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Tomorrow's battery medium

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First post2018-10-13 02:15 +0000
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  Tomorrow's battery medium DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org - 2018-10-13 02:15 +0000
    Re: Tomorrow's battery medium John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> - 2018-10-12 21:14 -0700
      Re: Tomorrow's battery medium gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com - 2018-10-12 22:39 -0700
        Re: Tomorrow's battery medium DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org - 2018-10-13 09:22 +0000
          Re: Tomorrow's battery medium Robert Baer <robertbaer@localnet.com> - 2018-10-13 23:00 -0700
            Re: Tomorrow's battery medium DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org - 2018-10-14 12:24 +0000
      Re: Tomorrow's battery medium bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2018-10-12 23:50 -0700
      Re: Tomorrow's battery medium DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org - 2018-10-13 09:13 +0000
      Re: Tomorrow's battery medium Cursitor Doom <curd@notformail.com> - 2018-10-13 10:47 +0000
        Re: Tomorrow's battery medium John Larkin <jjlarkin@highland_snip_technology.com> - 2018-10-13 15:19 -0700
          Re: Tomorrow's battery medium Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> - 2018-10-13 18:46 -0400
            Re: Tomorrow's battery medium John Larkin <jjlarkin@highland_snip_technology.com> - 2018-10-13 16:17 -0700
              Re: Tomorrow's battery medium krw@notreal.com - 2018-10-13 21:04 -0400
      Re: Tomorrow's battery medium Piglet <erichpwagner@hotmail.com> - 2018-10-13 13:42 +0100
        Re: Tomorrow's battery medium DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org - 2018-10-13 13:02 +0000
          Re: Tomorrow's battery medium bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2018-10-13 07:06 -0700
      Re: Tomorrow's battery medium whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-13 11:38 -0700
        Re: Tomorrow's battery medium Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> - 2018-10-13 15:05 -0400
          Re: Tomorrow's battery medium DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org - 2018-10-13 20:39 +0000
            Re: Tomorrow's battery medium Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> - 2018-10-13 17:27 -0400
        Re: Tomorrow's battery medium John Larkin <jjlarkin@highland_snip_technology.com> - 2018-10-13 16:14 -0700
          Re: Tomorrow's battery medium bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2018-10-13 16:56 -0700
          Re: Tomorrow's battery medium whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-14 00:32 -0700
            Re: Tomorrow's battery medium gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com - 2018-10-14 18:53 -0700
              Re: Tomorrow's battery medium tabbypurr@gmail.com - 2018-10-14 19:52 -0700
                Re: Tomorrow's battery medium bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2018-10-14 20:07 -0700
                Re: Tomorrow's battery medium gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com - 2018-10-14 21:22 -0700
                  Re: Tomorrow's battery medium tabbypurr@gmail.com - 2018-10-15 08:19 -0700
                    Re: Tomorrow's battery medium gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com - 2018-10-15 14:55 -0700
                      Re: Tomorrow's battery medium tabbypurr@gmail.com - 2018-10-15 16:21 -0700
                        Re: Tomorrow's battery medium gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com - 2018-10-15 21:17 -0700
                          Re: Tomorrow's battery medium tabbypurr@gmail.com - 2018-10-16 05:22 -0700
                            Re: Tomorrow's battery medium bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2018-10-16 06:57 -0700
                    Re: Tomorrow's battery medium bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2018-10-15 18:48 -0700
                Re: Tomorrow's battery medium whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-16 02:13 -0700
              Re: Tomorrow's battery medium DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org - 2018-10-15 03:17 +0000
              Re: Tomorrow's battery medium David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2018-10-15 09:56 +0200
                Re: Tomorrow's battery medium bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2018-10-15 03:48 -0700
                Re: Tomorrow's battery medium gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com - 2018-10-15 05:58 -0700
                  Re: Tomorrow's battery medium David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2018-10-15 16:34 +0200
                    Re: Tomorrow's battery medium gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com - 2018-10-15 08:09 -0700
                      Re: Tomorrow's battery medium <698839253X6D445TD@nospam.org> - 2018-10-15 16:55 +0000
                        Re: Tomorrow's battery medium tabbypurr@gmail.com - 2018-10-15 11:01 -0700
                        Re: Tomorrow's battery medium gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com - 2018-10-15 21:03 -0700
                          Re: Tomorrow's battery medium <698839253X6D445TD@nospam.org> - 2018-10-16 07:20 +0000
                            Re: Tomorrow's battery medium gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com - 2018-10-16 08:31 -0700
                              Re: Tomorrow's battery medium <698839253X6D445TD@nospam.org> - 2018-10-16 17:15 +0000
                        Re: Tomorrow's battery medium bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2018-10-16 06:17 -0700
                          Re: Tomorrow's battery medium makolber@yahoo.com - 2018-10-16 06:54 -0700
                            Re: Tomorrow's battery medium bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2018-10-16 07:12 -0700
                              Re: Tomorrow's battery medium makolber@yahoo.com - 2018-10-17 06:30 -0700
                                Re: Tomorrow's battery medium tabbypurr@gmail.com - 2018-10-17 12:00 -0700
                                  Re: Tomorrow's battery medium Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2018-10-17 20:02 +0000
                                    Re: Tomorrow's battery medium gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com - 2018-10-17 15:27 -0700
                                      Re: Tomorrow's battery medium Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2018-10-18 06:00 +0000
                                        Re: Tomorrow's battery medium bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2018-10-17 23:50 -0700
                                        Re: Tomorrow's battery medium tabbypurr@gmail.com - 2018-10-18 03:35 -0700
                                          Re: Tomorrow's battery medium bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2018-10-18 04:08 -0700
                                  Re: Tomorrow's battery medium bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2018-10-17 20:29 -0700
                                Re: Tomorrow's battery medium bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2018-10-17 20:05 -0700
                          Re: Tomorrow's battery medium <698839253X6D445TD@nospam.org> - 2018-10-16 17:15 +0000
                            Re: Tomorrow's battery medium tabbypurr@gmail.com - 2018-10-16 12:16 -0700
                              Re: Tomorrow's battery medium David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2018-10-17 10:43 +0200
                                Re: Tomorrow's battery medium <698839253X6D445TD@nospam.org> - 2018-10-17 10:44 +0000
                                Re: Tomorrow's battery medium tabbypurr@gmail.com - 2018-10-17 11:22 -0700
                                  Re: Tomorrow's battery medium bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2018-10-17 20:22 -0700
                      Re: Tomorrow's battery medium David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2018-10-16 13:35 +0200
                        Re: Tomorrow's battery medium gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com - 2018-10-16 10:08 -0700
                          Re: Tomorrow's battery medium David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2018-10-17 12:14 +0200
                            Re: Tomorrow's battery medium bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2018-10-17 05:33 -0700
                Re: Tomorrow's battery medium tabbypurr@gmail.com - 2018-10-15 09:02 -0700
                  Re: Tomorrow's battery medium gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com - 2018-10-15 15:00 -0700
                    Re: Tomorrow's battery medium tabbypurr@gmail.com - 2018-10-15 16:22 -0700
                    Re: Tomorrow's battery medium David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2018-10-16 14:52 +0200
                  Re: Tomorrow's battery medium bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2018-10-15 19:16 -0700
                    Re: Tomorrow's battery medium whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-16 02:30 -0700
                    Re: Tomorrow's battery medium DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org - 2018-10-16 12:00 +0000
                      Re: Tomorrow's battery medium tabbypurr@gmail.com - 2018-10-16 05:43 -0700
                        Re: Tomorrow's battery medium bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2018-10-16 06:46 -0700
                          Re: Tomorrow's battery medium DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org - 2018-10-16 15:16 +0000
                            Re: Tomorrow's battery medium Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2018-10-16 20:14 +0000
                              Re: Tomorrow's battery medium DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org - 2018-10-16 21:26 +0000
                                Re: Tomorrow's battery medium gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com - 2018-10-16 15:22 -0700
                                  Re: Tomorrow's battery medium krw@notreal.com - 2018-10-16 19:43 -0400
                                Re: Tomorrow's battery medium bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2018-10-16 19:33 -0700
                            Re: Tomorrow's battery medium bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2018-10-16 18:40 -0700
                  Re: Tomorrow's battery medium David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2018-10-16 14:44 +0200
                    Re: Tomorrow's battery medium bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2018-10-16 06:46 -0700
                      Re: Tomorrow's battery medium DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org - 2018-10-16 14:58 +0000
                        Re: Tomorrow's battery medium Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2018-10-16 20:31 +0000
                          Re: Tomorrow's battery medium DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org - 2018-10-16 21:31 +0000
                        Re: Tomorrow's battery medium bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2018-10-16 18:36 -0700
                          Re: Tomorrow's battery medium DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org - 2018-10-17 04:21 +0000
                            Re: Tomorrow's battery medium bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2018-10-16 23:56 -0700
                            Re: Tomorrow's battery medium tabbypurr@gmail.com - 2018-10-17 11:15 -0700
                              Re: Tomorrow's battery medium bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2018-10-17 20:18 -0700
                              Re: Tomorrow's battery medium DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org> - 2018-10-19 14:13 +0000
                                Re: Tomorrow's battery medium bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2018-10-19 16:56 -0700
                    Re: Tomorrow's battery medium tabbypurr@gmail.com - 2018-10-16 09:49 -0700
                      Re: Tomorrow's battery medium bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2018-10-16 19:28 -0700
                      Re: Tomorrow's battery medium David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2018-10-17 13:32 +0200
                        Re: Tomorrow's battery medium tabbypurr@gmail.com - 2018-10-17 11:58 -0700
                          Re: Tomorrow's battery medium whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-17 17:10 -0700
                            Re: Tomorrow's battery medium tabbypurr@gmail.com - 2018-10-17 19:07 -0700
                              Re: Tomorrow's battery medium bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2018-10-17 21:06 -0700
                          Re: Tomorrow's battery medium bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2018-10-17 19:54 -0700
                Re: Tomorrow's battery medium Clive Arthur <cliveta@nowaytoday.co.uk> - 2018-10-15 17:04 +0100
                  Re: Tomorrow's battery medium David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2018-10-16 14:59 +0200
          Re: Tomorrow's battery medium Lasse Langwadt Christensen <langwadt@fonz.dk> - 2018-10-14 09:31 -0700
            Re: Tomorrow's battery medium John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> - 2018-10-14 10:03 -0700
              Re: Tomorrow's battery medium Steve Wilson <no@spam.com> - 2018-10-14 17:55 +0000
                Re: Tomorrow's battery medium John Larkin <jjlarkin@highland_snip_technology.com> - 2018-10-14 12:47 -0700
                  Re: Tomorrow's battery medium bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2018-10-14 16:17 -0700
              Re: Tomorrow's battery medium <698839253X6D445TD@nospam.org> - 2018-10-14 18:06 +0000
            Re: Tomorrow's battery medium krw@notreal.com - 2018-10-14 14:33 -0400
      Re: Tomorrow's battery medium Clive Arthur <cliveta@nowaytoday.co.uk> - 2018-10-15 12:17 +0100
        Re: Tomorrow's battery medium <698839253X6D445TD@nospam.org> - 2018-10-15 11:34 +0000
        Re: Tomorrow's battery medium DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org - 2018-10-15 13:30 +0000
        Re: Tomorrow's battery medium <698839253X6D445TD@nospam.org> - 2018-10-18 06:28 +0000
          Re: Tomorrow's battery medium Jeroen Belleman <jeroen@nospam.please> - 2018-10-18 09:42 +0200
            Re: Tomorrow's battery medium bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2018-10-18 04:04 -0700
              Re: Tomorrow's battery medium Jeroen Belleman <jeroen@nospam.please> - 2018-10-18 14:23 +0200
                Re: Tomorrow's battery medium bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2018-10-18 20:15 -0700
            Re: Tomorrow's battery medium <698839253X6D445TD@nospam.org> - 2018-10-18 13:18 +0000
            Re: Tomorrow's battery medium Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2018-10-18 20:00 +0000
              Re: Tomorrow's battery medium whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-18 14:34 -0700
                Re: Tomorrow's battery medium Lasse Langwadt Christensen <langwadt@fonz.dk> - 2018-10-18 15:10 -0700
                  Re: Tomorrow's battery medium <698839253X6D445TD@nospam.org> - 2018-10-19 07:11 +0000
                Re: Tomorrow's battery medium bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2018-10-18 20:31 -0700
                  Re: Tomorrow's battery medium whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-19 14:14 -0700
                    Re: Tomorrow's battery medium bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2018-10-19 17:14 -0700
                      Re: Tomorrow's battery medium whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-19 20:20 -0700
                        Re: Tomorrow's battery medium bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2018-10-19 21:16 -0700
          Re: Tomorrow's battery medium George Herold <gherold@teachspin.com> - 2018-10-18 06:26 -0700
            Re: Tomorrow's battery medium bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2018-10-18 20:24 -0700
              Re: Tomorrow's battery medium <698839253X6D445TD@nospam.org> - 2018-10-19 07:11 +0000
              Re: Tomorrow's battery medium David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2018-10-19 09:21 +0200
                Re: Tomorrow's battery medium Jan Panteltje <pNaOnStPeAlMtje@yahoo.com> - 2018-10-19 07:37 +0000
                  Re: Tomorrow's battery medium bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2018-10-19 05:07 -0700
    Re: Tomorrow's battery medium John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> - 2018-10-13 08:42 -0700
      Re: Tomorrow's battery medium bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2018-10-13 16:50 -0700
      Re: Tomorrow's battery medium Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> - 2018-10-13 19:01 -0700
    Re: Tomorrow's battery medium Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> - 2018-10-13 17:28 -0700
      Re: Tomorrow's battery medium Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> - 2018-10-13 17:47 -0700
    Re: Tomorrow's battery medium Robert Baer <robertbaer@localnet.com> - 2018-10-13 22:53 -0700
    Re: Tomorrow's battery medium Alan Folmsbee <omnilobe@gmail.com> - 2018-10-14 11:59 -0700
      Re: Tomorrow's battery medium bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2018-10-14 16:14 -0700

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#519121 — Tomorrow's battery medium

FromDecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org
Date2018-10-13 02:15 +0000
SubjectTomorrow's battery medium
Message-ID<pprkf8$3lq$2@gioia.aioe.org>
This will change a lot.

<https://labsscience.wordpress.com/2018/10/12/korean-researchers-develop-
carbon-tube-catalyst/>

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#519125

FromJohn Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com>
Date2018-10-12 21:14 -0700
Message-ID<m1s2sd135runn6rfvgth96qauvq36bdge7@4ax.com>
In reply to#519121
On Sat, 13 Oct 2018 02:15:04 +0000 (UTC),
DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:

>This will change a lot.
>
><https://labsscience.wordpress.com/2018/10/12/korean-researchers-develop-
>carbon-tube-catalyst/>

Fuel cells have been hype since 1838. Probably always will be.

"The team developed a new process that minimizes heat treatment and
maximizes the production of Amp per hour..."

Amp per hour?




-- 

John Larkin         Highland Technology, Inc

lunatic fringe electronics 

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#519129

Fromgnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com
Date2018-10-12 22:39 -0700
Message-ID<d6e65191-71fc-4854-818c-efac18a8f56b@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#519125
On Saturday, October 13, 2018 at 12:14:25 AM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
> On Sat, 13 Oct 2018 02:15:04 +0000 (UTC),
> DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:
> 
> >This will change a lot.
> >
> ><https://labsscience.wordpress.com/2018/10/12/korean-researchers-develop-
> >carbon-tube-catalyst/>
> 
> Fuel cells have been hype since 1838. Probably always will be.
> 
> "The team developed a new process that minimizes heat treatment and
> maximizes the production of Amp per hour..."
> 
> Amp per hour?

"What's silly is than nobody here, except me so far, will even consider new ideas about internet security. Or new ideas about most anything.

Are my ideas stupid? Suggest something better. Playing around with
ideas is how design happens.

I guess people who do have ideas haven't time for usenet."

Some people can't follow their own advice. 

Rick C. 

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#519146

FromDecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org
Date2018-10-13 09:22 +0000
Message-ID<ppsdfr$1583$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#519129
gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com wrote in
news:d6e65191-71fc-4854-818c-efac18a8f56b@googlegroups.com: 

> On Saturday, October 13, 2018 at 12:14:25 AM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
>> On Sat, 13 Oct 2018 02:15:04 +0000 (UTC),
>> DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:
>> 
>> >This will change a lot.
>> >
>> ><https://labsscience.wordpress.com/2018/10/12/korean-researchers-
deve
>> >lop- carbon-tube-catalyst/>
>> 
>> Fuel cells have been hype since 1838. Probably always will be.
>> 
>> "The team developed a new process that minimizes heat treatment and
>> maximizes the production of Amp per hour..."
>> 
>> Amp per hour?
> 
> "What's silly is than nobody here, except me so far, will even
> consider new ideas about internet security. Or new ideas about most
> anything.

  There is hardware around that would have caught that hack if it ever 
got fired up.  It is called cybersecurity and they analyze the power 
signature of a rack of gear and can detect a hack by detecting the 
change in the signature.

  There are also state of the art true random number generators out 
there.  My Xeon laptop I type this on has hardware level security 
features.  But you'll likely deny they exist.
 
> 
> Are my ideas stupid?

  No.  The fact that you are unaware of what is already in the channel 
is pretty stupid though.  Makes you sound like SkyTard Flying.

http://helper.ipam.ucla.edu/publications/scws4/scws4_6650.pdf

https://www.pfpcyber.com/

> Suggest something better. Playing around with
> ideas is how design happens.

  Depending on whom is doing the playing.

> 
> I guess people who do have ideas haven't time for usenet."

  More flawed logic.
> 
> Some people can't follow their own advice. 

  You can't see the world unfold right in front of your face.

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#519235

FromRobert Baer <robertbaer@localnet.com>
Date2018-10-13 23:00 -0700
Message-ID<kYAwD.380990$YL3.279670@fx48.iad>
In reply to#519146
DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:
> gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com wrote in
> news:d6e65191-71fc-4854-818c-efac18a8f56b@googlegroups.com:
> 
>> On Saturday, October 13, 2018 at 12:14:25 AM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
>>> On Sat, 13 Oct 2018 02:15:04 +0000 (UTC),
>>> DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:
>>>
>>>> This will change a lot.
>>>>
>>>> <https://labsscience.wordpress.com/2018/10/12/korean-researchers-
> deve
>>>> lop- carbon-tube-catalyst/>
>>>
>>> Fuel cells have been hype since 1838. Probably always will be.
>>>
>>> "The team developed a new process that minimizes heat treatment and
>>> maximizes the production of Amp per hour..."
>>>
>>> Amp per hour?
>>
>> "What's silly is than nobody here, except me so far, will even
>> consider new ideas about internet security. Or new ideas about most
>> anything.
> 
>    There is hardware around that would have caught that hack if it ever
> got fired up.  It is called cybersecurity and they analyze the power
> signature of a rack of gear and can detect a hack by detecting the
> change in the signature.
> 
>    There are also state of the art true random number generators out
> there.  My Xeon laptop I type this on has hardware level security
> features.  But you'll likely deny they exist.
>   
>>
>> Are my ideas stupid?
> 
>    No.  The fact that you are unaware of what is already in the channel
> is pretty stupid though.  Makes you sound like SkyTard Flying.
> 
> http://helper.ipam.ucla.edu/publications/scws4/scws4_6650.pdf
> 
> https://www.pfpcyber.com/
* ASSumes the "blackbox had no undesirable modifications BEFORE the 
"security" blanket mod.

> 
>> Suggest something better. Playing around with
>> ideas is how design happens.
> 
>    Depending on whom is doing the playing.
> 
>>
>> I guess people who do have ideas haven't time for usenet."
> 
>    More flawed logic.
>>
>> Some people can't follow their own advice.
> 
>    You can't see the world unfold right in front of your face.
> 

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#519248

FromDecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org
Date2018-10-14 12:24 +0000
Message-ID<ppvci7$1qsn$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#519235
Robert Baer <robertbaer@localnet.com> wrote in news:kYAwD.380990$YL3.279670
@fx48.iad:

> * ASSumes the "blackbox had no undesirable modifications BEFORE the 
> "security" blanket mod.
> 

If the chip gets remotely activated and has yet to be...

  Perhaps it is you doing the ASS-fuming.

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#519133

Frombill.sloman@ieee.org
Date2018-10-12 23:50 -0700
Message-ID<ef541812-4507-4898-a67b-ba391a84b2cb@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#519125
On Saturday, October 13, 2018 at 3:14:25 PM UTC+11, John Larkin wrote:
> On Sat, 13 Oct 2018 02:15:04 +0000 (UTC),
> DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:
> 
> >This will change a lot.
> >
> ><https://labsscience.wordpress.com/2018/10/12/korean-researchers-develop-
> >carbon-tube-catalyst/>
> 
> Fuel cells have been hype since 1838. Probably always will be.

You have to take climate change seriously - as opposed to gullibly swallowing denialist propaganda - to realise that serious money is getting interested in the hydrogen economy, which does depend on fuel cells.

Lots of people are playing around with techniques for getting cheaper electrodes.
 
> "The team developed a new process that minimizes heat treatment and
> maximizes the production of Amp per hour..."
> 
> Amp per hour?

English language science journalists don't know enough about science to get units right. It's a bit rich when John Larkin - who doesn't know enough about science to know when he is being bamboozled by denialist pseudo-science - gets finicky about journalist's short-comings.

-- 
Bill Sloman, suydney

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#519144

FromDecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org
Date2018-10-13 09:13 +0000
Message-ID<ppscvn$145q$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#519125
John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> wrote in 
news:m1s2sd135runn6rfvgth96qauvq36bdge7@4ax.com:

> On Sat, 13 Oct 2018 02:15:04 +0000 (UTC),
> DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:
> 
>>This will change a lot.
>>
>><https://labsscience.wordpress.com/2018/10/12/korean-researchers-
develop-
>>carbon-tube-catalyst/>
> 
> Fuel cells have been hype since 1838. Probably always will be.
> 
> "The team developed a new process that minimizes heat treatment and
> maximizes the production of Amp per hour..."
> 
> Amp per hour?
> 
> 

  It is Korea, you ignorant ditz.  You cannot remember badly worded 
motherboard manuals, etc.?

  Your claim of electrical engineering knowledge has been hype ever 
since you first made it.

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#519153

FromCursitor Doom <curd@notformail.com>
Date2018-10-13 10:47 +0000
Message-ID<ppsif9$4m8$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#519125
On Fri, 12 Oct 2018 21:14:19 -0700, John Larkin wrote:

> Fuel cells have been hype since 1838. Probably always will be.
> 
> "The team developed a new process that minimizes heat treatment and
> maximizes the production of Amp per hour..."
> 
> Amp per hour?

"The production of Amp per hour"??




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#519190

FromJohn Larkin <jjlarkin@highland_snip_technology.com>
Date2018-10-13 15:19 -0700
Message-ID<pqr4sd516qf32cfosk2580dn7hhhkdiugb@4ax.com>
In reply to#519153
On Sat, 13 Oct 2018 10:47:05 -0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom
<curd@notformail.com> wrote:

>On Fri, 12 Oct 2018 21:14:19 -0700, John Larkin wrote:
>
>> Fuel cells have been hype since 1838. Probably always will be.
>> 
>> "The team developed a new process that minimizes heat treatment and
>> maximizes the production of Amp per hour..."
>> 
>> Amp per hour?
>
>"The production of Amp per hour"??

Amps per hour is dI/dT.




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picosecond timing   precision measurement 

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#519193

FromPhil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net>
Date2018-10-13 18:46 -0400
Message-ID<wuidnZi3JMMu6F_GnZ2dnUU7-IOdnZ2d@supernews.com>
In reply to#519190
On 10/13/18 6:19 PM, John Larkin wrote:
> On Sat, 13 Oct 2018 10:47:05 -0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom
> <curd@notformail.com> wrote:
> 
>> On Fri, 12 Oct 2018 21:14:19 -0700, John Larkin wrote:
>>
>>> Fuel cells have been hype since 1838. Probably always will be.
>>>
>>> "The team developed a new process that minimizes heat treatment and
>>> maximizes the production of Amp per hour..."
>>>
>>> Amp per hour?
>>
>> "The production of Amp per hour"??
> 
> Amps per hour is dI/dT.
> 
> 
> 
> 
Dare one suspect that the Korean middle-schooler didn't know the English 
term 'ampere-hour'?

Surely not, surely not.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

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Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510

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#519195

FromJohn Larkin <jjlarkin@highland_snip_technology.com>
Date2018-10-13 16:17 -0700
Message-ID<b6v4sdhb43ct1d449ubnot32n784kjlfkj@4ax.com>
In reply to#519193
On Sat, 13 Oct 2018 18:46:08 -0400, Phil Hobbs
<pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

>On 10/13/18 6:19 PM, John Larkin wrote:
>> On Sat, 13 Oct 2018 10:47:05 -0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom
>> <curd@notformail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> On Fri, 12 Oct 2018 21:14:19 -0700, John Larkin wrote:
>>>
>>>> Fuel cells have been hype since 1838. Probably always will be.
>>>>
>>>> "The team developed a new process that minimizes heat treatment and
>>>> maximizes the production of Amp per hour..."
>>>>
>>>> Amp per hour?
>>>
>>> "The production of Amp per hour"??
>> 
>> Amps per hour is dI/dT.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>Dare one suspect that the Korean middle-schooler didn't know the English 
>term 'ampere-hour'?
>
>Surely not, surely not.

More likely a graduate of a Korean journalism school.


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#519210

Fromkrw@notreal.com
Date2018-10-13 21:04 -0400
Message-ID<3g55sddru2f2na0ja9ua9qm1c52dknlomt@4ax.com>
In reply to#519195
On Sat, 13 Oct 2018 16:17:18 -0700, John Larkin
<jjlarkin@highland_snip_technology.com> wrote:

>On Sat, 13 Oct 2018 18:46:08 -0400, Phil Hobbs
><pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:
>
>>On 10/13/18 6:19 PM, John Larkin wrote:
>>> On Sat, 13 Oct 2018 10:47:05 -0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom
>>> <curd@notformail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On Fri, 12 Oct 2018 21:14:19 -0700, John Larkin wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Fuel cells have been hype since 1838. Probably always will be.
>>>>>
>>>>> "The team developed a new process that minimizes heat treatment and
>>>>> maximizes the production of Amp per hour..."
>>>>>
>>>>> Amp per hour?
>>>>
>>>> "The production of Amp per hour"??
>>> 
>>> Amps per hour is dI/dT.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>Dare one suspect that the Korean middle-schooler didn't know the English 
>>term 'ampere-hour'?
>>
>>Surely not, surely not.
>
>More likely a graduate of a Korean journalism school.

Or the NYT.

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#519155

FromPiglet <erichpwagner@hotmail.com>
Date2018-10-13 13:42 +0100
Message-ID<ppsp8d$sfp$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#519125
On 13/10/2018 05:14, John Larkin wrote:
>
> Amp per hour?
>

Misheard Ampere Hour ?

piglet



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#519156

FromDecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org
Date2018-10-13 13:02 +0000
Message-ID<ppsqdh$1srb$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#519155
Piglet <erichpwagner@hotmail.com> wrote in news:ppsp8d$sfp$1@dont-email.me:

> On 13/10/2018 05:14, John Larkin wrote:
>>
>> Amp per hour?
>>
> 
> Misheard Ampere Hour ?
> 
> piglet
> 
  Is everyone here devoid of common sense.

  I READ amp/hr and I SEE that it was written by a non-electrically 
knowledgeable journalist.

  Some of you guys are some slow motorvators (clean movie term for 
motherfuckers).

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#519159

Frombill.sloman@ieee.org
Date2018-10-13 07:06 -0700
Message-ID<55e721f4-c73a-4919-aa74-e141a27e21ee@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#519156
On Sunday, October 14, 2018 at 12:02:49 AM UTC+11, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
> Piglet <erichpwagner@hotmail.com> wrote in news:ppsp8d$sfp$1@dont-email.me:
> 
> > On 13/10/2018 05:14, John Larkin wrote:
> >>
> >> Amp per hour?
> >>
> > 
> > Misheard Ampere Hour ?
> > 
> > piglet
> > 
>   Is everyone here devoid of common sense.
> 
>   I READ amp/hr and I SEE that it was written by a non-electrically 
> knowledgeable journalist.
> 
>   Some of you guys are some slow motorvators (clean movie term for 
> motherfuckers).

It's not so much that John Larkin and Cursitor Doom are slow, but rather that they resent it when people talk about stuff they don't understand, and try and make themselves feel better by a little low-level nit-picking.

Of course they can't do high-level nit-picking (of the sort that Phil Hobbs can manage).

-- 
Bill Sloman, Sydney

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#519173

Fromwhit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com>
Date2018-10-13 11:38 -0700
Message-ID<b014f580-7686-48ec-95d6-bcc500296b21@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#519125
On Friday, October 12, 2018 at 9:14:25 PM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote:
> On Sat, 13 Oct 2018 02:15:04 +0000 (UTC),

> Fuel cells have been hype since 1838. Probably always will be.

No, (hydrogen) fuel cells are hardware.   Hype (hyperbole) is language style.

Hydrogen is not a common household item, but it's less dangerous than
(for instance) acetylene or 'town gas'.   Like steam, it works well in large
installations, but isn't a good way to power a submarine.

Power grids, spacecraft, and trains use fuel cells now; trucks are 
in the near-future, according to Toyota.

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#519174

FromPhil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net>
Date2018-10-13 15:05 -0400
Message-ID<5OidnWN3rpB73F_GnZ2dnUU7-XednZ2d@supernews.com>
In reply to#519173
On 10/13/18 2:38 PM, whit3rd wrote:
> On Friday, October 12, 2018 at 9:14:25 PM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote:
>> On Sat, 13 Oct 2018 02:15:04 +0000 (UTC),
> 
>> Fuel cells have been hype since 1838. Probably always will be.
> 
> No, (hydrogen) fuel cells are hardware.   Hype (hyperbole) is language style.
> 
> Hydrogen is not a common household item, but it's less dangerous than
> (for instance) acetylene or 'town gas'.   Like steam, it works well in large
> installations, but isn't a good way to power a submarine.

Of course nuclear subs are powered by steam. ;)

Cheers

Phil Hobbs



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ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510

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http://hobbs-eo.com

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#519183

FromDecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org
Date2018-10-13 20:39 +0000
Message-ID<pptl65$1b6c$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#519174
Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote in
news:5OidnWN3rpB73F_GnZ2dnUU7-XednZ2d@supernews.com: 
snip
> 
> Of course nuclear subs are powered by steam. ;)
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Phil Hobbs
> 
> 

  You may think it a joke, but that is a true statement.

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#519185

FromPhil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net>
Date2018-10-13 17:27 -0400
Message-ID<pfCdnZD8CtrH_l_GnZ2dnUU7-L2dnZ2d@supernews.com>
In reply to#519183
On 10/13/18 4:39 PM, DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:
> Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote in
> news:5OidnWN3rpB73F_GnZ2dnUU7-XednZ2d@supernews.com:
> snip
>>
>> Of course nuclear subs are powered by steam. ;)
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Phil Hobbs
>>
>>
> 
>    You may think it a joke, but that is a true statement.
> 
I know.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

-- 
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Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510

http://electrooptical.net
http://hobbs-eo.com

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