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First post2018-10-06 20:19 +0100
Last post2018-10-09 11:00 +0100
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  Newsgroup reader TTman <kraken.sankey@gmail.com> - 2018-10-06 20:19 +0100
    Re: Newsgroup reader <698839253X6D445TD@nospam.org> - 2018-10-06 19:49 +0000
      Re: Newsgroup reader TTman <kraken.sankey@gmail.com> - 2018-10-06 21:38 +0100
        Re: Newsgroup reader TTman <kraken.sankey@gmail.com> - 2018-10-06 21:54 +0100
          Re: Newsgroup reader <698839253X6D445TD@nospam.org> - 2018-10-07 07:15 +0000
            Re: Newsgroup reader Cursitor Doom <curd@notformail.com> - 2018-10-07 09:22 +0000
              Re: Newsgroup reader <698839253X6D445TD@nospam.org> - 2018-10-07 11:07 +0000
                Re: Newsgroup reader gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com - 2018-10-07 08:01 -0700
                  Re: Newsgroup reader <698839253X6D445TD@nospam.org> - 2018-10-07 18:58 +0000
                Re: Newsgroup reader Cursitor Doom <curd@notformail.com> - 2018-10-07 15:22 +0000
                  Re: Newsgroup reader <698839253X6D445TD@nospam.org> - 2018-10-07 18:58 +0000
                    Re: Newsgroup reader Jon Elson <elson@pico-systems.com> - 2018-10-08 13:47 -0500
                      Re: Newsgroup reader Cursitor Doom <curd@notformail.com> - 2018-10-09 18:59 +0000
                        Re: Newsgroup reader Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> - 2018-10-10 09:49 -0700
                          Re: Newsgroup reader Neon John <no@never.com> - 2018-10-15 19:05 -0400
                Re: Newsgroup reader TTman <kraken.sankey@gmail.com> - 2018-10-07 19:55 +0100
              Re: Newsgroup reader gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com - 2018-10-07 07:59 -0700
                Re: Newsgroup reader Jon Elson <elson@pico-systems.com> - 2018-10-08 13:52 -0500
    Re: Newsgroup reader Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> - 2018-10-06 17:03 -0700
    Re: Newsgroup reader gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com - 2018-10-06 19:04 -0700
    Re: Newsgroup reader Jon Elson <elson@pico-systems.com> - 2018-10-08 13:42 -0500
    Re: Newsgroup reader Martin Brown <'''newspam'''@nezumi.demon.co.uk> - 2018-10-09 11:00 +0100

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#518571 — Newsgroup reader

FromTTman <kraken.sankey@gmail.com>
Date2018-10-06 20:19 +0100
SubjectNewsgroup reader
Message-ID<ppb1sj$n68$1@dont-email.me>
Can anyone suggest a sensible newsgroup reader and free feed ? I 
currently use eternal september and thunderbird but I'm having trouble 
migrating to a new machine. It's asking for logins/ pwds which have long 
since been forgotten.
Ta

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#518579

From<698839253X6D445TD@nospam.org>
Date2018-10-06 19:49 +0000
Message-ID<ppb3jl$19bf$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#518571
TTman wrote:
>Can anyone suggest a sensible newsgroup reader and free feed ? I 
>currently use eternal september and thunderbird but I'm having trouble 
>migrating to a new machine. It's asking for logins/ pwds which have long 
>since been forgotten.
>Ta

Been using this since 1998 or so when I wrote it:
 http://panteltje.com/panteltje/newsflex/index.html

Bit like free agent, but then for Linux, with my own view added.
Never understood why people even want to use something else.

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#518583

FromTTman <kraken.sankey@gmail.com>
Date2018-10-06 21:38 +0100
Message-ID<ppb6g4$itk$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#518579
On 06/10/2018 20:49, 698839253X6D445TD@nospam.org wrote:
> TTman wrote:
>> Can anyone suggest a sensible newsgroup reader and free feed ? I
>> currently use eternal september and thunderbird but I'm having trouble
>> migrating to a new machine. It's asking for logins/ pwds which have long
>> since been forgotten.
>> Ta
> 
> Been using this since 1998 or so when I wrote it:
>   http://panteltje.com/panteltje/newsflex/index.html
> 
> Bit like free agent, but then for Linux, with my own view added.
> Never understood why people even want to use something else.
> 
Sorry, I need windows platform...


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#518585

FromTTman <kraken.sankey@gmail.com>
Date2018-10-06 21:54 +0100
Message-ID<ppb7e2$o03$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#518583
On 06-Oct-18 9:38 PM, TTman wrote:
> On 06/10/2018 20:49, 698839253X6D445TD@nospam.org wrote:
>> TTman wrote:
>>> Can anyone suggest a sensible newsgroup reader and free feed ? I
>>> currently use eternal september and thunderbird but I'm having trouble
>>> migrating to a new machine. It's asking for logins/ pwds which have long
>>> since been forgotten.
>>> Ta
>>
>> Been using this since 1998 or so when I wrote it:
>>   http://panteltje.com/panteltje/newsflex/index.html
>>
>> Bit like free agent, but then for Linux, with my own view added.
>> Never understood why people even want to use something else.
>>
> Sorry, I need windows platform...
> 
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Sorted. At last.

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#518620

From<698839253X6D445TD@nospam.org>
Date2018-10-07 07:15 +0000
Message-ID<ppcbri$vpk$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#518585
TTman wrote
>> On 06/10/2018 20:49, 698839253X6D445TD@nospam.org wrote:
>>> TTman wrote:
>>>> Can anyone suggest a sensible newsgroup reader and free feed ? I
>>>> currently use eternal september and thunderbird but I'm having trouble
>>>> migrating to a new machine. It's asking for logins/ pwds which have long
>>>> since been forgotten.
>>>> Ta
>>>
>>> Been using this since 1998 or so when I wrote it:
>>>   http://panteltje.com/panteltje/newsflex/index.html
>>>
>>> Bit like free agent, but then for Linux, with my own view added.
>>> Never understood why people even want to use something else.
>>>
>> Sorry, I need windows platform...
>> 
>> 
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>> 
>Sorted. At last.
>


Windows, I forgt to give you my condolances...


2 days ago I copied the database of my NewsFleX Usenet reader to my laptop,
so I can have it all on the move,
took about 10 minutes, all interesting postings (the ones I saved) back to 2006.
It has super fast search in that database too.

panteltje12: ~/.NewsFleX # l
total 1707
-rw-r--r--   1 root root   21971 Jan  9  2006 NewsFleX.xpm
-rw-r--r--   1 root root    2576 Jul 30  2006 newsservers.dat.bak
-rw-r--r--   1 root root       6 Jun 24  2007 pids
drwxr-xr-x   5 root root     184 Apr  1  2008 news.chello.nl/
drwxr-xr-x   5 root root     184 Apr  1  2008 news.isu.edu.tw/
drwxr-xr-x   5 root root     184 Apr  1  2008 textnews.news.cambrium.nl/
-rw-r--r--   1 root root       1 Mar  5  2009 global_custom_head
drwx------   4 root root     112 Dec  6  2009 http/
-rw-r--r--   1 root root    8531 Apr  4  2010 signature
drwxr-xr-x   8 root root     256 Jul  1  2012 localhost/
drwxr-xr-x   3 root root     104 Jul  5  2012 nntp.ioe.org/
drwxr-xr-x   2 root root    1184 Oct  1  2013 setup/
drwxr-xr-x   2 root root     112 Mar 30  2015 news.altopia.com/
drwxr-xr-x   7 root root     232 Aug  1  2017 194.177.96.78/
drwxr-xr-x   3 root root     104 Sep 23  2017 news.cambrium.nl/
drwxr-xr-x   4 root root     160 May 15 11:56 news.tornevall.net/
-rw-r--r--   1 root root    1441 Aug  9 12:14 urls.dat
drwxr-xr-x  10 root root     272 Sep  2 08:12 news.aioe.cjb.net/
drwxr-xr-x 103 root root    2544 Sep  2 08:12 news.albasani.net/
drwxr-xr-x   8 root root     256 Sep  2 08:13 news.ziggo.nl/
-rw-r--r--   1 root root     754 Sep 22 21:33 error_log.txt
drwxr-xr-x  19 root root     520 Oct  1 08:58 freenews.netfront.net/
drwxr-xr-x  10 root root     272 Oct  1 08:58 freetext.usenetserver.com/
drwxr-xr-x 149 root root    3640 Oct  1 08:58 news.datemas.de/
drwxr-xr-x   6 root root     208 Oct  1 08:58 news.eternal-september.org/
drwxr-xr-x  14 root root     368 Oct  1 08:59 news.netfront.net/
drwxr-xr-x 143 root root    3496 Oct  1 08:59 nntp.aioe.org/
drwxr-xr-x 147 root root    3528 Oct  1 08:59 postings/
-rw-r--r--   1 root root       0 Oct  1 08:59 lockfile
-rw-r--r--   1 root root     125 Oct  1 08:59 kernel_version
-rw-r--r--   1 root root 1351868 Oct  1 08:59 fontlist.txt
-rw-r--r--   1 root root    1782 Oct  1 08:59 posting_periods.dat
-rw-r--r--   1 root root     914 Oct  1 18:31 filters.dat
-rw-r--r--   1 root root  121867 Oct  6 21:49 newsservers.dat

panteltje12: ~ # du .NewsFleX
871153  .NewsFleX
871.153,000 bytes
Almost a Giggle-Byte of text.

My Usenet database is sometimes better than google's memory.
Anyways you can see some servers from this, some are dead, for some you need to register.
Changing servers on the fly all the time, just some mouse clicks.
 http://panteltje.com/panteltje/newsflex/index.html

Now I wonder who has that.

Sorry again about MS.

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#518623

FromCursitor Doom <curd@notformail.com>
Date2018-10-07 09:22 +0000
Message-ID<ppcj88$5e8$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#518620
On Sun, 07 Oct 2018 07:15:50 +0000, 698839253X6D445TD wrote:

> Sorry again about MS.

Hard to believe so many people are still using Windows.
I didn't see your newsreader referenced in your headers, Jan. A curious 
omission to make when you authored it yourself?




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#518626

From<698839253X6D445TD@nospam.org>
Date2018-10-07 11:07 +0000
Message-ID<ppcpdt$1l2a$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#518623
Cursitor Doom 
>On Sun, 07 Oct 2018 07:15:50 +0000, 698839253X6D445TD wrote:
>
>> Sorry again about MS.
>
>Hard to believe so many people are still using Windows.
>I didn't see your newsreader referenced in your headers, Jan. A curious 
>omission to make when you authored it yourself?


hehe

panteltje12: ~ # NewsFleX -h
Usage: NewsFleX [-d] [-h] [-shared]
        -d  send debug output to console.
        -i  do not send NewsFleX ID in headers. <----
        -h  help (this help).
        -s  shared (for < 24 bit color map sharing).

Was running in anonymous mode.
Then you do not see me, now you do.

What do I care? If somebody want to use some heavy weight browser for Usenet
fine with me.

I do not have to sell the thing, and as far as that ego thing 'I diddit' goes,
well, I did a lot of things, if the conversation goes into th direction
of any of those, then I may reply, or not.
Just wanted to help teh poor MS creature.
But maybe installing Linux and  NewsFleX.. not simple apt-get AFAIK, is too
complicatatiatiated for some

Just had some fun soldering a little chip on a bit less little adaptor:
 http://panteltje.com/pub/LMX2332_on_DIL_adaptor_IMG_6607.JPG
So proud of that!!

;-)
Tomorrow the test cables maybe, see if this ebay chip works.
 

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#518633

Fromgnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com
Date2018-10-07 08:01 -0700
Message-ID<35aa5f77-d787-4521-9715-ce03ca40a2e0@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#518626
On Sunday, October 7, 2018 at 7:07:48 AM UTC-4, 69883925...@nospam.org wrote:
> Cursitor Doom 
> >On Sun, 07 Oct 2018 07:15:50 +0000, 698839253X6D445TD wrote:
> >
> >> Sorry again about MS.
> >
> >Hard to believe so many people are still using Windows.
> >I didn't see your newsreader referenced in your headers, Jan. A curious 
> >omission to make when you authored it yourself?
> 
> 
> hehe
> 
> panteltje12: ~ # NewsFleX -h
> Usage: NewsFleX [-d] [-h] [-shared]
>         -d  send debug output to console.
>         -i  do not send NewsFleX ID in headers. <----
>         -h  help (this help).
>         -s  shared (for < 24 bit color map sharing).
> 
> Was running in anonymous mode.
> Then you do not see me, now you do.
> 
> What do I care? If somebody want to use some heavy weight browser for Usenet
> fine with me.
> 
> I do not have to sell the thing, and as far as that ego thing 'I diddit' goes,
> well, I did a lot of things, if the conversation goes into th direction
> of any of those, then I may reply, or not.
> Just wanted to help teh poor MS creature.
> But maybe installing Linux and  NewsFleX.. not simple apt-get AFAIK, is too
> complicatatiatiated for some
> 
> Just had some fun soldering a little chip on a bit less little adaptor:
>  http://panteltje.com/pub/LMX2332_on_DIL_adaptor_IMG_6607.JPG
> So proud of that!!
> 
> ;-)
> Tomorrow the test cables maybe, see if this ebay chip works.

Is this an RS-232 adapter chip of some sort?  What does it do that existing modules can't do? 

Rick C. 

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#518652

From<698839253X6D445TD@nospam.org>
Date2018-10-07 18:58 +0000
Message-ID<ppdl0e$1gl8$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#518633
gnuarm wrote
>On Sunday, October 7, 2018 at 7:07:48 AM UTC-4, 69883925...@nospam.org wrote:
>> Cursitor Doom 
>> >On Sun, 07 Oct 2018 07:15:50 +0000, 698839253X6D445TD wrote:
>> >
>> >> Sorry again about MS.
>> >
>> >Hard to believe so many people are still using Windows.
>> >I didn't see your newsreader referenced in your headers, Jan. A curious 
>> >omission to make when you authored it yourself?
>> 
>> 
>> hehe
>> 
>> panteltje12: ~ # NewsFleX -h
>> Usage: NewsFleX [-d] [-h] [-shared]
>>         -d  send debug output to console.
>>         -i  do not send NewsFleX ID in headers. <----
>>         -h  help (this help).
>>         -s  shared (for < 24 bit color map sharing).
>> 
>> Was running in anonymous mode.
>> Then you do not see me, now you do.
>> 
>> What do I care? If somebody want to use some heavy weight browser for Usenet
>> fine with me.
>> 
>> I do not have to sell the thing, and as far as that ego thing 'I diddit' goes,
>> well, I did a lot of things, if the conversation goes into th direction
>> of any of those, then I may reply, or not.
>> Just wanted to help teh poor MS creature.
>> But maybe installing Linux and  NewsFleX.. not simple apt-get AFAIK, is too
>> complicatatiatiated for some
>> 
>> Just had some fun soldering a little chip on a bit less little adaptor:
>>  http://panteltje.com/pub/LMX2332_on_DIL_adaptor_IMG_6607.JPG
>> So proud of that!!
>> 
>> ;-)
>> Tomorrow the test cables maybe, see if this ebay chip works.
>
>Is this an RS-232 adapter chip of some sort?  What does it do that existing modules can't do? 
>
>Rick C. 

Na, it is a LMX2332, so not a MAX232 serial thingy.
It will divide my Rubidium 10 MHz reference by 10 to get 1 MHz,
and also divide a voltage controlled crystal oscillator at 24 MHz (or 25) to 1 MHz
and then compare the two 1 MHz signals
and use that to lock that crystal oscillator, making a Rubidium controlled 24 MHz (or 25).
That in turn will be the reference frequency for my LNB,
the 25 MHz (or 24) is then multiplied by 
For a 24 MHz xtal:
LO1 = 24 * 390 =  9360 MHz
LO2 = 24 * 426 = 10224 MHz
to form the local oscillator for the LNB down converter to receive the Eshail2 ham satellite
Eshail2:                        10498.675 MHz horizontal

Downlink:  
Narrow band     10489.55    to  10489.8 MHz
center          10489.675   MHz
Wide band       10491       to  10499   MHz
center          10495       MHz

resulting in a IF frequency of:

IF
LOW side        10489.55 - 9360 = 1129.55 MHz  1,129,550,000        in IF band      RTL-SDR lock
High side       10499    - 9360 = 1139   MHz   1,139,000,000        in IF band

start narrow band   10489.55   - 9360   = 1,129,550,000     Hz
center narrow band  10489.675  - 9360   = 1,129,675,000     Hz
end narrow band     10489.8    - 9360   = 1,129,800,000     Hz

start wideband      10491      - 9360   = 1,131,000,000     Hz
center wideband     10495      - 9360   = 1,135,000,000     Hz
end wide band       10499      - 9360   = 1,139,000,000     Hz

that then will be fed for narrow band into an RTL-SDR stick,
and for wideband into my PC satellite DTV card.

Or something like that.
Sat is not up there yet (I think, but spaceX already has it) so not in a hurry.

When PLL to 25 MHz I can just use it to view regular sat TV, in the picture above the original
25 MHz is glued to the side of the LNB to test if the modification did not kill it.
Very tricky to solder on that board, tracks just come off.
So there will be an external 24 MHz or 25 MHz reference input to that LNB, 2 cables to it.

At least that is the planning.
 

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#518637

FromCursitor Doom <curd@notformail.com>
Date2018-10-07 15:22 +0000
Message-ID<ppd8aq$mrp$5@dont-email.me>
In reply to#518626
On Sun, 07 Oct 2018 11:07:28 +0000, 698839253X6D445TD wrote:

> panteltje12: ~ # NewsFleX -h Usage: NewsFleX [-d] [-h] [-shared]
>         -d  send debug output to console.
>         -i  do not send NewsFleX ID in headers. <----
>         -h  help (this help).
>         -s  shared (for < 24 bit color map sharing).
> 
> Was running in anonymous mode.
> Then you do not see me, now you do.

Fair enough. I wasn't suggesting it was an ego trip, though!


> Just had some fun soldering a little chip on a bit less little adaptor:
>  http://panteltje.com/pub/LMX2332_on_DIL_adaptor_IMG_6607.JPG
> So proud of that!!

I'm going to be publishing some pictures of this repair I did on a Tek 
scope that just goes beyond awful. A lot of posters will stop speaking to 
me as a result of seeing my soldering skills (which have not improved one 
iota over the last 50 years) but it's a chance I'm prepared to take.



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#518653

From<698839253X6D445TD@nospam.org>
Date2018-10-07 18:58 +0000
Message-ID<ppdl0l$1gl9$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#518637
Cursitor Doom wrote
>I'm going to be publishing some pictures of this repair I did on a Tek 
>scope that just goes beyond awful. A lot of posters will stop speaking to 
>me as a result of seeing my soldering skills (which have not improved one 
>iota over the last 50 years) but it's a chance I'm prepared to take.

Cool, as long as it works it is OK.

I use some very strong glasses from the drugstore to solder those tiny things.
With a 'third hand with magnifying glass' you get no depth perception.

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#518748

FromJon Elson <elson@pico-systems.com>
Date2018-10-08 13:47 -0500
Message-ID<ZcudnfY1tqmpOybGnZ2dnUU7-RWdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#518653
On Sun, 07 Oct 2018 18:58:15 +0000, 698839253X6D445TD wrote:

> Cursitor Doom wrote
>>I'm going to be publishing some pictures of this repair I did on a Tek
>>scope that just goes beyond awful. A lot of posters will stop speaking
>>to me as a result of seeing my soldering skills (which have not improved
>>one iota over the last 50 years) but it's a chance I'm prepared to take.
> 
> Cool, as long as it works it is OK.
> 
> I use some very strong glasses from the drugstore to solder those tiny
> things.
> With a 'third hand with magnifying glass' you get no depth perception.

Until you have used a stereo-zoom microscope with enough working distance 
to get your hands tweezers and a soldering iron under it, you just don't 
know what you are missing.  I use an old Olympus at home, and have a 
newer Chinese one at work, just couldn't do ANYTHING small without them.
I regularly work on 0.5mm pitch FPGAs, and have done 0.4mm pitch chips.

A ring light that doesn't cut into the working distance is also very 
important.  I made my own with a piece of PC board and some LEDs.

Jon

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#518839

FromCursitor Doom <curd@notformail.com>
Date2018-10-09 18:59 +0000
Message-ID<ppitq0$s2p$4@dont-email.me>
In reply to#518748
On Mon, 08 Oct 2018 13:47:16 -0500, Jon Elson wrote:

> Until you have used a stereo-zoom microscope with enough working
> distance to get your hands tweezers and a soldering iron under it, you
> just don't know what you are missing.  

Absolutely. And it doesn't necessarily need a zoom facility. Some types 
have interchangeable lenses and a high quality stereoscope with decent 
illumination is a huge improvement over anything else I've tried.

> A ring light that doesn't cut into the working distance is also very
> important.  I made my own with a piece of PC board and some LEDs.

I've been using a point source of light which I thought was pretty good 
until I saw a ring light version - *vastly* superior.



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#518884

FromJeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
Date2018-10-10 09:49 -0700
Message-ID<ca9srdd5cb4d84q5gv1q0ur3eit6d4u6c1@4ax.com>
In reply to#518839
On Tue, 9 Oct 2018 18:59:13 -0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom
<curd@notformail.com> wrote:

>On Mon, 08 Oct 2018 13:47:16 -0500, Jon Elson wrote:
>
>> Until you have used a stereo-zoom microscope with enough working
>> distance to get your hands tweezers and a soldering iron under it, you
>> just don't know what you are missing.  

>Absolutely. And it doesn't necessarily need a zoom facility. Some types 
>have interchangeable lenses and a high quality stereoscope with decent 
>illumination is a huge improvement over anything else I've tried.

Zoom is quite necessary because you never know how big a field of view
you're going to need.  Looking closely at a small SMD device benefits
form high magnification, while searching around a PCB looking for
water damage, bad soldering, or volcanic component eruptions, requires
a much wider field.  Interchangeable eyepieces are also handy.  I
mostly use 10x wide field eyepieces, but do have 20x and 5x if needed.
Depth of field decreases as magnification increases.  The image might
not be in focus if you use too much magnification.

Also, a USB camera is very useful for displaying on an LCD display or
saving photos.  In that case, I suggest a trinocular microscope.  Make
sure the USB camera has a 0.5X lens so that you can use the entire
field of view.
<https://www.selectscience.net/editorial-articles/digital-camera-to-microscope-c-mount-adapters-explained/?artID=39079>

I use an Olympus SZ30 for PCB work at the office:
<http://www.learnbydestroying.com/jeffl/pics/microscopes/Olympus%20SZ30/slides/SZ30-01.html>
and various Bausch and Lomb microscopes at home for picking splinters
out of my skin, trimming fingernails, sharpening knives, reading the
fine print on contracts, and other items of importance.

More of my collection:
<http://www.learnbydestroying.com/jeffl/pics/microscopes>

>> A ring light that doesn't cut into the working distance is also very
>> important.  I made my own with a piece of PC board and some LEDs.
>
>I've been using a point source of light which I thought was pretty good 
>until I saw a ring light version - *vastly* superior.

I have two of these.
<https://www.ebay.com/itm/60-LED-Adjustable-Ring-Light-illuminator-Lamp-For-STEREO-ZOOM-Microscope-US-Ship/271435251906>
but all too often find myself using my pocket LED flashlight for
temporarily illumination.

-- 
Jeff Liebermann     jeffl@cruzio.com
150 Felker St #D    http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann     AE6KS    831-336-2558

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#519417

FromNeon John <no@never.com>
Date2018-10-15 19:05 -0400
Message-ID<d47asdprii1d0443k7vptahacg7radiu01@4ax.com>
In reply to#518884
On Wed, 10 Oct 2018 09:49:22 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
wrote:


>>Absolutely. And it doesn't necessarily need a zoom facility. Some types 
>>have interchangeable lenses and a high quality stereoscope with decent 
>>illumination is a huge improvement over anything else I've tried.

Hmmm, Like John Larkin, I've been using a Mantis scope for years and
have never felt the need for zoom.  The image has an amazing field of
view.  I have  2X and 10X objectives.  They overlap each other very
well.

John
John DeArmond
http://www.neon-john.com
http://www.tnduction.com 
Tellico Plains, Occupied TN
See website for email address

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#518651

FromTTman <kraken.sankey@gmail.com>
Date2018-10-07 19:55 +0100
Message-ID<ppdkqt$76m$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#518626
> 
> Just had some fun soldering a little chip on a bit less little adaptor:
>   http://panteltje.com/pub/LMX2332_on_DIL_adaptor_IMG_6607.JPG
> So proud of that!!

Really ? That's my bread and butter...

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#518632

Fromgnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com
Date2018-10-07 07:59 -0700
Message-ID<c273a5f2-6aa9-492e-9693-5b9eef0fe2b1@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#518623
On Sunday, October 7, 2018 at 5:22:23 AM UTC-4, Cursitor Doom wrote:
> On Sun, 07 Oct 2018 07:15:50 +0000, 698839253X6D445TD wrote:
> 
> > Sorry again about MS.
> 
> Hard to believe so many people are still using Windows.
> I didn't see your newsreader referenced in your headers, Jan. A curious 
> omission to make when you authored it yourself?

I just posted a question about porting a program from Windows to Linux and it was suggested I should run both at the same time...  lol  Obviously a lot of people don't feel Linux is the answer... depending on the question I suppose. 

Rick C. 

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#518750

FromJon Elson <elson@pico-systems.com>
Date2018-10-08 13:52 -0500
Message-ID<ZcudnfE1tqn3OibGnZ2dnUU7-RWdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#518632
On Sun, 07 Oct 2018 07:59:06 -0700, gnuarm.deletethisbit wrote:


> I just posted a question about porting a program from Windows to Linux
> and it was suggested I should run both at the same time...  lol 
> Obviously a lot of people don't feel Linux is the answer... depending on
> the question I suppose.
Some programs do not run properly under emulation environments like Wine.
I have used VMWare in the past, and now use VirtualBox to run both at 
once.  They really integrate both OS's and you can switch back and forth 
easily.  I use Linux as the main OS, Windows as the guest.  One trick I 
do is make the user directory be shared across on the Linux system, so I 
can see the Windows user files directly in Linux.

I use Windows to run Protel EDA software and the tax program.  Otherwise, 
I have moved everything over to Linux.  So, I run the Xilinx FPGA suite 
under Linux, and do programming and spreadsheet stuff there, too.

Jon

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#518597

FromJeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
Date2018-10-06 17:03 -0700
Message-ID<51jirdd07f16r9andgvgknems9i01ti1cb@4ax.com>
In reply to#518571
On Sat, 6 Oct 2018 20:19:41 +0100, TTman <kraken.sankey@gmail.com>
wrote:

>Can anyone suggest a sensible newsgroup reader and free feed ? I 
>currently use eternal september and thunderbird but I'm having trouble 
>migrating to a new machine. It's asking for logins/ pwds which have long 
>since been forgotten.

In Thunderbirdie, go to:
  Tools -> Options -> Security -> Passwords -> Saved Passwords 
  -> Show Passwords
and your long forgotten logins and passwords might re-appear if you
saved them for automatic login.

As to which newsreader to use, go through a newsgroup and look at the
Newsgroup line in the article headers.  You'll soon see what people
actually use for news readers.

-- 
Jeff Liebermann     jeffl@cruzio.com
150 Felker St #D    http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann     AE6KS    831-336-2558

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#518603

Fromgnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com
Date2018-10-06 19:04 -0700
Message-ID<3c6a26cd-2b50-443d-838f-845b5fd860eb@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#518571
On Saturday, October 6, 2018 at 3:19:51 PM UTC-4, TTman wrote:
> Can anyone suggest a sensible newsgroup reader and free feed ? I 
> currently use eternal september and thunderbird but I'm having trouble 
> migrating to a new machine. It's asking for logins/ pwds which have long 
> since been forgotten.
> Ta

Yeah, I was there.  Had some trouble with Tbird for some years but it basically worked, then it totally crapped out.  Tried Seamonkey which uses the same code base from long ago so is pretty compatible.  That had small problem after small problem even if you could get adequate support.  When I switched from a really crappy Win 8 machine from Lenovo to a not so bad machine with Win 10 I didn't want to bring either Tbird or Seamonkey with me, so I switched to Google Groups.  

GG is not so bad really.  I'm not doing anything fancy and don't really care so much about fancy features.  I get on GG from *any* machine.  I read posts.  I sometimes reply and life is ok if not especially good.  

I worry about "especially good" when I am drinking wine or eating dark chocolate or even better, both.  I remember the first time a winery served Dove dark chocolate with a rich, red wine and my entire life stepped up a notch. 

With newsgroups I don't get the same great feeling so I don't worry so much about optimizing it. 

Rick C.

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