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  Good programs to annotate images and graphs Winfield Hill <hill@rowland.harvard.edu> - 2018-10-08 02:20 -0700
    Re: Good programs to annotate images and graphs Gerhard Hoffmann <ghf@hoffmann-hochfrequenz.de> - 2018-10-08 12:17 +0200
    Re: Good programs to annotate images and graphs Mike Coon <gravity@mjcoon.plus.com> - 2018-10-08 11:50 +0100
    Re: Good programs to annotate images and graphs <698839253X6D445TD@nospam.org> - 2018-10-08 11:04 +0000
    Re: Good programs to annotate images and graphs DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org - 2018-10-08 11:19 +0000
    Re: Good programs to annotate images and graphs o pere o <me@somewhere.net> - 2018-10-08 14:15 +0200
    Good programs to annotate images and graphs pcdhobbs@gmail.com - 2018-10-08 05:28 -0700
      Re: Good programs to annotate images and graphs George Herold <gherold@teachspin.com> - 2018-10-08 06:05 -0700
    Re: Good programs to annotate images and graphs Bob Engelhardt <BobEngelhardt@comcast.net> - 2018-10-08 09:09 -0400
      Re: Good programs to annotate images and graphs Winfield Hill <hill@rowland.harvard.edu> - 2018-10-08 07:33 -0700
        Re: Good programs to annotate images and graphs Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> - 2018-10-08 09:25 -0700
        Re: Good programs to annotate images and graphs Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2018-10-08 22:11 +0000
        Re: Good programs to annotate images and graphs o pere o <me@somewhere.net> - 2018-10-09 08:48 +0200
      Re: Good programs to annotate images and graphs John Robertson <spam@flippers.com> - 2018-10-08 16:04 -0700
    Re: Good programs to annotate images and graphs tabbypurr@gmail.com - 2018-10-08 08:20 -0700
    Re: Good programs to annotate images and graphs Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> - 2018-10-08 10:50 -0700
      Re: Good programs to annotate images and graphs Terry Pinnell <me@somewhere.invalid> - 2018-10-09 20:05 +0100
        Re: Good programs to annotate images and graphs Malcolm Moore <abor1953needle@yahoodagger.co.nz> - 2018-10-10 20:10 +1300
    Re: Good programs to annotate images and graphs Martin Riddle <martin_ridd@verizon.net> - 2018-10-08 18:43 -0400
    Re: Good programs to annotate images and graphs krw@notreal.com - 2018-10-08 22:46 -0400
    Re: Good programs to annotate images and graphs Prof78 <scott.hamilton@manchester.ac.uk> - 2018-10-10 02:53 -0700
    Re: Good programs to annotate images and graphs John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> - 2018-10-10 08:34 -0700
      Re: Good programs to annotate images and graphs Marke <mark.e.emerson@gmail.com> - 2018-10-10 09:21 -0700
        Re: Good programs to annotate images and graphs Bob Engelhardt <BobEngelhardt@comcast.net> - 2018-10-10 15:01 -0400
        Re: Good programs to annotate images and graphs George Herold <gherold@teachspin.com> - 2018-10-10 15:42 -0700
          Re: Good programs to annotate images and graphs Chris <c@b.a> - 2018-10-11 11:47 +1100
            Re: Good programs to annotate images and graphs George Herold <gherold@teachspin.com> - 2018-10-11 06:21 -0700
              Re: Good programs to annotate images and graphs Chris <c@b.a> - 2018-10-15 11:34 +1100
    Re: Good programs to annotate images and graphs Badbob <badbob45@wi.rr.com> - 2018-10-10 12:05 -0500

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#518696 — Good programs to annotate images and graphs

What are some good programs to annotate images and graphs?  I know Photoshop is
great for editing images, and Illustrator is great for page layout, precision
location of everything, etc., but these programs are huge, expensive, and have
an unwieldy learning curve.  I've seen nicely-annotated technical photos and
graphs, with text and lines to the point being described, including grown-up
features like black-on-white or white-on-black outlining to make things well
visible, etc., but I don't know how they were created.


-- 
 Thanks,
    - Win

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#518697

Am 08.10.2018 um 11:20 schrieb Winfield Hill:
> What are some good programs to annotate images and graphs?  I know Photoshop is
> great for editing images, and Illustrator is great for page layout, precision
> location of everything, etc., but these programs are huge, expensive, and have
> an unwieldy learning curve.  I've seen nicely-annotated technical photos and
> graphs, with text and lines to the point being described, including grown-up
> features like black-on-white or white-on-black outlining to make things well
> visible, etc., but I don't know how they were created.
> 
> 

Maybe GIMP? (Gnu image manipulation program)

It is quite mighty; some like / some hate the user interface.
I can live with it.

regards, Gerhard

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#518700

In article <ppf7hq0um@drn.newsguy.com>, hill@rowland.harvard.edu says...
> 
> What are some good programs to annotate images and graphs?  I know Photoshop is
> great for editing images, and Illustrator is great for page layout, precision
> location of everything, etc., but these programs are huge, expensive, and have
> an unwieldy learning curve.  I've seen nicely-annotated technical photos and
> graphs, with text and lines to the point being described, including grown-up
> features like black-on-white or white-on-black outlining to make things well
> visible, etc., but I don't know how they were created.

Do you want an object (vector) editor which overlays its objects onto a 
background image? That way the objects are always subject to alteration. 
Else you could just use Paint... (Assuming you are on Windows X; you 
don't say!)

Mike.

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#518704

Winfield Hill wrote
>What are some good programs to annotate images and graphs?  I know Photoshop is
>great for editing images, and Illustrator is great for page layout, precision
>location of everything, etc., but these programs are huge, expensive, and have
>an unwieldy learning curve.  I've seen nicely-annotated technical photos and
>graphs, with text and lines to the point being described, including grown-up
>features like black-on-white or white-on-black outlining to make things well
>visible, etc., but I don't know how they were created.

In Linux, for just adding text (and it can do a lot more)
use the imagemagick programs
 http://www.imagemagick.org/Usage/annotating/

A command line tool, takes a second.
If you have Linux installed chances are good it is already on your system,
type
 convert

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#518707

Winfield Hill <hill@rowland.harvard.edu> wrote in
news:ppf7hq0um@drn.newsguy.com: 

> What are some good programs to annotate images and graphs?  I know
> Photoshop is great for editing images, and Illustrator is great for
> page layout, precision location of everything, etc., but these
> programs are huge, expensive, and have an unwieldy learning curve. 
> I've seen nicely-annotated technical photos and graphs, with text and
> lines to the point being described, including grown-up features like
> black-on-white or white-on-black outlining to make things well 
> visible, etc., but I don't know how they were created. 
> 
> 

Gimp is free...

https://www.gimp.org/

  Or you could place Ubuntu Studio onto a flash drive and boot that 
whenever you want to do an image editing session.

  Ubuntu Studio has 3D and vector image edit capacity and also audio and 
music and video and CAD...  Anything related to bathing our senses in 
imagery, text, facts, etc.

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#518708

On 08/10/18 11:20, Winfield Hill wrote:
> What are some good programs to annotate images and graphs?  I know Photoshop is
> great for editing images, and Illustrator is great for page layout, precision
> location of everything, etc., but these programs are huge, expensive, and have
> an unwieldy learning curve.  I've seen nicely-annotated technical photos and
> graphs, with text and lines to the point being described, including grown-up
> features like black-on-white or white-on-black outlining to make things well
> visible, etc., but I don't know how they were created.
> 
> 

I use Gimp and Inkscape for all my manual image editing tasks. Inkscape 
is for vector graphics (svg) but you can import a bitmap picture and 
draw vector fonts and lines on top of it. You can draw outline color and 
width as you like.

Pere

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#518709

Paint. 

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

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#518710

On Monday, October 8, 2018 at 8:28:39 AM UTC-4, pcdh...@gmail.com wrote:
> Paint. 
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Phil Hobbs

Right, I use paint for things like that.  
load pic, add arrows and text, save, send.  

George H. 

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#518711

Nobody has described how annotation is done in any of these suggestions 
- a crucial detail.  I don't think Win wants to learn how to do it, just 
to find that it isn't what he wants.

An ideal annotator would:
- be object based so the annotation could be amended at any time (of 
course this is really a matter of the underlying file),
- be a 1-step process;
   - with the mouse, locate the tip of the pointer-line,
   - drag the line to the desired text location,
   - type in the text
- parametized line type (arrow or not, weight, color), text background 
box or not, text font, color, etc

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#518717

Bob Engelhardt wrote...
>
>Nobody has described how annotation is done in any of these suggestions 
>- a crucial detail.  I don't think Win wants to learn how to do it, just 
>to find that it isn't what he wants.
>
>An ideal annotator would:
>- be object based so the annotation could be amended at any time (of 
>course this is really a matter of the underlying file),
>- be a 1-step process;
>   - with the mouse, locate the tip of the pointer-line,
>   - drag the line to the desired text location,
>   - type in the text
>- parametized line type (arrow or not, weight, color), text background 
>box or not, text font, color, etc

 Yes!


-- 
 Thanks,
    - Win

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#518731

On 2018-10-08 07:33, Winfield Hill wrote:
> Bob Engelhardt wrote...
>>
>> Nobody has described how annotation is done in any of these suggestions
>> - a crucial detail.  I don't think Win wants to learn how to do it, just
>> to find that it isn't what he wants.
>>
>> An ideal annotator would:
>> - be object based so the annotation could be amended at any time (of
>> course this is really a matter of the underlying file),
>> - be a 1-step process;
>>    - with the mouse, locate the tip of the pointer-line,
>>    - drag the line to the desired text location,
>>    - type in the text
>> - parametized line type (arrow or not, weight, color), text background
>> box or not, text font, color, etc
>
>   Yes!
>

Not ideal, but what I sometimes do is this sort of workflow:

1. Decide what the size of the graph is planned to be. Import that to 
MS-Paint.

2. Type the annotation in OpenOffice with a nice font you like. 
MS-Office and others work as well.

3. Stretch the horizontal axis by inserting spaces.

4. Stretch the vertical axis by customizing the line spacing.

Print the OpenOffice document to PDF and open. Copy the vertical and 
horizontal axis over using the snapshot function of the PDF reader. Must 
be done separately in two steps because else it wipes out the graph.

Annotations can also be created nicely with CAD software. A schematic 
file doesn't have to contain electronic components. I use Eagle and even 
do mechanical drawings with it. However, it's graphics import functions 
are very lacking or at least were up to version 7. Other CAD might be 
better here. IIRC someone did a wedding cake design using Eagle.

-- 
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/

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#518759

On 2018-10-08, Winfield Hill <hill@rowland.harvard.edu> wrote:
> Bob Engelhardt wrote...
>>
>>Nobody has described how annotation is done in any of these suggestions 
>>- a crucial detail.  I don't think Win wants to learn how to do it, just 
>>to find that it isn't what he wants.
>>
>>An ideal annotator would:
>>- be object based so the annotation could be amended at any time (of 
>>course this is really a matter of the underlying file),
>>- be a 1-step process;
>>   - with the mouse, locate the tip of the pointer-line,
>>   - drag the line to the desired text location,
>>   - type in the text
>>- parametized line type (arrow or not, weight, color), text background 
>>box or not, text font, color, etc
>
>  Yes!

"Dia" has that, (I think you need to launch from the command-line to
annotate pixel images), it doesn't do contrasting outlines though.

-- 
  Notsodium is mined on the banks of denial.

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#518798

On 08/10/18 16:33, Winfield Hill wrote:
> Bob Engelhardt wrote...
>>
>> Nobody has described how annotation is done in any of these suggestions
>> - a crucial detail.  I don't think Win wants to learn how to do it, just
>> to find that it isn't what he wants.
>>
>> An ideal annotator would:
>> - be object based so the annotation could be amended at any time (of
>> course this is really a matter of the underlying file),
>> - be a 1-step process;
>>    - with the mouse, locate the tip of the pointer-line,
>>    - drag the line to the desired text location,
>>    - type in the text
>> - parametized line type (arrow or not, weight, color), text background
>> box or not, text font, color, etc
> 
>   Yes!
> 
> 

Is this ok? 
https://www.dropbox.com/s/tna2v3dojqebi7v/Screenshot%20from%202018-10-09%2008-40-25.png?dl=0

Inkscape is a great tool. I do all my documentation with Inkscape + 
Latex. I just know the few details I need to have my work done. But you 
can parameterize / automate a lot of things. Like Latex, it is one tool 
worth learning.

Pere

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#518761

On 2018/10/08 6:09 AM, Bob Engelhardt wrote:
> Nobody has described how annotation is done in any of these suggestions 
> - a crucial detail.  I don't think Win wants to learn how to do it, just 
> to find that it isn't what he wants.
> 
> An ideal annotator would:
> - be object based so the annotation could be amended at any time (of 
> course this is really a matter of the underlying file),
> - be a 1-step process;
>    - with the mouse, locate the tip of the pointer-line,
>    - drag the line to the desired text location,
>    - type in the text
> - parametized line type (arrow or not, weight, color), text background 
> box or not, text font, color, etc
> 
> 

I pretty much get all that as part of Preview on OSX - the default file 
viewer that comes with the system. I can draw lines, add text, put any 
symbol I can type in the text box, etc. Change text colours, make 
background a different colour or transparent, pretty much a simple 
editor that works on images. I also use it to insert/subtract pages from 
PDFs, shuffle the pages around and more...

https://support.apple.com/en-ca/HT201740

Doesn't help you if you are not in MacLand though. Pity! (ducking)

John ;-#)#

Not to say that OSX is perfect, it isn't of course!

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#518723

On Monday, 8 October 2018 10:21:08 UTC+1, Winfield Hill  wrote:
> What are some good programs to annotate images and graphs?  I know Photoshop is
> great for editing images, and Illustrator is great for page layout, precision
> location of everything, etc., but these programs are huge, expensive, and have
> an unwieldy learning curve.  I've seen nicely-annotated technical photos and
> graphs, with text and lines to the point being described, including grown-up
> features like black-on-white or white-on-black outlining to make things well
> visible, etc., but I don't know how they were created.

Gimp is free & does almost everything. The UI is not the friendliest, but once you know how to do something it's fine.


NT

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#518739

On 8 Oct 2018 02:20:58 -0700, Winfield Hill <hill@rowland.harvard.edu>
wrote:

>What are some good programs to annotate images and graphs?

I use Irfanview (free) on Windoze:
<https://www.irfanview.com>
Be sure to install both the program and the corresponding plugins.
Punch F12 for the text and arrows menu.

Examples of the paint plugin:
<https://www.irfanview.com/screenshot/big/03_paint_plugin.jpg>
<http://www.learnbydestroying.com/jeffl/pics/repair/slides/Behringer-PMH518M-PS.html>
<http://www.learnbydestroying.com/jeffl/pics/repair/slides/LG%20L246WP.html>
<http://www.learnbydestroying.com/jeffl/pics/Fluke%208060a/slides/Fluke-screws.html>

-- 
Jeff Liebermann     jeffl@cruzio.com
150 Felker St #D    http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann     AE6KS    831-336-2558

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#518840

Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> wrote:

>On 8 Oct 2018 02:20:58 -0700, Winfield Hill <hill@rowland.harvard.edu>
>wrote:
>
>>What are some good programs to annotate images and graphs?
>
>I use Irfanview (free) on Windoze:
><https://www.irfanview.com>
>Be sure to install both the program and the corresponding plugins.
>Punch F12 for the text and arrows menu.
>
>Examples of the paint plugin:
><https://www.irfanview.com/screenshot/big/03_paint_plugin.jpg>
><http://www.learnbydestroying.com/jeffl/pics/repair/slides/Behringer-PMH518M-PS.html>
><http://www.learnbydestroying.com/jeffl/pics/repair/slides/LG%20L246WP.html>
><http://www.learnbydestroying.com/jeffl/pics/Fluke%208060a/slides/Fluke-screws.html>

Me too, used it for decades and wouldn't be without it.

I use PaintShop Pro for more advanced graphic editing, but switch back
to IrfanView for fast text annotations. And many other basic tasks like
cropping, horizon-straightening, framing, etc. It's also my Windows
associated program for opening JPGs, BMPs, GIFs, etc from a
double-click.

Terry, East Grinstead, UK

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#518861

On Tue, 09 Oct 2018 20:05:23 +0100, Terry Pinnell
<me@somewhere.invalid> wrote:

>Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> wrote:
>
>>On 8 Oct 2018 02:20:58 -0700, Winfield Hill <hill@rowland.harvard.edu>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>What are some good programs to annotate images and graphs?
>>
>>I use Irfanview (free) on Windoze:
>><https://www.irfanview.com>
>>Be sure to install both the program and the corresponding plugins.
>>Punch F12 for the text and arrows menu.
>>
>>Examples of the paint plugin:
>><https://www.irfanview.com/screenshot/big/03_paint_plugin.jpg>
>><http://www.learnbydestroying.com/jeffl/pics/repair/slides/Behringer-PMH518M-PS.html>
>><http://www.learnbydestroying.com/jeffl/pics/repair/slides/LG%20L246WP.html>
>><http://www.learnbydestroying.com/jeffl/pics/Fluke%208060a/slides/Fluke-screws.html>
>
>Me too, used it for decades and wouldn't be without it.
>
>I use PaintShop Pro for more advanced graphic editing, but switch back
>to IrfanView for fast text annotations. And many other basic tasks like
>cropping, horizon-straightening, framing, etc. It's also my Windows
>associated program for opening JPGs, BMPs, GIFs, etc from a
>double-click.
>
>Terry, East Grinstead, UK

Another Irfanview recommendation here. 
It also works well on Linux under wine.

-- 
remove sharp objects to get a valid email address

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#518760

On 8 Oct 2018 02:20:58 -0700, Winfield Hill <hill@rowland.harvard.edu>
wrote:

>What are some good programs to annotate images and graphs?  I know Photoshop is
>great for editing images, and Illustrator is great for page layout, precision
>location of everything, etc., but these programs are huge, expensive, and have
>an unwieldy learning curve.  I've seen nicely-annotated technical photos and
>graphs, with text and lines to the point being described, including grown-up
>features like black-on-white or white-on-black outlining to make things well
>visible, etc., but I don't know how they were created.

Inkscape ?

Cheers

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#518776

On 8 Oct 2018 02:20:58 -0700, Winfield Hill <hill@rowland.harvard.edu>
wrote:

>What are some good programs to annotate images and graphs?  I know Photoshop is
>great for editing images, and Illustrator is great for page layout, precision
>location of everything, etc., but these programs are huge, expensive, and have
>an unwieldy learning curve.  I've seen nicely-annotated technical photos and
>graphs, with text and lines to the point being described, including grown-up
>features like black-on-white or white-on-black outlining to make things well
>visible, etc., but I don't know how they were created.

I use PDF-X-Change as a viewer and markup tool.  If it's not already a
.PDF, just print it to one.

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