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What Am I Going to Do With All This Iron ?

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  What Am I Going to Do With All This Iron ? jurb6006@gmail.com - 2017-03-19 08:06 -0700
    Re: What Am I Going to Do With All This Iron ? Cursitor Doom <curd@notformail.com> - 2017-03-19 15:14 +0000
      Re: What Am I Going to Do With All This Iron ? Robert Baer <robertbaer@localnet.com> - 2017-03-19 20:03 -0800
        Re: What Am I Going to Do With All This Iron ? Cursitor Doom <curd@notformail.com> - 2017-03-20 23:15 +0000
      Re: What Am I Going to Do With All This Iron ? Robert Baer <robertbaer@localnet.com> - 2017-03-19 20:22 -0800
    Re: What Am I Going to Do With All This Iron ? "dcaster@krl.org" <dcaster@krl.org> - 2017-03-19 08:33 -0700
      Re: What Am I Going to Do With All This Iron ? Cursitor Doom <curd@notformail.com> - 2017-03-19 15:57 +0000
        Re: What Am I Going to Do With All This Iron ? Bill Martin <wwm@wwmartin.net> - 2017-03-19 09:23 -0700
          Re: What Am I Going to Do With All This Iron ? jurb6006@gmail.com - 2017-03-19 12:48 -0700
    Re: What Am I Going to Do With All This Iron ? Winfield Hill <hill@rowland.harvard.edu> - 2017-03-19 09:22 -0700
    Re: What Am I Going to Do With All This Iron ? dagmargoodboat@yahoo.com - 2017-03-19 10:08 -0700
      Re: What Am I Going to Do With All This Iron ? jurb6006@gmail.com - 2017-03-19 12:43 -0700
      Re: What Am I Going to Do With All This Iron ? Cursitor Doom <curd@notformail.com> - 2017-03-19 22:46 +0000
    Re: What Am I Going to Do With All This Iron ? tabbypurr@gmail.com - 2017-03-20 03:51 -0700
      Re: What Am I Going to Do With All This Iron ? Cursitor Doom <curd@notformail.com> - 2017-03-20 23:16 +0000

#452575 — What Am I Going to Do With All This Iron ?

Fromjurb6006@gmail.com
Date2017-03-19 08:06 -0700
SubjectWhat Am I Going to Do With All This Iron ?
Message-ID<db197740-1cd9-40f2-ab12-bdad0373ace5@googlegroups.com>
I have these amps, they are fried. Well one is not but it has corroded circuit boards so I am not even going to try to fix it. 

But they have some heavy duty transformers and power supplies. What can be done ? Should I figure out a switching regulator and make a power supply ? I have one I use for a power supply but it is unregulated so I use a variac with it. I used it to power up an old field radio from WW2 or something my buddy brought over, needed 90 volts. Across the rails it puts out about 120 but I used the variac to cut it down to the voltage the radio called for for the B battery. I forget where we got the filament voltage though. 

Anyway, I just don't want to see all this in the landfill. The landfills are getting full here. 

Anyone need like 140 volts at 8 amps for a project ? Don't put that into one of those hydrogen separators, it is likely to blow up in your face. Well, unless you build a big one. 

Except for audio, I don't see the need for that much voltage and current. What else can use it ? It would be a dandy to watch it charge your cellphone. You'll really know what it's made of. 

I can build regulators for it, but even to troubleshoot an amp all you need is the old dim bulb tester, and possibly a variac. Use its own power supply. If its own power supply is fried then fix it. 

I really hate to take this stuff to the scrapyard. 

Is there ANYTHING out there that needs that type of power supply ? Or should I just scrap it all ? And they don't give all that much, I wonder if it would be worth the gas to get there. I might just throw it out. I really would rather not waste it like that.

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#452576

FromCursitor Doom <curd@notformail.com>
Date2017-03-19 15:14 +0000
Message-ID<oam79j$oce$13@dont-email.me>
In reply to#452575
On Sun, 19 Mar 2017 08:06:53 -0700, jurb6006 wrote:

> I really hate to take this stuff to the scrapyard.

So do I.
> 
> Is there ANYTHING out there that needs that type of power supply ? Or
> should I just scrap it all ? And they don't give all that much, I wonder
> if it would be worth the gas to get there. I might just throw it out. I
> really would rather not waste it like that.

The way I see it is, if the trannies are high quality ones made in 
England or whatever, *don't* scrap 'em. It would be a crime to. On the 
other hand, if they come from China, just dump them without a second 
thought. 
I have a pile of old English trannies here. They're just *fabulous* 
quality I can't adequately describe it here. I can't bear to scrap them 
so they'll probably just die with me.

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#452686

FromRobert Baer <robertbaer@localnet.com>
Date2017-03-19 20:03 -0800
Message-ID<AwIzA.36964$7b1.2136@fx30.iad>
In reply to#452576
Cursitor Doom wrote:
> On Sun, 19 Mar 2017 08:06:53 -0700, jurb6006 wrote:
>
>> I really hate to take this stuff to the scrapyard.
>
> So do I.
>>
>> Is there ANYTHING out there that needs that type of power supply ? Or
>> should I just scrap it all ? And they don't give all that much, I wonder
>> if it would be worth the gas to get there. I might just throw it out. I
>> really would rather not waste it like that.
>
> The way I see it is, if the trannies are high quality ones made in
> England or whatever, *don't* scrap 'em. It would be a crime to. On the
> other hand, if they come from China, just dump them without a second
> thought.
> I have a pile of old English trannies here. They're just *fabulous*
> quality I can't adequately describe it here. I can't bear to scrap them
> so they'll probably just die with me.
>
  What about for audio work: power amp to speaker?


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#452800

FromCursitor Doom <curd@notformail.com>
Date2017-03-20 23:15 +0000
Message-ID<oapnrf$2oi$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#452686
On Sun, 19 Mar 2017 20:03:45 -0800, Robert Baer wrote:

>   What about for audio work: power amp to speaker?

Does anyone actually do that any more these days?
These are mostly HV types suitable for valve (toob) PAs. Like 240V 
primaries; 4000V secondaries at 100mA or whatever. So just the job for 
QRO-obsessed hams. :-)

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#452688

FromRobert Baer <robertbaer@localnet.com>
Date2017-03-19 20:22 -0800
Message-ID<bOIzA.59310$u84.12103@fx35.iad>
In reply to#452576
Cursitor Doom wrote:
> On Sun, 19 Mar 2017 08:06:53 -0700, jurb6006 wrote:
>
>> I really hate to take this stuff to the scrapyard.
>
> So do I.
>>
>> Is there ANYTHING out there that needs that type of power supply ? Or
>> should I just scrap it all ? And they don't give all that much, I wonder
>> if it would be worth the gas to get there. I might just throw it out. I
>> really would rather not waste it like that.
>
> The way I see it is, if the trannies are high quality ones made in
> England or whatever, *don't* scrap 'em. It would be a crime to. On the
> other hand, if they come from China, just dump them without a second
> thought.
> I have a pile of old English trannies here. They're just *fabulous*
> quality I can't adequately describe it here. I can't bear to scrap them
> so they'll probably just die with me.
>
   For audio work: matching xfmr from power stage to speakers.


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#452582

From"dcaster@krl.org" <dcaster@krl.org>
Date2017-03-19 08:33 -0700
Message-ID<69145532-4161-4796-b022-f05ec9096dcd@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#452575
On Sunday, March 19, 2017 at 11:07:03 AM UTC-4, jurb...@gmail.com wrote:

> But they have some heavy duty transformers and power supplies. What can be done ? 
> 
> Anyone need like 140 volts at 8 amps for a project ? Don't put that into one of those hydrogen separators, it is likely to blow up in your face. Well, unless you build a big one. 
> 


> Is there ANYTHING out there that needs that type of power supply ? Or should I just scrap it all ? And they don't give all that much, I wonder if it would be worth the gas to get there. I might just throw it out. I really would rather not waste it like that.  

You might give people an idea of where you are located.  

                                   Dan

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#452589

FromCursitor Doom <curd@notformail.com>
Date2017-03-19 15:57 +0000
Message-ID<oam9ol$oce$15@dont-email.me>
In reply to#452582
On Sun, 19 Mar 2017 08:33:42 -0700, dcaster@krl.org wrote:

> You might give people an idea of where you are located.
> 
>                                    Dan

He's in Ohio.

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#452597

FromBill Martin <wwm@wwmartin.net>
Date2017-03-19 09:23 -0700
Message-ID<oamb56$ago$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#452589
On 03/19/2017 08:57 AM, Cursitor Doom wrote:
> On Sun, 19 Mar 2017 08:33:42 -0700, dcaster@krl.org wrote:
>
>> You might give people an idea of where you are located.
>>
>>                                    Dan
>
> He's in Ohio.
>
Well, no problem then...it's the "rust belt"...self curing problem for 
excess iron!

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#452614

Fromjurb6006@gmail.com
Date2017-03-19 12:48 -0700
Message-ID<c0b15030-a1ac-4cb3-8e18-58f8d444d37d@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#452597
On Sunday, March 19, 2017 at 11:23:51 AM UTC-5, Bill Martin wrote:
> On 03/19/2017 08:57 AM, Cursitor Doom wrote:
> > On Sun, 19 Mar 2017 08:33:42 -0700, dcaster wrote:
> >
> >> You might give people an idea of where you are located.
> >>
> >>                                    Dan
> >
> > He's in Ohio.
> >
> Well, no problem then...it's the "rust belt"...self curing problem for 
> excess iron!

We wish. Damn thing will just rust on the outside and not completely disintegrate which leaves us with a bunch of bulk that is useless. If you had a ten pound transformer (many of mine are alot heavier than that) after it rusts you got ten pounds of scrap metal. Saw the copper off and be done with it once the insulation breaks down.

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#452595

FromWinfield Hill <hill@rowland.harvard.edu>
Date2017-03-19 09:22 -0700
Message-ID<oamb7f01idm@drn.newsguy.com>
In reply to#452575
jurb6006@gmail.com wrote...
>
> Is there ANYTHING out there that needs ...

 We use lots of kW supplies at the Institute,
 in various projects, various voltage ranges.
 To keep size and weight down, we use Xantrex
 / Sorenson XFR, XHR types.  And 300-watt HPD
 types.  To keep the cost down, we use eBay.


-- 
 Thanks,
    - Win

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#452602

Fromdagmargoodboat@yahoo.com
Date2017-03-19 10:08 -0700
Message-ID<65f6deea-a00e-4fd1-a8cb-31f003630201@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#452575
On Sunday, March 19, 2017 at 11:07:03 AM UTC-4, jurb...@gmail.com wrote:
> I have these amps, they are fried. Well one is not but it has corroded circuit boards so I am not even going to try to fix it. 
> 
> But they have some heavy duty transformers and power supplies. What can be done ? Should I figure out a switching regulator and make a power supply ? I have one I use for a power supply but it is unregulated so I use a variac with it. I used it to power up an old field radio from WW2 or something my buddy brought over, needed 90 volts. Across the rails it puts out about 120 but I used the variac to cut it down to the voltage the radio called for for the B battery. I forget where we got the filament voltage though. 
> 
> Anyway, I just don't want to see all this in the landfill. The landfills are getting full here. 
> 
> Anyone need like 140 volts at 8 amps for a project ? Don't put that into one of those hydrogen separators, it is likely to blow up in your face. Well, unless you build a big one. 
> 
> Except for audio, I don't see the need for that much voltage and current. What else can use it ? It would be a dandy to watch it charge your cellphone. You'll really know what it's made of. 
> 
> I can build regulators for it, but even to troubleshoot an amp all you need is the old dim bulb tester, and possibly a variac. Use its own power supply. If its own power supply is fried then fix it. 
> 
> I really hate to take this stuff to the scrapyard. 
> 
> Is there ANYTHING out there that needs that type of power supply ? Or should I just scrap it all ? And they don't give all that much, I wonder if it would be worth the gas to get there. I might just throw it out. I really would rather not waste it like that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McKbU9Bu_30   ???

Cheers,
James Arthur

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#452613

Fromjurb6006@gmail.com
Date2017-03-19 12:43 -0700
Message-ID<89ddcdfa-4828-4f94-8864-1e35d2708ed8@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#452602
On Sunday, March 19, 2017 at 12:08:30 PM UTC-5, dagmarg...@yahoo.com wrote:
> On Sunday, March 19, 2017 at 11:07:03 AM UTC-4, jurb...@gmail.com wrote:
> > I have these amps, they are fried. Well one is not but it has corroded circuit boards so I am not even going to try to fix it. 
> > 
> > But they have some heavy duty transformers and power supplies. What can be done ? Should I figure out a switching regulator and make a power supply ? I have one I use for a power supply but it is unregulated so I use a variac with it. I used it to power up an old field radio from WW2 or something my buddy brought over, needed 90 volts. Across the rails it puts out about 120 but I used the variac to cut it down to the voltage the radio called for for the B battery. I forget where we got the filament voltage though. 
> > 
> > Anyway, I just don't want to see all this in the landfill. The landfills are getting full here. 
> > 
> > Anyone need like 140 volts at 8 amps for a project ? Don't put that into one of those hydrogen separators, it is likely to blow up in your face. Well, unless you build a big one. 
> > 
> > Except for audio, I don't see the need for that much voltage and current. What else can use it ? It would be a dandy to watch it charge your cellphone. You'll really know what it's made of. 
> > 
> > I can build regulators for it, but even to troubleshoot an amp all you need is the old dim bulb tester, and possibly a variac. Use its own power supply. If its own power supply is fried then fix it. 
> > 
> > I really hate to take this stuff to the scrapyard. 
> > 
> > Is there ANYTHING out there that needs that type of power supply ? Or should I just scrap it all ? And they don't give all that much, I wonder if it would be worth the gas to get there. I might just throw it out. I really would rather not waste it like that.
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McKbU9Bu_30   ???
> 
> Cheers,
> James Arthur

Sorry, I am not doing that.

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#452628

FromCursitor Doom <curd@notformail.com>
Date2017-03-19 22:46 +0000
Message-ID<oan1nd$oce$23@dont-email.me>
In reply to#452602
On Sun, 19 Mar 2017 10:08:22 -0700, dagmargoodboat wrote:

> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McKbU9Bu_30   ???

An indispensable, must-have gadget for anyone who needs to weld washers 
to coat-hangers.

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#452700

Fromtabbypurr@gmail.com
Date2017-03-20 03:51 -0700
Message-ID<197860f7-1376-4ba0-ae03-af789870ebf0@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#452575
On Sunday, 19 March 2017 15:07:03 UTC, jurb...@gmail.com  wrote:
> I have these amps, they are fried. Well one is not but it has corroded circuit boards so I am not even going to try to fix it. 
> 
> But they have some heavy duty transformers and power supplies. What can be done ? Should I figure out a switching regulator and make a power supply ? I have one I use for a power supply but it is unregulated so I use a variac with it. I used it to power up an old field radio from WW2 or something my buddy brought over, needed 90 volts. Across the rails it puts out about 120 but I used the variac to cut it down to the voltage the radio called for for the B battery. I forget where we got the filament voltage though. 
> 
> Anyway, I just don't want to see all this in the landfill. The landfills are getting full here. 
> 
> Anyone need like 140 volts at 8 amps for a project ? Don't put that into one of those hydrogen separators, it is likely to blow up in your face. Well, unless you build a big one. 
> 
> Except for audio, I don't see the need for that much voltage and current. What else can use it ? It would be a dandy to watch it charge your cellphone. You'll really know what it's made of. 
> 
> I can build regulators for it, but even to troubleshoot an amp all you need is the old dim bulb tester, and possibly a variac. Use its own power supply. If its own power supply is fried then fix it. 
> 
> I really hate to take this stuff to the scrapyard. 
> 
> Is there ANYTHING out there that needs that type of power supply ? Or should I just scrap it all ? And they don't give all that much, I wonder if it would be worth the gas to get there. I might just throw it out. I really would rather not waste it like that.

When all else fails, offer it to whoever can come up with the best use for it.


NT

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#452801

FromCursitor Doom <curd@notformail.com>
Date2017-03-20 23:16 +0000
Message-ID<oapnt0$2oi$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#452700
On Mon, 20 Mar 2017 03:51:14 -0700, tabbypurr wrote:

> When all else fails, offer it to whoever can come up with the best use
> for it.

Door stop?

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