>> Only a friggen idiot would offer up such unsubstantiated hearsay, in a
>>>> debate.
>>>> 
>>>> "This guy said that some other guy said that Charlie Kirk said..."
>>>> 
>>>> Sheesh.
>>>> 
>>>> Leftists *lie* about all kinds of things!
>>>> 
>>> There is no truth in them at all, just none.
>> 
>> Neither side is perfect -- by far -- but in general liberals side more with
>> evidence. This is true on climate,
> Again you are in denial of reality, something even the climate liars had
> to abandon recently:

Notice your link does not back your claim. As was already discussed.
> 
> https://wattsupwiththat.com/2026/05/05/ipcc-admits-apocalyptic-climate-scenarios-are-implausible-meaning-most-media-scare-stories-over-last-15-years-are-officially-junk/

This article mixes a few real points with a large amount of exaggeration,
misrepresentation, and outright false claims.

Here are the key factual corrections.

1. The IPCC did not “admit climate crisis assumptions were implausible”
    The article frames this as if the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate
Change abandoned mainstream climate science. That did not happen.

What actually happened:

* RCP8.5 was always intended as a very high emissions scenario.
* Many climate scientists have argued for years that it should not be treated
as the “most likely future.”
* Newer scenario frameworks (SSPs) emphasize a broader range of futures.
* The research community increasingly considers RCP8.5 less likely because:
    * coal growth is slower than assumed,
    * renewable energy expanded faster than expected,
    * energy efficiency improved.

That is not the same as saying climate change is a hoax, or that climate risks
are fabricated.

2. RCP8.5 was never the “official prediction”
    The article falsely implies scientists presented RCP8.5 as “what will
happen.”

In reality, climate models use scenarios:

* low emissions,
* medium emissions,
* high emissions.

RCP8.5 represented a worst-case or near worst-case pathway.

Scientists often explicitly stated:

* it was not a forecast,
* it was a conditional scenario,
* it explored what could happen under very high emissions.

Critics do have a partially valid point that:

* media outlets,
* activists,
* and sometimes researchers
    occasionally treated RCP8.5 as more probable than many experts believed.

That criticism is real and widely discussed inside climate science itself.

3. Roger Pielke Jr. did criticize overuse of RCP8.5
    Roger Pielke Jr. has indeed argued that RCP8.5 became overused and
distorted public discussion.

But:

* Pielke is not saying climate change is fake,
* not saying warming is harmless,
* not saying emissions do not matter.

He has repeatedly stated humans are warming the climate and that climate risks
are real. His criticism is mostly about:

* scenario misuse,
* poor communication,
* exaggerated framing.

The article weaponizes his criticism far beyond what he actually argues.

4. The article falsely claims warming is “unmeasurable”
    Global warming is measurable through multiple independent datasets:

* surface thermometers,
* ocean heat content,
* satellite observations,
* glacier loss,
* sea level rise,
* Arctic ice decline.

These measurements come from multiple organizations worldwide, including:

* NASA,
* National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration,
* Met Office,
* European Centre for Medium-Range Weather Forecasts.

Global average temperature has risen roughly 1.2°C since the late 19th century
according to multiple independent analyses.

5. The “CO2 saturation” argument is misleading
    The article claims atmospheric gas saturation means warming is grossly
overestimated.

This is a common climate skeptic argument, but it is misleading.

CO2 absorption is logarithmic, not absent.

Meaning:

* the first increases matter more,
* later increases still add warming,
* but each doubling produces a similar incremental effect.

This physics has been understood since the 19th century and is incorporated
into modern climate science.

6. The article misrepresents geological CO2 history
    It is true Earth had much higher CO2 levels millions of years ago.

But the article omits major context:

* continents were arranged differently,
* solar brightness differed,
* ecosystems differed,
* sea levels were dramatically different,
* many past high-CO2 periods were substantially warmer.

Past Earth climates do not prove modern rapid warming is harmless.

7. Sea level rise claims are distorted
    The article mocks discussion of multi-meter sea level rise.

Current mainstream projections for 2100 are generally around:

* roughly 0.3 to 1 meter depending on emissions and ice-sheet behavior.

However:

* multi-meter sea level rise over centuries is considered physically possible
if major ice sheets destabilize.
* Long-term sea level response can continue for centuries even after
temperatures stabilize.

The article confuses:

* short-term projections,
    with
* long-term possibilities.

8. The article uses heavy ridicule instead of evidence
    Terms like:

* “eco loons,”
* “climate crackpipe,”
* “agitprop,”
* “idiot short of a village”

are rhetorical attacks, not scientific arguments.

Strong scientific critiques normally rely on:

* model validation,
* uncertainty analysis,
* empirical evidence,
* statistical comparisons.

This article mostly uses emotionally loaded language.

9. There is a legitimate debate underneath the rhetoric
    Buried inside the polemic are some real discussions happening in climate
science:

Legitimate debates include:

* whether RCP8.5 was overused,
* how media should discuss uncertainty,
* whether worst-case framing distorts public understanding,
* how likely extreme emissions futures really are.

Those are real methodological and communication debates.

But they do not overturn the broader scientific consensus that:

* humans are warming the planet,
* greenhouse gases are the primary driver,
* continued emissions increase climate risks,
* uncertainty cuts both ways.


-- 
It's impossible for someone who is at war with themselves to be at peace with you.

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Re: Federal Prisons Are Beginning to Force Trans Inmates Off Hormone Therapy zendejo <zd@no.here> - 2026-05-22 14:06 -0600
  Re: Federal Prisons Are Beginning to Force Trans Inmates Off Hormone Therapy Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-05-22 20:24 +0000
    Re: Federal Prisons Are Beginning to Force Trans Inmates Off Hormone Therapy zendejo <zd@no.here> - 2026-05-22 15:01 -0600
      Re: Federal Prisons Are Beginning to Force Trans Inmates Off Hormone Therapy Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-05-22 21:24 +0000
        Re: Federal Prisons Are Beginning to Force Trans Inmates Off Hormone Therapy phoenix <j63840576@gmail.com> - 2026-05-22 15:26 -0600
          Re: Federal Prisons Are Beginning to Force Trans Inmates Off Hormone Therapy Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-05-22 21:32 +0000
            Re: Federal Prisons Are Beginning to Force Trans Inmates Off Hormone Therapy zendejo <zd@no.here> - 2026-05-22 16:37 -0600
              Re: Federal Prisons Are Beginning to Force Trans Inmates Off Hormone Therapy Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-05-22 22:39 +0000
                Re: Federal Prisons Are Beginning to Force Trans Inmates Off Hormone Therapy zendejo <zd@no.here> - 2026-05-22 16:44 -0600
          Re: Federal Prisons Are Beginning to Force Trans Inmates Off Hormone Therapy zendejo <zd@no.here> - 2026-05-22 16:35 -0600
            Re: Federal Prisons Are Beginning to Force Trans Inmates Off Hormone Therapy Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-05-22 22:39 +0000
              Re: Federal Prisons Are Beginning to Force Trans Inmates Off Hormone Therapy zendejo <zd@no.here> - 2026-05-22 16:46 -0600
                Re: Federal Prisons Are Beginning to Force Trans Inmates Off Hormone Therapy phoenix <j63840576@gmail.com> - 2026-05-22 17:23 -0600
                Re: Federal Prisons Are Beginning to Force Trans Inmates Off Hormone Therapy zendejo <zd@no.here> - 2026-05-23 09:17 -0600
                Re: Federal Prisons Are Beginning to Force Trans Inmates Off Hormone Therapy Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-05-22 23:28 +0000
                Re: Federal Prisons Are Beginning to Force Trans Inmates Off Hormone Therapy zendejo <zd@no.here> - 2026-05-23 09:20 -0600
                Re: Federal Prisons Are Beginning to Force Trans Inmates Off Hormone Therapy Brock McNuggets <Brock.McNuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-05-23 16:35 +0000
                Re: Federal Prisons Are Beginning to Force Trans Inmates Off Hormone Therapy zendejo <zd@no.here> - 2026-05-23 10:42 -0600
                Re: Federal Prisons Are Beginning to Force Trans Inmates Off Hormone Therapy Brock McNuggets <Brock.McNuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-05-23 16:54 +0000
                Re: Federal Prisons Are Beginning to Force Trans Inmates Off Hormone Therapy zendejo <zd@no.here> - 2026-05-23 12:27 -0600
                Re: Federal Prisons Are Beginning to Force Trans Inmates Off Hormone Therapy chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2026-05-23 04:53 -0500
                Re: Federal Prisons Are Beginning to Force Trans Inmates Off Hormone Therapy zendejo <zd@no.here> - 2026-05-23 09:24 -0600
            Re: Federal Prisons Are Beginning to Force Trans Inmates Off Hormone Therapy phoenix <j63840576@gmail.com> - 2026-05-22 17:22 -0600
              Re: Federal Prisons Are Beginning to Force Trans Inmates Off Hormone Therapy zendejo <zd@no.here> - 2026-05-23 09:16 -0600
        Re: Federal Prisons Are Beginning to Force Trans Inmates Off Hormone Therapy zendejo <zd@no.here> - 2026-05-22 16:32 -0600
          Re: Federal Prisons Are Beginning to Force Trans Inmates Off Hormone Therapy Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-05-22 22:42 +0000
            Re: Federal Prisons Are Beginning to Force Trans Inmates Off Hormone Therapy phoenix <j63840576@gmail.com> - 2026-05-22 17:57 -0600
              Re: Federal Prisons Are Beginning to Force Trans Inmates Off Hormone Therapy Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-05-23 01:51 +0000
                Re: Federal Prisons Are Beginning to Force Trans Inmates Off Hormone Therapy zendejo <zd@no.here> - 2026-05-23 09:23 -0600
              Re: Federal Prisons Are Beginning to Force Trans Inmates Off Hormone Therapy zendejo <zd@no.here> - 2026-05-23 09:21 -0600
            Re: Federal Prisons Are Beginning to Force Trans Inmates Off Hormone Therapy zendejo <zd@no.here> - 2026-05-23 09:12 -0600

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