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| Started by | Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> |
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| First post | 2017-02-06 16:29 -0700 |
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OT: Wow! Reason returns to law and order... Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2017-02-06 16:29 -0700
Re: OT: Wow! Reason returns to law and order... dagmargoodboat@yahoo.com - 2017-02-06 15:35 -0800
Re: OT: Wow! Reason returns to law and order... Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2017-02-06 17:00 -0700
Re: OT: Wow! Reason returns to law and order... pcdhobbs@gmail.com - 2017-02-06 17:16 -0800
Re: OT: Wow! Reason returns to law and order... Martin Riddle <martin_ridd@verizon.net> - 2017-02-06 18:48 -0500
Re: OT: Wow! Reason returns to law and order... M Philbrook <jamie_ka1lpa@charter.net> - 2017-02-06 18:57 -0500
Re: OT: Wow! Reason returns to law and order... Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2017-02-06 17:02 -0700
Re: OT: Wow! Reason returns to law and order... George Herold <gherold@teachspin.com> - 2017-02-07 06:36 -0800
Re: OT: Wow! Reason returns to law and order... krw@notreal.com - 2017-02-07 12:36 -0500
Re: OT: Wow! Reason returns to law and order... George Herold <gherold@teachspin.com> - 2017-02-07 10:36 -0800
Re: OT: Wow! Reason returns to law and order... bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> - 2017-02-06 18:49 -0500
Re: OT: Wow! Reason returns to law and order... Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> - 2017-02-06 17:15 -0700
Re: OT: Wow! Reason returns to law and order... bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> - 2017-02-06 19:24 -0500
Re: OT: Wow! Reason returns to law and order... bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> - 2017-02-06 19:35 -0500
Re: OT: Wow! Reason returns to law and order... Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2017-02-06 17:47 -0700
Re: OT: Wow! Reason returns to law and order... Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> - 2017-02-06 17:54 -0700
Re: OT: Wow! Reason returns to law and order... bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> - 2017-02-06 20:16 -0500
Re: OT: Wow! Reason returns to law and order... "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2017-02-06 16:37 -0800
Re: OT: Wow! Reason returns to law and order... bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> - 2017-02-06 19:44 -0500
Re: OT: Wow! Reason returns to law and order... Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2017-02-06 17:49 -0700
Re: OT: Wow! Reason returns to law and order... bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> - 2017-02-06 19:54 -0500
Re: OT: Wow! Reason returns to law and order... Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> - 2017-02-06 17:57 -0700
Re: OT: Wow! Reason returns to law and order... bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> - 2017-02-06 20:02 -0500
Re: OT: Wow! Reason returns to law and order... Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2017-02-06 18:55 -0700
Re: OT: Wow! Reason returns to law and order... Clifford Heath <no.spam@please.net> - 2017-02-07 13:13 +1100
Re: OT: Wow! Reason returns to law and order... bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> - 2017-02-06 21:20 -0500
Re: OT: Wow! Reason returns to law and order... bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> - 2017-02-06 21:31 -0500
Re: OT: Wow! Reason returns to law and order... Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2017-02-07 06:45 +0000
Re: OT: Wow! Reason returns to law and order... bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> - 2017-02-07 13:20 -0500
Re: OT: Wow! Reason returns to law and order... Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2017-02-07 06:32 +0000
Re: OT: Wow! Reason returns to law and order... bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> - 2017-02-06 19:58 -0500
Re: OT: Wow! Reason returns to law and order... bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-02-06 17:01 -0800
Re: OT: Wow! Reason returns to law and order... bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> - 2017-02-06 20:06 -0500
Re: OT: Wow! Reason returns to law and order... bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> - 2017-02-06 20:11 -0500
Re: OT: Wow! Reason returns to law and order... John Larkin <jjlarkinxyxy@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-02-06 17:42 -0800
Re: OT: Wow! Reason returns to law and order... mixed nuts <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> - 2017-02-07 10:03 -0500
Re: OT: Wow! Reason returns to law and order... John Larkin <jjlarkinxyxy@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-02-07 11:10 -0800
Re: OT: Wow! Reason returns to law and order... Lasse Langwadt Christensen <langwadt@fonz.dk> - 2017-02-07 12:40 -0800
Re: OT: Wow! Reason returns to law and order... Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2017-02-07 14:51 -0700
Re: OT: Wow! Reason returns to law and order... mixed nuts <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> - 2017-02-08 00:25 -0500
Re: OT: Wow! Reason returns to law and order... Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> - 2017-02-08 12:19 -0500
Re: OT: Wow! Reason returns to law and order... krw@notreal.com - 2017-02-08 12:38 -0500
Re: OT: Wow! Reason returns to law and order... bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-02-08 14:47 -0800
Re: OT: Wow! Reason returns to law and order... mixed nuts <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> - 2017-02-08 17:43 -0500
Re: OT: Wow! Reason returns to law and order... Cursitor Doom <curd@notformail.com> - 2017-02-08 21:25 +0000
Re: OT: Wow! Reason returns to law and order... Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2017-02-08 14:37 -0700
Re: OT: Wow! Reason returns to law and order... Cursitor Doom <curd@notformail.com> - 2017-02-08 23:24 +0000
Re: OT: Wow! Reason returns to law and order... pcdhobbs@gmail.com - 2017-02-08 15:30 -0800
Re: OT: Wow! Reason returns to law and order... Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2017-02-08 16:57 -0700
Re: OT: Wow! Reason returns to law and order... Cursitor Doom <curd@notformail.com> - 2017-02-10 17:06 +0000
Re: OT: Wow! Reason returns to law and order... Jeroen Belleman <jeroen@nospam.please> - 2017-02-10 23:49 +0100
Re: OT: Wow! Reason returns to law and order... John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-02-07 19:18 -0800
Re: OT: Wow! Reason returns to law and order... krw@notreal.com - 2017-02-07 22:26 -0500
Re: OT: Wow! Reason returns to law and order... djlocher56@gmail.com - 2017-02-11 07:13 -0800
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| From | bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> |
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| Date | 2017-02-06 19:54 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: OT: Wow! Reason returns to law and order... |
| Message-ID | <CV8mA.2$ZQ5.1@fx22.iad> |
| In reply to | #446530 |
On 02/06/2017 07:49 PM, Jim Thompson wrote: > On Mon, 6 Feb 2017 16:37:16 -0800 (PST), "nuny@bid.nes" > <Alien8752@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On Monday, February 6, 2017 at 3:29:41 PM UTC-8, Jim Thompson wrote: >>> OT: Wow! Reason returns to law and order... >>> >>> <http://tinyurl.com/htf4sk6> >>> >>> (I only set off smoke bombs when I was in middle school, 1952-1955; >>> principal confiscated my supply, returned them to me at the end of the >>> day, and told me never to do it again, or else. Nice guy... named >>> William Boyd... we called him Hopalong ;-) >> >> My favorite bit is at the end of his opinion: >> >> "Often enough the law can be “a ass — a idiot,” Charles Dickens, Oliver Twist 520 (Dodd, Mead & Co. 1941) (1838) — and there is little we judges can do about it, for it is (or should be) emphatically our job to apply, not rewrite, the law enacted by the people’s representatives." >> >> That's probably enough to enrage the extreme Lefties right there. >> >> >> Mark L. Fergerson > > Indeed >:-} > > ...Jim Thompson > Who's the bigger idiot? The idiotic law or the idiot who follows it?
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| From | Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> |
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| Date | 2017-02-06 17:57 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: OT: Wow! Reason returns to law and order... |
| Message-ID | <o7b5uq$nh$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #446537 |
On 2/6/2017 5:54 PM, bitrex wrote: > On 02/06/2017 07:49 PM, Jim Thompson wrote: >> On Mon, 6 Feb 2017 16:37:16 -0800 (PST), "nuny@bid.nes" >> <Alien8752@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> On Monday, February 6, 2017 at 3:29:41 PM UTC-8, Jim Thompson wrote: >>>> OT: Wow! Reason returns to law and order... >>>> >>>> <http://tinyurl.com/htf4sk6> >>>> >>>> (I only set off smoke bombs when I was in middle school, 1952-1955; >>>> principal confiscated my supply, returned them to me at the end of the >>>> day, and told me never to do it again, or else. Nice guy... named >>>> William Boyd... we called him Hopalong ;-) >>> >>> My favorite bit is at the end of his opinion: >>> >>> "Often enough the law can be “a ass — a idiot,” Charles Dickens, Oliver >>> Twist 520 (Dodd, Mead & Co. 1941) (1838) — and there is little we judges can >>> do about it, for it is (or should be) emphatically our job to apply, not >>> rewrite, the law enacted by the people’s representatives." >>> >>> That's probably enough to enrage the extreme Lefties right there. >>> >>> >>> Mark L. Fergerson >> >> Indeed >:-} > > Who's the bigger idiot? The idiotic law or the idiot who follows it? If you don't like the law, work to have it changed. But, selectively following laws because you think them "inappropriate" lies the way of anarchy. Should I have to come to a complete stop when I approach a 4-way stop at 3AM and there are no cars in evidence for a mile or more in ALL DIRECTIONS? Ans: Yes.
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| From | bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> |
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| Date | 2017-02-06 20:02 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: OT: Wow! Reason returns to law and order... |
| Message-ID | <t09mA.1$VV2.0@fx33.iad> |
| In reply to | #446542 |
On 02/06/2017 07:57 PM, Don Y wrote: > On 2/6/2017 5:54 PM, bitrex wrote: >> On 02/06/2017 07:49 PM, Jim Thompson wrote: >>> On Mon, 6 Feb 2017 16:37:16 -0800 (PST), "nuny@bid.nes" >>> <Alien8752@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> On Monday, February 6, 2017 at 3:29:41 PM UTC-8, Jim Thompson wrote: >>>>> OT: Wow! Reason returns to law and order... >>>>> >>>>> <http://tinyurl.com/htf4sk6> >>>>> >>>>> (I only set off smoke bombs when I was in middle school, 1952-1955; >>>>> principal confiscated my supply, returned them to me at the end of the >>>>> day, and told me never to do it again, or else. Nice guy... named >>>>> William Boyd... we called him Hopalong ;-) >>>> >>>> My favorite bit is at the end of his opinion: >>>> >>>> "Often enough the law can be “a ass — a idiot,” Charles Dickens, >>>> Oliver >>>> Twist 520 (Dodd, Mead & Co. 1941) (1838) — and there is little we >>>> judges can >>>> do about it, for it is (or should be) emphatically our job to apply, >>>> not >>>> rewrite, the law enacted by the people’s representatives." >>>> >>>> That's probably enough to enrage the extreme Lefties right there. >>>> >>>> >>>> Mark L. Fergerson >>> >>> Indeed >:-} >> >> Who's the bigger idiot? The idiotic law or the idiot who follows it? > > If you don't like the law, work to have it changed. But say the laws were written so that you can only change them if they're not followed like clockwork, but every legal body follows them like clockwork. That's kinda the goal, you might say.
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| From | Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> |
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| Date | 2017-02-06 18:55 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: OT: Wow! Reason returns to law and order... |
| Message-ID | <u6ai9c186g46nb0hipoovihhrdhm9cckfj@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #446542 |
On Mon, 6 Feb 2017 17:57:41 -0700, Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid>
wrote:
>On 2/6/2017 5:54 PM, bitrex wrote:
>> On 02/06/2017 07:49 PM, Jim Thompson wrote:
>>> On Mon, 6 Feb 2017 16:37:16 -0800 (PST), "nuny@bid.nes"
>>> <Alien8752@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Monday, February 6, 2017 at 3:29:41 PM UTC-8, Jim Thompson wrote:
>>>>> OT: Wow! Reason returns to law and order...
>>>>>
>>>>> <http://tinyurl.com/htf4sk6>
>>>>>
>>>>> (I only set off smoke bombs when I was in middle school, 1952-1955;
>>>>> principal confiscated my supply, returned them to me at the end of the
>>>>> day, and told me never to do it again, or else. Nice guy... named
>>>>> William Boyd... we called him Hopalong ;-)
>>>>
>>>> My favorite bit is at the end of his opinion:
>>>>
>>>> "Often enough the law can be “a ass — a idiot,” Charles Dickens, Oliver
>>>> Twist 520 (Dodd, Mead & Co. 1941) (1838) — and there is little we judges can
>>>> do about it, for it is (or should be) emphatically our job to apply, not
>>>> rewrite, the law enacted by the people’s representatives."
>>>>
>>>> That's probably enough to enrage the extreme Lefties right there.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Mark L. Fergerson
>>>
>>> Indeed >:-}
>>
>> Who's the bigger idiot? The idiotic law or the idiot who follows it?
>
>If you don't like the law, work to have it changed.
>
>But, selectively following laws because you think them "inappropriate"
>lies the way of anarchy.
>
>Should I have to come to a complete stop when I approach a 4-way stop
>at 3AM and there are no cars in evidence for a mile or more in ALL
>DIRECTIONS?
>
>Ans: Yes.
Because there's a cop lurking around the corner... happened to me once
about 45 years ago :-(
...Jim Thompson
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| From | Clifford Heath <no.spam@please.net> |
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| Date | 2017-02-07 13:13 +1100 |
| Subject | Re: OT: Wow! Reason returns to law and order... |
| Message-ID | <58992d58$0$28934$c3e8da3$88b277c5@news.astraweb.com> |
| In reply to | #446562 |
On 07/02/17 12:55, Jim Thompson wrote: > On Mon, 6 Feb 2017 17:57:41 -0700, Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> > wrote: > >> On 2/6/2017 5:54 PM, bitrex wrote: >>> On 02/06/2017 07:49 PM, Jim Thompson wrote: >>>> On Mon, 6 Feb 2017 16:37:16 -0800 (PST), "nuny@bid.nes" >>>> <Alien8752@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Monday, February 6, 2017 at 3:29:41 PM UTC-8, Jim Thompson wrote: >>>>>> OT: Wow! Reason returns to law and order... >>>>>> >>>>>> <http://tinyurl.com/htf4sk6> >>>>>> >>>>>> (I only set off smoke bombs when I was in middle school, 1952-1955; >>>>>> principal confiscated my supply, returned them to me at the end of the >>>>>> day, and told me never to do it again, or else. Nice guy... named >>>>>> William Boyd... we called him Hopalong ;-) >>>>> >>>>> My favorite bit is at the end of his opinion: >>>>> >>>>> "Often enough the law can be “a ass — a idiot,” Charles Dickens, Oliver >>>>> Twist 520 (Dodd, Mead & Co. 1941) (1838) — and there is little we judges can >>>>> do about it, for it is (or should be) emphatically our job to apply, not >>>>> rewrite, the law enacted by the people’s representatives." >>>>> >>>>> That's probably enough to enrage the extreme Lefties right there. >>>>> Mark L. Fergerson >>>> >>>> Indeed >:-} >>> >>> Who's the bigger idiot? The idiotic law or the idiot who follows it? >> >> If you don't like the law, work to have it changed. >> >> But, selectively following laws because you think them "inappropriate" >> lies the way of anarchy. >> >> Should I have to come to a complete stop when I approach a 4-way stop >> at 3AM and there are no cars in evidence for a mile or more in ALL >> DIRECTIONS? >> >> Ans: Yes. > > Because there's a cop lurking around the corner... happened to me once > about 45 years ago :-( Or worse... because although there are no cars, there *is* a black motorcycle, speeding, in a small side-street, in the drizzling rain at deep twilight, wearing dark clothing and helmet, with totally inadequate lights, appearing from behind parked cars, giving you basically zero warning, then trying to blame you because they laid their bike down when they saw you start to move forward *after* you stopped. Yes, it happens. Clifford Heath.
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| From | bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> |
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| Date | 2017-02-06 21:20 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: OT: Wow! Reason returns to law and order... |
| Message-ID | <eaamA.14$824.9@fx37.iad> |
| In reply to | #446542 |
On 02/06/2017 07:57 PM, Don Y wrote: > On 2/6/2017 5:54 PM, bitrex wrote: >> On 02/06/2017 07:49 PM, Jim Thompson wrote: >>> On Mon, 6 Feb 2017 16:37:16 -0800 (PST), "nuny@bid.nes" >>> <Alien8752@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> On Monday, February 6, 2017 at 3:29:41 PM UTC-8, Jim Thompson wrote: >>>>> OT: Wow! Reason returns to law and order... >>>>> >>>>> <http://tinyurl.com/htf4sk6> >>>>> >>>>> (I only set off smoke bombs when I was in middle school, 1952-1955; >>>>> principal confiscated my supply, returned them to me at the end of the >>>>> day, and told me never to do it again, or else. Nice guy... named >>>>> William Boyd... we called him Hopalong ;-) >>>> >>>> My favorite bit is at the end of his opinion: >>>> >>>> "Often enough the law can be “a ass — a idiot,” Charles Dickens, >>>> Oliver >>>> Twist 520 (Dodd, Mead & Co. 1941) (1838) — and there is little we >>>> judges can >>>> do about it, for it is (or should be) emphatically our job to apply, >>>> not >>>> rewrite, the law enacted by the people’s representatives." >>>> >>>> That's probably enough to enrage the extreme Lefties right there. >>>> >>>> >>>> Mark L. Fergerson >>> >>> Indeed >:-} >> >> Who's the bigger idiot? The idiotic law or the idiot who follows it? > > If you don't like the law, work to have it changed. > > But, selectively following laws because you think them "inappropriate" > lies the way of anarchy. > > Should I have to come to a complete stop when I approach a 4-way stop > at 3AM and there are no cars in evidence for a mile or more in ALL > DIRECTIONS? > > Ans: Yes. I don't think anyone is in favor of eliminating traffic laws - IMO they're not at all enforced stringently in the US anyway (except when there's money to be made.) Also they're another regressive tax on the poor. What does someone who makes 100k a year care about getting a $50 parking ticket or a $100 speeding fine? There are seriously residents of Boston who simply accept $10,000 worth of parking tickets a year as a "cost of doing business" cuz it's cheaper than renting a parking space in a tony area of the Back Bay over the same timeframe.
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| From | bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> |
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| Date | 2017-02-06 21:31 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: OT: Wow! Reason returns to law and order... |
| Message-ID | <mkamA.326$GB2.115@fx43.iad> |
| In reply to | #446570 |
On 02/06/2017 09:20 PM, bitrex wrote: > On 02/06/2017 07:57 PM, Don Y wrote: >> On 2/6/2017 5:54 PM, bitrex wrote: >>> On 02/06/2017 07:49 PM, Jim Thompson wrote: >>>> On Mon, 6 Feb 2017 16:37:16 -0800 (PST), "nuny@bid.nes" >>>> <Alien8752@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Monday, February 6, 2017 at 3:29:41 PM UTC-8, Jim Thompson wrote: >>>>>> OT: Wow! Reason returns to law and order... >>>>>> >>>>>> <http://tinyurl.com/htf4sk6> >>>>>> >>>>>> (I only set off smoke bombs when I was in middle school, 1952-1955; >>>>>> principal confiscated my supply, returned them to me at the end of >>>>>> the >>>>>> day, and told me never to do it again, or else. Nice guy... named >>>>>> William Boyd... we called him Hopalong ;-) >>>>> >>>>> My favorite bit is at the end of his opinion: >>>>> >>>>> "Often enough the law can be “a ass — a idiot,” Charles Dickens, >>>>> Oliver >>>>> Twist 520 (Dodd, Mead & Co. 1941) (1838) — and there is little we >>>>> judges can >>>>> do about it, for it is (or should be) emphatically our job to apply, >>>>> not >>>>> rewrite, the law enacted by the people’s representatives." >>>>> >>>>> That's probably enough to enrage the extreme Lefties right there. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Mark L. Fergerson >>>> >>>> Indeed >:-} >>> >>> Who's the bigger idiot? The idiotic law or the idiot who follows it? >> >> If you don't like the law, work to have it changed. >> >> But, selectively following laws because you think them "inappropriate" >> lies the way of anarchy. I'm frankly way more terrified of fascism than anarchy, simply due to statistical arguments. True anarchy lasting any significant amount of time is an anomaly of recent human history. Fascism, however, is really common!
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| From | Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> |
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| Date | 2017-02-07 06:45 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: OT: Wow! Reason returns to law and order... |
| Message-ID | <o7bqe0$qbu$1@gonzo.alcatraz> |
| In reply to | #446570 |
On 2017-02-07, bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> wrote: > On 02/06/2017 07:57 PM, Don Y wrote: >> On 2/6/2017 5:54 PM, bitrex wrote: > > I don't think anyone is in favor of eliminating traffic laws - IMO > they're not at all enforced stringently in the US anyway (except when > there's money to be made.) > > Also they're another regressive tax on the poor. What does someone who > makes 100k a year care about getting a $50 parking ticket or a $100 > speeding fine? There are seriously residents of Boston who simply accept > $10,000 worth of parking tickets a year as a "cost of doing business" > cuz it's cheaper than renting a parking space in a tony area of the Back > Bay over the same timeframe. So, the council (who are collecting the fines) and the car owner (who pays them) have an agreement. Were the parking really problematic the council would relocate the car to an impound lot. -- This email has not been checked by half-arsed antivirus software
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| From | bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> |
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| Date | 2017-02-07 13:20 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: OT: Wow! Reason returns to law and order... |
| Message-ID | <AdomA.331$L77.132@fx38.iad> |
| In reply to | #446609 |
On 02/07/2017 01:45 AM, Jasen Betts wrote: > On 2017-02-07, bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> wrote: >> On 02/06/2017 07:57 PM, Don Y wrote: >>> On 2/6/2017 5:54 PM, bitrex wrote: > >> >> I don't think anyone is in favor of eliminating traffic laws - IMO >> they're not at all enforced stringently in the US anyway (except when >> there's money to be made.) >> >> Also they're another regressive tax on the poor. What does someone who >> makes 100k a year care about getting a $50 parking ticket or a $100 >> speeding fine? There are seriously residents of Boston who simply accept >> $10,000 worth of parking tickets a year as a "cost of doing business" >> cuz it's cheaper than renting a parking space in a tony area of the Back >> Bay over the same timeframe. > > So, the council (who are collecting the fines) and the car owner (who > pays them) have an agreement. > > Were the parking really problematic the council would relocate the car to > an impound lot. > Yes, "unspoken agreements" between government and the wealthy to the effect of "the law doesn't apply to you" are fairly common, if you'd noticed.
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| From | Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> |
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| Date | 2017-02-07 06:32 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: OT: Wow! Reason returns to law and order... |
| Message-ID | <o7bplk$q6i$1@gonzo.alcatraz> |
| In reply to | #446542 |
On 2017-02-07, Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> wrote: > On 2/6/2017 5:54 PM, bitrex wrote: >> On 02/06/2017 07:49 PM, Jim Thompson wrote: >>> On Mon, 6 Feb 2017 16:37:16 -0800 (PST), "nuny@bid.nes" >>> <Alien8752@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> On Monday, February 6, 2017 at 3:29:41 PM UTC-8, Jim Thompson wrote: >>>>> OT: Wow! Reason returns to law and order... >>>>> >>>>> <http://tinyurl.com/htf4sk6> >>>>> >>>>> (I only set off smoke bombs when I was in middle school, 1952-1955; >>>>> principal confiscated my supply, returned them to me at the end of the >>>>> day, and told me never to do it again, or else. Nice guy... named >>>>> William Boyd... we called him Hopalong ;-) >>>> >>>> My favorite bit is at the end of his opinion: >>>> >>>> "Often enough the law can be “a ass — a idiot,” Charles Dickens, Oliver >>>> Twist 520 (Dodd, Mead & Co. 1941) (1838) — and there is little we judges can >>>> do about it, for it is (or should be) emphatically our job to apply, not >>>> rewrite, the law enacted by the people’s representatives." >>>> >>>> That's probably enough to enrage the extreme Lefties right there. I haven't seen any complaints. >> Who's the bigger idiot? The idiotic law or the idiot who follows it? > > If you don't like the law, work to have it changed. > > But, selectively following laws because you think them "inappropriate" > lies the way of anarchy. Ignoring inapropriate laws is one way of working to have them changed. see "civil disobediance" and "Jury nullification" > Should I have to come to a complete stop when I approach a 4-way stop > at 3AM and there are no cars in evidence for a mile or more in ALL > DIRECTIONS? So, no cops :) Still, you don't want to hit a cyclist or a pedestrian. -- This email has not been checked by half-arsed antivirus software
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| From | bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> |
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| Date | 2017-02-06 19:58 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: OT: Wow! Reason returns to law and order... |
| Message-ID | <hZ8mA.3$ZQ5.0@fx22.iad> |
| In reply to | #446527 |
On 02/06/2017 07:37 PM, nuny@bid.nes wrote: > On Monday, February 6, 2017 at 3:29:41 PM UTC-8, Jim Thompson wrote: >> OT: Wow! Reason returns to law and order... >> >> <http://tinyurl.com/htf4sk6> >> >> (I only set off smoke bombs when I was in middle school, 1952-1955; >> principal confiscated my supply, returned them to me at the end of the >> day, and told me never to do it again, or else. Nice guy... named >> William Boyd... we called him Hopalong ;-) > > My favorite bit is at the end of his opinion: > > "Often enough the law can be “a ass — a idiot,” Charles Dickens, Oliver Twist 520 (Dodd, Mead & Co. 1941) (1838) — and there is little we judges can do about it, for it is (or should be) emphatically our job to apply, not rewrite, the law enacted by the people’s representatives." > > That's probably enough to enrage the extreme Lefties right there. > > > Mark L. Fergerson > A society where some group or other gets the laws written just the way they like 'em, and then every legal body enforces the letter of the law with clockwork precision is not a free society, it's called a fascist state, dude.
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| From | bill.sloman@ieee.org |
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| Date | 2017-02-06 17:01 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <6af0102c-727b-4c16-b3f6-8467570892f5@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #446527 |
On Tuesday, February 7, 2017 at 11:37:20 AM UTC+11, nu...@bid.nes wrote: > On Monday, February 6, 2017 at 3:29:41 PM UTC-8, Jim Thompson wrote: > > OT: Wow! Reason returns to law and order... > > > > <http://tinyurl.com/htf4sk6> > > > > (I only set off smoke bombs when I was in middle school, 1952-1955; > > principal confiscated my supply, returned them to me at the end of the > > day, and told me never to do it again, or else. Nice guy... named > > William Boyd... we called him Hopalong ;-) > > My favorite bit is at the end of his opinion: > > "Often enough the law can be “a ass — a idiot,” Charles Dickens, Oliver Twist 520 (Dodd, Mead & Co. 1941) (1838) — and there is little we judges can do about it, for it is (or should be) emphatically our job to apply, not rewrite, the law enacted by the people’s representatives." > > That's probably enough to enrage the extreme Lefties right there. Not mention the extreme righties, who keep on rewriting abortion law, and seeing their amendments getting thrown out by the courts. The last case of that I recall would have been in Texas. Extremists don't write good laws. -- Bill Sloman, Sydney
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| From | bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> |
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| Date | 2017-02-06 20:06 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: OT: Wow! Reason returns to law and order... |
| Message-ID | <I49mA.2$VV2.0@fx33.iad> |
| In reply to | #446544 |
On 02/06/2017 08:01 PM, bill.sloman@ieee.org wrote: > On Tuesday, February 7, 2017 at 11:37:20 AM UTC+11, nu...@bid.nes wrote: >> On Monday, February 6, 2017 at 3:29:41 PM UTC-8, Jim Thompson wrote: >>> OT: Wow! Reason returns to law and order... >>> >>> <http://tinyurl.com/htf4sk6> >>> >>> (I only set off smoke bombs when I was in middle school, 1952-1955; >>> principal confiscated my supply, returned them to me at the end of the >>> day, and told me never to do it again, or else. Nice guy... named >>> William Boyd... we called him Hopalong ;-) >> >> My favorite bit is at the end of his opinion: >> >> "Often enough the law can be “a ass — a idiot,” Charles Dickens, Oliver Twist 520 (Dodd, Mead & Co. 1941) (1838) — and there is little we judges can do about it, for it is (or should be) emphatically our job to apply, not rewrite, the law enacted by the people’s representatives." >> >> That's probably enough to enrage the extreme Lefties right there. > > Not mention the extreme righties, who keep on rewriting abortion law, and seeing their amendments getting thrown out by the courts. The last case of that I recall would have been in Texas. > > Extremists don't write good laws. > They can write good laws to support a single-party White state, which is what all the rationalizing and dissembling about sticking to the letter of the law is about. Once you got one of those you definitely wouldn't want anyone to be able to change it on a wihm.
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| From | bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> |
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| Date | 2017-02-06 20:11 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: OT: Wow! Reason returns to law and order... |
| Message-ID | <K89mA.2$Pg3.1@fx42.iad> |
| In reply to | #446548 |
On 02/06/2017 08:06 PM, bitrex wrote: > On 02/06/2017 08:01 PM, bill.sloman@ieee.org wrote: >> On Tuesday, February 7, 2017 at 11:37:20 AM UTC+11, nu...@bid.nes wrote: >>> On Monday, February 6, 2017 at 3:29:41 PM UTC-8, Jim Thompson wrote: >>>> OT: Wow! Reason returns to law and order... >>>> >>>> <http://tinyurl.com/htf4sk6> >>>> >>>> (I only set off smoke bombs when I was in middle school, 1952-1955; >>>> principal confiscated my supply, returned them to me at the end of the >>>> day, and told me never to do it again, or else. Nice guy... named >>>> William Boyd... we called him Hopalong ;-) >>> >>> My favorite bit is at the end of his opinion: >>> >>> "Often enough the law can be “a ass — a idiot,” Charles Dickens, >>> Oliver Twist 520 (Dodd, Mead & Co. 1941) (1838) — and there is little >>> we judges can do about it, for it is (or should be) emphatically our >>> job to apply, not rewrite, the law enacted by the people’s >>> representatives." >>> >>> That's probably enough to enrage the extreme Lefties right there. >> >> Not mention the extreme righties, who keep on rewriting abortion law, >> and seeing their amendments getting thrown out by the courts. The last >> case of that I recall would have been in Texas. >> >> Extremists don't write good laws. >> > > They can write good laws to support a single-party White state, which is > what all the rationalizing and dissembling about sticking to the letter > of the law is about. > > Once you got one of those you definitely wouldn't want anyone to be able > to change it on a wihm. The amusing thing is that they think Trump is the guy who's gonna make it happen, when pretty much any other random WN you could hire off Stormfront.org would be more qualified.
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| From | John Larkin <jjlarkinxyxy@highlandtechnology.com> |
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| Date | 2017-02-06 17:42 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <dc9i9cptc1ps06dlu5tp44099ikntrftmg@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #446501 |
On Mon, 06 Feb 2017 16:29:30 -0700, Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote: >OT: Wow! Reason returns to law and order... > ><http://tinyurl.com/htf4sk6> > >(I only set off smoke bombs when I was in middle school, 1952-1955; >principal confiscated my supply, returned them to me at the end of the >day, and told me never to do it again, or else. Nice guy... named >William Boyd... we called him Hopalong ;-) > > ...Jim Thompson When I was a baby, I was so cute that Hopalong Cassidy, on a horse, stopped a Mardi Gras parade to pick me up and kiss me. -- John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc picosecond timing precision measurement jlarkin att highlandtechnology dott com http://www.highlandtechnology.com
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| From | mixed nuts <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> |
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| Date | 2017-02-07 10:03 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: OT: Wow! Reason returns to law and order... |
| Message-ID | <o7cnks$m8$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #446501 |
On 2/6/2017 6:29 PM, Jim Thompson wrote: > OT: Wow! Reason returns to law and order... > > <http://tinyurl.com/htf4sk6> > > (I only set off smoke bombs when I was in middle school, 1952-1955; > principal confiscated my supply, returned them to me at the end of the > day, and told me never to do it again, or else. Nice guy... named > William Boyd... we called him Hopalong ;-) No pepper spray and beat-down with a tactical grade flashlight? No helicopters? No armored rescue vehicles with quad 50s sticking out the roof? Sounds like Mr. Boyd was one of those progressive-socialists who do not support and respect the police who keep us safe. -- Grizzly H.
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| From | John Larkin <jjlarkinxyxy@highlandtechnology.com> |
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| Date | 2017-02-07 11:10 -0800 |
| Subject | Re: OT: Wow! Reason returns to law and order... |
| Message-ID | <up6k9chdsd1tojggm3aqjtd7hg21b0e2l1@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #446640 |
On Tue, 7 Feb 2017 10:03:53 -0500, mixed nuts <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> wrote: >On 2/6/2017 6:29 PM, Jim Thompson wrote: >> OT: Wow! Reason returns to law and order... >> >> <http://tinyurl.com/htf4sk6> >> >> (I only set off smoke bombs when I was in middle school, 1952-1955; >> principal confiscated my supply, returned them to me at the end of the >> day, and told me never to do it again, or else. Nice guy... named >> William Boyd... we called him Hopalong ;-) > >No pepper spray and beat-down with a tactical grade flashlight? No >helicopters? No armored rescue vehicles with quad 50s sticking out the >roof? > >Sounds like Mr. Boyd was one of those progressive-socialists who do not >support and respect the police who keep us safe. In those days, kids could buy chemicals (potassium nitrate, iodine, whatever) and make things that go bang. It was normal. -- John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc picosecond timing precision measurement jlarkin att highlandtechnology dott com http://www.highlandtechnology.com
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| From | Lasse Langwadt Christensen <langwadt@fonz.dk> |
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| Date | 2017-02-07 12:40 -0800 |
| Subject | Re: OT: Wow! Reason returns to law and order... |
| Message-ID | <5435465f-337e-43b2-a728-39e4e8173243@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #446671 |
Den tirsdag den 7. februar 2017 kl. 20.10.47 UTC+1 skrev John Larkin: > On Tue, 7 Feb 2017 10:03:53 -0500, mixed nuts > <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> wrote: > > >On 2/6/2017 6:29 PM, Jim Thompson wrote: > >> OT: Wow! Reason returns to law and order... > >> > >> <http://tinyurl.com/htf4sk6> > >> > >> (I only set off smoke bombs when I was in middle school, 1952-1955; > >> principal confiscated my supply, returned them to me at the end of the > >> day, and told me never to do it again, or else. Nice guy... named > >> William Boyd... we called him Hopalong ;-) > > > >No pepper spray and beat-down with a tactical grade flashlight? No > >helicopters? No armored rescue vehicles with quad 50s sticking out the > >roof? > > > >Sounds like Mr. Boyd was one of those progressive-socialists who do not > >support and respect the police who keep us safe. > > In those days, kids could buy chemicals (potassium nitrate, iodine, > whatever) and make things that go bang. It was normal. > https://youtu.be/CeqklIUV5bE?t=3m26s
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| From | Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> |
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| Date | 2017-02-07 14:51 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: OT: Wow! Reason returns to law and order... |
| Message-ID | <85gk9c9bnoms6l3hr10742e7i5lt5betvd@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #446680 |
On Tue, 7 Feb 2017 12:40:40 -0800 (PST), Lasse Langwadt Christensen
<langwadt@fonz.dk> wrote:
>Den tirsdag den 7. februar 2017 kl. 20.10.47 UTC+1 skrev John Larkin:
>> On Tue, 7 Feb 2017 10:03:53 -0500, mixed nuts
>> <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> wrote:
>>
>> >On 2/6/2017 6:29 PM, Jim Thompson wrote:
>> >> OT: Wow! Reason returns to law and order...
>> >>
>> >> <http://tinyurl.com/htf4sk6>
>> >>
>> >> (I only set off smoke bombs when I was in middle school, 1952-1955;
>> >> principal confiscated my supply, returned them to me at the end of the
>> >> day, and told me never to do it again, or else. Nice guy... named
>> >> William Boyd... we called him Hopalong ;-)
>> >
>> >No pepper spray and beat-down with a tactical grade flashlight? No
>> >helicopters? No armored rescue vehicles with quad 50s sticking out the
>> >roof?
>> >
>> >Sounds like Mr. Boyd was one of those progressive-socialists who do not
>> >support and respect the police who keep us safe.
"Mixed nuts"? What's that, some kind of transvestite ?>:-}
>>
>> In those days, kids could buy chemicals (potassium nitrate, iodine,
>> whatever) and make things that go bang. It was normal.
>>
>
>https://youtu.be/CeqklIUV5bE?t=3m26s
Potassium Permanganate and Glycerin was my favorite combination >:-}
...Jim Thompson
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| From | mixed nuts <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> |
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| Date | 2017-02-08 00:25 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: OT: Wow! Reason returns to law and order... |
| Message-ID | <o7ea3h$eos$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #446690 |
On 2/7/2017 4:51 PM, Jim Thompson wrote: > On Tue, 7 Feb 2017 12:40:40 -0800 (PST), Lasse Langwadt Christensen > <langwadt@fonz.dk> wrote: >> Den tirsdag den 7. februar 2017 kl. 20.10.47 UTC+1 skrev John Larkin: >>> On Tue, 7 Feb 2017 10:03:53 -0500, mixed nuts >>> <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> wrote: >>>> On 2/6/2017 6:29 PM, Jim Thompson wrote: >>>>> OT: Wow! Reason returns to law and order... >>>>> >>>>> <http://tinyurl.com/htf4sk6> >>>>> >>>>> (I only set off smoke bombs when I was in middle school, 1952-1955; >>>>> principal confiscated my supply, returned them to me at the end of the >>>>> day, and told me never to do it again, or else. Nice guy... named >>>>> William Boyd... we called him Hopalong ;-) >>>> >>>> No pepper spray and beat-down with a tactical grade flashlight? No >>>> helicopters? No armored rescue vehicles with quad 50s sticking out the >>>> roof? >>>> >>>> Sounds like Mr. Boyd was one of those progressive-socialists who do not >>>> support and respect the police who keep us safe. > > "Mixed nuts"? What's that, some kind of transvestite ?>:-} Full name: "Deluxe Mixed Nuts" (no peanuts). You may get an almond, you may get a hazelnut, you may get a cashew or a walnut - there's just no way to tell. Life is just a sack of nuts. meow. >>> In those days, kids could buy chemicals (potassium nitrate, iodine, >>> whatever) and make things that go bang. It was normal. I liked Picric Acid - not as touchy as mercury fulminate but less toxic and just kablamy enough to kick off the next stage of the party. Also, I quite enjoyed dipping cotton or paper into nitric acid and rinsing and dipping again and rinsing and drying it - very therapeutic on an otherwise boring summer afternoon. More bang, less residue. I preferred ammonium nitrate for the same reason. Plus, it could be used to perk up the tomato patch or loosen stumps. >> https://youtu.be/CeqklIUV5bE?t=3m26s > > Potassium Permanganate and Glycerin was my favorite combination >:-} I liked filling up a large balloon with hydrogen and oxygen and letting it rise into the air until the actuating mechanism (sometimes electrical, sometimes chemical) actuated. The balloon filling apparatus could be also be used to feed a water torch. -- Grizzly H.
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