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Tom Frederiksen, RIP Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2017-05-16 08:01 -0700
Tom Frederiksen, RIP bulegoge@columbus.rr.com - 2017-05-17 07:22 -0700
Re: Tom Frederiksen, RIP bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-05-17 08:22 -0700
Re: Tom Frederiksen, RIP Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2017-05-17 10:51 -0700
Re: Tom Frederiksen, RIP bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-05-17 18:28 -0700
Re: Tom Frederiksen, RIP Winfield Hill <hill@rowland.harvard.edu> - 2017-05-17 14:38 -0700
Re: Tom Frederiksen, RIP Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2017-05-17 15:58 -0700
Re: Tom Frederiksen, RIP Bob Engelhardt <BobEngelhardt@comcast.net> - 2017-05-17 23:10 -0400
Re: Tom Frederiksen, RIP stratus46 <stratus46@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-17 21:01 -0700
Re: Tom Frederiksen, RIP Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2017-05-17 21:21 -0700
Re: Tom Frederiksen, RIP bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-05-17 22:58 -0700
Re: Tom Frederiksen, RIP Winfield Hill <hill@rowland.harvard.edu> - 2017-05-18 10:26 -0700
Re: Tom Frederiksen, RIP Lasse Langwadt Christensen <langwadt@fonz.dk> - 2017-05-18 14:27 -0700
Re: Tom Frederiksen, RIP Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2017-05-18 14:38 -0700
Re: Tom Frederiksen, RIP Winfield Hill <hill@rowland.harvard.edu> - 2017-05-18 17:13 -0700
Re: Tom Frederiksen, RIP Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2017-05-18 18:02 -0700
Re: Tom Frederiksen, RIP Winfield Hill <hill@rowland.harvard.edu> - 2017-05-18 18:37 -0700
Re: Tom Frederiksen, RIP Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2017-05-18 19:14 -0700
Re: Tom Frederiksen, RIP Winfield Hill <hill@rowland.harvard.edu> - 2017-05-18 19:39 -0700
Re: Tom Frederiksen, RIP bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-05-18 20:57 -0700
Re: Tom Frederiksen, RIP Winfield Hill <hill@rowland.harvard.edu> - 2017-05-19 08:11 -0700
Re: Tom Frederiksen, RIP Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2017-05-19 08:22 -0700
Re: Tom Frederiksen, RIP Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> - 2017-05-19 11:29 -0400
Re: Tom Frederiksen, RIP Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2017-05-19 08:46 -0700
Re: Tom Frederiksen, RIP Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> - 2017-05-19 12:08 -0400
Re: Tom Frederiksen, RIP Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2017-05-19 09:13 -0700
Re: Tom Frederiksen, RIP bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-05-19 20:05 -0700
Re: Tom Frederiksen, RIP Winfield Hill <hill@rowland.harvard.edu> - 2017-05-19 09:46 -0700
Re: Tom Frederiksen, RIP Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2017-05-19 09:56 -0700
Re: Tom Frederiksen, RIP bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-05-19 20:17 -0700
Re: Tom Frederiksen, RIP Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2017-05-20 10:56 -0700
Re: Tom Frederiksen, RIP bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-05-21 05:21 -0700
Re: Tom Frederiksen, RIP Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2017-05-21 08:48 -0700
Re: Tom Frederiksen, RIP bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-05-21 22:01 -0700
Re: Tom Frederiksen, RIP Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2017-05-20 11:12 -0700
Re: Tom Frederiksen, RIP cameo <cameo@unreal.invalid> - 2017-05-18 20:06 -0700
Re: Tom Frederiksen, RIP cameo <cameo@unreal.invalid> - 2017-05-18 20:20 -0700
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| From | Winfield Hill <hill@rowland.harvard.edu> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2017-05-19 08:11 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <ofn1vl01mvs@drn.newsguy.com> |
| In reply to | #460898 |
bill.sloman@ieee.org wrote...
>
> Winfield Hill wrote:
>> Jim Thompson wrote...
>>> Winfield Hill wrote:
>>>> Jim Thompson wrote...
>>>>> Winfield Hill wrote:
>>>>>> Jim Thompson wrote...
>>>>>>> Lasse Langwadt Christensen wrote:
>>>>>>>> Winfield Hill wrote:
>>>>>>>>> bill.sloman@ieee.org wrote...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> But Jim can't name an integrated circuit he designed. ...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I know he was a specialist in high-power IC design,
>>>>>>>>> see his 1968 paper in JSSC, "A Monolithic High-Power
>>>>>>>>> Series Voltage Regulator", and with James Solomon,
>>>>>>>>> "A High-Performance 3-Watt Monolithic Class-B Power
>>>>>>>>> Amplifier"; both were probably Motorola parts. And
>>>>>>>>> I have his paper on a Monolithic-Sonar-System. There
>>>>>>>>> are likely many more papers if one were to look. He
>>>>>>>>> also had patents, which I have stored in my computer.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'll browse the patents and can probably identify those
>>>>> products that are Motorola's.
>>>>
>>>> I'm curious about the two Motorola papers I quoted.
>>>
>>> I'm not sure they are Motorola papers. By 1968, they both may
>>> have left Motorola... there was some turmoil in those days ;-)
>>
>> Both papers list Motorola affiliation, that is they were
>> Motorola paid-for projects. Check them out on DropBox.
>> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/t27kt0zjnxo8a3p/AABRbcodOSEzxyBUaikzic1ia?dl=0
>
>The first paper looks as if it might correspond to the LM4871 - which is not a
>number I ever ran into, and sounds a good deal later than 1968. The LM380 and
>LM384 seem to fit the bill better - the LM380 is credited with 2.5W on the data
>sheet, and the LM3284 was a selected part that could survive a higher supply
>voltage and was rated for 5W.
>
>http://www.ti.com/lit/ds/symlink/lm380.pdf
>
>The second part is a voltage regulator, and Bob Widlar managed to corner most of
>the glory there.
Ahem, both were Motorola designs rather than NSC. But I
suppose it's possible neither were put into production.
--
Thanks,
- Win
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| From | Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2017-05-19 08:22 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <b62uhc9je52uqtdienfc2ea77kc453tdpg@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #460895 |
On 18 May 2017 19:39:50 -0700, Winfield Hill
<hill@rowland.harvard.edu> wrote:
>Jim Thompson wrote...
>>
>>On 18 May 2017 18:37:15 -0700, Winfield Hill
>><hill@rowland.harvard.edu> wrote:
>>
>>>Jim Thompson wrote...
>>>>
>>>>Winfield Hill wrote:
>>>>> Jim Thompson wrote...
>>>>>> Lasse Langwadt Christensen wrote:
>>>>>>> Winfield Hill wrote:
>>>>>>>> bill.sloman@ieee.org wrote...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> But Jim can't name an integrated circuit he designed. ...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I know he was a specialist in high-power IC design,
>>>>>>>> see his 1968 paper in JSSC, "A Monolithic High-Power
>>>>>>>> Series Voltage Regulator", and with James Solomon,
>>>>>>>> "A High-Performance 3-Watt Monolithic Class-B Power
>>>>>>>> Amplifier"; both were probably Motorola parts. And
>>>>>>>> I have his paper on a Monolithic-Sonar-System. There
>>>>>>>> are likely many more papers if one were to look. He
>>>>>>>> also had patents, which I have stored in my computer.
>>>>
>>>> I'll browse the patents and can probably identify those
>>>> products that are Motorola's.
>>>
>>> I'm curious about the two Motorola papers I quoted.
>>
>> I'm not sure they are Motorola papers. By 1968, they both may
>> have left Motorola... there was some turmoil in those days ;-)
>
> Both papers list Motorola affiliation, that is they were
> Motorola paid-for projects. Check them out on DropBox.
> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/t27kt0zjnxo8a3p/AABRbcodOSEzxyBUaikzic1ia?dl=0
Paper "1968_Frederiksen,Solomon_amplifier.pdf" is MC1554... the output
stage is my scheme... a sliding class-A version can be seen in the
MC1530/31 OpAmps.
Paper "Frederiksen_regulator_JSSC(1968).pdf" looks like am LM117
regulator. I am unaware of what Motorola might have called it, I was
not involved with regulators at that point-in-time, just PLL's and
A/D/A (and I might have been away at Philco-Ford doing automotive
stuff :-).
Note that Figure 6 is my current mirror scheme (not credited in
standard Jim Solomon style). He was a cretin who got his ass publicly
handed to him on a platter by writing a paper claiming he created the
Gilbert multiplier.
It'll take me a few days to got thru the patents (*), but US4607172 is
an NSC comparator, part number unknown, should have be found to
infringe my patent US3638041, MC1650/51 MECL Comparators.
(*) I use Patent Fetcher which restricts me to 6 per 24 hour period
without charge ;-)
...Jim Thompson
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| From | Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2017-05-19 11:29 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <dd2c7b78-0352-3426-fceb-0f8d36c8b0b1@electrooptical.net> |
| In reply to | #460925 |
On 05/19/2017 11:22 AM, Jim Thompson wrote: > On 18 May 2017 19:39:50 -0700, Winfield Hill > <hill@rowland.harvard.edu> wrote: > >> Jim Thompson wrote... >>> >>> On 18 May 2017 18:37:15 -0700, Winfield Hill >>> <hill@rowland.harvard.edu> wrote: >>> >>>> Jim Thompson wrote... >>>>> >>>>> Winfield Hill wrote: >>>>>> Jim Thompson wrote... >>>>>>> Lasse Langwadt Christensen wrote: >>>>>>>> Winfield Hill wrote: >>>>>>>>> bill.sloman@ieee.org wrote... >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> But Jim can't name an integrated circuit he designed. ... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I know he was a specialist in high-power IC design, >>>>>>>>> see his 1968 paper in JSSC, "A Monolithic High-Power >>>>>>>>> Series Voltage Regulator", and with James Solomon, >>>>>>>>> "A High-Performance 3-Watt Monolithic Class-B Power >>>>>>>>> Amplifier"; both were probably Motorola parts. And >>>>>>>>> I have his paper on a Monolithic-Sonar-System. There >>>>>>>>> are likely many more papers if one were to look. He >>>>>>>>> also had patents, which I have stored in my computer. >>>>> >>>>> I'll browse the patents and can probably identify those >>>>> products that are Motorola's. >>>> >>>> I'm curious about the two Motorola papers I quoted. >>> >>> I'm not sure they are Motorola papers. By 1968, they both may >>> have left Motorola... there was some turmoil in those days ;-) >> >> Both papers list Motorola affiliation, that is they were >> Motorola paid-for projects. Check them out on DropBox. >> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/t27kt0zjnxo8a3p/AABRbcodOSEzxyBUaikzic1ia?dl=0 > > Paper "1968_Frederiksen,Solomon_amplifier.pdf" is MC1554... the output > stage is my scheme... a sliding class-A version can be seen in the > MC1530/31 OpAmps. > > Paper "Frederiksen_regulator_JSSC(1968).pdf" looks like am LM117 > regulator. I am unaware of what Motorola might have called it, I was > not involved with regulators at that point-in-time, just PLL's and > A/D/A (and I might have been away at Philco-Ford doing automotive > stuff :-). > > Note that Figure 6 is my current mirror scheme (not credited in > standard Jim Solomon style). He was a cretin who got his ass publicly > handed to him on a platter by writing a paper claiming he created the > Gilbert multiplier. > > It'll take me a few days to got thru the patents (*), but US4607172 is > an NSC comparator, part number unknown, should have be found to > infringe my patent US3638041, MC1650/51 MECL Comparators. When two patents cover the same invention it's called "interference", not "infringement". > (*) I use Patent Fetcher which restricts me to 6 per 24 hour period > without charge ;-) Google Patents is free. IIRC some of the PDFs aren't OCRed. Those ones, I usually fix using any2djvu: http://djvu.org/any2djvu/ I like the djvu format, and it's unlikely to be vulnerable to PDF nasties anyway. Cheers Phil Hobbs -- Dr Philip C D Hobbs Principal Consultant ElectroOptical Innovations LLC Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics 160 North State Road #203 Briarcliff Manor NY 10510 hobbs at electrooptical dot net http://electrooptical.net
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| From | Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2017-05-19 08:46 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <0p4uhcls880t3u4nes3mgjuospqoac54pe@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #460929 |
On Fri, 19 May 2017 11:29:03 -0400, Phil Hobbs
<pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:
>On 05/19/2017 11:22 AM, Jim Thompson wrote:
>> On 18 May 2017 19:39:50 -0700, Winfield Hill
>> <hill@rowland.harvard.edu> wrote:
>>
>>> Jim Thompson wrote...
>>>>
>>>> On 18 May 2017 18:37:15 -0700, Winfield Hill
>>>> <hill@rowland.harvard.edu> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Jim Thompson wrote...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Winfield Hill wrote:
>>>>>>> Jim Thompson wrote...
>>>>>>>> Lasse Langwadt Christensen wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Winfield Hill wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> bill.sloman@ieee.org wrote...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> But Jim can't name an integrated circuit he designed. ...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I know he was a specialist in high-power IC design,
>>>>>>>>>> see his 1968 paper in JSSC, "A Monolithic High-Power
>>>>>>>>>> Series Voltage Regulator", and with James Solomon,
>>>>>>>>>> "A High-Performance 3-Watt Monolithic Class-B Power
>>>>>>>>>> Amplifier"; both were probably Motorola parts. And
>>>>>>>>>> I have his paper on a Monolithic-Sonar-System. There
>>>>>>>>>> are likely many more papers if one were to look. He
>>>>>>>>>> also had patents, which I have stored in my computer.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'll browse the patents and can probably identify those
>>>>>> products that are Motorola's.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm curious about the two Motorola papers I quoted.
>>>>
>>>> I'm not sure they are Motorola papers. By 1968, they both may
>>>> have left Motorola... there was some turmoil in those days ;-)
>>>
>>> Both papers list Motorola affiliation, that is they were
>>> Motorola paid-for projects. Check them out on DropBox.
>>> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/t27kt0zjnxo8a3p/AABRbcodOSEzxyBUaikzic1ia?dl=0
>>
>> Paper "1968_Frederiksen,Solomon_amplifier.pdf" is MC1554... the output
>> stage is my scheme... a sliding class-A version can be seen in the
>> MC1530/31 OpAmps.
>>
>> Paper "Frederiksen_regulator_JSSC(1968).pdf" looks like am LM117
>> regulator. I am unaware of what Motorola might have called it, I was
>> not involved with regulators at that point-in-time, just PLL's and
>> A/D/A (and I might have been away at Philco-Ford doing automotive
>> stuff :-).
>>
>> Note that Figure 6 is my current mirror scheme (not credited in
>> standard Jim Solomon style). He was a cretin who got his ass publicly
>> handed to him on a platter by writing a paper claiming he created the
>> Gilbert multiplier.
>>
>> It'll take me a few days to got thru the patents (*), but US4607172 is
>> an NSC comparator, part number unknown, should have be found to
>> infringe my patent US3638041, MC1650/51 MECL Comparators.
>
>When two patents cover the same invention it's called "interference",
>not "infringement".
The patent examiner should have caught it.
>
>
>> (*) I use Patent Fetcher which restricts me to 6 per 24 hour period
>> without charge ;-)
>
>Google Patents is free. IIRC some of the PDFs aren't OCRed. Those
>ones, I usually fix using any2djvu:
>
>http://djvu.org/any2djvu/
>
>I like the djvu format, and it's unlikely to be vulnerable to PDF
>nasties anyway.
>
>Cheers
>
>Phil Hobbs
...Jim Thompson
--
| James E.Thompson | mens |
| Analog Innovations | et |
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
| STV, Queen Creek, AZ 85142 Skype: skypeanalog | |
| Voice:(480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat |
| E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 |
Thinking outside the box... producing elegant solutions.
"It is not in doing what you like, but in liking what you do that
is the secret of happiness." -James Barrie
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| From | Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2017-05-19 12:08 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <25CdnXhmK6UIhYLEnZ2dnUU7-LPNnZ2d@supernews.com> |
| In reply to | #460934 |
On 05/19/2017 11:46 AM, Jim Thompson wrote: > On Fri, 19 May 2017 11:29:03 -0400, Phil Hobbs > <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote: > >> On 05/19/2017 11:22 AM, Jim Thompson wrote: >>> On 18 May 2017 19:39:50 -0700, Winfield Hill >>> <hill@rowland.harvard.edu> wrote: >>> >>>> Jim Thompson wrote... >>>>> >>>>> On 18 May 2017 18:37:15 -0700, Winfield Hill >>>>> <hill@rowland.harvard.edu> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Jim Thompson wrote... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Winfield Hill wrote: >>>>>>>> Jim Thompson wrote... >>>>>>>>> Lasse Langwadt Christensen wrote: >>>>>>>>>> Winfield Hill wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> bill.sloman@ieee.org wrote... >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> But Jim can't name an integrated circuit he designed. ... >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I know he was a specialist in high-power IC design, >>>>>>>>>>> see his 1968 paper in JSSC, "A Monolithic High-Power >>>>>>>>>>> Series Voltage Regulator", and with James Solomon, >>>>>>>>>>> "A High-Performance 3-Watt Monolithic Class-B Power >>>>>>>>>>> Amplifier"; both were probably Motorola parts. And >>>>>>>>>>> I have his paper on a Monolithic-Sonar-System. There >>>>>>>>>>> are likely many more papers if one were to look. He >>>>>>>>>>> also had patents, which I have stored in my computer. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'll browse the patents and can probably identify those >>>>>>> products that are Motorola's. >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm curious about the two Motorola papers I quoted. >>>>> >>>>> I'm not sure they are Motorola papers. By 1968, they both may >>>>> have left Motorola... there was some turmoil in those days ;-) >>>> >>>> Both papers list Motorola affiliation, that is they were >>>> Motorola paid-for projects. Check them out on DropBox. >>>> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/t27kt0zjnxo8a3p/AABRbcodOSEzxyBUaikzic1ia?dl=0 >>> >>> Paper "1968_Frederiksen,Solomon_amplifier.pdf" is MC1554... the output >>> stage is my scheme... a sliding class-A version can be seen in the >>> MC1530/31 OpAmps. >>> >>> Paper "Frederiksen_regulator_JSSC(1968).pdf" looks like am LM117 >>> regulator. I am unaware of what Motorola might have called it, I was >>> not involved with regulators at that point-in-time, just PLL's and >>> A/D/A (and I might have been away at Philco-Ford doing automotive >>> stuff :-). >>> >>> Note that Figure 6 is my current mirror scheme (not credited in >>> standard Jim Solomon style). He was a cretin who got his ass publicly >>> handed to him on a platter by writing a paper claiming he created the >>> Gilbert multiplier. >>> >>> It'll take me a few days to got thru the patents (*), but US4607172 is >>> an NSC comparator, part number unknown, should have be found to >>> infringe my patent US3638041, MC1650/51 MECL Comparators. >> >> When two patents cover the same invention it's called "interference", >> not "infringement". > > The patent examiner should have caught it. Yup. They only have about 8 hours assigned to each application, though, and rely very heavily on keyword searches to find prior art. Garrett Moddel of U Colorado and I (IBM) have almost the exact same patent on waveguide-integrated tunnel junction optical modulators. If either of us had been able to make them work, it could have been an interesting fight. ;) It's possible to have the same invention described in quite different terms, so that a simple keyword search doesn't find the prior art. There's an appeals process in the USPTO that handles interferences and re-examinations. I've done a few re-exams--the rules are much more like the initial examination and much less like a district court case. The patent owner has to prove his case in a re-exam, whereas in court there's a strong presumption of the validity of an issued patent. Cheers Phil Hobbs -- Dr Philip C D Hobbs Principal Consultant ElectroOptical Innovations LLC Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics 160 North State Road #203 Briarcliff Manor NY 10510 hobbs at electrooptical dot net http://electrooptical.net
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| From | Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2017-05-19 09:13 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <386uhcpanu38f323amia5apq5fper75jpa@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #460940 |
On Fri, 19 May 2017 12:08:53 -0400, Phil Hobbs
<pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:
>On 05/19/2017 11:46 AM, Jim Thompson wrote:
>> On Fri, 19 May 2017 11:29:03 -0400, Phil Hobbs
>> <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:
>>
>>> On 05/19/2017 11:22 AM, Jim Thompson wrote:
>>>> On 18 May 2017 19:39:50 -0700, Winfield Hill
>>>> <hill@rowland.harvard.edu> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Jim Thompson wrote...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 18 May 2017 18:37:15 -0700, Winfield Hill
>>>>>> <hill@rowland.harvard.edu> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jim Thompson wrote...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Winfield Hill wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Jim Thompson wrote...
>>>>>>>>>> Lasse Langwadt Christensen wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Winfield Hill wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> bill.sloman@ieee.org wrote...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> But Jim can't name an integrated circuit he designed. ...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I know he was a specialist in high-power IC design,
>>>>>>>>>>>> see his 1968 paper in JSSC, "A Monolithic High-Power
>>>>>>>>>>>> Series Voltage Regulator", and with James Solomon,
>>>>>>>>>>>> "A High-Performance 3-Watt Monolithic Class-B Power
>>>>>>>>>>>> Amplifier"; both were probably Motorola parts. And
>>>>>>>>>>>> I have his paper on a Monolithic-Sonar-System. There
>>>>>>>>>>>> are likely many more papers if one were to look. He
>>>>>>>>>>>> also had patents, which I have stored in my computer.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'll browse the patents and can probably identify those
>>>>>>>> products that are Motorola's.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm curious about the two Motorola papers I quoted.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm not sure they are Motorola papers. By 1968, they both may
>>>>>> have left Motorola... there was some turmoil in those days ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>> Both papers list Motorola affiliation, that is they were
>>>>> Motorola paid-for projects. Check them out on DropBox.
>>>>> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/t27kt0zjnxo8a3p/AABRbcodOSEzxyBUaikzic1ia?dl=0
>>>>
>>>> Paper "1968_Frederiksen,Solomon_amplifier.pdf" is MC1554... the output
>>>> stage is my scheme... a sliding class-A version can be seen in the
>>>> MC1530/31 OpAmps.
>>>>
>>>> Paper "Frederiksen_regulator_JSSC(1968).pdf" looks like am LM117
>>>> regulator. I am unaware of what Motorola might have called it, I was
>>>> not involved with regulators at that point-in-time, just PLL's and
>>>> A/D/A (and I might have been away at Philco-Ford doing automotive
>>>> stuff :-).
>>>>
>>>> Note that Figure 6 is my current mirror scheme (not credited in
>>>> standard Jim Solomon style). He was a cretin who got his ass publicly
>>>> handed to him on a platter by writing a paper claiming he created the
>>>> Gilbert multiplier.
>>>>
>>>> It'll take me a few days to got thru the patents (*), but US4607172 is
>>>> an NSC comparator, part number unknown, should have be found to
>>>> infringe my patent US3638041, MC1650/51 MECL Comparators.
>>>
>>> When two patents cover the same invention it's called "interference",
>>> not "infringement".
>>
>> The patent examiner should have caught it.
>
>Yup. They only have about 8 hours assigned to each application, though,
>and rely very heavily on keyword searches to find prior art.
>
>Garrett Moddel of U Colorado and I (IBM) have almost the exact same
>patent on waveguide-integrated tunnel junction optical modulators. If
>either of us had been able to make them work, it could have been an
>interesting fight. ;)
>
>It's possible to have the same invention described in quite different
>terms, so that a simple keyword search doesn't find the prior art.
>
>There's an appeals process in the USPTO that handles interferences and
>re-examinations. I've done a few re-exams--the rules are much more like
>the initial examination and much less like a district court case. The
>patent owner has to prove his case in a re-exam, whereas in court
>there's a strong presumption of the validity of an issued patent.
>
>Cheers
>
>Phil Hobbs
My 3,491,301 was initially denied. Then I told the examiner he was
too dumb to understand it (I was only 25 at the time :-) The examiner
allowed it ;-)
...Jim Thompson
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| From | bill.sloman@ieee.org |
|---|---|
| Date | 2017-05-19 20:05 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <fb8b6f84-a5a7-45a2-8089-d010ef79bf6e@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #460940 |
On Saturday, May 20, 2017 at 2:09:01 AM UTC+10, Phil Hobbs wrote: > On 05/19/2017 11:46 AM, Jim Thompson wrote: > > On Fri, 19 May 2017 11:29:03 -0400, Phil Hobbs > > <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote: > > > >> On 05/19/2017 11:22 AM, Jim Thompson wrote: > >>> On 18 May 2017 19:39:50 -0700, Winfield Hill > >>> <hill@rowland.harvard.edu> wrote: > >>> > >>>> Jim Thompson wrote... > >>>>> > >>>>> On 18 May 2017 18:37:15 -0700, Winfield Hill > >>>>> <hill@rowland.harvard.edu> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> Jim Thompson wrote... > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Winfield Hill wrote: > >>>>>>>> Jim Thompson wrote... > >>>>>>>>> Lasse Langwadt Christensen wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> Winfield Hill wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>> bill.sloman@ieee.org wrote... > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> But Jim can't name an integrated circuit he designed. ... > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> I know he was a specialist in high-power IC design, > >>>>>>>>>>> see his 1968 paper in JSSC, "A Monolithic High-Power > >>>>>>>>>>> Series Voltage Regulator", and with James Solomon, > >>>>>>>>>>> "A High-Performance 3-Watt Monolithic Class-B Power > >>>>>>>>>>> Amplifier"; both were probably Motorola parts. And > >>>>>>>>>>> I have his paper on a Monolithic-Sonar-System. There > >>>>>>>>>>> are likely many more papers if one were to look. He > >>>>>>>>>>> also had patents, which I have stored in my computer. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I'll browse the patents and can probably identify those > >>>>>>> products that are Motorola's. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I'm curious about the two Motorola papers I quoted. > >>>>> > >>>>> I'm not sure they are Motorola papers. By 1968, they both may > >>>>> have left Motorola... there was some turmoil in those days ;-) > >>>> > >>>> Both papers list Motorola affiliation, that is they were > >>>> Motorola paid-for projects. Check them out on DropBox. > >>>> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/t27kt0zjnxo8a3p/AABRbcodOSEzxyBUaikzic1ia?dl=0 > >>> > >>> Paper "1968_Frederiksen,Solomon_amplifier.pdf" is MC1554... the output > >>> stage is my scheme... a sliding class-A version can be seen in the > >>> MC1530/31 OpAmps. > >>> > >>> Paper "Frederiksen_regulator_JSSC(1968).pdf" looks like am LM117 > >>> regulator. I am unaware of what Motorola might have called it, I was > >>> not involved with regulators at that point-in-time, just PLL's and > >>> A/D/A (and I might have been away at Philco-Ford doing automotive > >>> stuff :-). > >>> > >>> Note that Figure 6 is my current mirror scheme (not credited in > >>> standard Jim Solomon style). He was a cretin who got his ass publicly > >>> handed to him on a platter by writing a paper claiming he created the > >>> Gilbert multiplier. > >>> > >>> It'll take me a few days to got thru the patents (*), but US4607172 is > >>> an NSC comparator, part number unknown, should have be found to > >>> infringe my patent US3638041, MC1650/51 MECL Comparators. > >> > >> When two patents cover the same invention it's called "interference", > >> not "infringement". > > > > The patent examiner should have caught it. > > Yup. They only have about 8 hours assigned to each application, though, > and rely very heavily on keyword searches to find prior art. > > Garrett Moddel of U Colorado and I (IBM) have almost the exact same > patent on waveguide-integrated tunnel junction optical modulators. If > either of us had been able to make them work, it could have been an > interesting fight. ;) > > It's possible to have the same invention described in quite different > terms, so that a simple keyword search doesn't find the prior art. The RCA and EMI colour TV patents described the process of putting the colour information on a sub-carrier as "quadrature modulation" and "sine-cosine modulation" respectively. EMI patented it first, but the US court decided that the two descriptions implied different processes - they didn't say how - so the RCA patent stood - surprise, surprise. -- Bill Sloman, Sydney
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| From | Winfield Hill <hill@rowland.harvard.edu> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2017-05-19 09:46 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <ofn7gq0207k@drn.newsguy.com> |
| In reply to | #460925 |
Jim Thompson wrote...
>
>Paper "Frederiksen_regulator_JSSC(1968).pdf" looks like am LM117
>regulator. I am unaware of what Motorola might have called it, I was
>not involved with regulators at that point-in-time, just PLL's and
>A/D/A (and I might have been away at Philco-Ford doing automotive
>stuff :-).
>
>Note that Figure 6 is my current mirror scheme (not credited in
>standard Jim Solomon style). He was a cretin who got his ass publicly
>handed to him on a platter by writing a paper claiming he created the
>Gilbert multiplier.
You're talking about Figure 6 in the Frederiksen
sole-author regulator paper (not the joint paper
with Solomon), right? Tom credits you in a footnote:
"This circuit was suggested by J. E. Thompson."
Its purpose was to deal with very poor PNP beta?
--
Thanks,
- Win
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| From | Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2017-05-19 09:56 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <vp8uhc9ve0eircu3br71k3kni52etl7k6r@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #460950 |
On 19 May 2017 09:46:18 -0700, Winfield Hill
<hill@rowland.harvard.edu> wrote:
>Jim Thompson wrote...
>>
>>Paper "Frederiksen_regulator_JSSC(1968).pdf" looks like am LM117
>>regulator. I am unaware of what Motorola might have called it, I was
>>not involved with regulators at that point-in-time, just PLL's and
>>A/D/A (and I might have been away at Philco-Ford doing automotive
>>stuff :-).
>>
>>Note that Figure 6 is my current mirror scheme (not credited in
>>standard Jim Solomon style). He was a cretin who got his ass publicly
>>handed to him on a platter by writing a paper claiming he created the
>>Gilbert multiplier.
>
> You're talking about Figure 6 in the Frederiksen
> sole-author regulator paper (not the joint paper
> with Solomon), right? Tom credits you in a footnote:
> "This circuit was suggested by J. E. Thompson."
> Its purpose was to deal with very poor PNP beta?
Thanks, I missed that. Yes, it side-steps the poor lateral-PNP beta
problem.
...Jim Thompson
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| From | bill.sloman@ieee.org |
|---|---|
| Date | 2017-05-19 20:17 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <951e6393-131a-4653-9d7a-8ec46b58a1e1@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #460925 |
On Saturday, May 20, 2017 at 1:22:13 AM UTC+10, Jim Thompson wrote: > On 18 May 2017 19:39:50 -0700, Winfield Hill > <hill@rowland.harvard.edu> wrote: > > >Jim Thompson wrote... > >> > >>On 18 May 2017 18:37:15 -0700, Winfield Hill > >><hill@rowland.harvard.edu> wrote: > >> > >>>Jim Thompson wrote... > >>>> > >>>>Winfield Hill wrote: > >>>>> Jim Thompson wrote... > >>>>>> Lasse Langwadt Christensen wrote: > >>>>>>> Winfield Hill wrote: > >>>>>>>> bill.sloman@ieee.org wrote... > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> But Jim can't name an integrated circuit he designed. ... > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> I know he was a specialist in high-power IC design, > >>>>>>>> see his 1968 paper in JSSC, "A Monolithic High-Power > >>>>>>>> Series Voltage Regulator", and with James Solomon, > >>>>>>>> "A High-Performance 3-Watt Monolithic Class-B Power > >>>>>>>> Amplifier"; both were probably Motorola parts. And > >>>>>>>> I have his paper on a Monolithic-Sonar-System. There > >>>>>>>> are likely many more papers if one were to look. He > >>>>>>>> also had patents, which I have stored in my computer. > >>>> > >>>> I'll browse the patents and can probably identify those > >>>> products that are Motorola's. > >>> > >>> I'm curious about the two Motorola papers I quoted. > >> > >> I'm not sure they are Motorola papers. By 1968, they both may > >> have left Motorola... there was some turmoil in those days ;-) > > > > Both papers list Motorola affiliation, that is they were > > Motorola paid-for projects. Check them out on DropBox. > > https://www.dropbox.com/sh/t27kt0zjnxo8a3p/AABRbcodOSEzxyBUaikzic1ia?dl=0 > > Paper "1968_Frederiksen,Solomon_amplifier.pdf" is MC1554... the output > stage is my scheme... a sliding class-A version can be seen in the > MC1530/31 OpAmps. http://pdf1.alldatasheet.com/datasheet-pdf/view/907067/HARRIS/MC1554G.html lists it as a 1-Watt power amplifier. > Paper "Frederiksen_regulator_JSSC(1968).pdf" looks like an LM117 > regulator. Bob Pease seems to think that it was a National Semiconductor home product http://www.tayloredge.com/reference/Ganssle-Pease/bobpease-bandgap.pdf -- Bill Sloman, Sydney
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| From | Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2017-05-20 10:56 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <r601ic5ulsqmfstqgq0q6difd83gh8ar5b@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #461009 |
On Fri, 19 May 2017 20:17:45 -0700 (PDT), bill.sloman@ieee.org wrote:
>On Saturday, May 20, 2017 at 1:22:13 AM UTC+10, Jim Thompson wrote:
>> On 18 May 2017 19:39:50 -0700, Winfield Hill
>> <hill@rowland.harvard.edu> wrote:
>>
>> >Jim Thompson wrote...
>> >>
>> >>On 18 May 2017 18:37:15 -0700, Winfield Hill
>> >><hill@rowland.harvard.edu> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>Jim Thompson wrote...
>> >>>>
>> >>>>Winfield Hill wrote:
>> >>>>> Jim Thompson wrote...
>> >>>>>> Lasse Langwadt Christensen wrote:
>> >>>>>>> Winfield Hill wrote:
>> >>>>>>>> bill.sloman@ieee.org wrote...
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> But Jim can't name an integrated circuit he designed. ...
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> I know he was a specialist in high-power IC design,
>> >>>>>>>> see his 1968 paper in JSSC, "A Monolithic High-Power
>> >>>>>>>> Series Voltage Regulator", and with James Solomon,
>> >>>>>>>> "A High-Performance 3-Watt Monolithic Class-B Power
>> >>>>>>>> Amplifier"; both were probably Motorola parts. And
>> >>>>>>>> I have his paper on a Monolithic-Sonar-System. There
>> >>>>>>>> are likely many more papers if one were to look. He
>> >>>>>>>> also had patents, which I have stored in my computer.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I'll browse the patents and can probably identify those
>> >>>> products that are Motorola's.
>> >>>
>> >>> I'm curious about the two Motorola papers I quoted.
>> >>
>> >> I'm not sure they are Motorola papers. By 1968, they both may
>> >> have left Motorola... there was some turmoil in those days ;-)
>> >
>> > Both papers list Motorola affiliation, that is they were
>> > Motorola paid-for projects. Check them out on DropBox.
>> > https://www.dropbox.com/sh/t27kt0zjnxo8a3p/AABRbcodOSEzxyBUaikzic1ia?dl=0
>>
>> Paper "1968_Frederiksen,Solomon_amplifier.pdf" is MC1554... the output
>> stage is my scheme... a sliding class-A version can be seen in the
>> MC1530/31 OpAmps.
>
>http://pdf1.alldatasheet.com/datasheet-pdf/view/907067/HARRIS/MC1554G.html
>
>lists it as a 1-Watt power amplifier.
Slowman seems to have a mental deficiency requiring incessant
insistence on being a horse's ass.
Original release MC1554 was in a TO-5 can (MC1554G) and was thus rated
(optimistically) as 1-Watt, based on a slip-on finned heat-sink.
I lost a bet to Tom concerning how much power output could be
attained. He opined some outrageous amount... I don't remember, maybe
10-Watts (after all, we're talking 50+ years ago). I said, "No way".
I lost. I came to work one Monday morning to find that Tom had come
in over the weekend and machined a slab of Aluminum such that a TO-5
could be force-fit into it. He also drilled a pathway thru the block
with threaded fitting such that he could pipe CO2 thru it. Voila!
10-Watts (or whatever grotesque amount ;-)
>
>> Paper "Frederiksen_regulator_JSSC(1968).pdf" looks like an LM117
>> regulator.
>
>Bob Pease seems to think that it was a National Semiconductor home product
>
>http://www.tayloredge.com/reference/Ganssle-Pease/bobpease-bandgap.pdf
LM117 is the numbering assigned by National... I'm not sure if it was
(initially) made at Motorola Semiconductor Products Division...
Motorola SPD was heading into its final death spiral in that time
frame.
...Jim Thompson
--
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"It is not in doing what you like, but in liking what you do that
is the secret of happiness." -James Barrie
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| From | bill.sloman@ieee.org |
|---|---|
| Date | 2017-05-21 05:21 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <cd29b267-b510-485d-b23f-8d2de994fd13@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #461051 |
On Sunday, May 21, 2017 at 3:56:57 AM UTC+10, Jim Thompson wrote: > On Fri, 19 May 2017 20:17:45 -0700 (PDT), bill.sloman@ieee.org wrote: > > >On Saturday, May 20, 2017 at 1:22:13 AM UTC+10, Jim Thompson wrote: > >> On 18 May 2017 19:39:50 -0700, Winfield Hill > >> <hill@rowland.harvard.edu> wrote: > >> > >> >Jim Thompson wrote... > >> >> > >> >>On 18 May 2017 18:37:15 -0700, Winfield Hill > >> >><hill@rowland.harvard.edu> wrote: > >> >> > >> >>>Jim Thompson wrote... > >> >>>> > >> >>>>Winfield Hill wrote: > >> >>>>> Jim Thompson wrote... > >> >>>>>> Lasse Langwadt Christensen wrote: > >> >>>>>>> Winfield Hill wrote: > >> >>>>>>>> bill.sloman@ieee.org wrote... > >> >>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>> But Jim can't name an integrated circuit he designed. ... > >> >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>> I know he was a specialist in high-power IC design, > >> >>>>>>>> see his 1968 paper in JSSC, "A Monolithic High-Power > >> >>>>>>>> Series Voltage Regulator", and with James Solomon, > >> >>>>>>>> "A High-Performance 3-Watt Monolithic Class-B Power > >> >>>>>>>> Amplifier"; both were probably Motorola parts. And > >> >>>>>>>> I have his paper on a Monolithic-Sonar-System. There > >> >>>>>>>> are likely many more papers if one were to look. He > >> >>>>>>>> also had patents, which I have stored in my computer. > >> >>>> > >> >>>> I'll browse the patents and can probably identify those > >> >>>> products that are Motorola's. > >> >>> > >> >>> I'm curious about the two Motorola papers I quoted. > >> >> > >> >> I'm not sure they are Motorola papers. By 1968, they both may > >> >> have left Motorola... there was some turmoil in those days ;-) > >> > > >> > Both papers list Motorola affiliation, that is they were > >> > Motorola paid-for projects. Check them out on DropBox. > >> > https://www.dropbox.com/sh/t27kt0zjnxo8a3p/AABRbcodOSEzxyBUaikzic1ia?dl=0 > >> > >> Paper "1968_Frederiksen,Solomon_amplifier.pdf" is MC1554... the output > >> stage is my scheme... a sliding class-A version can be seen in the > >> MC1530/31 OpAmps. > > > >http://pdf1.alldatasheet.com/datasheet-pdf/view/907067/HARRIS/MC1554G.html > > > >lists it as a 1-Watt power amplifier. > > Sloman seems to have a mental deficiency requiring incessant > insistence on being a horse's ass. > > Original release MC1554 was in a TO-5 can (MC1554G) and was thus rated > (optimistically) as 1-Watt, based on a slip-on finned heat-sink. Jim Thompson seems to be suggesting that the mental deficiency was at Motorola - there's not a lot of point in developing a 3-Watt chip and selling it in a 1-Watt package. National Semiconductor didn't make this mistake with the LM12. > I lost a bet to Tom concerning how much power output could be > attained. He opined some outrageous amount... I don't remember, maybe > 10-Watts (after all, we're talking 50+ years ago). I said, "No way". > > I lost. I came to work one Monday morning to find that Tom had come > in over the weekend and machined a slab of Aluminum such that a TO-5 > could be force-fit into it. He also drilled a pathway thru the block > with threaded fitting such that he could pipe CO2 thru it. Voila! > 10-Watts (or whatever grotesque amount ;-) So he knew the score, even if you didn't. > >> Paper "Frederiksen_regulator_JSSC(1968).pdf" looks like an LM117 > >> regulator. > > > >Bob Pease seems to think that it was a National Semiconductor home product > > > >http://www.tayloredge.com/reference/Ganssle-Pease/bobpease-bandgap.pdf > > LM117 is the numbering assigned by National... I'm not sure if it was > (initially) made at Motorola Semiconductor Products Division... > Motorola SPD was heading into its final death spiral in that time > frame. Putting the MC1554 into a 1-Watt package would be evidence of that. -- Bill Sloman, Sydney
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| From | Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2017-05-21 08:48 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <9id3icptbnkk6nspguparam17bbdkuhfic@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #461113 |
On Sun, 21 May 2017 05:21:52 -0700 (PDT), bill.sloman@ieee.org wrote:
[incoherent rambling by Slowman snipped]
[remaining coherent content from Slowman follows]...
............................................... >:-}
...Jim Thompson
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"It is not in doing what you like, but in liking what you do that
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| From | bill.sloman@ieee.org |
|---|---|
| Date | 2017-05-21 22:01 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <28288fa5-d4b5-4bea-a6d5-d20e5dba1bff@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #461123 |
On Monday, May 22, 2017 at 1:48:47 AM UTC+10, Jim Thompson wrote: > On Sun, 21 May 2017 05:21:52 -0700 (PDT), bill.sloman@ieee.org wrote: > > [incoherent rambling by Sloman snipped] Rambling incoherent Jim Thopmson can't make any sense of it. > [remaining coherent content from Sloman follows]... > > ............................................... >:-} Jim Thompson is even worse than krw at making sense of stuff that he doesn't want to think about. I've finally got Jim Thompson to identify a integrated circuit that Jim thinks that Tom Frederiksen designed, but Jim can't explain why the MC1554 ended up in a 1-Watt package, when Tom Frederiksen trumped it as a 3-Watt device (and demonstrated that you could get 10W out of it with a sufficiently bizarre heat-sink). -- Bill Sloman
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| From | Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2017-05-20 11:12 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <7k11icdt891fmaj204fq1emelrhn5pd9cr@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #460895 |
On 18 May 2017 19:39:50 -0700, Winfield Hill
<hill@rowland.harvard.edu> wrote:
>Jim Thompson wrote...
>>
>>On 18 May 2017 18:37:15 -0700, Winfield Hill
>><hill@rowland.harvard.edu> wrote:
>>
>>>Jim Thompson wrote...
>>>>
>>>>Winfield Hill wrote:
>>>>> Jim Thompson wrote...
>>>>>> Lasse Langwadt Christensen wrote:
>>>>>>> Winfield Hill wrote:
>>>>>>>> bill.sloman@ieee.org wrote...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> But Jim can't name an integrated circuit he designed. ...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I know he was a specialist in high-power IC design,
>>>>>>>> see his 1968 paper in JSSC, "A Monolithic High-Power
>>>>>>>> Series Voltage Regulator", and with James Solomon,
>>>>>>>> "A High-Performance 3-Watt Monolithic Class-B Power
>>>>>>>> Amplifier"; both were probably Motorola parts. And
>>>>>>>> I have his paper on a Monolithic-Sonar-System. There
>>>>>>>> are likely many more papers if one were to look. He
>>>>>>>> also had patents, which I have stored in my computer.
>>>>
>>>> I'll browse the patents and can probably identify those
>>>> products that are Motorola's.
>>>
>>> I'm curious about the two Motorola papers I quoted.
>>
>> I'm not sure they are Motorola papers. By 1968, they both may
>> have left Motorola... there was some turmoil in those days ;-)
>
> Both papers list Motorola affiliation, that is they were
> Motorola paid-for projects. Check them out on DropBox.
> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/t27kt0zjnxo8a3p/AABRbcodOSEzxyBUaikzic1ia?dl=0
Perusing all of Tom's patents, only the two RExxxxx one's are assigned
to Motorola. Neither of which can I attach a Motorola part number.
...Jim Thompson
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"It is not in doing what you like, but in liking what you do that
is the secret of happiness." -James Barrie
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| From | cameo <cameo@unreal.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2017-05-18 20:06 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <ofln48$dq$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #460507 |
On 5/16/2017 8:01 AM, Jim Thompson wrote: > I just found out... Tom Frederiksen, RIP... > > <http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/mercurynews/obituary.aspx?pid=175736155> > > Tom and I shared a cubicle at Motorola Semiconductor Products Division > during the early to mid-60's. > > ...Jim Thompson > With that name I assume Jim had Swedish family background and I always knew that for some reasons Swedes were great engineers. RIP,
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| From | cameo <cameo@unreal.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2017-05-18 20:20 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <oflnvu$351$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #460896 |
On 5/18/2017 8:06 PM, cameo wrote: > On 5/16/2017 8:01 AM, Jim Thompson wrote: >> I just found out... Tom Frederiksen, RIP... >> >> <http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/mercurynews/obituary.aspx?pid=175736155> >> >> >> Tom and I shared a cubicle at Motorola Semiconductor Products Division >> during the early to mid-60's. >> >> ...Jim Thompson >> > With that name I assume Jim had Swedish family background and I always > knew that for some reasons Swedes were great engineers. RIP, Oops, I mixed up Jim's name with Tom's. Sorry.
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