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OT: Berkeley

Started byJim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com>
First post2017-02-02 08:51 -0700
Last post2017-02-05 08:55 -0800
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  OT: Berkeley Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2017-02-02 08:51 -0700
    Re: OT: Berkeley George Herold <gherold@teachspin.com> - 2017-02-02 08:50 -0800
      Re: OT: Berkeley Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> - 2017-02-02 11:52 -0500
        Re: OT: Berkeley John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-02-02 09:09 -0800
          Re: OT: Berkeley Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> - 2017-02-02 12:35 -0500
            Re: OT: Berkeley dagmargoodboat@yahoo.com - 2017-02-03 07:59 -0800
          Re: OT: Berkeley George Herold <gherold@teachspin.com> - 2017-02-02 10:21 -0800
            Re: OT: Berkeley krw@notreal.com - 2017-02-02 13:44 -0500
              Re: OT: Berkeley bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> - 2017-02-02 13:48 -0500
                Re: OT: Berkeley krw@notreal.com - 2017-02-02 20:32 -0500
                  Re: OT: Berkeley "tom" <tmiller11147@verizon.net> - 2017-02-02 20:41 -0500
                    Re: OT: Berkeley bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> - 2017-02-02 20:44 -0500
                      Re: OT: Berkeley mixed nuts <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> - 2017-02-07 11:22 -0500
                    Re: OT: Berkeley bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-02-02 17:54 -0800
            Re: OT: Berkeley bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> - 2017-02-02 13:45 -0500
            Re: OT: Berkeley John Larkin <jjlarkinxyxy@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-02-02 12:09 -0800
              Re: OT: Berkeley bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> - 2017-02-02 16:58 -0500
              Re: OT: Berkeley bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> - 2017-02-02 17:01 -0500
              Re: OT: Berkeley Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2017-02-03 00:26 +0000
                Re: OT: Berkeley John Larkin <jjlarkinxyxy@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-02-02 17:33 -0800
                  Re: OT: Berkeley bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-02-02 19:35 -0800
                  Re: OT: Berkeley Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2017-02-03 09:36 +0000
                    Re: OT: Berkeley John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-02-03 07:44 -0800
                      Re: OT: Berkeley bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-02-03 08:54 -0800
                        Re: OT: Berkeley bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> - 2017-02-03 17:08 -0500
                      Re: OT: Berkeley Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2017-02-03 17:12 +0000
                      Re: OT: Berkeley bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> - 2017-02-03 17:12 -0500
                        Re: OT: Berkeley John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-02-03 19:11 -0800
                          Re: OT: Berkeley bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-02-03 21:11 -0800
                    Re: OT: Berkeley dagmargoodboat@yahoo.com - 2017-02-05 07:45 -0800
                  Re: OT: Berkeley bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> - 2017-02-03 16:06 -0500
                    Re: OT: Berkeley John Larkin <jjlarkinxyxy@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-02-03 13:20 -0800
                      Re: OT: Berkeley bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> - 2017-02-03 16:43 -0500
                        Re: OT: Berkeley John Larkin <jjlarkinxyxy@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-02-03 13:51 -0800
                          Re: OT: Berkeley bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> - 2017-02-03 16:55 -0500
                            Re: OT: Berkeley John Larkin <jjlarkinxyxy@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-02-03 15:36 -0800
                              Re: OT: Berkeley bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> - 2017-02-04 03:35 -0500
                                Re: OT: Berkeley bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> - 2017-02-04 03:45 -0500
                                Re: OT: Berkeley John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-02-04 08:11 -0800
                                  Re: OT: Berkeley bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> - 2017-02-04 12:15 -0500
                                    Re: OT: Berkeley John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-02-04 09:49 -0800
                                      Re: OT: Berkeley bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> - 2017-02-04 16:24 -0500
                                        Re: OT: Berkeley John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-02-04 13:49 -0800
                                Re: OT: Berkeley dagmargoodboat@yahoo.com - 2017-02-05 09:59 -0800
                                  Re: OT: Berkeley John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-02-05 10:41 -0800
                                    Re: OT: Berkeley dagmargoodboat@yahoo.com - 2017-02-06 15:03 -0800
                                  Re: OT: Berkeley krw@notreal.com - 2017-02-05 18:06 -0500
                                    Re: OT: Berkeley dagmargoodboat@yahoo.com - 2017-02-06 15:10 -0800
                                  Re: OT: Berkeley bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-02-05 18:06 -0800
                          Re: OT: Berkeley bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-02-03 15:59 -0800
                  Re: OT: Berkeley bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> - 2017-02-03 16:16 -0500
                    Re: OT: Berkeley John Larkin <jjlarkinxyxy@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-02-03 13:43 -0800
                      Re: OT: Berkeley bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> - 2017-02-03 16:47 -0500
                        Re: OT: Berkeley bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> - 2017-02-03 16:52 -0500
                          Re: OT: Berkeley John Larkin <jjlarkinxyxy@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-02-03 15:40 -0800
                            Re: OT: Berkeley bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> - 2017-02-04 04:02 -0500
                              Re: OT: Berkeley John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-02-04 08:19 -0800
                                Re: OT: Berkeley bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> - 2017-02-04 12:20 -0500
                                Re: OT: Berkeley bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-02-04 17:29 -0800
                      Re: OT: Berkeley bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-02-03 15:27 -0800
                      Re: OT: Berkeley Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2017-02-04 08:14 +0000
                      Re: OT: Berkeley Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2017-02-04 09:01 +0000
                        Re: OT: Berkeley bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> - 2017-02-04 04:09 -0500
                Re: OT: Berkeley krw@notreal.com - 2017-02-02 20:39 -0500
              Re: OT: Berkeley George Herold <gherold@teachspin.com> - 2017-02-02 17:12 -0800
                Re: OT: Berkeley John Larkin <jjlarkinxyxy@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-02-02 17:27 -0800
                Re: OT: Berkeley krw@notreal.com - 2017-02-02 20:42 -0500
                Re: OT: Berkeley dagmargoodboat@yahoo.com - 2017-02-03 10:09 -0800
                  Re: OT: Berkeley John Larkin <jjlarkinxyxy@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-02-03 10:35 -0800
                    Re: OT: Berkeley John Robertson <spam@flippers.com> - 2017-02-03 13:36 -0800
                      Re: OT: Berkeley "Tom Del Rosso" <fizzbintuesday@that-google-mail-domain.com> - 2017-02-04 10:18 -0500
                        Re: OT: Berkeley John Robertson <spam@flippers.com> - 2017-02-04 09:50 -0800
                        Re: OT: Berkeley bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-02-04 17:21 -0800
                    Re: OT: Berkeley krw@notreal.com - 2017-02-03 20:04 -0500
                      Re: OT: Berkeley dagmargoodboat@yahoo.com - 2017-02-05 09:48 -0800
                        Re: OT: Berkeley John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-02-05 10:44 -0800
                          Re: OT: Berkeley krw@notreal.com - 2017-02-05 18:09 -0500
                    Re: OT: Berkeley "Tom Del Rosso" <fizzbintuesday@that-google-mail-domain.com> - 2017-02-04 10:05 -0500
                  Re: OT: Berkeley George Herold <gherold@teachspin.com> - 2017-02-03 11:10 -0800
                    Re: OT: Berkeley dagmargoodboat@yahoo.com - 2017-02-05 09:36 -0800
                      Re: OT: Berkeley Julian Barnes <jb9889@notformail.com> - 2017-02-05 23:47 +0000
                        Re: OT: Berkeley Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2017-02-05 18:39 -0700
                        Re: OT: Berkeley dagmargoodboat@yahoo.com - 2017-02-06 15:14 -0800
                          Re: OT: Berkeley George Herold <gherold@teachspin.com> - 2017-02-07 06:13 -0800
                      Re: OT: Berkeley bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-02-05 18:04 -0800
                    Re: OT: Berkeley John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-02-05 10:45 -0800
                  Re: OT: Berkeley bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-02-03 15:22 -0800
                Re: OT: Berkeley "Tom Del Rosso" <fizzbintuesday@that-google-mail-domain.com> - 2017-02-04 01:27 -0500
                  Re: OT: Berkeley John Robertson <spam@flippers.com> - 2017-02-04 09:55 -0800
              Re: OT: Berkeley krw@notreal.com - 2017-02-02 20:37 -0500
              Re: OT: Berkeley bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-02-02 18:17 -0800
                Re: OT: Berkeley tomseim2g@gmail.com - 2017-02-03 15:28 -0800
                  Re: OT: Berkeley bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-02-03 16:12 -0800
                  Re: OT: Berkeley Julian Barnes <jb9889@notformail.com> - 2017-02-04 00:54 +0000
                    Re: OT: Berkeley bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-02-03 18:09 -0800
                  Re: OT: Berkeley whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com> - 2017-02-03 17:55 -0800
            Re: OT: Berkeley bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-02-02 17:48 -0800
            Re: OT: Berkeley mrdarrett@gmail.com - 2017-02-03 08:34 -0800
              Re: OT: Berkeley Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> - 2017-02-03 11:35 -0500
          Re: OT: Berkeley bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> - 2017-02-02 13:35 -0500
            Re: OT: Berkeley bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> - 2017-02-02 13:41 -0500
          Re: OT: Berkeley bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-02-02 17:44 -0800
            Re: OT: Berkeley Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2017-02-03 09:40 +0000
              Re: OT: Berkeley bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-02-03 03:57 -0800
                Re: OT: Berkeley Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2017-02-03 17:17 +0000
                  Re: OT: Berkeley dagmargoodboat@yahoo.com - 2017-02-05 08:40 -0800
                    Re: OT: Berkeley bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-02-05 17:30 -0800
        Re: OT: Berkeley George Herold <gherold@teachspin.com> - 2017-02-02 10:14 -0800
          Re: OT: Berkeley krw@notreal.com - 2017-02-02 13:45 -0500
            Re: OT: Berkeley Spehro Pefhany <speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> - 2017-02-02 21:16 -0500
              Re: OT: Berkeley George Herold <gherold@teachspin.com> - 2017-02-03 06:20 -0800
                Re: OT: Berkeley Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2017-02-03 07:53 -0700
                  Re: OT: Berkeley krw@notreal.com - 2017-02-03 20:06 -0500
                Re: OT: Berkeley Spehro Pefhany <speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> - 2017-02-04 10:40 -0500
                  Re: OT: Berkeley John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-02-04 08:22 -0800
                  Re: OT: Berkeley George Herold <gherold@teachspin.com> - 2017-02-06 06:50 -0800
                    Re: OT: Berkeley bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-02-06 07:50 -0800
                    Re: OT: Berkeley John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-02-06 08:37 -0800
                      Re: OT: Berkeley George Herold <gherold@teachspin.com> - 2017-02-06 10:40 -0800
                        Re: OT: Berkeley John Larkin <jjlarkinxyxy@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-02-06 12:41 -0800
                          Re: OT: Berkeley George Herold <gherold@teachspin.com> - 2017-02-06 13:22 -0800
                            Re: OT: Berkeley Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2017-02-06 14:53 -0700
                              Re: OT: Berkeley George Herold <gherold@teachspin.com> - 2017-02-07 06:44 -0800
                                Re: OT: Berkeley John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-02-07 08:44 -0800
                                  Re: OT: Berkeley krw@notreal.com - 2017-02-07 12:21 -0500
                                    Re: OT: Berkeley John Larkin <jjlarkinxyxy@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-02-07 11:05 -0800
                                      Re: OT: Berkeley krw@notreal.com - 2017-02-07 20:24 -0500
                                        Re: OT: Berkeley bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-02-07 18:06 -0800
                                  Re: OT: Berkeley Lasse Langwadt Christensen <langwadt@fonz.dk> - 2017-02-07 09:29 -0800
                                    Re: OT: Berkeley John Larkin <jjlarkinxyxy@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-02-07 11:02 -0800
                          Re: OT: Berkeley bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-02-06 17:26 -0800
                      Re: OT: Berkeley bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-02-06 17:20 -0800
                    Re: OT: Berkeley Julian Barnes <jb9889@notformail.com> - 2017-02-07 23:27 +0000
                      Re: OT: Berkeley Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2017-02-07 16:48 -0700
                        Re: OT: Berkeley bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-02-07 16:45 -0800
                      Re: OT: Berkeley bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-02-07 16:42 -0800
          Re: OT: Berkeley Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> - 2017-02-02 14:45 -0500
            Re: OT: Berkeley George Herold <gherold@teachspin.com> - 2017-02-02 16:54 -0800
              Re: OT: Berkeley bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> - 2017-02-03 12:34 -0500
              Re: OT: Berkeley dagmargoodboat@yahoo.com - 2017-02-03 09:48 -0800
                Re: OT: Berkeley Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2017-02-03 17:56 +0000
                  Re: OT: Berkeley dagmargoodboat@yahoo.com - 2017-02-05 08:51 -0800
                    Re: OT: Berkeley Cursitor Doom <curd@notformail.com> - 2017-02-05 18:42 +0000
                      Re: OT: Berkeley bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-02-05 18:13 -0800
                    Re: OT: Berkeley bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-02-05 17:43 -0800
                Re: OT: Berkeley George Herold <gherold@teachspin.com> - 2017-02-03 10:55 -0800
            Re: OT: Berkeley bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> - 2017-02-03 12:14 -0500
            Re: OT: Berkeley bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> - 2017-02-03 12:26 -0500
          Re: OT: Berkeley bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-02-02 18:27 -0800
      Re: OT: Berkeley Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2017-02-02 10:06 -0700
        Re: OT: Berkeley George Herold <gherold@teachspin.com> - 2017-02-02 10:15 -0800
          Re: OT: Berkeley Lasse Langwadt Christensen <langwadt@fonz.dk> - 2017-02-02 10:25 -0800
            Re: OT: Berkeley krw@notreal.com - 2017-02-02 13:47 -0500
          Re: OT: Berkeley John Larkin <jjlarkinxyxy@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-02-02 12:12 -0800
        Re: OT: Berkeley krw@notreal.com - 2017-02-02 13:29 -0500
        Re: OT: Berkeley bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> - 2017-02-02 14:05 -0500
          Re: OT: Berkeley Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2017-02-02 12:07 -0700
            Re: OT: Berkeley bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> - 2017-02-02 14:17 -0500
              Re: OT: Berkeley bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> - 2017-02-02 14:19 -0500
              Re: OT: Berkeley Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2017-02-02 12:29 -0700
            Re: OT: Berkeley John Robertson <spam@flippers.com> - 2017-02-02 11:26 -0800
              Re: OT: Berkeley Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2017-02-02 12:31 -0700
                Re: OT: Berkeley John Robertson <spam@flippers.com> - 2017-02-02 14:40 -0800
                  Re: OT: Berkeley "tom" <tmiller11147@verizon.net> - 2017-02-02 18:37 -0500
                    Re: OT: Berkeley Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2017-02-02 17:08 -0700
    Re: OT: Berkeley bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> - 2017-02-02 13:54 -0500
      Re: OT: Berkeley Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2017-02-02 12:06 -0700
        Re: OT: Berkeley bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> - 2017-02-02 14:30 -0500
          Re: OT: Berkeley bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> - 2017-02-02 14:35 -0500
          Re: OT: Berkeley tomseim2g@gmail.com - 2017-02-02 22:55 -0800
            Re: OT: Berkeley bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> - 2017-02-05 00:58 -0500
              Re: OT: Berkeley krw@notreal.com - 2017-02-05 18:12 -0500
        Re: OT: Berkeley Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> - 2017-02-02 14:55 -0500
          Re: OT: Berkeley bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> - 2017-02-02 16:12 -0500
            Re: OT: Berkeley John Larkin <jjlarkinxyxy@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-02-02 16:10 -0800
              Re: OT: Berkeley bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> - 2017-02-02 20:01 -0500
                Re: OT: Berkeley krw@notreal.com - 2017-02-02 20:58 -0500
                  Re: OT: Berkeley bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> - 2017-02-02 22:54 -0500
                    Re: OT: Berkeley krw@notreal.com - 2017-02-03 20:10 -0500
                      Re: OT: Berkeley bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-02-03 20:53 -0800
                Re: OT: Berkeley John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-02-02 21:06 -0800
                  Re: OT: Berkeley bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-02-02 23:04 -0800
                Re: OT: Berkeley "dcaster@krl.org" <dcaster@krl.org> - 2017-02-03 06:24 -0800
                  Re: OT: Berkeley George Herold <gherold@teachspin.com> - 2017-02-03 06:56 -0800
              Re: OT: Berkeley krw@notreal.com - 2017-02-02 20:51 -0500
                Re: OT: Berkeley John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-02-02 21:12 -0800
                  Re: OT: Berkeley krw@notreal.com - 2017-02-03 20:15 -0500
                    Re: OT: Berkeley John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-02-03 19:16 -0800
                      Re: OT: Berkeley krw@notreal.com - 2017-02-03 23:04 -0500
                    Re: OT: Berkeley bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-02-03 21:07 -0800
                Re: OT: Berkeley bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-02-02 23:17 -0800
              Re: OT: Berkeley bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-02-02 19:05 -0800
            Re: OT: Berkeley George Herold <gherold@teachspin.com> - 2017-02-02 17:17 -0800
              Re: OT: Berkeley bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> - 2017-02-02 20:25 -0500
                Re: OT: Berkeley bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> - 2017-02-02 20:30 -0500
              Re: OT: Berkeley antispam@math.uni.wroc.pl - 2017-02-03 05:22 +0000
                Re: OT: Berkeley bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-02-02 23:23 -0800
                  Re: OT: Berkeley bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> - 2017-02-03 12:02 -0500
                    Re: OT: Berkeley bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> - 2017-02-03 12:05 -0500
          Re: OT: Berkeley bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> - 2017-02-02 16:28 -0500
            Re: OT: Berkeley Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2017-02-02 15:18 -0700
            Re: OT: Berkeley dagmargoodboat@yahoo.com - 2017-02-03 08:30 -0800
          Re: OT: Berkeley Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2017-02-02 15:23 -0700
            Re: OT: Berkeley bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> - 2017-02-02 18:14 -0500
              Re: OT: Berkeley Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2017-02-02 17:05 -0700
                Re: OT: Berkeley bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> - 2017-02-02 19:41 -0500
                Re: OT: Berkeley krw@notreal.com - 2017-02-02 21:00 -0500
          Re: OT: Berkeley George Herold <gherold@teachspin.com> - 2017-02-02 17:01 -0800
            Re: OT: Berkeley bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> - 2017-02-02 20:04 -0500
              Re: OT: Berkeley bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> - 2017-02-02 20:12 -0500
            Re: OT: Berkeley krw@notreal.com - 2017-02-02 21:01 -0500
            Re: OT: Berkeley Clifford Heath <no.spam@please.net> - 2017-02-03 13:03 +1100
              Re: OT: Berkeley Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2017-02-03 09:48 +0000
              Re: OT: Berkeley dagmargoodboat@yahoo.com - 2017-02-05 07:26 -0800
                Re: OT: Berkeley Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2017-02-05 09:25 -0700
                  Re: OT: Berkeley dagmargoodboat@yahoo.com - 2017-02-05 10:30 -0800
                  Re: OT: Berkeley Cursitor Doom <curd@notformail.com> - 2017-02-05 18:51 +0000
                    Re: OT: Berkeley Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2017-02-05 12:12 -0700
                    Re: OT: Berkeley bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-02-05 18:37 -0800
          Re: OT: Berkeley bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-02-02 18:49 -0800
            Re: OT: Berkeley bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> - 2017-02-02 22:38 -0500
              Re: OT: Berkeley "dcaster@krl.org" <dcaster@krl.org> - 2017-02-03 06:50 -0800
                Re: OT: Berkeley bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> - 2017-02-03 11:56 -0500
        Re: OT: Berkeley Spehro Pefhany <speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> - 2017-02-02 21:17 -0500
        Re: OT: Berkeley whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com> - 2017-02-02 19:23 -0800
          Re: OT: Berkeley bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-02-02 20:19 -0800
    Re: OT: Berkeley John S <Sophi.2@invalid.org> - 2017-02-02 23:37 -0600
    Re: OT: Berkeley Lasse Langwadt Christensen <langwadt@fonz.dk> - 2017-02-05 08:55 -0800

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#446465

FromGeorge Herold <gherold@teachspin.com>
Date2017-02-06 13:22 -0800
Message-ID<1344f5c5-aab6-4eb7-8f7b-ff1ee625715f@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#446459
On Monday, February 6, 2017 at 3:41:27 PM UTC-5, John Larkin wrote:
> On Mon, 6 Feb 2017 10:40:58 -0800 (PST), George Herold
> <gherold@teachspin.com> wrote:
> 
> >On Monday, February 6, 2017 at 11:37:35 AM UTC-5, John Larkin wrote:
> >> On Mon, 6 Feb 2017 06:50:01 -0800 (PST), George Herold
> >> <gherold@teachspin.com> wrote:
> >> 
> >> >On Saturday, February 4, 2017 at 10:40:12 AM UTC-5, Spehro Pefhany wrote:
> >> >> On Fri, 3 Feb 2017 06:20:26 -0800 (PST), the renowned George Herold
> >> >> <gherold@teachspin.com> wrote:
> >> >> 
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Hi Spehro, I wanted to ask if you know a good place to get views from the right?  
> >> >> >(The WSJ is OK, but mostly behind a paywall.)  I've looked at the National Review,
> >> >> >which seems OK, but some of their online stuff gets too slanted for me.  
> >> >> 
> >> >> The American Interest. Cato Institute, Lew Rockwell (doesn't seem that
> >> >> active recently), Jacob Hornberger's Future of Freedom Foundation
> >> >> (fff.org) are good from a libertarian pov. National Review, sure. If
> >> >> you want really far out there are popular WN sites that make Breitbart
> >> >> and Alex Jones look tame, but I'm not going to promote them. Very
> >> >> occasionally I'll take a look through a proxy. 
> >> >> 
> >> >> Mark Levin (big fan of Cruz) and others are on CRTV "Liberty's Voice".
> >> >> 
> >> >> https://www.crtv.com/
> >> >> 
> >> >> I bought a suscription for my kid for Xmas- he's a fan of Steven
> >> >> Crowder who is also on there- about $90/year USD- he likes it. 
> >> >> 
> >> >> 
> >> >> >Maybe something from a Canadian perspective? 
> >> >> 
> >> >> 
> >> >> A lot of this stuff is going to the new media. There are a few guys
> >> >> that have some unique viewpoints with youtube channels, and some of
> >> >> them happen to be Canucks. I'm not going to mention them here.  
> >> >> 
> >> >> In legacy media, the closest that I can think of is the National Post
> >> >> newspaper. http://www.nationalpost.com  It's moderately and mainstream
> >> >> right, not alt-right. A lot of big city readers so they have to be
> >> >> socially moderate. They have columists that have some decent range. 
> >> >> 
> >> >> >Re: NPR, I send 'em ~$100 a year so there's that.  
> >> >> 
> >> >> <sipping from my PBS Channel 17 mug> 
> >> >> 
> >> >> >I realize they are mostly a bunch of liberals, but I think they try to 
> >> >> >do a balanced job of reporting.  
> >> >> 
> >> >> The BBC is good. I like ft.com (Financial Times) but it's mostly
> >> >> behind a paywall. The Economist, good and in-depth but a bit
> >> >> expensive. cfr.org (Foreign Affairs) is good if you want informed
> >> >> views clustered around the US State Department official view. Lots of
> >> >> good book reviews. Most would be considered at least somewhat left,
> >> >> but they are financially and otherwise literate. 
> >> >> 
> >> >> For amusement purposes mainly, KCNA news (North Korea) is reachable,
> >> >> but blocked in most places- tunnel through Japan to get there.  
> >> >> 
> >> >> Eg, 
> >> >> 
> >> >> February 3. 2017 Juche 106
> >> >> 
> >> >> National Peace Committee Urges U.S. and S. Korean Puppet Forces to
> >> >> Repent of Their Act of Spawning Nuclear Issue
> >> >> 
> >> >> Pyongyang, February 3 (KCNA) -- A spokesman for the National Peace
> >> >> Committee of Korea released a statement Friday, 59 years since the
> >> >> U.S. introduced nuclear weapons to south Korea and made it public.
> >> >> ....
> >> >> 
> >> >> --sp 
> >> >> 
> >> >> -- 
> >> >> Best regards, 
> >> >> Spehro Pefhany
> >> >> Amazon link for AoE 3rd Edition:            http://tinyurl.com/ntrpwu8
> >> >
> >> >Thanks Spehro, I look at the BBC sometimes too... but I think most 
> >> >conservatives here (SED) would call them liberal.  
> >> >Hmm maybe I should check out some Australian papers?
> >> >
> >> >George H.  
> >> 
> >> BBC is pretty invested in leftist propaganda, which displaces balanced
> >> thinking. It also displaces good writing.
> >> 
> >OK fine, Do you have a source that tries to do balanced thinking?  
> 
> Nowadays, no. Even AP and Reuters and the big news outlets tilt their
> stuff with their perspective. All you can do these days is read the
> left and right-biased articles and make your own judgements.
> 
> Real Clear Politics presents opposing left/right links alternately,
> about as close to balance as you can get these days. The other Real
> Clears (science, tech, health, history) are pretty good links.

OK thanks.  I sometime listen to "left, right and center" on npr, but there's 
not much of a right left. (NPI) Rick Lowry (national review) or David Frum (atlantic)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left,_Right_%26_Center
The last few shows (I listened to) have been almost all Trump bashing. 
And I can barley stand whomever they have on the left.. just whining all the time.

George H.     
> 
> 
> 
> >For me I find that NPR does that on the left.  
> >(But also I'm "mostly liberal", so biased.)   
> >I don't watch much TV, but Fox and MSNBC(and others) seem like news arms 
> >of the two parties.
> 
> Fox is a bit closer to center than, say MSNBC or the New York Times.
> 
> Today's San Francisco Chronicle was tedious juvenile Trump bashing
> front to back. People were justifying the Berkeley arson as a
> reasonable response to facism. Even the business section was full of
> Trump insults. The only relief from political ranting was the
> obituaries.
> 
> I canceled my NYT subscription when they did that. I'd cancel the
> Chron, except that Mo likes the sports section.
> 
> The quality, the writing, of journalism has really declined. I guess
> there is so much demand for content, for so many sources, they have to
> hire hacks.
> 
> Drudge is amazing
> 
> https://www.similarweb.com/blog/the-stats-dont-lie-almost-20-years-later-the-drudge-report-is-still-the-top-news-aggregator
> 
> given that it's nothing but links.
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> John Larkin         Highland Technology, Inc
> picosecond timing   precision measurement 
> 
> jlarkin att highlandtechnology dott com
> http://www.highlandtechnology.com

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#446473

FromJim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com>
Date2017-02-06 14:53 -0700
Message-ID<1nrh9ch8r5j9tbajq04nt05pqi33li86fa@4ax.com>
In reply to#446465
On Mon, 6 Feb 2017 13:22:40 -0800 (PST), George Herold

 <gherold@teachspin.com> wrote:

[snip]

>The last few shows (I listened to) have been almost all Trump bashing. 
>And I can barley stand whomever they have on the left.. just whining all the time.
>
>George H.     
>> 
[snip]

I like barley soup.  Please eat yours, then you can, possibly,
properly spell "barely" >:-}
		
                                        ...Jim Thompson
-- 
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#446639

FromGeorge Herold <gherold@teachspin.com>
Date2017-02-07 06:44 -0800
Message-ID<a04db272-03a7-4d4c-8133-750683ba3df8@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#446473
On Monday, February 6, 2017 at 4:54:07 PM UTC-5, Jim Thompson wrote:
> On Mon, 6 Feb 2017 13:22:40 -0800 (PST), George Herold
> 
>  <gherold@teachspin.com> wrote:
> 
> [snip]
> 
> >The last few shows (I listened to) have been almost all Trump bashing. 
> >And I can barley stand whomever they have on the left.. just whining all the time.
> >
> >George H.     
> >> 
> [snip]
> 
> I like barley soup.  Please eat yours, then you can, possibly,
> properly spell "barely" >:-}

Grin, my spleeing sucks... (And my fingers can get ahead of themselves...)
When I was young I had two separate vocabularies,  One was written and the 
other spoken.  It was always very amusing to find the same word in each 
"vocabulary".  Almost always I was mis-pronouncing (in my head) the word 
in my written vocabulary.  

George H.    
> 		
>                                         ...Jim Thompson
> -- 
> | James E.Thompson                                 |    mens     |
> | Analog Innovations                               |     et      |
> | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems  |    manus    |
> | STV, Queen Creek, AZ 85142    Skype: skypeanalog |             |
> | Voice:(480)460-2350  Fax: Available upon request |  Brass Rat  |
> | E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com |    1962     |
> 
>      Thinking outside the box... producing elegant solutions.

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#446652

FromJohn Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com>
Date2017-02-07 08:44 -0800
Message-ID<gvtj9che4jkdtktff2d3917ns7rvr17lik@4ax.com>
In reply to#446639
On Tue, 7 Feb 2017 06:44:06 -0800 (PST), George Herold
<gherold@teachspin.com> wrote:

>On Monday, February 6, 2017 at 4:54:07 PM UTC-5, Jim Thompson wrote:
>> On Mon, 6 Feb 2017 13:22:40 -0800 (PST), George Herold
>> 
>>  <gherold@teachspin.com> wrote:
>> 
>> [snip]
>> 
>> >The last few shows (I listened to) have been almost all Trump bashing. 
>> >And I can barley stand whomever they have on the left.. just whining all the time.
>> >
>> >George H.     
>> >> 
>> [snip]
>> 
>> I like barley soup.  Please eat yours, then you can, possibly,
>> properly spell "barely" >:-}
>
>Grin, my spleeing sucks... (And my fingers can get ahead of themselves...)
>When I was young I had two separate vocabularies,  One was written and the 
>other spoken.  It was always very amusing to find the same word in each 
>"vocabulary".  Almost always I was mis-pronouncing (in my head) the word 
>in my written vocabulary.  
>

I never learned to type, and my spelling is erratic. Word and
Thunderbird flag my spelling errors, so my official docs are correct.
I don't bother to spell-check casual stuff, like newsgroup posts, and
ignore fatheaded net-cops who harp on spelling. 

Until fairly recently in history, there were no standards for spelling
in English, and people survived. Texting kids don't bother to spell
correctly, and often mis-spell on purpose. We may be swinging back
towards free-form spelling. I sometimes make up words, just for fun.


-- 

John Larkin         Highland Technology, Inc

lunatic fringe electronics 

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#446655

Fromkrw@notreal.com
Date2017-02-07 12:21 -0500
Message-ID<1f0k9c9gp0il6vgu58qul459l8opjumm39@4ax.com>
In reply to#446652
On Tue, 07 Feb 2017 08:44:03 -0800, John Larkin
<jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> wrote:

>On Tue, 7 Feb 2017 06:44:06 -0800 (PST), George Herold
><gherold@teachspin.com> wrote:
>
>>On Monday, February 6, 2017 at 4:54:07 PM UTC-5, Jim Thompson wrote:
>>> On Mon, 6 Feb 2017 13:22:40 -0800 (PST), George Herold
>>> 
>>>  <gherold@teachspin.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> [snip]
>>> 
>>> >The last few shows (I listened to) have been almost all Trump bashing. 
>>> >And I can barley stand whomever they have on the left.. just whining all the time.
>>> >
>>> >George H.     
>>> >> 
>>> [snip]
>>> 
>>> I like barley soup.  Please eat yours, then you can, possibly,
>>> properly spell "barely" >:-}
>>
>>Grin, my spleeing sucks... (And my fingers can get ahead of themselves...)
>>When I was young I had two separate vocabularies,  One was written and the 
>>other spoken.  It was always very amusing to find the same word in each 
>>"vocabulary".  Almost always I was mis-pronouncing (in my head) the word 
>>in my written vocabulary.  
>>
>
>I never learned to type, and my spelling is erratic. Word and
>Thunderbird flag my spelling errors, so my official docs are correct.
>I don't bother to spell-check casual stuff, like newsgroup posts, and
>ignore fatheaded net-cops who harp on spelling. 
>
>Until fairly recently in history, there were no standards for spelling
>in English, and people survived. Texting kids don't bother to spell
>correctly, and often mis-spell on purpose. We may be swinging back
>towards free-form spelling. I sometimes make up words, just for fun.

Millenials aren't much interested in communication but that doesn't
make communication unimportant.

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#446669

FromJohn Larkin <jjlarkinxyxy@highlandtechnology.com>
Date2017-02-07 11:05 -0800
Message-ID<2f6k9ch06jobbj3p0k4bhog07ingvn3069@4ax.com>
In reply to#446655
On Tue, 07 Feb 2017 12:21:22 -0500, krw@notreal.com wrote:

>On Tue, 07 Feb 2017 08:44:03 -0800, John Larkin
><jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 7 Feb 2017 06:44:06 -0800 (PST), George Herold
>><gherold@teachspin.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Monday, February 6, 2017 at 4:54:07 PM UTC-5, Jim Thompson wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 6 Feb 2017 13:22:40 -0800 (PST), George Herold
>>>> 
>>>>  <gherold@teachspin.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> [snip]
>>>> 
>>>> >The last few shows (I listened to) have been almost all Trump bashing. 
>>>> >And I can barley stand whomever they have on the left.. just whining all the time.
>>>> >
>>>> >George H.     
>>>> >> 
>>>> [snip]
>>>> 
>>>> I like barley soup.  Please eat yours, then you can, possibly,
>>>> properly spell "barely" >:-}
>>>
>>>Grin, my spleeing sucks... (And my fingers can get ahead of themselves...)
>>>When I was young I had two separate vocabularies,  One was written and the 
>>>other spoken.  It was always very amusing to find the same word in each 
>>>"vocabulary".  Almost always I was mis-pronouncing (in my head) the word 
>>>in my written vocabulary.  
>>>
>>
>>I never learned to type, and my spelling is erratic. Word and
>>Thunderbird flag my spelling errors, so my official docs are correct.
>>I don't bother to spell-check casual stuff, like newsgroup posts, and
>>ignore fatheaded net-cops who harp on spelling. 
>>
>>Until fairly recently in history, there were no standards for spelling
>>in English, and people survived. Texting kids don't bother to spell
>>correctly, and often mis-spell on purpose. We may be swinging back
>>towards free-form spelling. I sometimes make up words, just for fun.
>
>Millenials aren't much interested in communication but that doesn't
>make communication unimportant.

But communicating is all they do! Walking, driving, working, they are
always talking or texting or Facebooking. I interviewed one young guy
who texted all through the interview.


-- 

John Larkin         Highland Technology, Inc
picosecond timing   precision measurement 

jlarkin att highlandtechnology dott com
http://www.highlandtechnology.com

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#446717

Fromkrw@notreal.com
Date2017-02-07 20:24 -0500
Message-ID<vnsk9c11vk0hkcttrdfr7l3lb3iaolu878@4ax.com>
In reply to#446669
On Tue, 07 Feb 2017 11:05:42 -0800, John Larkin
<jjlarkinxyxy@highlandtechnology.com> wrote:

>On Tue, 07 Feb 2017 12:21:22 -0500, krw@notreal.com wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 07 Feb 2017 08:44:03 -0800, John Larkin
>><jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Tue, 7 Feb 2017 06:44:06 -0800 (PST), George Herold
>>><gherold@teachspin.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Monday, February 6, 2017 at 4:54:07 PM UTC-5, Jim Thompson wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 6 Feb 2017 13:22:40 -0800 (PST), George Herold
>>>>> 
>>>>>  <gherold@teachspin.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> [snip]
>>>>> 
>>>>> >The last few shows (I listened to) have been almost all Trump bashing. 
>>>>> >And I can barley stand whomever they have on the left.. just whining all the time.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >George H.     
>>>>> >> 
>>>>> [snip]
>>>>> 
>>>>> I like barley soup.  Please eat yours, then you can, possibly,
>>>>> properly spell "barely" >:-}
>>>>
>>>>Grin, my spleeing sucks... (And my fingers can get ahead of themselves...)
>>>>When I was young I had two separate vocabularies,  One was written and the 
>>>>other spoken.  It was always very amusing to find the same word in each 
>>>>"vocabulary".  Almost always I was mis-pronouncing (in my head) the word 
>>>>in my written vocabulary.  
>>>>
>>>
>>>I never learned to type, and my spelling is erratic. Word and
>>>Thunderbird flag my spelling errors, so my official docs are correct.
>>>I don't bother to spell-check casual stuff, like newsgroup posts, and
>>>ignore fatheaded net-cops who harp on spelling. 
>>>
>>>Until fairly recently in history, there were no standards for spelling
>>>in English, and people survived. Texting kids don't bother to spell
>>>correctly, and often mis-spell on purpose. We may be swinging back
>>>towards free-form spelling. I sometimes make up words, just for fun.
>>
>>Millenials aren't much interested in communication but that doesn't
>>make communication unimportant.
>
>But communicating is all they do! Walking, driving, working, they are
>always talking or texting or Facebooking. I interviewed one young guy
>who texted all through the interview.

With each other.  There in their own bubble, just like the leftists
(not much difference, actually).

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#446726

Frombill.sloman@ieee.org
Date2017-02-07 18:06 -0800
Message-ID<79136711-e030-4752-bd8e-119f9e7b42b0@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#446717
On Wednesday, February 8, 2017 at 12:24:34 PM UTC+11, k...@notreal.com wrote:
> On Tue, 07 Feb 2017 11:05:42 -0800, John Larkin
> <jjlarkinxyxy@highlandtechnology.com> wrote:
> 
> >On Tue, 07 Feb 2017 12:21:22 -0500, krw@notreal.com wrote:
> >
> >>On Tue, 07 Feb 2017 08:44:03 -0800, John Larkin
> >><jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>>On Tue, 7 Feb 2017 06:44:06 -0800 (PST), George Herold
> >>><gherold@teachspin.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>On Monday, February 6, 2017 at 4:54:07 PM UTC-5, Jim Thompson wrote:
> >>>>> On Mon, 6 Feb 2017 13:22:40 -0800 (PST), George Herold
> >>>>> 
> >>>>>  <gherold@teachspin.com> wrote:
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> [snip]
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> >The last few shows (I listened to) have been almost all Trump bashing. 
> >>>>> >And I can barley stand whomever they have on the left.. just whining all the time.
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> >George H.     
> >>>>> >> 
> >>>>> [snip]
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> I like barley soup.  Please eat yours, then you can, possibly,
> >>>>> properly spell "barely" >:-}
> >>>>
> >>>>Grin, my spleeing sucks... (And my fingers can get ahead of themselves...)
> >>>>When I was young I had two separate vocabularies,  One was written and the 
> >>>>other spoken.  It was always very amusing to find the same word in each 
> >>>>"vocabulary".  Almost always I was mis-pronouncing (in my head) the word 
> >>>>in my written vocabulary.  
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>I never learned to type, and my spelling is erratic. Word and
> >>>Thunderbird flag my spelling errors, so my official docs are correct.
> >>>I don't bother to spell-check casual stuff, like newsgroup posts, and
> >>>ignore fatheaded net-cops who harp on spelling. 
> >>>
> >>>Until fairly recently in history, there were no standards for spelling
> >>>in English, and people survived. Texting kids don't bother to spell
> >>>correctly, and often mis-spell on purpose. We may be swinging back
> >>>towards free-form spelling. I sometimes make up words, just for fun.
> >>
> >>Millenials aren't much interested in communication but that doesn't
> >>make communication unimportant.
> >
> >But communicating is all they do! Walking, driving, working, they are
> >always talking or texting or Facebooking. I interviewed one young guy
> >who texted all through the interview.
> 
> With each other.  There in their own bubble, just like the leftists
> (not much difference, actually).

Krw hasn't noticed that everybody mainly communicates within their own bubble.

The bubbles over-lap, and - on average - it takes you six links to to get to any bubble anywhere on the planet, if you can persuade a string of people in the intervening bubbles to take you seriously, which isn't easy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six_degrees_of_separation

-- 
Bill Sloman, Sydney

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#446656

FromLasse Langwadt Christensen <langwadt@fonz.dk>
Date2017-02-07 09:29 -0800
Message-ID<973f2dc4-1057-4576-9566-fe8d5aa8adf3@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#446652
Den tirsdag den 7. februar 2017 kl. 17.44.10 UTC+1 skrev John Larkin:
> On Tue, 7 Feb 2017 06:44:06 -0800 (PST), George Herold
> <gherold@teachspin.com> wrote:
> 
> >On Monday, February 6, 2017 at 4:54:07 PM UTC-5, Jim Thompson wrote:
> >> On Mon, 6 Feb 2017 13:22:40 -0800 (PST), George Herold
> >> 
> >>  <gherold@teachspin.com> wrote:
> >> 
> >> [snip]
> >> 
> >> >The last few shows (I listened to) have been almost all Trump bashing. 
> >> >And I can barley stand whomever they have on the left.. just whining all the time.
> >> >
> >> >George H.     
> >> >> 
> >> [snip]
> >> 
> >> I like barley soup.  Please eat yours, then you can, possibly,
> >> properly spell "barely" >:-}
> >
> >Grin, my spleeing sucks... (And my fingers can get ahead of themselves...)
> >When I was young I had two separate vocabularies,  One was written and the 
> >other spoken.  It was always very amusing to find the same word in each 
> >"vocabulary".  Almost always I was mis-pronouncing (in my head) the word 
> >in my written vocabulary.  
> >
> 
> I never learned to type, and my spelling is erratic. Word and
> Thunderbird flag my spelling errors, so my official docs are correct.
> I don't bother to spell-check casual stuff, like newsgroup posts, and
> ignore fatheaded net-cops who harp on spelling. 
> 
> Until fairly recently in history, there were no standards for spelling
> in English, and people survived. Texting kids don't bother to spell
> correctly, and often mis-spell on purpose. We may be swinging back
> towards free-form spelling. I sometimes make up words, just for fun.

it takes more time to read stuff that isn't spelled correctly, because
you have to read the letters and guess rather than recognize the word as 
a "picture" 

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#446668

FromJohn Larkin <jjlarkinxyxy@highlandtechnology.com>
Date2017-02-07 11:02 -0800
Message-ID<ia6k9chp7b6usub9c54ca3s6goh1p6g8c5@4ax.com>
In reply to#446656
On Tue, 7 Feb 2017 09:29:31 -0800 (PST), Lasse Langwadt Christensen
<langwadt@fonz.dk> wrote:

>Den tirsdag den 7. februar 2017 kl. 17.44.10 UTC+1 skrev John Larkin:
>> On Tue, 7 Feb 2017 06:44:06 -0800 (PST), George Herold
>> <gherold@teachspin.com> wrote:
>> 
>> >On Monday, February 6, 2017 at 4:54:07 PM UTC-5, Jim Thompson wrote:
>> >> On Mon, 6 Feb 2017 13:22:40 -0800 (PST), George Herold
>> >> 
>> >>  <gherold@teachspin.com> wrote:
>> >> 
>> >> [snip]
>> >> 
>> >> >The last few shows (I listened to) have been almost all Trump bashing. 
>> >> >And I can barley stand whomever they have on the left.. just whining all the time.
>> >> >
>> >> >George H.     
>> >> >> 
>> >> [snip]
>> >> 
>> >> I like barley soup.  Please eat yours, then you can, possibly,
>> >> properly spell "barely" >:-}
>> >
>> >Grin, my spleeing sucks... (And my fingers can get ahead of themselves...)
>> >When I was young I had two separate vocabularies,  One was written and the 
>> >other spoken.  It was always very amusing to find the same word in each 
>> >"vocabulary".  Almost always I was mis-pronouncing (in my head) the word 
>> >in my written vocabulary.  
>> >
>> 
>> I never learned to type, and my spelling is erratic. Word and
>> Thunderbird flag my spelling errors, so my official docs are correct.
>> I don't bother to spell-check casual stuff, like newsgroup posts, and
>> ignore fatheaded net-cops who harp on spelling. 
>> 
>> Until fairly recently in history, there were no standards for spelling
>> in English, and people survived. Texting kids don't bother to spell
>> correctly, and often mis-spell on purpose. We may be swinging back
>> towards free-form spelling. I sometimes make up words, just for fun.
>
>it takes more time to read stuff that isn't spelled correctly, because
>you have to read the letters and guess rather than recognize the word as 
>a "picture" 

George's "I can barley stand" is not hard to understand. English
structure has lots of redundancy.

If you're not a native English speaker, resolving ambiguities may be
more difficult.

Hey, it's only a newsgroup.


-- 

John Larkin         Highland Technology, Inc
picosecond timing   precision measurement 

jlarkin att highlandtechnology dott com
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#446555

Frombill.sloman@ieee.org
Date2017-02-06 17:26 -0800
Message-ID<45d82a99-4a88-4024-95ea-0ffb4a12cd8e@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#446459
On Tuesday, February 7, 2017 at 7:41:27 AM UTC+11, John Larkin wrote:
> On Mon, 6 Feb 2017 10:40:58 -0800 (PST), George Herold
> <gherold@teachspin.com> wrote:
> 
> >On Monday, February 6, 2017 at 11:37:35 AM UTC-5, John Larkin wrote:
> >> On Mon, 6 Feb 2017 06:50:01 -0800 (PST), George Herold
> >> <gherold@teachspin.com> wrote:
> >> 
> >> >On Saturday, February 4, 2017 at 10:40:12 AM UTC-5, Spehro Pefhany wrote:
> >> >> On Fri, 3 Feb 2017 06:20:26 -0800 (PST), the renowned George Herold
> >> >> <gherold@teachspin.com> wrote:
> >> >> 
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Hi Spehro, I wanted to ask if you know a good place to get views from the right?  
> >> >> >(The WSJ is OK, but mostly behind a paywall.)  I've looked at the National Review,
> >> >> >which seems OK, but some of their online stuff gets too slanted for me.  
> >> >> 
> >> >> The American Interest. Cato Institute, Lew Rockwell (doesn't seem that
> >> >> active recently), Jacob Hornberger's Future of Freedom Foundation
> >> >> (fff.org) are good from a libertarian pov. National Review, sure. If
> >> >> you want really far out there are popular WN sites that make Breitbart
> >> >> and Alex Jones look tame, but I'm not going to promote them. Very
> >> >> occasionally I'll take a look through a proxy. 
> >> >> 
> >> >> Mark Levin (big fan of Cruz) and others are on CRTV "Liberty's Voice".
> >> >> 
> >> >> https://www.crtv.com/
> >> >> 
> >> >> I bought a suscription for my kid for Xmas- he's a fan of Steven
> >> >> Crowder who is also on there- about $90/year USD- he likes it. 
> >> >> 
> >> >> 
> >> >> >Maybe something from a Canadian perspective? 
> >> >> 
> >> >> 
> >> >> A lot of this stuff is going to the new media. There are a few guys
> >> >> that have some unique viewpoints with youtube channels, and some of
> >> >> them happen to be Canucks. I'm not going to mention them here.  
> >> >> 
> >> >> In legacy media, the closest that I can think of is the National Post
> >> >> newspaper. http://www.nationalpost.com  It's moderately and mainstream
> >> >> right, not alt-right. A lot of big city readers so they have to be
> >> >> socially moderate. They have columists that have some decent range. 
> >> >> 
> >> >> >Re: NPR, I send 'em ~$100 a year so there's that.  
> >> >> 
> >> >> <sipping from my PBS Channel 17 mug> 
> >> >> 
> >> >> >I realize they are mostly a bunch of liberals, but I think they try to 
> >> >> >do a balanced job of reporting.  
> >> >> 
> >> >> The BBC is good. I like ft.com (Financial Times) but it's mostly
> >> >> behind a paywall. The Economist, good and in-depth but a bit
> >> >> expensive. cfr.org (Foreign Affairs) is good if you want informed
> >> >> views clustered around the US State Department official view. Lots of
> >> >> good book reviews. Most would be considered at least somewhat left,
> >> >> but they are financially and otherwise literate. 
> >> >> 
> >> >> For amusement purposes mainly, KCNA news (North Korea) is reachable,
> >> >> but blocked in most places- tunnel through Japan to get there.  
> >> >> 
> >> >> Eg, 
> >> >> 
> >> >> February 3. 2017 Juche 106
> >> >> 
> >> >> National Peace Committee Urges U.S. and S. Korean Puppet Forces to
> >> >> Repent of Their Act of Spawning Nuclear Issue
> >> >> 
> >> >> Pyongyang, February 3 (KCNA) -- A spokesman for the National Peace
> >> >> Committee of Korea released a statement Friday, 59 years since the
> >> >> U.S. introduced nuclear weapons to south Korea and made it public.
> >> >> ....
> >> >> 
> >> >> --sp 
> >> >> 
> >> >> -- 
> >> >> Best regards, 
> >> >> Spehro Pefhany
> >> >> Amazon link for AoE 3rd Edition:            http://tinyurl.com/ntrpwu8
> >> >
> >> >Thanks Spehro, I look at the BBC sometimes too... but I think most 
> >> >conservatives here (SED) would call them liberal.  
> >> >Hmm maybe I should check out some Australian papers?
> >> >
> >> >George H.  
> >> 
> >> BBC is pretty invested in leftist propaganda, which displaces balanced
> >> thinking. It also displaces good writing.
> >> 
> >OK fine, Do you have a source that tries to do balanced thinking?  
> 
> Nowadays, no. Even AP and Reuters and the big news outlets tilt their
> stuff with their perspective.

John Larkin expects the news sources to share his tilt, which includes believing what James Arthur tells him.

> All you can do these days is read the
> left and right-biased articles and make your own judgements.
> 
> Real Clear Politics presents opposing left/right links alternately,
> about as close to balance as you can get these days. The other Real
> Clears (science, tech, health, history) are pretty good links. 
> 
> >For me I find that NPR does that on the left.  
> >(But also I'm "mostly liberal", so biased.)   
> >I don't watch much TV, but Fox and MSNBC(and others) seem like news arms 
> >of the two parties.
> 
> Fox is a bit closer to center than, say MSNBC or the New York Times.

Fox is a Murdoch-owned right-wing source. James Arthur may feel that it isn't right enough, but less rabid observers do differ.
 
> Today's San Francisco Chronicle was tedious juvenile Trump bashing
> front to back. 

When Trump indulges in juvenile reality bashing all day long, reality does tend to bash back.

> People were justifying the Berkeley arson as a
> reasonable response to facism. Even the business section was full of
> Trump insults. The only relief from political ranting was the
> obituaries.
> 
> I canceled my NYT subscription when they did that. I'd cancel the
> Chron, except that Mo likes the sports section.
> 
> The quality, the writing, of journalism has really declined. I guess
> there is so much demand for content, for so many sources, they have to
> hire hacks.
> 
> Drudge is amazing
> 
> https://www.similarweb.com/blog/the-stats-dont-lie-almost-20-years-later-the-drudge-report-is-still-the-top-news-aggregator
> 
> given that it's nothing but links.

It presumably has quite a lot to chose from.

-- 
Bill Sloman, Sydney

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#446553

Frombill.sloman@ieee.org
Date2017-02-06 17:20 -0800
Message-ID<a28d061c-6b03-4d2f-9d24-eecdf390b6c2@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#446426
On Tuesday, February 7, 2017 at 3:37:35 AM UTC+11, John Larkin wrote:
> On Mon, 6 Feb 2017 06:50:01 -0800 (PST), George Herold
> <gherold@teachspin.com> wrote:
> 
> >On Saturday, February 4, 2017 at 10:40:12 AM UTC-5, Spehro Pefhany wrote:
> >> On Fri, 3 Feb 2017 06:20:26 -0800 (PST), the renowned George Herold
> >> <gherold@teachspin.com> wrote:
> >> 
> >> >
> >> >Hi Spehro, I wanted to ask if you know a good place to get views from the right?  
> >> >(The WSJ is OK, but mostly behind a paywall.)  I've looked at the National Review,
> >> >which seems OK, but some of their online stuff gets too slanted for me.  
> >> 
> >> The American Interest. Cato Institute, Lew Rockwell (doesn't seem that
> >> active recently), Jacob Hornberger's Future of Freedom Foundation
> >> (fff.org) are good from a libertarian pov. National Review, sure. If
> >> you want really far out there are popular WN sites that make Breitbart
> >> and Alex Jones look tame, but I'm not going to promote them. Very
> >> occasionally I'll take a look through a proxy. 
> >> 
> >> Mark Levin (big fan of Cruz) and others are on CRTV "Liberty's Voice".
> >> 
> >> https://www.crtv.com/
> >> 
> >> I bought a suscription for my kid for Xmas- he's a fan of Steven
> >> Crowder who is also on there- about $90/year USD- he likes it. 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> >Maybe something from a Canadian perspective? 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> A lot of this stuff is going to the new media. There are a few guys
> >> that have some unique viewpoints with youtube channels, and some of
> >> them happen to be Canucks. I'm not going to mention them here.  
> >> 
> >> In legacy media, the closest that I can think of is the National Post
> >> newspaper. http://www.nationalpost.com  It's moderately and mainstream
> >> right, not alt-right. A lot of big city readers so they have to be
> >> socially moderate. They have columists that have some decent range. 
> >> 
> >> >Re: NPR, I send 'em ~$100 a year so there's that.  
> >> 
> >> <sipping from my PBS Channel 17 mug> 
> >> 
> >> >I realize they are mostly a bunch of liberals, but I think they try to 
> >> >do a balanced job of reporting.  
> >> 
> >> The BBC is good. I like ft.com (Financial Times) but it's mostly
> >> behind a paywall. The Economist, good and in-depth but a bit
> >> expensive. cfr.org (Foreign Affairs) is good if you want informed
> >> views clustered around the US State Department official view. Lots of
> >> good book reviews. Most would be considered at least somewhat left,
> >> but they are financially and otherwise literate. 
> >> 
> >> For amusement purposes mainly, KCNA news (North Korea) is reachable,
> >> but blocked in most places- tunnel through Japan to get there.  
> >> 
> >> Eg, 
> >> 
> >> February 3. 2017 Juche 106
> >> 
> >> National Peace Committee Urges U.S. and S. Korean Puppet Forces to
> >> Repent of Their Act of Spawning Nuclear Issue
> >> 
> >> Pyongyang, February 3 (KCNA) -- A spokesman for the National Peace
> >> Committee of Korea released a statement Friday, 59 years since the
> >> U.S. introduced nuclear weapons to south Korea and made it public.
> >> ....
> >> 
> >> --sp 
> >> 
> >> -- 
> >> Best regards, 
> >> Spehro Pefhany
> >> Amazon link for AoE 3rd Edition:            http://tinyurl.com/ntrpwu8
> >
> >Thanks Spehro, I look at the BBC sometimes too... but I think most 
> >conservatives here (SED) would call them liberal.  
> >Hmm maybe I should check out some Australian papers? 
> 
> BBC is pretty invested in leftist propaganda, which displaces balanced
> thinking. It also displaces good writing.

John Larkin sees honest reporting about climate change as "leftist propaganda". In reality the BBC is a bit too committed to "balanced reporting" and not as good as it ought to be at getting the basic facts straight.

-- 
Bill Sloman, Sydney

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#446700

FromJulian Barnes <jb9889@notformail.com>
Date2017-02-07 23:27 +0000
Message-ID<o7dl4i$org$4@dont-email.me>
In reply to#446414
On Mon, 06 Feb 2017 06:50:01 -0800, George Herold wrote:

> Thanks Spehro, I look at the BBC sometimes too... but I think most
> conservatives here (SED) would call them liberal.

Nope, theyre a bunch of gay asswipes who dont even know what liberal 
means.

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#446705

FromJim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com>
Date2017-02-07 16:48 -0700
Message-ID<p3nk9cd24ptrfvj7a6ka1ef1ge081b4o0q@4ax.com>
In reply to#446700
On Tue, 7 Feb 2017 23:27:14 -0000 (UTC), Julian Barnes
<jb9889@notformail.com> wrote:

>On Mon, 06 Feb 2017 06:50:01 -0800, George Herold wrote:
>
>> Thanks Spehro, I look at the BBC sometimes too... but I think most
>> conservatives here (SED) would call them liberal.
>
>Nope, theyre a bunch of gay asswipes who dont even know what liberal 
>means.

Julian, You are too kind >:-}

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#446712

Frombill.sloman@ieee.org
Date2017-02-07 16:45 -0800
Message-ID<b86c6810-aae2-4395-b2a8-4dcc5d45031f@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#446705
On Wednesday, February 8, 2017 at 10:48:33 AM UTC+11, Jim Thompson wrote:
> On Tue, 7 Feb 2017 23:27:14 -0000 (UTC), Julian Barnes
> <jb9889@notformail.com> wrote:
> 
> >On Mon, 06 Feb 2017 06:50:01 -0800, George Herold wrote:
> >
> >> Thanks Spehro, I look at the BBC sometimes too... but I think most
> >> conservatives here (SED) would call them liberal.
> >
> >Nope, theyre a bunch of gay asswipes who dont even know what liberal 
> >means.
> 
> Julian, You are too kind >:-}
> 
> Liberal: Contraction for "Village Idiot with Communist Leanings"

Jim-out-of-touch-with-reality-Thompson clearly doesn't know that liberal originally meant "in favour of free trade". Oddly enough, that would mean that Donald Trump isn't a liberal.

-- 
Bill Sloman, Sydney

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#446711

Frombill.sloman@ieee.org
Date2017-02-07 16:42 -0800
Message-ID<4c5caa9d-28af-4a10-9b41-31fffcfc982f@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#446700
On Wednesday, February 8, 2017 at 10:29:04 AM UTC+11, Julian Barnes wrote:
> On Mon, 06 Feb 2017 06:50:01 -0800, George Herold wrote:
> 
> > Thanks Spehro, I look at the BBC sometimes too... but I think most
> > conservatives here (SED) would call them liberal.
> 
> Nope, they're a bunch of gay asswipes who don't even know what liberal 
> means.

Some of them may be gay, but getting work at the BBC means beating out a lot of competition. They all know exactly what liberal means - and how it means different things to different demographics.

Since Julian Barnes seems to be an AI experiment that is busy failing the Turing test, he's not - strictly speaking - a member of any human population.

-- 
Bill Sloman, Sydney

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#445815

FromPhil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net>
Date2017-02-02 14:45 -0500
Message-ID<P5ydnV2uYsb-EQ7FnZ2dnUU7-YGdnZ2d@supernews.com>
In reply to#445782
On 02/02/2017 01:14 PM, George Herold wrote:
> On Thursday, February 2, 2017 at 11:52:59 AM UTC-5, Phil Hobbs wrote:
>> On 02/02/2017 11:50 AM, George Herold wrote:
>>> On Thursday, February 2, 2017 at 10:51:39 AM UTC-5, Jim Thompson wrote:
>>>> OT: Berkeley...
>>>>
>>>> <http://tinyurl.com/zzhgsh5>
>>>>
>>>> Well deserved!
>>>
>>> Hmm, freedom of speech doesn't mean I have to listen to you.  
>>> Protests are fine, I find the violence distasteful. 
>>>
>>> BTW I was listening to NPR last night (fresh-air) and they had 
>>>  someone on who knows Judge Gorsuch.  He sounds like a good egg, 
>>> the conservative version of Garland.  I hope he gets approved 
>>> without much fan fare.  
>>> (I wish the Republicans had held hearing on Garland, and then 
>>> rejected him. That would have left less of a bad taste in my mouth.)
>>
>> There are enough RINOs in the underbrush, and enough dirty money around
>> that Garland might have got approved.  Much safer to not let it come to
>> a vote.
> Yabut, the Dem's won't forget, and then are looking for "pay back" in the future.
> The game of tit for tat, goes on.  (Though it looks a long way off, they will be 
> back in power sometime.)  
> 
> George H.
> 

Unfortunately now that the Democrats have broken down the old rules and
had an eight-year field day, nobody is under any illusions.  If they
ever get back in power--their party is in such bad shape that it may
not--they'll do all that stuff no matter what the current crop do.

I far preferred living in a society with mutual respect and willingness
to listen, but the totalitarian left has made that impossible, and we
all have to live with the new normal. :(

Cheers

Phil Hobbs


-- 
Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics

160 North State Road #203
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510

hobbs at electrooptical dot net
http://electrooptical.net

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#445857

FromGeorge Herold <gherold@teachspin.com>
Date2017-02-02 16:54 -0800
Message-ID<9e934c94-1b76-409a-8356-d5f192cd3d66@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#445815
On Thursday, February 2, 2017 at 2:45:47 PM UTC-5, Phil Hobbs wrote:
> On 02/02/2017 01:14 PM, George Herold wrote:
> > On Thursday, February 2, 2017 at 11:52:59 AM UTC-5, Phil Hobbs wrote:
> >> On 02/02/2017 11:50 AM, George Herold wrote:
> >>> On Thursday, February 2, 2017 at 10:51:39 AM UTC-5, Jim Thompson wrote:
> >>>> OT: Berkeley...
> >>>>
> >>>> <http://tinyurl.com/zzhgsh5>
> >>>>
> >>>> Well deserved!
> >>>
> >>> Hmm, freedom of speech doesn't mean I have to listen to you.  
> >>> Protests are fine, I find the violence distasteful. 
> >>>
> >>> BTW I was listening to NPR last night (fresh-air) and they had 
> >>>  someone on who knows Judge Gorsuch.  He sounds like a good egg, 
> >>> the conservative version of Garland.  I hope he gets approved 
> >>> without much fan fare.  
> >>> (I wish the Republicans had held hearing on Garland, and then 
> >>> rejected him. That would have left less of a bad taste in my mouth.)
> >>
> >> There are enough RINOs in the underbrush, and enough dirty money around
> >> that Garland might have got approved.  Much safer to not let it come to
> >> a vote.
> > Yabut, the Dem's won't forget, and then are looking for "pay back" in the future.
> > The game of tit for tat, goes on.  (Though it looks a long way off, they will be 
> > back in power sometime.)  
> > 
> > George H.
> > 
> 
> Unfortunately now that the Democrats have broken down the old rules and
> had an eight-year field day, nobody is under any illusions.  If they
> ever get back in power--their party is in such bad shape that it may
> not--they'll do all that stuff no matter what the current crop do.
> 
> I far preferred living in a society with mutual respect and willingness
> to listen, but the totalitarian left has made that impossible, and we
> all have to live with the new normal. :(
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Phil Hobbs

Phil,  We'll just have to disagree about the last eight years.
(I so wish Obama and Boehner had been able to do the 
"grand bargain". But it didn't happen for lotsa reasons. 
I don't want to partition blame, 50/50 seems reasonable) 
(I know, Boehner is one of the Rinos*.) 

I feel slightly more left than right,
but I don't fell at all totalitarian.  
I will certainly listen to you.... 
which hardly matter now.  
(I despise D's only slightly less than R's, 
oh how I dream of some party in the middle.)

George H.
*PH, I've never met you, but you strike me as one of the 
most decent men I know. .. so no offense.
Plowing the drive way tonight, I was thinking about 
how republicans feel it's all right to call each other names,
and once the name calling starts... 
(Democrats have been calling each other names for ages,
so that doesn't matter. :^)


 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Dr Philip C D Hobbs
> Principal Consultant
> ElectroOptical Innovations LLC
> Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics
> 
> 160 North State Road #203
> Briarcliff Manor NY 10510
> 
> hobbs at electrooptical dot net
> http://electrooptical.net

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#445977

Frombitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net>
Date2017-02-03 12:34 -0500
Message-ID<ra3lA.45040$RF7.30123@fx18.iad>
In reply to#445857
On 02/02/2017 07:54 PM, George Herold wrote:
> On Thursday, February 2, 2017 at 2:45:47 PM UTC-5, Phil Hobbs wrote:
>> On 02/02/2017 01:14 PM, George Herold wrote:
>>> On Thursday, February 2, 2017 at 11:52:59 AM UTC-5, Phil Hobbs wrote:
>>>> On 02/02/2017 11:50 AM, George Herold wrote:
>>>>> On Thursday, February 2, 2017 at 10:51:39 AM UTC-5, Jim Thompson wrote:
>>>>>> OT: Berkeley...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <http://tinyurl.com/zzhgsh5>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Well deserved!
>>>>>
>>>>> Hmm, freedom of speech doesn't mean I have to listen to you.
>>>>> Protests are fine, I find the violence distasteful.
>>>>>
>>>>> BTW I was listening to NPR last night (fresh-air) and they had
>>>>>  someone on who knows Judge Gorsuch.  He sounds like a good egg,
>>>>> the conservative version of Garland.  I hope he gets approved
>>>>> without much fan fare.
>>>>> (I wish the Republicans had held hearing on Garland, and then
>>>>> rejected him. That would have left less of a bad taste in my mouth.)
>>>>
>>>> There are enough RINOs in the underbrush, and enough dirty money around
>>>> that Garland might have got approved.  Much safer to not let it come to
>>>> a vote.
>>> Yabut, the Dem's won't forget, and then are looking for "pay back" in the future.
>>> The game of tit for tat, goes on.  (Though it looks a long way off, they will be
>>> back in power sometime.)
>>>
>>> George H.
>>>
>>
>> Unfortunately now that the Democrats have broken down the old rules and
>> had an eight-year field day, nobody is under any illusions.  If they
>> ever get back in power--their party is in such bad shape that it may
>> not--they'll do all that stuff no matter what the current crop do.
>>
>> I far preferred living in a society with mutual respect and willingness
>> to listen, but the totalitarian left has made that impossible, and we
>> all have to live with the new normal. :(
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Phil Hobbs
>
> Phil,  We'll just have to disagree about the last eight years.
> (I so wish Obama and Boehner had been able to do the
> "grand bargain". But it didn't happen for lotsa reasons.
> I don't want to partition blame, 50/50 seems reasonable)
> (I know, Boehner is one of the Rinos*.)
>
> I feel slightly more left than right,
> but I don't fell at all totalitarian.
> I will certainly listen to you....
> which hardly matter now.
> (I despise D's only slightly less than R's,
> oh how I dream of some party in the middle.)
>
> George H.
> *PH, I've never met you, but you strike me as one of the
> most decent men I know. .. so no offense.
> Plowing the drive way tonight, I was thinking about
> how republicans feel it's all right to call each other names,
> and once the name calling starts...
> (Democrats have been calling each other names for ages,
> so that doesn't matter. :^)

I'd vote for a Republican candidate who used the expansion of Federal 
power under a Democratic presidency as a reason to legislate the 
_reduction_ of Federal power, sort of like what their talking points 
have always said, not a justification for "Well, I'm pretty sure they 
did it, so we need to double down."

I won't hold my breath.

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#445979

Fromdagmargoodboat@yahoo.com
Date2017-02-03 09:48 -0800
Message-ID<690df588-a982-41a5-8e7f-d6548daf959f@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#445857
On Thursday, February 2, 2017 at 7:54:39 PM UTC-5, George Herold wrote:
> On Thursday, February 2, 2017 at 2:45:47 PM UTC-5, Phil Hobbs wrote:
> > On 02/02/2017 01:14 PM, George Herold wrote:
> > > On Thursday, February 2, 2017 at 11:52:59 AM UTC-5, Phil Hobbs wrote:
> > >> On 02/02/2017 11:50 AM, George Herold wrote:
> > >>> On Thursday, February 2, 2017 at 10:51:39 AM UTC-5, Jim Thompson wrote:
> > >>>> OT: Berkeley...
> > >>>>
> > >>>> <http://tinyurl.com/zzhgsh5>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Well deserved!
> > >>>
> > >>> Hmm, freedom of speech doesn't mean I have to listen to you.  
> > >>> Protests are fine, I find the violence distasteful. 
> > >>>
> > >>> BTW I was listening to NPR last night (fresh-air) and they had 
> > >>>  someone on who knows Judge Gorsuch.  He sounds like a good egg, 
> > >>> the conservative version of Garland.  I hope he gets approved 
> > >>> without much fan fare.  
> > >>> (I wish the Republicans had held hearing on Garland, and then 
> > >>> rejected him. That would have left less of a bad taste in my mouth.)
> > >>
> > >> There are enough RINOs in the underbrush, and enough dirty money around
> > >> that Garland might have got approved.  Much safer to not let it come to
> > >> a vote.
> > > Yabut, the Dem's won't forget, and then are looking for "pay back" in the future.
> > > The game of tit for tat, goes on.  (Though it looks a long way off, they will be 
> > > back in power sometime.)  
> > > 
> > > George H.
> > > 
> > 
> > Unfortunately now that the Democrats have broken down the old rules and
> > had an eight-year field day, nobody is under any illusions.  If they
> > ever get back in power--their party is in such bad shape that it may
> > not--they'll do all that stuff no matter what the current crop do.
> > 
> > I far preferred living in a society with mutual respect and willingness
> > to listen, but the totalitarian left has made that impossible, and we
> > all have to live with the new normal. :(
> > 
> > Cheers
> > 
> > Phil Hobbs
> 
> Phil,  We'll just have to disagree about the last eight years.
> (I so wish Obama and Boehner had been able to do the 
> "grand bargain". But it didn't happen for lotsa reasons. 
> I don't want to partition blame, 50/50 seems reasonable) 
> (I know, Boehner is one of the Rinos*.) 
> 
> I feel slightly more left than right,
> but I don't fell at all totalitarian.  
> I will certainly listen to you.... 
> which hardly matter now.  
> (I despise D's only slightly less than R's, 
> oh how I dream of some party in the middle.)
> 
> George H.
> *PH, I've never met you, but you strike me as one of the 
> most decent men I know. .. so no offense.
> Plowing the drive way tonight, I was thinking about 
> how republicans feel it's all right to call each other names,
> and once the name calling starts... 
> (Democrats have been calling each other names for ages,
> so that doesn't matter. :^)

George, for eight years I've had Democrats I've never met literally scream
'racist' at me, and a president constantly suggesting the same.  Speaking
of totalitarian, the tactic goes back to Lenin, IIRC.

I, my friends, and some of my clients all got Lois Lerner's attention.
My accounts were seized.  Twice.  Simply for saying America's spending
too much money that we can't afford, and for daring to suggest that this

http://aapsonline.org/wp/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/obamacare-chart.jpg

wouldn't work?  In the end, all tallied and re-tallied, they owed me a
few thousand.  

And it's Pelosi & Schumer & Reid, who say if I don't want the government
to administer children's tooth-brushing, I must be against tooth-brushing,
(or teaching them how to tie their shoes).

Cheers,
James Arthur

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