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Supermicro server motherboards with hardware backdoor?

Started byClifford Heath <no.spam@please.net>
First post2018-10-05 09:29 +1000
Last post2018-10-12 08:21 +0200
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  Supermicro server motherboards with hardware backdoor? Clifford Heath <no.spam@please.net> - 2018-10-05 09:29 +1000
    Re: Supermicro server motherboards with hardware backdoor? Chris <xxx.syseng.yyy@gfsys.co.uk> - 2018-10-05 01:14 +0100
    Re: Supermicro server motherboards with hardware backdoor? gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com - 2018-10-04 19:31 -0700
    Re: Supermicro server motherboards with hardware backdoor? Jan Panteltje <pNaOnStPeAlMtje@yahoo.com> - 2018-10-05 07:27 +0000
      Re: Supermicro server motherboards with hardware backdoor? Gene Filatov <evgeny.filatov@ieee.org> - 2018-10-05 11:12 +0300
        Re: Supermicro server motherboards with hardware backdoor? Jan Panteltje <pNaOnStPeAlMtje@yahoo.com> - 2018-10-05 08:41 +0000
    Re: Supermicro server motherboards with hardware backdoor? Theo Markettos <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2018-10-05 16:28 +0100
      Re: Supermicro server motherboards with hardware backdoor? Rob Gaddi <rgaddi@highlandtechnology.invalid> - 2018-10-05 09:34 -0700
        Re: Supermicro server motherboards with hardware backdoor? Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2018-10-05 20:59 +0100
          Re: Supermicro server motherboards with hardware backdoor? gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com - 2018-10-05 14:19 -0700
            Re: Supermicro server motherboards with hardware backdoor? Chris <xxx.syseng.yyy@gfsys.co.uk> - 2018-10-05 23:44 +0100
              Re: Supermicro server motherboards with hardware backdoor? Clifford Heath <no.spam@please.net> - 2018-10-06 09:58 +1000
                Re: Supermicro server motherboards with hardware backdoor? Steve Wilson <no@spam.com> - 2018-10-06 00:39 +0000
                  Re: Supermicro server motherboards with hardware backdoor? Clifford Heath <no.spam@please.net> - 2018-10-06 12:50 +1000
                    Re: Supermicro server motherboards with hardware backdoor? DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org - 2018-10-06 08:42 +0000
                      Re: Supermicro server motherboards with hardware backdoor? Clifford Heath <no.spam@please.net> - 2018-10-06 21:41 +1000
                        Re: Supermicro server motherboards with hardware backdoor? DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org - 2018-10-06 14:59 +0000
                          Re: Supermicro server motherboards with hardware backdoor? Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> - 2018-10-06 09:10 -0700
                            Re: Supermicro server motherboards with hardware backdoor? DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org - 2018-10-06 16:44 +0000
                            Re: Supermicro server motherboards with hardware backdoor? DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org - 2018-10-06 16:46 +0000
                            Re: Supermicro server motherboards with hardware backdoor? gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com - 2018-10-06 19:34 -0700
                    Re: Supermicro server motherboards with hardware backdoor? Rob <nomail@example.com> - 2018-10-06 13:46 +0000
                  Re: Supermicro server motherboards with hardware backdoor? gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com - 2018-10-06 05:12 -0700
                Re: Supermicro server motherboards with hardware backdoor? gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com - 2018-10-06 04:36 -0700
              Re: Supermicro server motherboards with hardware backdoor? Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> - 2018-10-06 14:50 -0400
                Re: Supermicro server motherboards with hardware backdoor? gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com - 2018-10-06 19:43 -0700
                  Re: Supermicro server motherboards with hardware backdoor? Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> - 2018-10-08 13:58 -0400
                    Re: Supermicro server motherboards with hardware backdoor? gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com - 2018-10-08 20:04 -0700
                      Re: Supermicro server motherboards with hardware backdoor? DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org - 2018-10-09 07:03 +0000
                        Re: Supermicro server motherboards with hardware backdoor? Chris <xxx.syseng.yyy@gfsys.co.uk> - 2018-10-09 12:13 +0100
                          Re: Supermicro server motherboards with hardware backdoor? DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org - 2018-10-09 22:52 +0000
                        Re: Supermicro server motherboards with hardware backdoor? Clifford Heath <no.spam@please.net> - 2018-10-10 10:06 +1100
                          Re: Supermicro server motherboards with hardware backdoor? gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com - 2018-10-10 19:06 -0700
                        Re: Supermicro server motherboards with hardware backdoor? gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com - 2018-10-10 18:43 -0700
                          Re: Supermicro server motherboards with hardware backdoor? DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org - 2018-10-11 12:16 +0000
                            Re: Supermicro server motherboards with hardware backdoor? Gerhard Hoffmann <ghf@hoffmann-hochfrequenz.de> - 2018-10-11 14:50 +0200
                              Re: Supermicro server motherboards with hardware backdoor? DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org - 2018-10-11 13:51 +0000
                                Re: Supermicro server motherboards with hardware backdoor? gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com - 2018-10-11 08:35 -0700
                                  Re: Supermicro server motherboards with hardware backdoor? DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org - 2018-10-11 15:56 +0000
                                    Re: Supermicro server motherboards with hardware backdoor? gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com - 2018-10-11 13:24 -0700
                                      Re: Supermicro server motherboards with hardware backdoor? DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org - 2018-10-11 21:24 +0000
                                        Re: Supermicro server motherboards with hardware backdoor? gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com - 2018-10-11 20:43 -0700
                                          Re: Supermicro server motherboards with hardware backdoor? DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org - 2018-10-12 07:38 +0000
                                            Re: Supermicro server motherboards with hardware backdoor? gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com - 2018-10-12 08:55 -0700
                                              Re: Supermicro server motherboards with hardware backdoor? DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org - 2018-10-12 16:48 +0000
                                                Re: Supermicro server motherboards with hardware backdoor? gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com - 2018-10-12 10:22 -0700
                                              Re: Supermicro server motherboards with hardware backdoor? DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org - 2018-10-12 16:49 +0000
                                              Re: Supermicro server motherboards with hardware backdoor? DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org - 2018-10-12 16:53 +0000
                                                Re: Supermicro server motherboards with hardware backdoor? gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com - 2018-10-12 10:27 -0700
                                                  Re: Supermicro server motherboards with hardware backdoor? DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org - 2018-10-12 23:46 +0000
                                                    Re: Supermicro server motherboards with hardware backdoor? gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com - 2018-10-12 17:10 -0700
                                                      Re: Supermicro server motherboards with hardware backdoor? DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org - 2018-10-13 02:13 +0000
                                                        Re: Supermicro server motherboards with hardware backdoor? gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com - 2018-10-12 22:29 -0700
                                                          Re: Supermicro server motherboards with hardware backdoor? DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org - 2018-10-13 09:14 +0000
                                                            Re: Supermicro server motherboards with hardware backdoor? +++ATH0 <news@ringpiece.local> - 2018-10-13 14:29 -0700
                                                              Re: Supermicro server motherboards with hardware backdoor? Chris <xxx.syseng.yyy@gfsys.co.uk> - 2018-10-15 16:27 +0100
                              Re: Supermicro server motherboards with hardware backdoor? gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com - 2018-10-11 08:28 -0700
                            Re: Supermicro server motherboards with hardware backdoor? gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com - 2018-10-11 08:27 -0700
                Re: Supermicro server motherboards with hardware backdoor? Clifford Heath <no.spam@please.net> - 2018-10-10 10:04 +1100
                  Re: Supermicro server motherboards with hardware backdoor? pcdhobbs@gmail.com - 2018-10-10 06:47 -0700
                    Re: Supermicro server motherboards with hardware backdoor? gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com - 2018-10-10 19:01 -0700
            Re: Supermicro server motherboards with hardware backdoor? <698839253X6D445TD@nospam.org> - 2018-10-06 06:03 +0000
              Re: Supermicro server motherboards with hardware backdoor? gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com - 2018-10-06 05:17 -0700
                Re: Supermicro server motherboards with hardware backdoor? <698839253X6D445TD@nospam.org> - 2018-10-06 15:38 +0000
                  Re: Supermicro server motherboards with hardware backdoor? gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com - 2018-10-06 19:14 -0700
                    Re: Supermicro server motherboards with hardware backdoor? <698839253X6D445TD@nospam.org> - 2018-10-07 07:15 +0000
                      Re: Supermicro server motherboards with hardware backdoor? gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com - 2018-10-07 08:13 -0700
            Re: Supermicro server motherboards with hardware backdoor? <698839253X6D445TD@nospam.org> - 2018-10-20 07:07 +0000
      Re: Supermicro server motherboards with hardware backdoor? Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> - 2018-10-05 20:12 -0700
        Re: Supermicro server motherboards with hardware backdoor? Clifford Heath <no.spam@please.net> - 2018-10-06 13:42 +1000
          Re: Supermicro server motherboards with hardware backdoor? Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> - 2018-10-05 21:02 -0700
          Re: Supermicro server motherboards with hardware backdoor? <698839253X6D445TD@nospam.org> - 2018-10-06 06:03 +0000
        Re: Supermicro server motherboards with hardware backdoor? DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org - 2018-10-06 08:45 +0000
          Re: Supermicro server motherboards with hardware backdoor? Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> - 2018-10-06 08:51 -0700
            Re: Supermicro server motherboards with hardware backdoor? DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org - 2018-10-06 16:42 +0000
              Re: Supermicro server motherboards with hardware backdoor? Dimiter_Popoff <dp@tgi-sci.com> - 2018-10-06 19:55 +0300
                Re: Supermicro server motherboards with hardware backdoor? Chris <xxx.syseng.yyy@gfsys.co.uk> - 2018-10-06 19:29 +0100
                  Re: Supermicro server motherboards with hardware backdoor? DLUNU <DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@DLU.org> - 2018-10-06 22:41 +0000
                    Re: Supermicro server motherboards with hardware backdoor? Dimiter_Popoff <dp@tgi-sci.com> - 2018-10-07 02:07 +0300
                    Re: Supermicro server motherboards with hardware backdoor? Clifford Heath <no.spam@please.net> - 2018-10-07 11:56 +1100
                      Re: Supermicro server motherboards with hardware backdoor? gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com - 2018-10-06 20:06 -0700
                      Re: Supermicro server motherboards with hardware backdoor? Johnny B Good <johnny-b-good@invalid.ntlworld.com> - 2018-10-07 03:46 +0000
                        Re: Supermicro server motherboards with hardware backdoor? gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com - 2018-10-06 22:04 -0700
                Re: Supermicro server motherboards with hardware backdoor? DLUNU <DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@DLU.org> - 2018-10-06 22:40 +0000
                  Re: Supermicro server motherboards with hardware backdoor? Dimiter_Popoff <dp@tgi-sci.com> - 2018-10-07 02:05 +0300
                  Re: Supermicro server motherboards with hardware backdoor? Chris <xxx.syseng.yyy@gfsys.co.uk> - 2018-10-07 01:36 +0100
              Re: Supermicro server motherboards with hardware backdoor? Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> - 2018-10-06 20:14 -0700
                Re: Supermicro server motherboards with hardware backdoor? Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2018-10-07 08:07 +0100
                Re: Supermicro server motherboards with hardware backdoor? DLUNU <DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@DLU.org> - 2018-10-07 14:09 +0000
                  Re: Supermicro server motherboards with hardware backdoor? Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> - 2018-10-07 08:55 -0700
                    Re: Supermicro server motherboards with hardware backdoor? DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org - 2018-10-08 00:50 +0000
                    Re: Supermicro server motherboards with hardware backdoor? DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org - 2018-10-08 00:51 +0000
            Re: Supermicro server motherboards with hardware backdoor? gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com - 2018-10-06 19:23 -0700
              Re: Supermicro server motherboards with hardware backdoor? DLUNU <DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@DLU.org> - 2018-10-07 13:52 +0000
                Re: Supermicro server motherboards with hardware backdoor? gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com - 2018-10-07 08:18 -0700
                  Re: Supermicro server motherboards with hardware backdoor? DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org - 2018-10-08 00:52 +0000
                  Re: Supermicro server motherboards with hardware backdoor? DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org - 2018-10-08 00:54 +0000
                    Re: Supermicro server motherboards with hardware backdoor? gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com - 2018-10-07 22:20 -0700
                      Re: Supermicro server motherboards with hardware backdoor? DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org - 2018-10-08 08:20 +0000
                      Re: Supermicro server motherboards with hardware backdoor? Cows are Nice <nice@cows.moo> - 2018-10-08 08:19 -0700
                        Re: Supermicro server motherboards with hardware backdoor? Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> - 2018-10-08 10:30 -0700
                          Re: Supermicro server motherboards with hardware backdoor? gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com - 2018-10-08 19:57 -0700
                            Re: Supermicro server motherboards with hardware backdoor? DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org - 2018-10-09 06:51 +0000
        Re: Supermicro server motherboards with hardware backdoor? DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org - 2018-10-06 08:50 +0000
    Re: Supermicro server motherboards with hardware backdoor? jurb6006@gmail.com - 2018-10-11 07:14 -0700
    Re: Supermicro server motherboards with hardware backdoor? Philipp Klaus Krause <pkk@spth.de> - 2018-10-12 08:21 +0200

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#518998

FromDecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org
Date2018-10-11 21:24 +0000
Message-ID<ppof33$17e9$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#518997
gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com wrote in
news:9e0d1505-dc1d-49eb-a2ce-74c0b4ad30f0@googlegroups.com: 

> On Thursday, October 11, 2018 at 11:56:36 AM UTC-4,
> DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote: 
>> gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com wrote in
>> news:5a7cae3e-b003-4a4f-a0df-a52bbc6c0968@googlegroups.com: 
>> 
>> >  They can have centrifuges,
>> 
>>   Not required to produce power.
>> 
>> >the degree of enrichment of uranium is
>> >  limited so they have to allow inspections of their entire
>> >  facilities. 
>> 
>>   Which they fail to do.  Where have you been?  They are not trying
>>   to ma 
> ke 
>> power.  They are trying to make bombs.
>> 
>>   They have ICBMs in "tunnel bases" miles long underground, ready to
>>   pop 
> up 
>> and light up as desired.
>> 
>>   You are really lost about what some really nasty Iranians are up
>>   to. 
>> (most of) The people are fine except for being badly misled.  The
>> militar 
> y 
>> dorks making the bombs are the ones you need to be worried about.
> 
> If they didn't allow inspections they would be in violation of the
> treaty that is still in place with the rest of the world and everyone
> else would be lining up new sanctions against them instead of telling
> us our sanctions are out of line. 
> 
> Here is a report from May this year, "White House National Security
> Adviser John Bolton revealed on Tuesday that Iran repeatedly violated
> the 2015 nuclear deal, contradicting statements by U.S. intelligence
> officials that Tehran was in compliance with the now-jettisoned
> accord".  So Bolton, a single US official says they were in volation
> without sharing exactly how while everyone else in the US said Iran
> was in compliance. 
> 
> As usual you either have not looked for any facts or ignored the ones
> you found and didn't like.  Once again, wrong, as always. 
> 
> Rick C.
> 

You are the idiot.  Iran has been denying US Nuclear Watchdog inspection 
calls.  They openly state that the sites are off limits, and sorry, 
punk...  but that is a violation.

  Cite the reports of compliance.  Oh...  that's right...  you can't.

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#519023

Fromgnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com
Date2018-10-11 20:43 -0700
Message-ID<59d0caea-ed5f-4adf-a945-9820cc1b6682@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#518998
On Thursday, October 11, 2018 at 5:24:57 PM UTC-4, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
> gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com wrote in
> news:9e0d1505-dc1d-49eb-a2ce-74c0b4ad30f0@googlegroups.com: 
> 
> > On Thursday, October 11, 2018 at 11:56:36 AM UTC-4,
> > DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote: 
> >> gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com wrote in
> >> news:5a7cae3e-b003-4a4f-a0df-a52bbc6c0968@googlegroups.com: 
> >> 
> >> >  They can have centrifuges,
> >> 
> >>   Not required to produce power.
> >> 
> >> >the degree of enrichment of uranium is
> >> >  limited so they have to allow inspections of their entire
> >> >  facilities. 
> >> 
> >>   Which they fail to do.  Where have you been?  They are not trying
> >>   to ma 
> > ke 
> >> power.  They are trying to make bombs.
> >> 
> >>   They have ICBMs in "tunnel bases" miles long underground, ready to
> >>   pop 
> > up 
> >> and light up as desired.
> >> 
> >>   You are really lost about what some really nasty Iranians are up
> >>   to. 
> >> (most of) The people are fine except for being badly misled.  The
> >> militar 
> > y 
> >> dorks making the bombs are the ones you need to be worried about.
> > 
> > If they didn't allow inspections they would be in violation of the
> > treaty that is still in place with the rest of the world and everyone
> > else would be lining up new sanctions against them instead of telling
> > us our sanctions are out of line. 
> > 
> > Here is a report from May this year, "White House National Security
> > Adviser John Bolton revealed on Tuesday that Iran repeatedly violated
> > the 2015 nuclear deal, contradicting statements by U.S. intelligence
> > officials that Tehran was in compliance with the now-jettisoned
> > accord".  So Bolton, a single US official says they were in volation
> > without sharing exactly how while everyone else in the US said Iran
> > was in compliance. 
> > 
> > As usual you either have not looked for any facts or ignored the ones
> > you found and didn't like.  Once again, wrong, as always. 
> > 
> > Rick C.
> > 
> 
> You are the idiot.  Iran has been denying US Nuclear Watchdog inspection 
> calls.  They openly state that the sites are off limits, and sorry, 
> punk...  but that is a violation.
> 
>   Cite the reports of compliance.  Oh...  that's right...  you can't.

Already did.  Cite the reports of non-compliance.  

Rick C. 

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#519037

FromDecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org
Date2018-10-12 07:38 +0000
Message-ID<pppj1r$n65$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#519023
gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com wrote in
news:59d0caea-ed5f-4adf-a945-9820cc1b6682@googlegroups.com: 

> On Thursday, October 11, 2018 at 5:24:57 PM UTC-4,
> DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote: 
>> gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com wrote in
>> news:9e0d1505-dc1d-49eb-a2ce-74c0b4ad30f0@googlegroups.com: 
>> 
>> > On Thursday, October 11, 2018 at 11:56:36 AM UTC-4,
>> > DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote: 
>> >> gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com wrote in
>> >> news:5a7cae3e-b003-4a4f-a0df-a52bbc6c0968@googlegroups.com: 
>> >> 
>> >> >  They can have centrifuges,
>> >> 
>> >>   Not required to produce power.
>> >> 
>> >> >the degree of enrichment of uranium is
>> >> >  limited so they have to allow inspections of their entire
>> >> >  facilities. 
>> >> 
>> >>   Which they fail to do.  Where have you been?  They are not
>> >>   trying to ma 
>> > ke 
>> >> power.  They are trying to make bombs.
>> >> 
>> >>   They have ICBMs in "tunnel bases" miles long underground, ready
>> >>   to pop 
>> > up 
>> >> and light up as desired.
>> >> 
>> >>   You are really lost about what some really nasty Iranians are up
>> >>   to. 
>> >> (most of) The people are fine except for being badly misled.  The
>> >> militar 
>> > y 
>> >> dorks making the bombs are the ones you need to be worried about.
>> > 
>> > If they didn't allow inspections they would be in violation of the
>> > treaty that is still in place with the rest of the world and
>> > everyone else would be lining up new sanctions against them instead
>> > of telling us our sanctions are out of line. 
>> > 
>> > Here is a report from May this year, "White House National Security
>> > Adviser John Bolton revealed on Tuesday that Iran repeatedly
>> > violated the 2015 nuclear deal, contradicting statements by U.S.
>> > intelligence officials that Tehran was in compliance with the
>> > now-jettisoned accord".  So Bolton, a single US official says they
>> > were in volation without sharing exactly how while everyone else in
>> > the US said Iran was in compliance. 
>> > 
>> > As usual you either have not looked for any facts or ignored the
>> > ones you found and didn't like.  Once again, wrong, as always. 
>> > 
>> > Rick C.
>> > 
>> 
>> You are the idiot.  Iran has been denying US Nuclear Watchdog
>> inspection calls.  They openly state that the sites are off limits,
>> and sorry, punk...  but that is a violation.
>> 
>>   Cite the reports of compliance.  Oh...  that's right...  you can't.
> 
> Already did.  Cite the reports of non-compliance.  
> 
> Rick C. 
> 

  It is real simple, simpleton. Google:

"is Iran allowing inspections"

and you will see how stupid you are.

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#519058

Fromgnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com
Date2018-10-12 08:55 -0700
Message-ID<10460098-2888-4661-9528-fa7e1bedb7fb@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#519037
On Friday, October 12, 2018 at 3:38:40 AM UTC-4, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
> gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com wrote in
> news:59d0caea-ed5f-4adf-a945-9820cc1b6682@googlegroups.com: 
> 
> > On Thursday, October 11, 2018 at 5:24:57 PM UTC-4,
> > DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote: 
> >> gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com wrote in
> >> news:9e0d1505-dc1d-49eb-a2ce-74c0b4ad30f0@googlegroups.com: 
> >> 
> >> > On Thursday, October 11, 2018 at 11:56:36 AM UTC-4,
> >> > DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote: 
> >> >> gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com wrote in
> >> >> news:5a7cae3e-b003-4a4f-a0df-a52bbc6c0968@googlegroups.com: 
> >> >> 
> >> >> >  They can have centrifuges,
> >> >> 
> >> >>   Not required to produce power.
> >> >> 
> >> >> >the degree of enrichment of uranium is
> >> >> >  limited so they have to allow inspections of their entire
> >> >> >  facilities. 
> >> >> 
> >> >>   Which they fail to do.  Where have you been?  They are not
> >> >>   trying to ma 
> >> > ke 
> >> >> power.  They are trying to make bombs.
> >> >> 
> >> >>   They have ICBMs in "tunnel bases" miles long underground, ready
> >> >>   to pop 
> >> > up 
> >> >> and light up as desired.
> >> >> 
> >> >>   You are really lost about what some really nasty Iranians are up
> >> >>   to. 
> >> >> (most of) The people are fine except for being badly misled.  The
> >> >> militar 
> >> > y 
> >> >> dorks making the bombs are the ones you need to be worried about.
> >> > 
> >> > If they didn't allow inspections they would be in violation of the
> >> > treaty that is still in place with the rest of the world and
> >> > everyone else would be lining up new sanctions against them instead
> >> > of telling us our sanctions are out of line. 
> >> > 
> >> > Here is a report from May this year, "White House National Security
> >> > Adviser John Bolton revealed on Tuesday that Iran repeatedly
> >> > violated the 2015 nuclear deal, contradicting statements by U.S.
> >> > intelligence officials that Tehran was in compliance with the
> >> > now-jettisoned accord".  So Bolton, a single US official says they
> >> > were in volation without sharing exactly how while everyone else in
> >> > the US said Iran was in compliance. 
> >> > 
> >> > As usual you either have not looked for any facts or ignored the
> >> > ones you found and didn't like.  Once again, wrong, as always. 
> >> > 
> >> > Rick C.
> >> > 
> >> 
> >> You are the idiot.  Iran has been denying US Nuclear Watchdog
> >> inspection calls.  They openly state that the sites are off limits,
> >> and sorry, punk...  but that is a violation.
> >> 
> >>   Cite the reports of compliance.  Oh...  that's right...  you can't.
> > 
> > Already did.  Cite the reports of non-compliance.  
> > 
> > Rick C. 
> > 
> 
>   It is real simple, simpleton. Google:
> 
> "is Iran allowing inspections"
> 
> and you will see how stupid you are.

I'm not interested in doing your research for you.  I did search enough to find that what you accept as gospel is just Trump's henchmen trying and failing to justify leaving the accord.  

Trump claims Iran is violating the agreement without offering any proof which seems to be good enough for you.  He does this in contradiction of his administration saying Iran is in compliance.  From an article in the LA Times, 

"Trump has argued that Iran is violating the agreement struck under President Obama, although he has offered no evidence to support his claim and his administration has twice certified to Congress that Iran is in compliance." 

Not allowing the US to inspect military sites is not the same thing as violating the agreement because the US doesn't inspect anything under the accord.  The inspections are done by IAEA inspectors.  

"Inspectors with the International Atomic Energy Agency, the United Nations organization tasked with monitoring Iran's nuclear facilities, have not requested access to military sites since the agreement went into effect, according to experts monitoring the process."

http://www.latimes.com/world/asia/la-fg-iran-nuclear-20170830-story.html

As usual Trump is spreading fake news and is just plain lying about the issues to get what he wants.  

I've explained it to you in very simple terms that even a child can understand, do you feel stupid now?  Probably not because you seem to live in the Trump zone where you twist any facts that don't suit your views. 

Rick C.

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#519066

FromDecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org
Date2018-10-12 16:48 +0000
Message-ID<ppqj88$in6$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#519058
gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com wrote in news:10460098-2888-4661-9528-
fa7e1bedb7fb@googlegroups.com:

> I'm not interested in doing your research for you. 

You are a goddamned retard.  The search result starts with and is filled 
with articles about their denials of access.

  YOU...  You are a pussy and a liar, boy.

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#519072

Fromgnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com
Date2018-10-12 10:22 -0700
Message-ID<f864d7c0-1c7a-426c-b4de-3b180a12ec1f@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#519066
On Friday, October 12, 2018 at 12:48:15 PM UTC-4, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
> gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com wrote in news:10460098-2888-4661-9528-
> fa7e1bedb7fb@googlegroups.com:
> 
> > I'm not interested in doing your research for you. 
> 
> You are a goddamned retard.  The search result starts with and is filled 
> with articles about their denials of access.
> 
>   YOU...  You are a pussy and a liar, boy.

Yes, Iran has said they won't allow inspections of military bases.  BUT NO ONE INVOLVED IN IAEA INSPECTIONS HAS SAID THEY WANT TO INSPECT MILITARY BASES!!! 

You can read this for yourself... assuming you can read.  Or you can choose to remain ignorant of the facts.  I think your choice is pretty obvious.  

Many are ignorant, usually because they simply have not yet looked.  But there are none so blind as those who refuse to see. 

Rick C. 

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#519068

FromDecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org
Date2018-10-12 16:49 +0000
Message-ID<ppqjao$in6$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#519058
gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com wrote in
news:10460098-2888-4661-9528-fa7e1bedb7fb@googlegroups.com: 

>  I did search enough to find that what you accept as gospel is just
>  Trump's henchmen 

  You are an idiot.  They have been denying access for years and long 
before Trump.

  Oh and I am not a Trump supporter so don't even go there, you stupid, 
horse blinder wearing dumbfuck.

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#519069

FromDecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org
Date2018-10-12 16:53 +0000
Message-ID<ppqjhv$jdi$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#519058
gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com wrote in
news:10460098-2888-4661-9528-fa7e1bedb7fb@googlegroups.com: 

>  Probably not because you seem to live in the Trump zone where you
>  twist any facts that don't suit your views. 

You are an idiot and a simple review of my posts would reveal to you that I 
am in no way any kind of supporter of Trump.

  You are an even more presumptuous dumbfuck than the Trump supporters are 
when they call me a liberal.

  You are a blind as a bat idiot looking for places to point fingers 
instead of looking at real facts.

  Real fact:  Iran has nuclear facilities for making bombs not power 
stations.

  Real fact:  That is unacceptable.

  Real Fact:  Complacent, retarded dipshits like you have ignored these 
facts for decades.

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#519073

Fromgnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com
Date2018-10-12 10:27 -0700
Message-ID<b63e9621-be03-425a-bf25-b1a60fccf848@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#519069
On Friday, October 12, 2018 at 12:53:25 PM UTC-4, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
> gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com wrote in
> news:10460098-2888-4661-9528-fa7e1bedb7fb@googlegroups.com: 
> 
> >  Probably not because you seem to live in the Trump zone where you
> >  twist any facts that don't suit your views. 
> 
> You are an idiot and a simple review of my posts would reveal to you that I 
> am in no way any kind of supporter of Trump.
> 
>   You are an even more presumptuous dumbfuck than the Trump supporters are 
> when they call me a liberal.
> 
>   You are a blind as a bat idiot looking for places to point fingers 
> instead of looking at real facts.
> 
>   Real fact:  Iran has nuclear facilities for making bombs not power 
> stations.
> 
>   Real fact:  That is unacceptable.
> 
>   Real Fact:  Complacent, retarded dipshits like you have ignored these 
> facts for decades.

OMG!  Three replies to one post.  Obviously I am challenging your world view.  

Please show me references that support your alleged "facts".  I know you won't because they don't exist.  More importantly you don't care if they exist in the real world because they exist in your mind.  That's good enough for you.  

Lol  You are so funny sometimes. 

Rick C. 

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#519101

FromDecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org
Date2018-10-12 23:46 +0000
Message-ID<pprbo8$1p1a$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#519073
gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com wrote in
news:b63e9621-be03-425a-bf25-b1a60fccf848@googlegroups.com: 

> OMG!  Three replies to one post.  Obviously I am challenging your
> world view.  
> 

You make the most retarded observations in the world.
This one is no exception.

  You are a dung beetle.  A challenge to no one or no thing.

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#519108

Fromgnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com
Date2018-10-12 17:10 -0700
Message-ID<06e98cb2-6369-4d32-936c-c6b669a3784c@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#519101
On Friday, October 12, 2018 at 7:46:22 PM UTC-4, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
> gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com wrote in
> news:b63e9621-be03-425a-bf25-b1a60fccf848@googlegroups.com: 
> 
> > OMG!  Three replies to one post.  Obviously I am challenging your
> > world view.  
> > 
> 
> You make the most retarded observations in the world.
> This one is no exception.
> 
>   You are a dung beetle.  A challenge to no one or no thing.

And yet I was able to show that you have no idea what is happening in Iran in regard to the nuclear fuel processing.  You can't come up with a single credible source of information that shows you have any idea what you are talking about.  NONE

You are pretty sad really.  You have my pity as well as other's. 

I guess I should stop bothering you with valid information. 

Rick C. 

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#519119

FromDecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org
Date2018-10-13 02:13 +0000
Message-ID<pprkbc$3lq$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#519108
gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com wrote in
news:06e98cb2-6369-4d32-936c-c6b669a3784c@googlegroups.com: 

> And yet I was able to show that you have no idea what is happening in
> Iran in regard to the nuclear fuel processing. 

They are not making fuel.  They are making fissile media for attempts to 
make nuclear bombs.

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#519128

Fromgnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com
Date2018-10-12 22:29 -0700
Message-ID<b0f8041c-18f9-4d7f-b7d0-5cd426a8228d@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#519119
On Friday, October 12, 2018 at 10:13:06 PM UTC-4, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
> gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com wrote in
> news:06e98cb2-6369-4d32-936c-c6b669a3784c@googlegroups.com: 
> 
> > And yet I was able to show that you have no idea what is happening in
> > Iran in regard to the nuclear fuel processing. 
> 
> They are not making fuel.  They are making fissile media for attempts to 
> make nuclear bombs.

Too bad they can't get above 3.67%.  Not very good for weapons. 

You still can't provide even a shred of evidence to support what you claim.  You just keep repeating the same stuff over and over, looking like an idiot. 

Rick C. 

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#519145

FromDecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org
Date2018-10-13 09:14 +0000
Message-ID<ppsd0u$145q$3@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#519128
gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com wrote in
news:b0f8041c-18f9-4d7f-b7d0-5cd426a8228d@googlegroups.com: 

>  You just keep repeating the same stuff over and over, looking like an
>  idiot. 

mirror!

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#519186

From+++ATH0 <news@ringpiece.local>
Date2018-10-13 14:29 -0700
Message-ID<AqednemOrL8p_l_GnZ2dnUU7-dPNnZ2d@supernews.com>
In reply to#519145
On 2018-10-13 02:14, DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:
> 
> mirror!
> 

Shithead Russian troll fail

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#519400

FromChris <xxx.syseng.yyy@gfsys.co.uk>
Date2018-10-15 16:27 +0100
Message-ID<pq2bkr$id8$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#519186
On 10/13/18 22:29, +++ATH0 wrote:
> On 2018-10-13 02:14, DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:
>>
>> mirror!
>>
>
> Shithead Russian troll fail

Roflamao :-). Insecure, attention seeking trolls everywhere. Best not to
feed them...

Chris

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#518977

Fromgnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com
Date2018-10-11 08:28 -0700
Message-ID<21d72f33-721c-4d3a-84e2-b4e53b974085@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#518955
On Thursday, October 11, 2018 at 8:50:51 AM UTC-4, Gerhard Hoffmann wrote:
> Am 11.10.2018 um 14:16 schrieb DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org:
> > gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com wrote in
> > news:695eb2ca-1ec7-44d8-b7f0-36d14c01bae7@googlegroups.com:
> > 
> >> Why do people have so much trouble understanding that this hack was
> >> done at the factory with the knowledge and cooperation of the factory.
> > 
> > No, it was not.  IF it were then ALL of the motherboards produced would
> > contain the hack part and they do not.  It was specifically targetted and
> > individusally implimented by one or just a couple of folks there.
> > 
> >    Sorry, bub...  but I do not believe than there is an entire factory of
> > spies there.  We see shit like that with Iran and their nuke program...
> > not this.  This was far more subtle.
> > 
> >    I do not see how you cannot see that.
> > 
> 
> Given that experience with their centrifuges, the Iranians seem to be
> more on the victim side of western hacking onslaughts.
> 
> And if the NRA can intercept DSL modem deliveries and replace them
> with hacked ones, why shouldn't the Chinese follow their example?

NRA???  Do you mean NSA?  Where did you hear about this?  It's not very often an NSA exploit becomes public. 

Rick C. 

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#518976

Fromgnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com
Date2018-10-11 08:27 -0700
Message-ID<4d089be4-45a3-421b-9cc0-98fa805f9adb@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#518953
On Thursday, October 11, 2018 at 8:16:11 AM UTC-4, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
> gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com wrote in
> news:695eb2ca-1ec7-44d8-b7f0-36d14c01bae7@googlegroups.com: 
> 
> > Why do people have so much trouble understanding that this hack was
> > done at the factory with the knowledge and cooperation of the factory.
> 
> No, it was not.  IF it were then ALL of the motherboards produced would 
> contain the hack part and they do not.  It was specifically targetted and 
> individusally implimented by one or just a couple of folks there.
> 
>   Sorry, bub...  but I do not believe than there is an entire factory of 
> spies there.  We see shit like that with Iran and their nuke program...  
> not this.  This was far more subtle.
> 
>   I do not see how you cannot see that.

Read the article.  They clearly indicate what I said in my post.  You don't have to believe anything you read or don't read, but that doesn't make your fantasy real.  

Just to be clear, if a high level employee is turned he can modify the original requirements and design documents so that very few if any other personnel need to be involved or even aware of the change. Most workers are just automatons who stamp out work day in and day out following directions from above.  

Since high level managers seldom get involved in lower level work, it is likely that one or two others were involved, some key employee who knows pretty much everything about the details of the operation of the factory.  He makes the required changes to the original design used at the factory and the factory is now making the modified boards with no one else the wiser other than his boss, the one giving orders to the entire factory.  

I saw nothing in the original article that indicated the hacked boards didn't go out to a wide market other than the fact that Elemental's forte was tailored or full custom designs that would only be produced for a given user.  I don't think Supermicro did the custom thing exactly, but that wasn't addressed.  The article was about how the exploit worked, not how it didn't work. 

This reminds me of how a retro-virus works.  Get into the DNA of the host and use the host factory to produce viral proteins. 

Rick C.

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#518847

FromClifford Heath <no.spam@please.net>
Date2018-10-10 10:04 +1100
Message-ID<kuavD.117474$ZJ2.20278@fx33.iad>
In reply to#518564
On 07/10/18 05:50, Phil Hobbs wrote:
> On 10/5/18 6:44 PM, Chris wrote:
>> On 10/05/18 22:19, gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com wrote:
>>> On Friday, October 5, 2018 at 3:59:58 PM UTC-4, Theo wrote:
>>>> In comp.arch.embedded Rob Gaddi<rgaddi@highlandtechnology.invalid> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Thanks for that write-up, but why do you find it more feasible that 
>>>>> the
>>>>> firmware's being fetched across the network than that the interceptor
>>>>> chip simply has 32Mb of flash on it?  It seems like that additional
>>>>> network traffic at boot time would be a pretty recognizable signature.
>>>>
>>>> It is possible that the implant is simply replacing the existing 
>>>> QSPI flash,
>>>> but then a firmware update would either replace it, or the update 
>>>> checksum
>>>> would fail.  So it has to be something that keeps the original flash
>>>> functioning and tampers with it conditionally.
>>>>
>>>> A regular SPI flash chip couldn't that.  A very basic flash edit 
>>>> (overdrive
>>>> the real data lines and force some bytes of config settings) could 
>>>> be done
>>>> in a CPLD - I didn't check what die sizes vendors have, but they can be
>>>> small.  An FPGA would likely be too big.
>>>>
>>>> A full custom chip is also feasible, but in another league in terms of
>>>> costs.
>>>
>>> It's a bit pedantic, but your distinction between CPLD and FPGA is 
>>> not valid, in fact there are very few CPLDs left on the market 
>>> because they are not very competitive with FPGAs even on die size.  
>>> Both types of devices waste a lot of real estate.  CPLDs use large 
>>> arrays to implement the local interconnect with a complete matrix.  
>>> Larger CPLDs become disproportionately large.
>>>
>>> FPGAs use a mix of interconnect to try to find an optimal solution to 
>>> the interconnect problem, but it is a somewhat intractable problem so 
>>> a lot of real estate is still wasted trying to provide speed optimal 
>>> solutions.  All in all even in smaller PLD designs the FPGA 
>>> architecture is usually used.  There are several FPGAs with only 256 
>>> LUT-FFS in the chip and are very small sizes.  They are always size 
>>> limited by the need for I/O pads.
>>>
>>> In this case, a 6 pin package with at most 4 I/Os, an FPGA could be 
>>> built that was very small indeed, but still very functional.
>>>
>>> Still, I expect it is a fully custom chip with an MCU, neither FPGA 
>>> or CPLD.  Did I miss something in the article?
>>>
>>> BTW, if the chip has sufficient internal capacitance, it is possible 
>>> to have five I/Os by scavenging power from the I/Os.
>>>
>>> Rick C.
>>
>> One article I read suggested that such a device would not even need
>> to be visible on the board, but could mounted on one of the internal
>> pcb layers.
> 
> Embedded passives have been around for ages, so that's probably quite 
> feasible.

I learned something! I have a few questions about that.

Is this capability common in PCB production equipment?
Is it likely to be available in mass-production for
server motherboards? When is it necessary anyhow?
What PCB design software supports it?

Inquiring minds...

Clifford Heath.

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#518872

Frompcdhobbs@gmail.com
Date2018-10-10 06:47 -0700
Message-ID<10c69b83-9853-4aaa-9f15-a0032380d0de@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#518847
>>Embedded passives have been around for ages, so that's probably quite 
>> feasible. 

>I learned something! I have a few questions about that. 

>Is this capability common in PCB production equipment? 
>Is it likely to be available in mass-production for 
>server motherboards? When is it necessary anyhow? 
>What PCB design software supports it? 

Unknown. Embedded passives (mostly de-caps) were being explored by about 2000 for improving signal integrity by reducing supply inductance. 

Cheers

Phil Hobbs 

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