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  OT: Hillary's ostracised step-son speaks out Julian Barnes <jb9889@notformail.com> - 2016-11-02 22:27 +0000
    Re: OT: Julian Barnes finds another improbable story just before the election bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2016-11-02 18:59 -0700
      Re: OT: Julian Barnes finds another improbable story just before the election M Philbrook <jamie_ka1lpa@charter.net> - 2016-11-02 23:00 -0500
        Re: OT: Julian Barnes finds another improbable story just before the election bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2016-11-02 20:40 -0700
          Re: OT: Julian Barnes finds another improbable story just before the election Cursitor Doom <curd@notformail.com> - 2016-11-03 16:11 +0000
            Re: OT: Julian Barnes finds another improbable story just before the election bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2016-11-03 20:39 -0700
            Re: OT: Julian Barnes finds another improbable story just before the election bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> - 2016-11-06 02:53 -0500
              Re: OT: Julian Barnes finds another improbable story just before the election bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2016-11-06 05:24 -0800
        Re: OT: Julian Barnes finds another improbable story just before the election David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2016-11-03 08:10 +0100
        Re: OT: Hillary's rejected step-son speaks out Cursitor Doom <curd@notformail.com> - 2016-11-03 15:35 +0000
          Re: OT: Hillary's rejected step-son speaks out David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2016-11-03 17:05 +0100
            Re: OT: Hillary's rejected step-son speaks out Cursitor Doom <curd@notformail.com> - 2016-11-03 17:20 +0000
              Re: OT: Hillary's rejected step-son speaks out Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2016-11-03 10:32 -0700
                Re: OT: Hillary's rejected step-son speaks out Cursitor Doom <curd@notformail.com> - 2016-11-03 19:23 +0000
                  Re: OT: Hillary's rejected step-son speaks out bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2016-11-03 20:47 -0700
                    Re: OT: Hillary's rejected step-son speaks out Cursitor Doom <curd@notformail.com> - 2016-11-04 09:57 +0000
                      Re: OT: Hillary's rejected step-son speaks out bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2016-11-04 06:30 -0700
                        Re: OT: Hillary's rejected step-son speaks out Cursitor Doom <curd@notformail.com> - 2016-11-04 13:49 +0000
                          Re: OT: Hillary's rejected step-son speaks out bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2016-11-04 18:08 -0700
              Re: OT: Hillary's rejected step-son speaks out David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2016-11-04 10:17 +0100
            Re: OT: Hillary's rejected step-son speaks out bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2016-11-03 20:44 -0700
              Re: OT: Hillary's rejected step-son speaks out Cursitor Doom <curd@notformail.com> - 2016-11-04 09:59 +0000
                Re: OT: Hillary's rejected step-son speaks out bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2016-11-04 06:29 -0700
                  Re: OT: Hillary's rejected step-son speaks out Cursitor Doom <curd@notformail.com> - 2016-11-04 13:58 +0000
                    Re: OT: Hillary's rejected step-son speaks out Spehro Pefhany <speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> - 2016-11-04 18:19 -0400
                      Re: OT: Hillary's rejected step-son speaks out Julian Barnes <jb9889@notformail.com> - 2016-11-04 23:48 +0000
                        Re: OT: Hillary's rejected step-son speaks out bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2016-11-04 18:33 -0700
                    Re: OT: Hillary's rejected step-son speaks out bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2016-11-04 18:22 -0700
                Re: OT: Hillary's rejected step-son speaks out M Philbrook <jamie_ka1lpa@charter.net> - 2016-11-04 19:34 -0500
    Re: OT: Hillary's ostracised step-son speaks out Bob Engelhardt <BobEngelhardt@comcast.net> - 2016-11-02 22:17 -0400
      Re: OT: Hillary's ostracised non-step-son speaks out bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2016-11-02 19:27 -0700
      Re: OT: Hillary's ostracised step-son speaks out Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2016-11-02 19:32 -0700
        Re: OT: Hillary's ostracised step-son speaks out bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2016-11-02 20:59 -0700
        Re: OT: Hillary's ostracised step-son speaks out "Tom Del Rosso" <fizzbintuesday@that-google-mail-domain.com> - 2016-11-05 12:19 -0400
          Re: OT: Hillary's ostracised step-son speaks out Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2016-11-05 09:54 -0700

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#433535 — OT: Hillary's ostracised step-son speaks out

Ever heard of Danney Williams? No? Thought not. He is Bill Clinton's 
illegitimate son from a casual relationship with a black woman way back 
in Little Rock, Arkansas. At first, Bill faced up to his responsibilities 
as a father - up to a point, at least. He sent money to Danney's mother 
every month so she wouldn't have to work 3 jobs to provide for Danney and 
his siblings. But then suddenly one day the money just stopped. Hillary 
had laid down the law to Bill. She felt that he had to distance himself 
from Danney and his mother lest it should interfere with their political 
ambitions and the couple's climb to the highest circles of Washington's 
elite. Hillary has a tremendously strong personality and she got her own 
way on this one, as she usually did, despite Bill's misgivings. But of 
course Danney had to grow up with the prospect of never becoming 
reconciled with his father for the simple reason that Hillary would never 
countenance the possibility lest it damage their public image.
Learn about Danney Williams' long struggle to be re-united with his 
father and to prove paternity in this personal and very emotional press 
conference recorded earlier today:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YKZQQSpf1w&feature=youtu.be

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#433564 — Re: OT: Julian Barnes finds another improbable story just before the election

On Thursday, November 3, 2016 at 9:27:48 AM UTC+11, Julian Barnes wrote:

<snip>

The revised subject line says it all.

-- 
Bill Sloman, Sydney

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#433576 — Re: OT: Julian Barnes finds another improbable story just before the election

In article <bab006ef-5c61-4a81-82b7-fcda610d0630@googlegroups.com>, 
bill.sloman@ieee.org says...
> 
> On Thursday, November 3, 2016 at 9:27:48 AM UTC+11, Julian Barnes wrote:
> 
> <snip>
> 
> The revised subject line says it all.
what's that? That you're an ass?

 it's our country not yours. keep your nose out of it.
 
 
Jamie

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#433580 — Re: OT: Julian Barnes finds another improbable story just before the election

On Thursday, November 3, 2016 at 1:53:11 PM UTC+11, M Philbrook wrote:
> In article <bab006ef-5c61-4a81-82b7-fcda610d0630@googlegroups.com>, 
> bill.sloman@ieee.org says...
> > 
> > On Thursday, November 3, 2016 at 9:27:48 AM UTC+11, Julian Barnes wrote:
> > 
> > <snip>
> > 
> > The revised subject line says it all.
> what's that? That you're an ass?

Since somebody looked up Snopes and found that the putative step-son had failed a paternity test in 1999, Julian Barnes is the ass. You are too, but we've known that for years.
 
> It's our country not yours. Keep your nose out of it.

If it was a bit less influential in our country, or a bit better run, we'd be less interested.

-- 
Bill Sloman, Sydney

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#433646 — Re: OT: Julian Barnes finds another improbable story just before the election

On Wed, 02 Nov 2016 20:40:49 -0700, bill.sloman wrote:

> On Thursday, November 3, 2016 at 1:53:11 PM UTC+11, M Philbrook wrote:

> Since somebody looked up Snopes and found that the putative step-son had
> failed a paternity test in 1999, Julian Barnes is the ass. You are too,
> but we've known that for years.

Snopes is just another Clinton mouthpiece like your precious NYT, Bill.

>  
>> It's our country not yours. Keep your nose out of it.
> 
> If it was a bit less influential in our country, or a bit better run,
> we'd be less interested.

If you were *genuinely* concerned about that though, you'd be wanting 
Trump to win, since as you've admitted yourself, he's not a foreign 
interventionist. He believes in the self-determination and sovereignty of 
the nation state (including Australia). You, on the other hand, somehow 
find that to be a threat to your putrid dream of global government and a 
borderless world where any undesirable can invite themselves into another 
territory and rape and pillage the inhabitants at will (as we see in your 
precious Sweden right now). Your a bit, fat, phoney, Bill.

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#433804 — Re: OT: Julian Barnes finds another improbable story just before the election

On Friday, November 4, 2016 at 3:11:41 AM UTC+11, Cursitor Doom wrote:
> On Wed, 02 Nov 2016 20:40:49 -0700, bill.sloman wrote:
> 
> > On Thursday, November 3, 2016 at 1:53:11 PM UTC+11, M Philbrook wrote:
> 
> > Since somebody looked up Snopes and found that the putative step-son had
> > failed a paternity test in 1999, Julian Barnes is the ass. You are too,
> > but we've known that for years.
> 
> Snopes is just another Clinton mouthpiece like your precious NYT, Bill.

The fact that the putative step-son failed a paternity test was reported Time magazine on 18 July 1999.

Time Magazine isn't usually seen as a Clinton mouthpiece.
  
> >> It's our country not yours. Keep your nose out of it.
> > 
> > If it was a bit less influential in our country, or a bit better run,
> > we'd be less interested.
> 
> If you were *genuinely* concerned about that though, you'd be wanting 
> Trump to win, since as you've admitted yourself, he's not a foreign 
> interventionist. He believes in the self-determination and sovereignty of 
> the nation state (including Australia). You, on the other hand, somehow 
> find that to be a threat to your putrid dream of global government and a 
> borderless world where any undesirable can invite themselves into another 
> territory and rape and pillage the inhabitants at will (as we see in your 
> precious Sweden right now). Your a bit, fat, phoney, Bill.

I'm afraid it's you that is the phoney. Trump wants to dismantle the  ANZUS and the Trans Pacific free trade agreement, neither being an idea which appeals to  the Australian government.

Any rape and pillage in Sweden is presumably being staged for the photographers of the Daily Express. None of the reputable newspapers around here is reporting anything of the sort. The Brexit promoters did well out of encouraging anti-immigrant anxieties in the UK, but you should have noticed that you were being gulled back then and you should recognise that that you are being gulled now, but Cursitor Doom is much too fond of his gullibility and the thrill he gets whenever it gets fed to actually think about what he's being told, let alone why he's being told it.

-- 
Bill Sloman, Sydney

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#434058 — Re: OT: Julian Barnes finds another improbable story just before the election

On 11/03/2016 12:11 PM, Cursitor Doom wrote:

> If you were *genuinely* concerned about that though, you'd be wanting
> Trump to win, since as you've admitted yourself, he's not a foreign
> interventionist. He believes in the self-determination and sovereignty of
> the nation state (including Australia). You, on the other hand, somehow
> find that to be a threat to your putrid dream of global government and a
> borderless world where any undesirable can invite themselves into another
> territory and rape and pillage the inhabitants at will (as we see in your
> precious Sweden right now). Your a bit, fat, phoney, Bill.

Oh, oh, save all the white women, please! We must defend their honor 
from the onslaught of the dusky hordes!

lol

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#434062 — Re: OT: Julian Barnes finds another improbable story just before the election

On Sunday, November 6, 2016 at 6:53:08 PM UTC+11, bitrex wrote:
> On 11/03/2016 12:11 PM, Cursitor Doom wrote:
> 
> > If you were *genuinely* concerned about that though, you'd be wanting
> > Trump to win, since as you've admitted yourself, he's not a foreign
> > interventionist. He believes in the self-determination and sovereignty of
> > the nation state (including Australia). You, on the other hand, somehow
> > find that to be a threat to your putrid dream of global government and a
> > borderless world where any undesirable can invite themselves into another
> > territory and rape and pillage the inhabitants at will (as we see in your
> > precious Sweden right now). Your a bit, fat, phoney, Bill.
> 
> Oh, oh, save all the white women, please! We must defend their honor 
> from the onslaught of the dusky hordes!


With Trump around, the dusky hordes have to go to the back of the queue.

-- 
Bill Sloman, Sydney

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#433592 — Re: OT: Julian Barnes finds another improbable story just before the election

On 03/11/16 05:00, M Philbrook wrote:
> In article <bab006ef-5c61-4a81-82b7-fcda610d0630@googlegroups.com>, 
> bill.sloman@ieee.org says...
>>
>> On Thursday, November 3, 2016 at 9:27:48 AM UTC+11, Julian Barnes wrote:
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>> The revised subject line says it all.
> what's that? That you're an ass?
> 
>  it's our country not yours. keep your nose out of it.
>  

If you don't want an international discussion, don't discuss things in
an international newsgroup!

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#433633 — Re: OT: Hillary's rejected step-son speaks out

On Wed, 02 Nov 2016 23:00:28 -0500, M Philbrook wrote:

> In article <bab006ef-5c61-4a81-82b7-fcda610d0630@googlegroups.com>,
> bill.sloman@ieee.org says...
>> 
>> On Thursday, November 3, 2016 at 9:27:48 AM UTC+11, Julian Barnes
>> wrote:
>> 
>> <snip>
>> 
>> The revised subject line says it all.
> what's that? That you're an ass?
> 
>  it's our country not yours. keep your nose out of it.

There's one thing I personally cannot stand and that is when someone 
steps in to prevent a child from seeing its parent or parents. That 
*really* stinks. Normally it's done out of some petty sense of revenge to 
punish a former partner, but in this case it seems clear Hillary did it 
so it wouldn't impede her and Bill's path to the White House. Now *that* 
is even more disgusting and unforgivable than the revenge motive IMB.
Danny seems a fine and decent young man. I hope Hillary sees sense for 
once and lets him see his dad again.

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#433644 — Re: OT: Hillary's rejected step-son speaks out

On 03/11/16 16:35, Cursitor Doom wrote:
> On Wed, 02 Nov 2016 23:00:28 -0500, M Philbrook wrote:
> 
>> In article <bab006ef-5c61-4a81-82b7-fcda610d0630@googlegroups.com>,
>> bill.sloman@ieee.org says...
>>>
>>> On Thursday, November 3, 2016 at 9:27:48 AM UTC+11, Julian Barnes
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> <snip>
>>>
>>> The revised subject line says it all.
>> what's that? That you're an ass?
>>
>>  it's our country not yours. keep your nose out of it.
> 
> There's one thing I personally cannot stand and that is when someone 
> steps in to prevent a child from seeing its parent or parents. That 
> *really* stinks. Normally it's done out of some petty sense of revenge to 
> punish a former partner, but in this case it seems clear Hillary did it 
> so it wouldn't impede her and Bill's path to the White House. Now *that* 
> is even more disgusting and unforgivable than the revenge motive IMB.
> Danny seems a fine and decent young man. I hope Hillary sees sense for 
> once and lets him see his dad again.
> 

We are not talking about a kid here - he is a 30 year old criminal who
has recently got out of jail.  And the only "evidence" that he is BC's
son is his own claims, along with the claims of his mother (who was a
prostitute at the time).  Now, it is quite possible for a prostitute to
tell the truth - but we are not talking about credible or reliable
witnesses here, and they are not exactly disinterested parities.

Until there is a solid undeniable DNA test proving BC is the "kid's"
father, the reasonable assumption is that this is just a gold-digger who
has been encouraged by Trump fans.

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#433664 — Re: OT: Hillary's rejected step-son speaks out

On Thu, 03 Nov 2016 17:05:10 +0100, David Brown wrote:

> Until there is a solid undeniable DNA test proving BC is the "kid's"
> father, the reasonable assumption is that this is just a gold-digger who
> has been encouraged by Trump fans.

Fair comment on the face of it... BUT if that's the case, why has Bill 
Clinton always refused to provide a sample? Why is this young man being 
forced to subpoena the authorities for a DNA analysis of the semen stains 
on Monica Lewinsky's dress??

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#433669 — Re: OT: Hillary's rejected step-son speaks out

On Thu, 3 Nov 2016 17:20:22 -0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom
<curd@notformail.com> wrote:

>On Thu, 03 Nov 2016 17:05:10 +0100, David Brown wrote:
>
>> Until there is a solid undeniable DNA test proving BC is the "kid's"
>> father, the reasonable assumption is that this is just a gold-digger who
>> has been encouraged by Trump fans.
>
>Fair comment on the face of it... BUT if that's the case, why has Bill 
>Clinton always refused to provide a sample? Why is this young man being 
>forced to subpoena the authorities for a DNA analysis of the semen stains 
>on Monica Lewinsky's dress??

I have no idea... Why ?>:-}
		
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#433708 — Re: OT: Hillary's rejected step-son speaks out

On Thu, 03 Nov 2016 10:32:16 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote:

> On Thu, 3 Nov 2016 17:20:22 -0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom

>>Fair comment on the face of it... BUT if that's the case, why has Bill
>>Clinton always refused to provide a sample? Why is this young man being
>>forced to subpoena the authorities for a DNA analysis of the semen
>>stains on Monica Lewinsky's dress??
> 
> I have no idea... Why ?>:-}

I'm sure Bill Sloman will come up with some astonishingly unsound reason 
for the refusal. You wait and see. ;->

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#433806 — Re: OT: Hillary's rejected step-son speaks out

On Friday, November 4, 2016 at 6:23:45 AM UTC+11, Cursitor Doom wrote:
> On Thu, 03 Nov 2016 10:32:16 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, 3 Nov 2016 17:20:22 -0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom
> 
> >>Fair comment on the face of it... BUT if that's the case, why has Bill
> >>Clinton always refused to provide a sample? Why is this young man being
> >>forced to subpoena the authorities for a DNA analysis of the semen
> >>stains on Monica Lewinsky's dress??
> > 
> > I have no idea... Why ?>:-}
> 
> I'm sure Bill Sloman will come up with some astonishingly unsound reason 
> for the refusal. You wait and see. ;->

Time Magazine reported on 18 July 1999 that a paternity had proved that Bill Clinton wasn't Danney Williams father.

It's probably not as unsound as you'd like, but there's nothing astonishing about refusing a second paternity test after an earlier one had demonstrated the absence of any relationship.

-- 
Bill Sloman, Sydney

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#433821 — Re: OT: Hillary's rejected step-son speaks out

On Thu, 03 Nov 2016 20:47:30 -0700, bill.sloman wrote:

> Time Magazine reported on 18 July 1999 that a paternity had proved that
> Bill Clinton wasn't Danney Williams father.

The fact you rely on Time magazine and rags like the NYT for your veritas 
and quote them here as honest brokers of reportage speaks volumes. They 
are both part of the Fourth Estate and about as 'independent' as a 6 
month old baby.

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#433838 — Re: OT: Hillary's rejected step-son speaks out

On Friday, November 4, 2016 at 8:57:37 PM UTC+11, Cursitor Doom wrote:
> On Thu, 03 Nov 2016 20:47:30 -0700, bill.sloman wrote:
> 
> > Time Magazine reported on 18 July 1999 that a paternity had proved that
> > Bill Clinton wasn't Danney Williams father.
> 
> The fact you rely on Time magazine and rags like the NYT for your veritas 
> and quote them here as honest brokers of reportage speaks volumes. They 
> are both part of the Fourth Estate and about as 'independent' as a 6 
> month old baby.

What Time Magazine published in 1999 isn't likely to have been designed to suit Hillary Clinton's convenience now.

The class of conspiracy theory that has legions of operatives modifying every back number of Time Magazine may not strike you as entirely implausible, but people with a less intimate knowledge of neuroleptics than you are probably more sceptical.

-- 
Bill Sloman, Sydney

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#433843 — Re: OT: Hillary's rejected step-son speaks out

On Fri, 04 Nov 2016 06:30:26 -0700, bill.sloman wrote:

> What Time Magazine published in 1999 isn't likely to have been designed
> to suit Hillary Clinton's convenience now.

I don't doubt that. It was designed to suit *Bill's* convenience back 
*then*. Surely even you can see that? Or perhaps not.

> The class of conspiracy theory that has legions of operatives modifying
> every back number of Time Magazine may not strike you as entirely
> implausible, but people with a less intimate knowledge of neuroleptics
> than you are probably more sceptical.

I never suggested any such thing. Your imagination running away with you 
again. Drop a few more Stelazines and go back to sleep FFS.

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#433933 — Re: OT: Hillary's rejected step-son speaks out

On Saturday, November 5, 2016 at 12:49:40 AM UTC+11, Cursitor Doom wrote:
> On Fri, 04 Nov 2016 06:30:26 -0700, bill.sloman wrote:
> 
> > What Time Magazine published in 1999 isn't likely to have been designed
> > to suit Hillary Clinton's convenience now.
> 
> I don't doubt that. It was designed to suit *Bill's* convenience back 
> *then*. Surely even you can see that? Or perhaps not.

Probably not. The Time's politics back then were thoroughly right of centre, but - unlike the Daily Express - they were careful of their credibility.
 
> > The class of conspiracy theory that has legions of operatives modifying
> > every back number of Time Magazine may not strike you as entirely
> > implausible, but people with a less intimate knowledge of neuroleptics
> > than you are probably more sceptical.
> 
> I never suggested any such thing. Your imagination running away with you 
> again. Drop a few more Stelazines and go back to sleep FFS.

My imagination isn't involved. The problem is that you imagine that you can write off a decade-old article in Time Magazine as media propaganda.

I can remember back when Stelazine was a new discovery, back in the 1970's.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trifluoperazine

It's a lot less fashionable now. If you are on it, get a new psychiatrist. My cousin practices in the US, and I wouldn't recommend him anyway - he did his Ph.D. on using lithium to treat manic-depression and moved on to the mental diseases of the elderly, and your problems seem to be more florid.

-- 
Bill Sloman, Sydney

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#433814 — Re: OT: Hillary's rejected step-son speaks out

On 03/11/16 18:20, Cursitor Doom wrote:
> On Thu, 03 Nov 2016 17:05:10 +0100, David Brown wrote:
> 
>> Until there is a solid undeniable DNA test proving BC is the "kid's"
>> father, the reasonable assumption is that this is just a gold-digger who
>> has been encouraged by Trump fans.
> 
> Fair comment on the face of it... BUT if that's the case, why has Bill 
> Clinton always refused to provide a sample? Why is this young man being 
> forced to subpoena the authorities for a DNA analysis of the semen stains 
> on Monica Lewinsky's dress??
> 

My guess is that it is because BC knows it is nonsense, and doesn't want
to waste the time, effort and publicity on the matter.  He is dealing
with it the same way celebrities usually deal with claims like this -
publicly ignore it or issue a simple statement calling it "absurd", and
let the lawyers deal with the details.

America would grind to a halt if every gold-digger's claims were given
credence and forced innocent people to /prove/ their innocence.  (BC has
probably done more than his fair share of naughty deeds, but I expect he
is innocent of this one.)  All you would need to do is claim to be the
long-lost son of whatever rich celebrity you liked, and insist on
dragging them through court cases (and the media) to subpoena samples
from them - or offer to settle out of court for a few $100K.

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