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| Started by | "Robert Clark" <rgregoryclark@gmSPAMBLOACKail.com> |
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| First post | 2017-07-03 08:31 -0400 |
| Last post | 2017-07-13 02:57 -0700 |
| Articles | 19 on this page of 379 — 33 participants |
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Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. "Robert Clark" <rgregoryclark@gmSPAMBLOACKail.com> - 2017-07-03 08:31 -0400
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> - 2017-07-03 09:04 -0400
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. leongdentalsf@gmail.com - 2017-07-03 06:23 -0700
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. leongdentalsf@gmail.com - 2017-07-03 06:20 -0700
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-07-06 09:26 -0400
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Joe Chisolm <jchisolm6@earthlink.net> - 2017-07-03 11:09 -0500
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-07-03 09:54 -0700
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Joe Chisolm <jchisolm6@earthlink.net> - 2017-07-03 18:02 -0500
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-07-03 16:44 -0700
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Joe Chisolm <jchisolm6@earthlink.net> - 2017-07-04 12:10 -0500
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-07-04 11:12 -0700
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Clifford Heath <no.spam@please.net> - 2017-07-05 13:49 +1000
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-07-04 21:31 -0700
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Clifford Heath <no.spam@please.net> - 2017-07-05 16:03 +1000
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-03 17:04 +0000
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2017-07-03 14:04 -0400
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-03 18:28 +0000
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2017-07-03 16:14 -0400
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-03 20:57 +0000
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. tabbypurr@gmail.com - 2017-07-03 14:57 -0700
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2017-07-03 16:14 -0700
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-04 00:45 +0000
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2017-07-03 20:11 -0700
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-04 04:55 +0000
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2017-07-04 02:29 -0700
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. David Mitchell <david.robot.mitchell@gmail.com> - 2017-07-04 06:49 +0100
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-04 18:02 +0000
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-07-04 21:33 -0700
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. David Mitchell <david.robot.mitchell@gmail.com> - 2017-07-05 07:16 +0100
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. tabbypurr@gmail.com - 2017-07-05 08:52 -0700
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-05 16:47 +0000
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2017-07-05 11:08 -0700
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. krw@notreal.com - 2017-07-05 21:02 -0400
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2017-07-05 19:12 -0700
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. krw@notreal.com - 2017-07-05 22:16 -0400
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2017-07-05 23:30 -0700
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. David Mitchell <david.robot.mitchell@gmail.com> - 2017-07-06 09:35 +0100
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2017-07-06 10:05 -0700
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. krw@notreal.com - 2017-07-06 21:20 -0400
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Sегg io <innvalid@invalid.com> - 2017-07-07 08:03 -0500
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. krw@notreal.com - 2017-07-06 21:19 -0400
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Sегg io <innvalid@invalid.com> - 2017-07-06 13:09 -0500
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2017-07-04 23:05 -0700
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2017-07-04 20:08 -0600
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2017-07-04 09:11 -0400
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-04 18:12 +0000
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. tabbypurr@gmail.com - 2017-07-04 20:08 -0700
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. David Mitchell <david.robot.mitchell@gmail.com> - 2017-07-05 07:20 +0100
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. tabbypurr@gmail.com - 2017-07-05 08:54 -0700
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-05 16:54 +0000
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2017-07-05 18:42 -0400
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-05 23:07 +0000
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. tabbypurr@gmail.com - 2017-07-05 17:27 -0700
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. David Mitchell <david.robot.mitchell@gmail.com> - 2017-07-06 09:30 +0100
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2017-07-06 06:35 -0400
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-06 16:34 +0000
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. krw@notreal.com - 2017-07-06 21:25 -0400
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-07 04:56 +0000
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2017-07-07 02:09 -0700
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. krw@notreal.com - 2017-07-07 20:18 -0400
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. David Mitchell <david.robot.mitchell@gmail.com> - 2017-07-07 06:19 +0100
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-07 17:13 +0000
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. tabbypurr@gmail.com - 2017-07-07 11:43 -0700
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> - 2017-07-07 15:22 -0400
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. tabbypurr@gmail.com - 2017-07-07 15:29 -0700
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. pcdhobbs@gmail.com - 2017-07-07 16:20 -0700
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. tabbypurr@gmail.com - 2017-07-07 18:18 -0700
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> - 2017-07-08 08:46 -0400
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> - 2017-07-08 08:53 -0400
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. tabbypurr@gmail.com - 2017-07-08 08:12 -0700
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. David Mitchell <david.robot.mitchell@gmail.com> - 2017-07-08 06:49 +0100
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-08 17:13 +0000
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. tabbypurr@gmail.com - 2017-07-08 11:13 -0700
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. krw@notreal.com - 2017-07-08 18:50 -0400
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. tabbypurr@gmail.com - 2017-07-08 16:33 -0700
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. krw@notreal.com - 2017-07-08 19:47 -0400
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. tabbypurr@gmail.com - 2017-07-08 18:17 -0700
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. krw@notreal.com - 2017-07-08 21:27 -0400
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. David Mitchell <david.robot.mitchell@gmail.com> - 2017-07-09 07:12 +0100
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-09 17:44 +0000
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2017-07-09 12:48 -0700
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Sегg io <innvalid@invalid.com> - 2017-07-09 23:27 -0500
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. David Mitchell <david.robot.mitchell@gmail.com> - 2017-07-10 07:11 +0100
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-10 16:30 +0000
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. David Mitchell <david.robot.mitchell@gmail.com> - 2017-07-11 06:49 +0100
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-11 17:47 +0000
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2017-07-11 13:15 -0700
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. krw@notreal.com - 2017-07-11 16:27 -0400
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2017-07-11 14:46 -0700
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. krw@notreal.com - 2017-07-11 18:36 -0400
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2017-07-11 18:20 -0700
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. krw@notreal.com - 2017-07-11 21:31 -0400
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-11 22:12 +0000
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Spehro Pefhany <speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> - 2017-07-11 19:01 -0400
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-12 02:24 +0000
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2017-07-11 22:44 -0700
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. "Robert Clark" <rgregoryclark@gmSPAMBLOACKail.com> - 2017-07-12 10:24 -0400
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. krw@notreal.com - 2017-07-13 20:57 -0400
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2017-07-13 23:17 -0700
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. krw@notreal.com - 2017-07-14 17:42 -0400
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2017-07-14 16:11 -0700
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2017-07-11 18:21 -0700
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2017-07-12 07:28 -0400
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Martin Brown <'''newspam'''@nezumi.demon.co.uk> - 2017-07-12 12:43 +0100
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> - 2017-07-12 07:46 -0400
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. krw@notreal.com - 2017-07-13 20:59 -0400
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. tabbypurr@gmail.com - 2017-07-13 20:36 -0700
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. krw@notreal.com - 2017-07-14 17:47 -0400
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. tabbypurr@gmail.com - 2017-07-14 15:32 -0700
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. krw@notreal.com - 2017-07-14 19:07 -0400
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. tabbypurr@gmail.com - 2017-07-14 16:21 -0700
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2017-07-12 05:10 -0700
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-12 17:45 +0000
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Serg io <invaalid@invalid.com> - 2017-07-12 18:39 -0500
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2017-07-12 21:29 -0700
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Serg io <invaalid@invalid.com> - 2017-07-13 20:27 -0500
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2017-07-13 23:22 -0700
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Serg io <invaalid@invalid.com> - 2017-07-14 11:55 -0500
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Martin Brown <'''newspam'''@nezumi.demon.co.uk> - 2017-07-13 08:01 +0100
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. krw@notreal.com - 2017-07-13 21:01 -0400
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-14 02:11 +0000
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. krw@notreal.com - 2017-07-13 22:56 -0400
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-14 05:03 +0000
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. krw@notreal.com - 2017-07-14 17:50 -0400
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-14 23:49 +0000
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. krw@notreal.com - 2017-07-14 23:04 -0400
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-15 05:02 +0000
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. krw@notreal.com - 2017-07-15 08:51 -0400
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-15 17:23 +0000
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. krw@notreal.com - 2017-07-15 18:08 -0400
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-16 02:02 +0000
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2017-07-16 12:53 -0600
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Serg io <invaalid@invalid.com> - 2017-07-17 13:04 -0500
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2017-07-16 09:51 -0400
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Serg io <invaalid@invalid.com> - 2017-07-16 11:04 -0500
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-16 17:55 +0000
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2017-07-16 16:15 -0400
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-16 20:26 +0000
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2017-07-16 15:32 -0600
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-16 22:08 +0000
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-07-16 15:21 -0700
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-16 22:53 +0000
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2017-07-16 17:00 -0700
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Serg io <invaalid@invalid.com> - 2017-07-17 09:06 -0500
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. krw@notreal.com - 2017-07-17 20:23 -0400
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2017-07-16 15:27 -0600
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2017-07-16 17:39 -0400
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> - 2017-07-17 09:46 -0400
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-16 22:16 +0000
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Lofty Goat <rlwatkins@gmail.com> - 2017-07-16 13:04 -0500
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. tabbypurr@gmail.com - 2017-07-12 04:33 -0700
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. David Mitchell <david.robot.mitchell@gmail.com> - 2017-07-12 07:04 +0100
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-12 17:48 +0000
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. David Mitchell <david.robot.mitchell@gmail.com> - 2017-07-13 06:50 +0100
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-13 17:29 +0000
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. David Mitchell <david.robot.mitchell@gmail.com> - 2017-07-14 05:51 +0100
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-14 05:11 +0000
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. tabbypurr@gmail.com - 2017-07-14 02:55 -0700
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. krw@notreal.com - 2017-07-14 17:51 -0400
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. tabbypurr@gmail.com - 2017-07-14 15:34 -0700
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. krw@notreal.com - 2017-07-14 19:09 -0400
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. tabbypurr@gmail.com - 2017-07-14 16:24 -0700
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. David Mitchell <david.robot.mitchell@gmail.com> - 2017-07-15 06:36 +0100
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2017-07-15 00:27 -0600
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. krw@notreal.com - 2017-07-15 08:52 -0400
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. David Mitchell <david.robot.mitchell@gmail.com> - 2017-07-16 06:40 +0100
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. krw@notreal.com - 2017-07-16 16:02 -0400
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. David Mitchell <david.robot.mitchell@gmail.com> - 2017-07-17 06:02 +0100
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. krw@notreal.com - 2017-07-17 20:31 -0400
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. David Mitchell <david.robot.mitchell@gmail.com> - 2017-07-18 06:32 +0100
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. krw@notreal.com - 2017-07-18 21:10 -0400
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. David Mitchell <david.robot.mitchell@gmail.com> - 2017-07-19 05:08 +0100
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. krw@notreal.com - 2017-07-19 20:17 -0400
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-20 01:11 +0000
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. David Mitchell <david.robot.mitchell@gmail.com> - 2017-07-20 06:23 +0100
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2017-07-20 03:35 -0700
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. David Mitchell <david.robot.mitchell@gmail.com> - 2017-07-20 05:56 +0100
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Serg io <invaalid@invalid.com> - 2017-07-20 10:18 -0500
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> - 2017-07-20 11:34 -0400
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. krw@notreal.com - 2017-07-20 16:25 -0400
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-20 20:42 +0000
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2017-07-20 16:40 -0700
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. krw@notreal.com - 2017-07-20 19:54 -0400
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Lasse Langwadt Christensen <langwadt@fonz.dk> - 2017-07-20 17:04 -0700
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> - 2017-07-21 12:31 -0400
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Serg io <invaalid@invalid.com> - 2017-07-20 19:15 -0500
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Lasse Langwadt Christensen <langwadt@fonz.dk> - 2017-07-20 17:25 -0700
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. tabbypurr@gmail.com - 2017-07-20 17:41 -0700
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. krw@notreal.com - 2017-07-20 20:43 -0400
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. krw@notreal.com - 2017-07-20 20:38 -0400
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2017-07-21 07:01 -0400
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. krw@notreal.com - 2017-07-20 16:24 -0400
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-15 17:26 +0000
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Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. "Greg \(Strider\) Moore" <mooregr@deletethisgreenms.com> - 2017-07-14 09:01 -0400
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-14 17:15 +0000
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. tabbypurr@gmail.com - 2017-07-14 12:04 -0700
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2017-07-14 16:10 -0700
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. "Greg \(Strider\) Moore" <mooregr@deletethisgreenms.com> - 2017-07-15 22:11 -0400
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-16 03:23 +0000
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Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. tabbypurr@gmail.com - 2017-07-19 02:15 -0700
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Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. tabbypurr@gmail.com - 2017-07-10 06:48 -0700
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2017-07-05 08:19 -0400
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Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2017-07-05 11:11 -0700
Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. krw@notreal.com - 2017-07-05 21:11 -0400
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Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. krw@notreal.com - 2017-07-06 21:32 -0400
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Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. krw@notreal.com - 2017-07-10 18:21 -0400
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Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-10 05:08 +0000
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On 7/10/2017 9:32 AM, Edward Prochak wrote: >> On Saturday, July 8, 2017 at 9:04:04 PM UTC-4, Lofty Goat wrote: >>> On Fri, 7 Jul 2017 08:00:04 -0700 (PDT), Edward Prochak >>> <edprochak@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> ... electric motors are much more complex than combustion motors.... >>> >>> What measure of complexity are you using? >>> >>> -- >>> Goat >> >> This is in the context of 3-d printing. The mixture of materials >> makes electric motors much more complex than combustion engines. >> combustion engines are all metal. >> electric motors have metal and insulating material. >> That's the measure. >> ed >> > >you have low temp melting materials, adjacent to high temp melting >materials. > >How do you print an insulated length of round wire from a normal direction >to its axis ? assume copper and teflon. > >--- Ceramics have been used as insulators from the early days of electricity: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ceramic_capacitor#History Many ceramics also have high temperature resistance. The most important reason plastic is used for wire insulation is that wire commonly has to be bent to different directions. However, that wouldn't be required for the wire deposited in place. For deposition of insulated wire at right angles to the wire axis, when deposited in horizontal slices, it would have the appearance of insulation, then wire, insulation, then insulation, then wire, etc. Bob Clark ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Finally, nanotechnology can now fulfill its potential to revolutionize 21st-century technology, from the space elevator, to private, orbital launchers, to 'flying cars'. This crowdfunding campaign is to prove it: Nanotech: from air to space. https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/nanotech-from-air-to-space/x/13319568/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- --
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| From | "Robert Clark" <rgregoryclark@gmSPAMBLOACKail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-07-10 17:40 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <ok0s0l$aj6$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #467230 |
On 7/10/2017 9:32 AM, Edward Prochak wrote: >> On Saturday, July 8, 2017 at 9:04:04 PM UTC-4, Lofty Goat wrote: >>> On Fri, 7 Jul 2017 08:00:04 -0700 (PDT), Edward Prochak >>> <edprochak@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> ... electric motors are much more complex than combustion motors.... >>> >>> What measure of complexity are you using? >>> >>> -- >>> Goat >> >> This is in the context of 3-d printing. The mixture of materials >> makes electric motors much more complex than combustion engines. >> combustion engines are all metal. >> electric motors have metal and insulating material. >> That's the measure. >> ed >> > >you have low temp melting materials, adjacent to high temp melting >materials. > >How do you print an insulated length of round wire from a normal direction >to its axis ? assume copper and teflon. > >--- The possibility of 3D-printing insulated wiring could be tested by first testing in plastics. Plastic 3D-printing does have the capability of printing with different materials side by side: How It's Used - Multi-Materials with PolyJet. http://www.stratasys.com/solutions/additive-manufacturing/multi-material-3d-printing The key point that needs to be tested is if there could be 3D-printed multiple coils of a "wire" with one material inside the emulating the copper with a different material on the outside emulating the insulation. Bob Clark ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Finally, nanotechnology can now fulfill its potential to revolutionize 21st-century technology, from the space elevator, to private, orbital launchers, to 'flying cars'. This crowdfunding campaign is to prove it: Nanotech: from air to space. https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/nanotech-from-air-to-space/x/13319568/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- --
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| From | Sегg io <innvalid@invalid.com> |
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| Date | 2017-07-10 17:22 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <ok0uo1$h60$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #467844 |
On 7/10/2017 4:40 PM, Robert Clark wrote: > On 7/10/2017 9:32 AM, Edward Prochak wrote: >>> On Saturday, July 8, 2017 at 9:04:04 PM UTC-4, Lofty Goat wrote: >>>> On Fri, 7 Jul 2017 08:00:04 -0700 (PDT), Edward Prochak >>>> <edprochak@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> ... electric motors are much more complex than combustion motors.... >>>> >>>> What measure of complexity are you using? >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Goat >>> >>> This is in the context of 3-d printing. The mixture of materials >>> makes electric motors much more complex than combustion engines. >>> combustion engines are all metal. >>> electric motors have metal and insulating material. >>> That's the measure. >>> ed >>> >> >> you have low temp melting materials, adjacent to high temp melting >> materials. >> >> How do you print an insulated length of round wire from a normal >> direction to its axis ? assume copper and teflon. >> >> --- > > The possibility of 3D-printing insulated wiring could be tested by first > testing in plastics. Plastic 3D-printing does have the capability of > printing with different materials side by side: > > How It's Used - Multi-Materials with PolyJet. > http://www.stratasys.com/solutions/additive-manufacturing/multi-material-3d-printing > > > The key point that needs to be tested is if there could be 3D-printed > multiple coils of a "wire" with one material inside the emulating the > copper with a different material on the outside emulating the insulation. > > > Bob Clark > a 3D printing rule, you can only print on something with the same or higher melting point. can't print a high melting point material onto a low melting point material. that is a major limitation
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| From | tabbypurr@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2017-07-10 16:36 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <13fcc74f-f6d4-4c41-9b77-f834f9bef635@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #467850 |
On Monday, 10 July 2017 23:23:07 UTC+1, Sегg io wrote: > On 7/10/2017 4:40 PM, Robert Clark wrote: > > The possibility of 3D-printing insulated wiring could be tested by first > > testing in plastics. Plastic 3D-printing does have the capability of > > printing with different materials side by side: > > > > How It's Used - Multi-Materials with PolyJet. > > http://www.stratasys.com/solutions/additive-manufacturing/multi-material-3d-printing > > > > > > The key point that needs to be tested is if there could be 3D-printed > > multiple coils of a "wire" with one material inside the emulating the > > copper with a different material on the outside emulating the insulation. > > a 3D printing rule, you can only print on something with the same or > higher melting point. > > can't print a high melting point material onto a low melting point material. > > that is a major limitation FWIW metals can be deposited onto plastics by plating & vapour deposition. The latter works because amount of hot metal laid down at one time is too small to have much effect on the plastic. So perhaps some sort of inkjet-like system could deposit very small amounts at a time. No, I'm not seriously proposing wound parts be 3d printed, but that might make it possible in principle. NT
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| From | "Robert Clark" <rgregoryclark@gmSPAMBLOACKail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-07-10 19:49 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <ok13j0$1vm$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #467850 |
On 7/10/2017 4:40 PM, Robert Clark wrote: >> On 7/10/2017 9:32 AM, Edward Prochak wrote: >>>> On Saturday, July 8, 2017 at 9:04:04 PM UTC-4, Lofty Goat wrote: >>>>> On Fri, 7 Jul 2017 08:00:04 -0700 (PDT), Edward Prochak >>>>> <edprochak@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> ... electric motors are much more complex than combustion motors.... >>>>> >>>>> What measure of complexity are you using? >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Goat >>>> >>>> This is in the context of 3-d printing. The mixture of materials >>>> makes electric motors much more complex than combustion engines. >>>> combustion engines are all metal. >>>> electric motors have metal and insulating material. >>>> That's the measure. >>>> ed >>>> >>> >>> you have low temp melting materials, adjacent to high temp melting >>> materials. >>> >>> How do you print an insulated length of round wire from a normal >>> direction to its axis ? assume copper and teflon. >>> >>> --- >> >> The possibility of 3D-printing insulated wiring could be tested by first >> testing in plastics. Plastic 3D-printing does have the capability of >> printing with different materials side by side: >> >> How It's Used - Multi-Materials with PolyJet. >> http://www.stratasys.com/solutions/additive-manufacturing/multi-material-3d-printing >> The key point that needs to be tested is if there could be 3D-printed >> multiple coils of a "wire" with one material inside the emulating the >> copper with a different material on the outside emulating the insulation. >> >> >> Bob Clark >> > > a 3D printing rule, you can only print on something with the same or > higher melting point. > >can't print a high melting point material onto a low melting point >material. > >that is a major limitation > > >--- Could lay down the metal, then help it cool by blowing cold gas over it, then lay down the insulation, etc. Some types of insulation such as silicone rubber have a melting point of 300 C. Another possibility, is that in order for a material to melt, not only does the temperature have to reach the melting point but a quantity of heat called the "heat of fusion" has to be supplied to it for it to undergo the phase change from solid to liquid. For instance what's done with high performance rocket engines such as the SSME's, which operate above their melting point, is that the heat reaching the combustion chamber walls is constantly drawn away by cold fuel circulating around the walls, so this heat of fusion is not delivered to the walls. Still another possibility is a recent discovery of high temperature nanotube rubber: Nanotube rubber stays stretchy at extreme temperatures. Dec 2, 2010 http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/2010/dec/02/nanotube-rubber-stays-stretchy-at-extreme-temperatures Bob Clark ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Finally, nanotechnology can now fulfill its potential to revolutionize 21st-century technology, from the space elevator, to private, orbital launchers, to 'flying cars'. This crowdfunding campaign is to prove it: Nanotech: from air to space. https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/nanotech-from-air-to-space/x/13319568/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- --
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| From | Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> |
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| Date | 2017-07-13 20:17 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <ok8kgn$2lk$1@newsreader4.netcologne.de> |
| In reply to | #467862 |
Robert Clark <rgregoryclark@gmSPAMBLOACKail.com> schrieb: > Some types of insulation such as silicone > rubber have a melting point of 300 C. Do you know what a rubber is? Apparently not.
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| From | jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com |
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| Date | 2017-07-13 21:42 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <g36l3e-n1b.ln1@mail.specsol.com> |
| In reply to | #467862 |
In sci.physics Robert Clark <rgregoryclark@gmspambloackail.com> wrote: <snip> > Could lay down the metal, then help it cool by blowing cold gas over it, > then lay down the insulation, etc. Some types of insulation such as silicone > rubber have a melting point of 300 C. Nope, silicone rubber once cured has no melting point. 300 C is the maximum temperature it can withstand before permanetly degrading. Silicone rubbers in general have poor resistance to steam, super heated water, oils, fuels and solvents. Silicone rubbers would be impractical to 3D print due the the chemistry. -- Jim Pennino
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| From | tabbypurr@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2017-07-13 15:47 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <5df492e8-59ee-4b9f-a732-031ddb1a9487@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #468311 |
On Thursday, 13 July 2017 22:46:08 UTC+1, ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: > In sci.physics Robert Clark <rgregoryclark@gmspambloackail.com> wrote: > > <snip> > > > Could lay down the metal, then help it cool by blowing cold gas over it, > > then lay down the insulation, etc. Some types of insulation such as silicone > > rubber have a melting point of 300 C. > > Nope, silicone rubber once cured has no melting point. 300 C is the maximum > temperature it can withstand before permanetly degrading. Silicone rubbers > in general have poor resistance to steam, super heated water, oils, fuels > and solvents. > > Silicone rubbers would be impractical to 3D print due the the chemistry. Why is that? I would have thought it could work with an inkjet-like process. NT
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| From | "Robert Clark" <rgregoryclark@gmSPAMBLOACKail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-07-13 20:53 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <ok94ev$c2a$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #468311 |
> >> Could lay down the metal, then help it cool by blowing cold gas over it, >> then lay down the insulation, etc. Some types of insulation such as >> silicone >> rubber have a melting point of 300 C. > >Nope, silicone rubber once cured has no melting point. 300 C is the maximum >temperature it can withstand before permanetly degrading. Silicone rubbers >in general have poor resistance to steam, super heated water, oils, fuels >and solvents. > >Silicone rubbers would be impractical to 3D print due the the chemistry. > > In any case there are ceramic-based insulators that can withstand in the range of 500C http://www.ceramawire.com/technical-information.shtml Bob Clark ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Finally, nanotechnology can now fulfill its potential to revolutionize 21st-century technology, from the space elevator, to private, orbital launchers, to 'flying cars'. This crowdfunding campaign is to prove it: Nanotech: from air to space. https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/nanotech-from-air-to-space/x/13319568/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- --
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| From | jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com |
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| Date | 2017-07-14 02:05 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <6gll3e-bmc.ln1@mail.specsol.com> |
| In reply to | #468337 |
In sci.physics Robert Clark <rgregoryclark@gmspambloackail.com> wrote: > >> >>> Could lay down the metal, then help it cool by blowing cold gas over it, >>> then lay down the insulation, etc. Some types of insulation such as >>> silicone >>> rubber have a melting point of 300 C. >> >>Nope, silicone rubber once cured has no melting point. 300 C is the maximum >>temperature it can withstand before permanetly degrading. Silicone rubbers >>in general have poor resistance to steam, super heated water, oils, fuels >>and solvents. >> >>Silicone rubbers would be impractical to 3D print due the the chemistry. >> >> > > In any case there are ceramic-based insulators that can withstand in the > range of 500C > > http://www.ceramawire.com/technical-information.shtml > > Bob Clark And are just as impractical to 3D print. -- Jim Pennino
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| From | Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-07-13 23:25 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <8togmch4q6ar21i7i0s89kkojm0tslh88t@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #468368 |
jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>In sci.physics Robert Clark <rgregoryclark@gmspambloackail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>> Could lay down the metal, then help it cool by blowing cold gas over it,
>>>> then lay down the insulation, etc. Some types of insulation such as
>>>> silicone
>>>> rubber have a melting point of 300 C.
>>>
>>>Nope, silicone rubber once cured has no melting point. 300 C is the maximum
>>>temperature it can withstand before permanetly degrading. Silicone rubbers
>>>in general have poor resistance to steam, super heated water, oils, fuels
>>>and solvents.
>>>
>>>Silicone rubbers would be impractical to 3D print due the the chemistry.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> In any case there are ceramic-based insulators that can withstand in the
>> range of 500C
>>
>> http://www.ceramawire.com/technical-information.shtml
>>
>
>And are just as impractical to 3D print.
>
Well, except that there are outfits that are 3-D printing ceramics
NOW, so perhaps not so impractical after all.
--
"Some people get lost in thought because it's such unfamiliar
territory."
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| From | "Robert Clark" <rgregoryclark@gmSPAMBLOACKail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-07-12 10:58 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <ok5d6v$ae4$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #466689 |
>An article from 2015: > >3-D-printed car could hit streets next year. Chris Woodyard, USA TODAY 4:48 >p.m. EST November 12, 2015 >http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/2015/11/10/3d-printed-car-local-motors-swim/75530830/ > >Several companies have come out with what they call "3D-printed" cars, but >none have 3D-printed the most important part, the engine. > >This would be difficult to do with an internal combustion engine, with its >high temperatures, multiple moving parts, and high tolerances. > >But it shouldn't be too difficult with an electric engine. In fact >considering there are now miniature 3D-printers on the market for the home, >an amateur could be the first to produce an entire, scale-size, 3D-printed >car. >And then it could be scaled up to produce a full-size, working, fully >3D-printed automobile. > >This would revolutionize the industry, obviously. > >The two most difficult parts would be the engine and the transmission. > >This video shows how you can make your own simple electric motor: > >How to Make an Electric Motor at Home - YouTube. >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0p2QTE26VOA > >Looking at the steps in the video, it appears they could all be >accomplished by 3D-printing. > > > Bob Clark > > GE has mass produced via 3D-printing a metal nozzle tip that would have been difficult to produce using other methods: An Epiphany Of Disruption: GE Additive Chief Explains How 3D Printing Will Upend Manufacturing. Jun 21, 2017 by Tomas Kellner [quote]The nozzle met the team’s wildest expectations. Morris’ machine not only combined all 20 parts into a single unit, but it also weighed 25 percent less than an ordinary nozzle and was more than five times as durable. “The technology was incredible,” Ehteshami says. “In the design of jet engines, complexity used to be expensive. But additive allows you to get sophisticated and reduces costs at the same time. This is an engineer’s dream. I never imagined that this would be possible.”[/quote] http://www.ge.com/reports/epiphany-disruption-ge-additive-chief-explains-3d-printing-will-upend-manufacturing/ But what I really find interesting in this article are some comments GE's additive manufacturing head Ehteshami said about what he see's for the future of 3D-printing: [quote]“I was excited but also disturbed,” says Mohammad Ehteshami after a vendor printed an complex part for a jet engine. “I knew that we found a solution, but I also saw that this technology could eliminate what we’ve done for years and years and put a lot of pressure on our financial model.”[/quote] and: [quote]Ehteshami calls his additive awakening an “epiphany of disruption.” Says Ehteshami: “Once you start thinking about it, you realize both intellectually and emotionally ‘Oh my God, if I don’t start moving, somebody else will.’ You are excited because you are an engineer, but you are also afraid because you are a human being. Both of these feelings start pulling at you to say: ‘I’ve got to go, I’ve got to go.’ And you start running.”[/quote] From the way I interpret what Ehteshami is saying, it mirrors something I've been thinking. You can imagine not just cars being fully 3D-printed, but entire airplanes, tractors, construction vehicles, refrigerators, air conditioners, and everything else called "durable goods". But this would mean nearly all manufacturing jobs would be replaced by 3D-printing machines. That is a major economic disruption. Not only that, but all these would become much cheaper. Would the companies that produce them even be billion dollar companies anymore? Bob Clark ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Finally, nanotechnology can now fulfill its potential to revolutionize 21st-century technology, from the space elevator, to private, orbital launchers, to 'flying cars'. This crowdfunding campaign is to prove it: Nanotech: from air to space. https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/nanotech-from-air-to-space/x/13319568/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- --
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| From | jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com |
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| Date | 2017-07-12 17:54 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <sa4i3e-7r.ln1@mail.specsol.com> |
| In reply to | #468103 |
In sci.physics Robert Clark <rgregoryclark@gmspambloackail.com> wrote: <snip> > From the way I interpret what Ehteshami is saying, it mirrors something I've > been thinking. You can imagine not just cars being fully 3D-printed, but > entire airplanes, tractors, construction vehicles, refrigerators, air > conditioners, and everything else called "durable goods". But this would > mean nearly all manufacturing jobs would be replaced by 3D-printing > machines. That is a major economic disruption. Puerile nonsense. 3D printers make parts which need to be assembled into a finished item. The list of materials that can not and can never be printed is huge. How do you print a spring inside of something and under compression? > Not only that, but all these would become much cheaper. Would the companies > that produce them even be billion dollar companies anymore? Someone is watch too much scifi. -- Jim Pennino
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| From | "Robert Clark" <rgregoryclark@gmSPAMBLOACKail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-07-12 15:18 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <ok5seu$t61$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #468114 |
In sci.physics Robert Clark <rgregoryclark@gmspambloackail.com> wrote: > ><snip> > >> From the way I interpret what Ehteshami is saying, it mirrors something >> I've >> been thinking. You can imagine not just cars being fully 3D-printed, but >> entire airplanes, tractors, construction vehicles, refrigerators, air >> conditioners, and everything else called "durable goods". But this would >> mean nearly all manufacturing jobs would be replaced by 3D-printing >> machines. That is a major economic disruption. > >Puerile nonsense. > >3D printers make parts which need to be assembled into a finished item. > >The list of materials that can not and can never be printed is huge. > >How do you print a spring inside of something and under compression? > >> Not only that, but all these would become much cheaper. Would the >> companies >> that produce them even be billion dollar companies anymore? > >Someone is watch too much scifi. > > How do you interpret those two quotes of the head of GE's additive manufacturing division? Bob Clark ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Finally, nanotechnology can now fulfill its potential to revolutionize 21st-century technology, from the space elevator, to private, orbital launchers, to 'flying cars'. This crowdfunding campaign is to prove it: Nanotech: from air to space. https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/nanotech-from-air-to-space/x/13319568/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- --
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| From | jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com |
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| Date | 2017-07-12 20:00 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <qobi3e-ol1.ln1@mail.specsol.com> |
| In reply to | #468119 |
In sci.physics Robert Clark <rgregoryclark@gmspambloackail.com> wrote: > In sci.physics Robert Clark <rgregoryclark@gmspambloackail.com> wrote: >> >><snip> >> >>> From the way I interpret what Ehteshami is saying, it mirrors something >>> I've >>> been thinking. You can imagine not just cars being fully 3D-printed, but >>> entire airplanes, tractors, construction vehicles, refrigerators, air >>> conditioners, and everything else called "durable goods". But this would >>> mean nearly all manufacturing jobs would be replaced by 3D-printing >>> machines. That is a major economic disruption. >> >>Puerile nonsense. >> >>3D printers make parts which need to be assembled into a finished item. >> >>The list of materials that can not and can never be printed is huge. >> >>How do you print a spring inside of something and under compression? >> >>> Not only that, but all these would become much cheaper. Would the >>> companies >>> that produce them even be billion dollar companies anymore? >> >>Someone is watch too much scifi. >> >> > > How do you interpret those two quotes of the head of GE's additive > manufacturing division? That for some very particular applications, i.e. complex jet engines and rocket engines, parts count can be reduced because in some applications multiple parts can be replaced with one printed part. This is something most people have know for a very long time. How do you print a spring inside of something and under compression which you would need to do to be able to 3D print a vehicle? -- Jim Pennino
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| From | tabbypurr@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2017-07-12 17:53 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <db8cd6e6-d5b4-40ce-9335-0510eaf69d15@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #468122 |
On Wednesday, 12 July 2017 21:01:10 UTC+1, ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: > In sci.physics Robert Clark <rgregoryclark@gmspambloackail.com> wrote: > > In sci.physics Robert Clark <rgregoryclark@gmspambloackail.com> wrote: > >> > >><snip> > >> > >>> From the way I interpret what Ehteshami is saying, it mirrors something > >>> I've > >>> been thinking. You can imagine not just cars being fully 3D-printed, but > >>> entire airplanes, tractors, construction vehicles, refrigerators, air > >>> conditioners, and everything else called "durable goods". But this would > >>> mean nearly all manufacturing jobs would be replaced by 3D-printing > >>> machines. That is a major economic disruption. > >> > >>Puerile nonsense. > >> > >>3D printers make parts which need to be assembled into a finished item. > >> > >>The list of materials that can not and can never be printed is huge. > >> > >>How do you print a spring inside of something and under compression? > >> > >>> Not only that, but all these would become much cheaper. Would the > >>> companies > >>> that produce them even be billion dollar companies anymore? > >> > >>Someone is watch too much scifi. > >> > >> > > > > How do you interpret those two quotes of the head of GE's additive > > manufacturing division? > > That for some very particular applications, i.e. complex jet engines and > rocket engines, parts count can be reduced because in some applications > multiple parts can be replaced with one printed part. > > This is something most people have know for a very long time. > > How do you print a spring inside of something and under compression which > you would need to do to be able to 3D print a vehicle? Suspension can be made uncompressed and then compressed by the weight of the vehicle sitting on it. Whether 3d printers will ever be able to turn mild steel into a spring in situ I don't know. But since millions of vehicles have been produced with rubber suspension your objection is entirely bogus. NT
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| From | "Robert Clark" <rgregoryclark@gmSPAMBLOACKail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-07-12 11:42 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <ok5fqd$ij1$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #466689 |
An article from 2015: > >3-D-printed car could hit streets next year. Chris Woodyard, USA TODAY 4:48 >p.m. EST November 12, 2015 >http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/2015/11/10/3d-printed-car-local-motors-swim/75530830/ > >Several companies have come out with what they call "3D-printed" cars, but >none have 3D-printed the most important part, the engine. > >This would be difficult to do with an internal combustion engine, with its >high temperatures, multiple moving parts, and high tolerances. > >But it shouldn't be too difficult with an electric engine. In fact >considering there are now miniature 3D-printers on the market for the home, >an amateur could be the first to produce an entire, scale-size, 3D-printed >car. >And then it could be scaled up to produce a full-size, working, fully >3D-printed automobile. > >This would revolutionize the industry, obviously. > >The two most difficult parts would be the engine and the transmission. > >This video shows how you can make your own simple electric motor: > >How to Make an Electric Motor at Home - YouTube. >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0p2QTE26VOA > >Looking at the steps in the video, it appears they could all be >accomplished by 3D-printing. > > > Bob Clark > GE's only being able to mass produce a complex fuel nozzle by 3D-printing, suggests the usefulness of 3D-printing for mass production is dependent on the complexity of the part. Desktop Metal claims their production system could 3D-print one hundred small parts inches across in 4.5 hours, at a production cost of $4.25 each: Desktop Metal Production System. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUOCiRktuCo But what those parts could actually be sold for would be dependent on the complexity of the part, which is reflected in the sale price of the part. An example in this size range would be electric motors for radio controlled airplanes and drones. Depending on power rating, these small electric motors can still be priced in the hundreds of dollars range: Brushless Motors > Model Motors Brushless. http://www.radicalrc.com/category/Model-Motors-Brushless-113 The highest power rated motors listed there are priced at $200, while still being only inches across. So Desktop Metal 3D-printing 100 of these could sell them for a total of $20,000, while their production cost for the 100 would be only $425. This possibility, that the DM system could 3D-print the entire electric motor, could be tested by anyone who owns a Desktop Metal Studio machine due to be available this year for single part prototyping. If so, the Desktop Metal Production machine could pay for itself in 2 days to anyone who purchased it. Bob Clark ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Finally, nanotechnology can now fulfill its potential to revolutionize 21st-century technology, from the space elevator, to private, orbital launchers, to 'flying cars'. This crowdfunding campaign is to prove it: Nanotech: from air to space. https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/nanotech-from-air-to-space/x/13319568/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- --
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| From | "Robert Clark" <rgregoryclark@gmSPAMBLOACKail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-07-13 04:17 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <ok7a3f$np0$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #468104 |
> >GE's only being able to mass produce a complex fuel nozzle by 3D-printing, >suggests the usefulness of 3D-printing for mass production is dependent on >the complexity of the part. > >Desktop Metal claims their production system could 3D-print one hundred >small parts inches across in 4.5 hours, at a production cost of $4.25 each: > >Desktop Metal Production System. >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUOCiRktuCo > >But what those parts could actually be sold for would be dependent on the >complexity of the part, which is reflected in the sale price of the part. >An example in this size range would be electric motors for radio controlled >airplanes and drones. Depending on power rating, these small electric >motors can still be priced in the hundreds of dollars range: > >Brushless Motors > Model Motors Brushless. >http://www.radicalrc.com/category/Model-Motors-Brushless-113 > >The highest power rated motors listed there are priced at $200, while still >being only inches across. So Desktop Metal 3D-printing 100 of these could >sell them for a total of $20,000, while their production cost for the 100 >would be only $425. > >This possibility, that the DM system could 3D-print the entire electric >motor, could be tested by anyone who owns a Desktop Metal Studio machine >due to be available this year for single part prototyping. If so, the >Desktop Metal Production machine could pay for itself in 2 days to anyone >who purchased it. > > The Desktop Metal Production system could also 3D-print an electric car motor that's at a comparable power rating to the Tesla electric motor, at ca. 400 HP: AM Racing AMR Dual Stack 250-90 AC Motor - Liquid Cooled, Permanent Magnet - Remy [AMR 250-90D] Price: $18,488.00 http://www.evwest.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=8&products_id=300 Judging from $425 production cost for a run within the full production volume, this would likely be the comparable cost for a single large motor taking up the full production volume. That a complex expensive machine at a $18,000 sale price could be 3D-printed at only a $400 production cost, would be evidence for the imminent disruptive nature of 3D-printing to manufacturing and to its ability radically reduce costs. Bob Clark ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Finally, nanotechnology can now fulfill its potential to revolutionize 21st-century technology, from the space elevator, to private, orbital launchers, to 'flying cars'. This crowdfunding campaign is to prove it: Nanotech: from air to space. https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/nanotech-from-air-to-space/x/13319568/ ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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| From | kevin93 <kevin@whitedigs.com> |
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| Date | 2017-07-13 02:57 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <56fe2c24-be5f-4a4d-b073-740acab6617e@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #468198 |
On Thursday, July 13, 2017 at 1:17:37 AM UTC-7, Robert Clark wrote: ... > Judging from $425 production cost for a run within the full production > volume, this would likely be the comparable cost for a single large motor > taking up the full production volume. > > That a complex expensive machine at a $18,000 sale price could be 3D-printed > at only a $400 production cost, would be evidence for the imminent > disruptive nature of 3D-printing to manufacturing and to its ability > radically reduce costs. ... How do you do bearing surfaces with 3d printing - the resolution is limited and the surface finish would need machining? Surely magnetic materials and electrical conductors cannot be printed without significant compromise in the material parameters. kevin
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