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Using consumer-grade power amp as Power opamp

Started by"Dave M" <dgminala@mediacombb.net>
First post2017-05-15 09:49 -0500
Last post2017-05-19 06:29 -0700
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  Using consumer-grade power amp as Power opamp "Dave M" <dgminala@mediacombb.net> - 2017-05-15 09:49 -0500
    Re: Using consumer-grade power amp as Power opamp Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> - 2017-05-15 08:09 -0700
      Re: Using consumer-grade power amp as Power opamp "Dave M" <dgminala@mediacombb.net> - 2017-05-16 12:53 -0500
        Re: Using consumer-grade power amp as Power opamp tabbypurr@gmail.com - 2017-05-17 03:04 -0700
        Re: Using consumer-grade power amp as Power opamp mrdarrett@gmail.com - 2017-05-18 09:02 -0700
    Re: Using consumer-grade power amp as Power opamp George Herold <gherold@teachspin.com> - 2017-05-15 08:18 -0700
      Re: Using consumer-grade power amp as Power opamp Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com> - 2017-05-15 17:15 -0700
        Re: Using consumer-grade power amp as Power opamp George Herold <gherold@teachspin.com> - 2017-05-16 05:49 -0700
          Re: Using consumer-grade power amp as Power opamp "Dave M" <dgminala@mediacombb.net> - 2017-05-16 13:00 -0500
    Re: Using consumer-grade power amp as Power opamp Jan Panteltje <pNa0nStpealmtje@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-15 15:57 +0000
    Re: Using consumer-grade power amp as Power opamp John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-05-15 09:02 -0700
    Re: Using consumer-grade power amp as Power opamp Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2017-05-15 09:03 -0700
      Re: Using consumer-grade power amp as Power opamp Jan Panteltje <pNa0nStpealmtje@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-15 16:07 +0000
        Re: Using consumer-grade power amp as Power opamp John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-05-15 09:17 -0700
          Re: Using consumer-grade power amp as Power opamp Jan Panteltje <pNa0nStpealmtje@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-15 16:46 +0000
            Re: Using consumer-grade power amp as Power opamp John Larkin <jjlarkin@highland_snip_technology.com> - 2017-05-15 10:08 -0700
              Re: Using consumer-grade power amp as Power opamp Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2017-05-15 11:13 -0700
              Re: Using consumer-grade power amp as Power opamp Clifford Heath <clifford.heath@gmail.com> - 2017-05-16 10:14 +1000
                Re: Using consumer-grade power amp as Power opamp Jan Panteltje <pNa0nStpealmtje@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-16 08:36 +0000
    Re: Using consumer-grade power amp as Power opamp Tim Wescott <seemywebsite@myfooter.really> - 2017-05-15 12:48 -0500
      Re: Using consumer-grade power amp as Power opamp John Larkin <jjlarkin@highland_snip_technology.com> - 2017-05-15 11:18 -0700
        Re: Using consumer-grade power amp as Power opamp Tim Wescott <tim@seemywebsite.really> - 2017-05-16 10:08 -0500
          Re: Using consumer-grade power amp as Power opamp John Larkin <jjlarkin@highland_snip_technology.com> - 2017-05-16 11:19 -0700
            Re: Using consumer-grade power amp as Power opamp George Herold <gherold@teachspin.com> - 2017-05-16 11:32 -0700
              Re: Using consumer-grade power amp as Power opamp Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> - 2017-05-16 16:02 -0400
                Re: Using consumer-grade power amp as Power opamp John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-05-16 20:19 -0700
    Re: Using consumer-grade power amp as Power opamp Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com> - 2017-05-15 16:59 -0700
      Re: Using consumer-grade power amp as Power opamp Chris Jones <lugnut808@spam.yahoo.com> - 2017-05-16 21:54 +1000
        Re: Using consumer-grade power amp as Power opamp Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com> - 2017-05-16 06:06 -0700
        Re: Using consumer-grade power amp as Power opamp tabbypurr@gmail.com - 2017-05-16 06:57 -0700
    Re: Using consumer-grade power amp as Power opamp Winfield Hill <hill@rowland.harvard.edu> - 2017-05-15 18:42 -0700
      Re: Using consumer-grade power amp as Power opamp krw@notreal.com - 2017-05-15 21:55 -0400
        Re: Using consumer-grade power amp as Power opamp Winfield Hill <hill@rowland.harvard.edu> - 2017-05-16 05:53 -0700
          Re: Using consumer-grade power amp as Power opamp Jan Panteltje <pNa0nStpealmtje@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-16 14:23 +0000
          Re: Using consumer-grade power amp as Power opamp krw@notreal.com - 2017-05-16 12:28 -0400
      Re: Using consumer-grade power amp as Power opamp "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-16 20:27 +0100
        Re: Using consumer-grade power amp as Power opamp Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2017-05-16 16:03 -0700
          Re: Using consumer-grade power amp as Power opamp "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-17 19:34 +0100
            Re: Using consumer-grade power amp as Power opamp Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2017-05-17 11:47 -0700
            Re: Using consumer-grade power amp as Power opamp Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com> - 2017-05-18 04:43 -0700
          Re: Using consumer-grade power amp as Power opamp Jan Panteltje <pNa0nStpealmtje@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-18 16:30 +0000
        Re: Using consumer-grade power amp as Power opamp John Larkin <jjlarkin@highland_snip_technology.com> - 2017-05-16 16:07 -0700
    Re: Using consumer-grade power amp as Power opamp jurb6006@gmail.com - 2017-05-16 00:45 -0700
    Re: Using consumer-grade power amp as Power opamp sroberts6328@gmail.com - 2017-05-18 08:57 -0700
      Re: Using consumer-grade power amp as Power opamp George Herold <gherold@teachspin.com> - 2017-05-19 06:29 -0700

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#460797

FromJan Panteltje <pNa0nStpealmtje@yahoo.com>
Date2017-05-18 16:30 +0000
Message-ID<ofki79$1bca$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#460596
On a sunny day (Tue, 16 May 2017 16:03:40 -0700) it happened Jim Thompson
<To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote in
<p71nhcpc8djf4im089o8js57gsg4q5ksuc@4ax.com>:


>Try listening to class-D crap via hearing aids that are class-D :-(
>
>Class-D is for audiophools.

Class D means interference.

I have this, nice fan at the back, 19 inch rack:
 http://panteltje.com/pub/301734-an-01-ml-MCCRYPT_ENDSTUF_POWER_PA3000_de-en-fr-nl.pdf
  mixed languages.
Good enough for the living room and street level.
Was only 70 Euro at the time...


It now seems there is a force in the EU, now that UK leaves EU, to move back towards French or German
as the main language.
I remember getting French lessons in kindergarten...
History repeats itself.
What the consequences are for 'the world' I don't know,
and about units, we use a comma where the US uses a dot.
12,5 means 12 1/2
that gets tricky if one needs 12,997 gram.

Will it ever be fixed?

1,999 percent distortion ;-)?
Could be useful in marketing...

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#460597

FromJohn Larkin <jjlarkin@highland_snip_technology.com>
Date2017-05-16 16:07 -0700
Message-ID<sg1nhc9358t89p6jbd3am2hk5ptmqt0p83@4ax.com>
In reply to#460566
On Tue, 16 May 2017 20:27:57 +0100, "Kevin Aylward"
<kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> wrote:

>"Winfield Hill"  wrote in message news:ofdleo02voc@drn.newsguy.com...
>
>Dave M wrote...
>> Has anyone used any of the consumer-grade audio power amps ...
>
>>Sorry, but these days "consumer-grade audio power amps"
>> are all class-D.  In general most of these can perform as
>> well as a linear amps.
>
>This, of course, depends on the colour of your ears, and their 
>reflectability...
>

I can make a fortune selling golden ear makeup.


-- 

John Larkin         Highland Technology, Inc
picosecond timing   precision measurement 

jlarkin att highlandtechnology dott com
http://www.highlandtechnology.com

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#460476

Fromjurb6006@gmail.com
Date2017-05-16 00:45 -0700
Message-ID<83181801-a664-4011-9581-0d88b36fbcef@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#460350
I am having a hard time figuring out why anyone would want to do that. Just a simple circuit would be cheaper. Single ended, transistor or whatever fed by an OP AMP or even a comparator of discrete components. 

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#460788

Fromsroberts6328@gmail.com
Date2017-05-18 08:57 -0700
Message-ID<5e1d72a3-2e8e-4942-ad39-aa464f7c77b1@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#460350
On Monday, May 15, 2017 at 10:49:56 AM UTC-4, Dave M wrote:
> Has anyone used any of the consumer-grade audio power amps such as the 
> LM1825, TDA2030, or TDS7297  as a basic DC power opamp?
> Any reason they shouldn't be used as power supply regulators, TEC 
> controllers, etc?
> 
> Dave M

As long as you configure it as a inverting opamp with a gain of 20 or more, LM3886 is one big op-amp that works down to DC.  We have them in some mechanical servo systems that need a DC to 2500 Hz response and +/- 12V of drive. . I'm driving 3 ohm and 7 ohm coils with them, no problems.  Must use a split rail, we use +/- 24 volt rails.  

Steve 

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#460916

FromGeorge Herold <gherold@teachspin.com>
Date2017-05-19 06:29 -0700
Message-ID<3b6e2fe7-bb17-4c87-9c69-cf99c192aa74@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#460788
On Thursday, May 18, 2017 at 11:58:01 AM UTC-4, srober...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Monday, May 15, 2017 at 10:49:56 AM UTC-4, Dave M wrote:
> > Has anyone used any of the consumer-grade audio power amps such as the 
> > LM1825, TDA2030, or TDS7297  as a basic DC power opamp?
> > Any reason they shouldn't be used as power supply regulators, TEC 
> > controllers, etc?
> > 
> > Dave M
> 
> As long as you configure it as a inverting opamp with a gain of 20 or more, LM3886 is one big op-amp that works down to DC.  We have them in some mechanical servo systems that need a DC to 2500 Hz response and +/- 12V of drive. . I'm driving 3 ohm and 7 ohm coils with them, no problems.  Must use a split rail, we use +/- 24 volt rails.  
> 
> Steve

Interesting thanks.  Are those air coils?  How bad is the crossover 
distortion.  I use LM675 for ~10 ohm/1 amp coils.  I tried some 
power opamps (OPA544) and the crossover was worse.  
No (zobel) compensation network.  

George H.

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