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Interesting instrument

Started byJohn S <Sophi.2@invalid.org>
First post2017-03-22 22:26 -0500
Last post2017-03-24 22:56 +0000
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  Interesting instrument John S <Sophi.2@invalid.org> - 2017-03-22 22:26 -0500
    Re: Interesting instrument John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-03-22 21:21 -0700
      Re: Interesting instrument George Herold <gherold@teachspin.com> - 2017-03-23 06:04 -0700
      Re: Interesting instrument Jon Elson <jmelson@wustl.edu> - 2017-03-23 14:26 -0500
        Re: Interesting instrument John S <Sophi.2@invalid.org> - 2017-03-23 15:28 -0500
        Re: Interesting instrument George Herold <gherold@teachspin.com> - 2017-03-23 17:48 -0700
          Re: Interesting instrument pcdhobbs@gmail.com - 2017-03-24 05:04 -0700
            Re: Interesting instrument George Herold <gherold@teachspin.com> - 2017-03-24 05:50 -0700
        Re: Interesting instrument pcdhobbs@gmail.com - 2017-03-24 04:59 -0700
        Re: Interesting instrument Cursitor Doom <curd@notformail.com> - 2017-03-24 22:56 +0000

#453180 — Interesting instrument

FromJohn S <Sophi.2@invalid.org>
Date2017-03-22 22:26 -0500
SubjectInteresting instrument
Message-ID<oavf4s$baa$1@dont-email.me>
But expensive.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmCvrGVtC0M

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#453191

FromJohn Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com>
Date2017-03-22 21:21 -0700
Message-ID<f8j6dcl7172ml0u33tm3iskqdabbaue2f5@4ax.com>
In reply to#453180
On Wed, 22 Mar 2017 22:26:51 -0500, John S <Sophi.2@invalid.org>
wrote:

>But expensive.
>
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmCvrGVtC0M

Please tell me about it. I can't stand to listen to that guy.


-- 

John Larkin         Highland Technology, Inc

jlarkin att highlandtechnology dott com
http://www.highlandtechnology.com

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#453217

FromGeorge Herold <gherold@teachspin.com>
Date2017-03-23 06:04 -0700
Message-ID<c4b8bcfc-279f-4d84-8f99-aa6b9beed381@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#453191
On Thursday, March 23, 2017 at 12:21:15 AM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
> On Wed, 22 Mar 2017 22:26:51 -0500, John S <Sophi.2@invalid.org>
> wrote:
> 
> >But expensive.
> >
> >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmCvrGVtC0M
> 
> Please tell me about it. I can't stand to listen to that guy.

AIM-TTi I-Prober 520 Current Probe Review
There was a link to it in a previous thread about current monitoring.  
5MHz bandwidth flux gate magnetometer.

George H.   
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> John Larkin         Highland Technology, Inc
> 
> jlarkin att highlandtechnology dott com
> http://www.highlandtechnology.com

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#453253

FromJon Elson <jmelson@wustl.edu>
Date2017-03-23 14:26 -0500
Message-ID<3-udnS-r08ynvEnFnZ2dnUU7-NmdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#453191
John Larkin wrote:

> On Wed, 22 Mar 2017 22:26:51 -0500, John S <Sophi.2@invalid.org>
> wrote:
> 
>>But expensive.
>>
>>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmCvrGVtC0M
> 
> Please tell me about it. I can't stand to listen to that guy.
> 
> 
I had EXACTLY the same reaction!

Jon

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#453262

FromJohn S <Sophi.2@invalid.org>
Date2017-03-23 15:28 -0500
Message-ID<ob1av8$b52$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#453253
On 3/23/2017 2:26 PM, Jon Elson wrote:
> John Larkin wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 22 Mar 2017 22:26:51 -0500, John S <Sophi.2@invalid.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> But expensive.
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmCvrGVtC0M
>>
>> Please tell me about it. I can't stand to listen to that guy.
>>
>>
> I had EXACTLY the same reaction!
>
> Jon
>

Sorry, guys. I accidentally posted this when I meant to send it to a 
coworker.

Apologies.

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#453304

FromGeorge Herold <gherold@teachspin.com>
Date2017-03-23 17:48 -0700
Message-ID<acc7bd66-160e-4221-ab10-42a208c7a406@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#453253
On Thursday, March 23, 2017 at 3:25:54 PM UTC-4, Jon Elson wrote:
> John Larkin wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, 22 Mar 2017 22:26:51 -0500, John S <Sophi.2@invalid.org>
> > wrote:
> > 
> >>But expensive.
> >>
> >>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmCvrGVtC0M
> > 
> > Please tell me about it. I can't stand to listen to that guy.
> > 
> > 
> I had EXACTLY the same reaction!
> 
> Jon

I had it playing in the background as I tested an instrument.
I looked fun, ~mA to A resolution, calibration for trace width looked
tweaky... But think of it as a magnetic field sensor and you are fine. 

For low fields is a flux gate more sensitive than GMR?  

George H.  

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#453372

Frompcdhobbs@gmail.com
Date2017-03-24 05:04 -0700
Message-ID<22428414-1da7-4dbb-bf8a-a272231a9dcc@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#453304
>For low fields is a flux gate more sensitive than GMR?   

Flux gates are limited by Barkhausen noise, iirc--the domains kind of rattle around as they switch. 

GMR is a huge effect, so I expect it's quieter but maybe less linear than a flux gate. (Not that I've built either one myself.) 

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

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#453376

FromGeorge Herold <gherold@teachspin.com>
Date2017-03-24 05:50 -0700
Message-ID<d242deb9-ea83-4e89-b0d5-d947971ec9e5@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#453372
On Friday, March 24, 2017 at 8:04:44 AM UTC-4, pcdh...@gmail.com wrote:
> >For low fields is a flux gate more sensitive than GMR?   
> 
> Flux gates are limited by Barkhausen noise, iirc--the domains kind of rattle around as they switch. 
> 
> GMR is a huge effect, so I expect it's quieter but maybe less linear than a flux gate. (Not that I've built either one myself.) 
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Phil Hobbs

I made a flux gate... well helped a colleague get his to work better.  
I know little about GMR.  
I only looked at pictures here, (from 1999)
https://www.nve.com/Downloads/lowfield.pdf
GMR looks to have a fair amount of hysterisis, which would make it not so great 
for small field AC stuff.  

George H. 

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#453368

Frompcdhobbs@gmail.com
Date2017-03-24 04:59 -0700
Message-ID<d2ca56e3-4827-404c-b74b-3936b8127086@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#453253
>> Please tell me about it. I can't stand to listen to that guy. 
>>  
>I had EXACTLY the same reaction! 

Yup. I watch the occasional teardown video of his, mostly to learn more about good/bad construction practices, but there's no way I could take a steady diet of that voice. The editorializing about things he knows nothing about gets a bit old too.  

Jones seems to work pretty hard at it, though, and kudos to him for all his tutorials and explanations for beginners. 

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

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#453465

FromCursitor Doom <curd@notformail.com>
Date2017-03-24 22:56 +0000
Message-ID<ob486f$rev$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#453253
On Thu, 23 Mar 2017 14:26:54 -0500, Jon Elson wrote:

> John Larkin wrote:
 
>> Please tell me about it. I can't stand to listen to that guy.
>> 
>> 
> I had EXACTLY the same reaction!

Same here. It's a shame as this chap does make some really interesting 
vids.

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