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Qualcomm in talks to acquire NXP

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  Qualcomm in talks to acquire NXP blocher@columbus.rr.com - 2016-09-29 16:59 -0700
    Re: Qualcomm in talks to acquire NXP "John Miles, KE5FX" <jmiles@gmail.com> - 2016-09-29 17:51 -0700
      Re: Qualcomm in talks to acquire NXP Winfield Hill <hill@rowland.harvard.edu> - 2016-09-30 05:50 -0700
        Re: Qualcomm in talks to acquire NXP Winfield Hill <hill@rowland.harvard.edu> - 2016-09-30 05:55 -0700
          Re: Qualcomm in talks to acquire NXP John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> - 2016-09-30 07:45 -0700
            Re: Qualcomm in talks to acquire NXP krw <krw@nowhere.com> - 2016-10-01 23:19 -0400
        Re: Qualcomm in talks to acquire NXP Chris Jones <lugnut808@spam.yahoo.com> - 2016-10-01 00:15 +1000
          Re: Qualcomm in talks to acquire NXP jack4747@gmail.com - 2016-09-30 07:20 -0700
            Re: Qualcomm in talks to acquire NXP Lasse Langwadt Christensen <langwadt@fonz.dk> - 2016-09-30 08:31 -0700
              Re: Qualcomm in talks to acquire NXP John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> - 2016-09-30 08:46 -0700
                Re: Qualcomm in talks to acquire NXP Winfield Hill <hill@rowland.harvard.edu> - 2016-09-30 12:37 -0700
                  Re: Qualcomm in talks to acquire NXP John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> - 2016-09-30 14:23 -0700
                  Re: Qualcomm in talks to acquire NXP Neon John <no@never.com> - 2016-10-01 10:47 -0400
                  Re: Qualcomm in talks to acquire NXP Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2016-10-01 11:52 -0700
                    Re: Qualcomm in talks to acquire NXP Spehro Pefhany <speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> - 2016-10-01 15:06 -0400
                      Re: Qualcomm in talks to acquire NXP Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2016-10-01 12:28 -0700
                      Re: Qualcomm in talks to acquire NXP krw <krw@nowhere.com> - 2016-10-01 23:21 -0400
                  Re: Qualcomm in talks to acquire NXP Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2016-10-02 14:21 -0700
          Re: Qualcomm in talks to acquire NXP Rob <nomail@example.com> - 2016-09-30 15:09 +0000
        Re: Qualcomm in talks to acquire NXP Spehro Pefhany <speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> - 2016-10-01 13:42 -0400
          Re: Qualcomm in talks to acquire NXP Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> - 2016-10-01 11:16 -0700
            Re: Qualcomm in talks to acquire NXP Spehro Pefhany <speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> - 2016-10-01 14:29 -0400
              Re: Qualcomm in talks to acquire NXP Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> - 2016-10-01 14:15 -0700
                Re: Qualcomm in talks to acquire NXP Winfield Hill <hill@rowland.harvard.edu> - 2016-10-01 14:52 -0700
                  Re: Qualcomm in talks to acquire NXP Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2016-10-01 15:12 -0700
                    Re: Qualcomm in talks to acquire NXP Winfield Hill <hill@rowland.harvard.edu> - 2016-10-01 16:09 -0700
                      Re: Qualcomm in talks to acquire NXP Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2016-10-01 16:11 -0700
                        Re: Qualcomm in talks to acquire NXP Winfield Hill <hill@rowland.harvard.edu> - 2016-10-02 09:00 -0700
                          Re: Qualcomm in talks to acquire NXP Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2016-10-02 09:11 -0700
                            Re: Qualcomm in talks to acquire NXP Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> - 2016-10-02 11:13 -0700
                  Re: Qualcomm in talks to acquire NXP Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> - 2016-10-01 15:23 -0700
                    Re: Qualcomm in talks to acquire NXP Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> - 2016-10-01 15:36 -0700
                      Re: Qualcomm in talks to acquire NXP Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> - 2016-10-01 15:48 -0700
                      Re: Qualcomm in talks to acquire NXP Winfield Hill <hill@rowland.harvard.edu> - 2016-10-01 16:08 -0700
                        Re: Qualcomm in talks to acquire NXP Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> - 2016-10-01 20:01 -0400
                        Re: Qualcomm in talks to acquire NXP Spehro Pefhany <speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> - 2016-10-02 10:10 -0400
        Re: Qualcomm in talks to acquire NXP krw <krw@nowhere.com> - 2016-10-01 23:17 -0400
      Re: Qualcomm in talks to acquire NXP John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> - 2016-09-30 08:44 -0700
        Re: Qualcomm in talks to acquire NXP "John Miles, KE5FX" <jmiles@gmail.com> - 2016-09-30 17:38 -0700
          Re: Qualcomm in talks to acquire NXP John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> - 2016-09-30 17:48 -0700
          Re: Qualcomm in talks to acquire NXP Winfield Hill <hill@rowland.harvard.edu> - 2016-09-30 18:45 -0700
            Re: Qualcomm in talks to acquire NXP "tom" <tmiller11147@verizon.net> - 2016-09-30 22:31 -0400
            Re: Qualcomm in talks to acquire NXP "John Miles, KE5FX" <jmiles@gmail.com> - 2016-09-30 20:15 -0700
            Re: Qualcomm in talks to acquire NXP Don Kuenz <g@crcomp.net> - 2016-10-03 15:12 +0000
        Re: Qualcomm in talks to acquire NXP Chris Jones <lugnut808@spam.yahoo.com> - 2016-10-03 14:56 +1100

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#430070

FromJeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
Date2016-10-01 11:16 -0700
Message-ID<sbuvubda1o3fo2t73pbnm8nc5ukcddqece@4ax.com>
In reply to#430063
On Sat, 01 Oct 2016 13:42:04 -0400, Spehro Pefhany
<speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote:

>I just strip the password protection with an Elcom app and save it. 

Ummmm....
<https://www.elcomsoft.com/apdfpr.html>
$50, $100, or $400 versions.
<https://www.elcomsoft.com/WP/guaranteed_password_recovery_for_adobe_acrobat_en.pdf>
Made in Russia.

The $50 version is rather basic and can take several days to crack a
basic 40 bit RC4 encrypted file.  256 bit AES encryption can take
forever.  The $100 version is better but lacks rainbow tables, which
really speeds things up.  For rainbow tables, you'll need the $400
version.

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#430072

FromSpehro Pefhany <speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat>
Date2016-10-01 14:29 -0400
Message-ID<7pvvub91hpouvbldtoo0let5rmlsobmkbd@4ax.com>
In reply to#430070
On Sat, 01 Oct 2016 11:16:15 -0700, the renowned Jeff Liebermann
<jeffl@cruzio.com> wrote:

>The $50 version is rather basic and can take several days to crack a
>basic 40 bit RC4 encrypted file.  256 bit AES encryption can take
>forever.  The $100 version is better but lacks rainbow tables, which
>really speeds things up.  For rainbow tables, you'll need the $400
>version.

Ouch. Most of them are 'instant'. I think the program is 8 or 10 years
old. It's certainly not worth $400 to me. 

--sp 

-- 
Best regards, 
Spehro Pefhany
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#430083

FromJeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
Date2016-10-01 14:15 -0700
Message-ID<kt80vblcehg67nphklbv0e996ejbnseoc4@4ax.com>
In reply to#430072
On Sat, 01 Oct 2016 14:29:21 -0400, Spehro Pefhany
<speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote:

>On Sat, 01 Oct 2016 11:16:15 -0700, the renowned Jeff Liebermann
><jeffl@cruzio.com> wrote:
>
>>The $50 version is rather basic and can take several days to crack a
>>basic 40 bit RC4 encrypted file.  256 bit AES encryption can take
>>forever.  The $100 version is better but lacks rainbow tables, which
>>really speeds things up.  For rainbow tables, you'll need the $400
>>version.

>Ouch. Most of them are 'instant'. I think the program is 8 or 10 years
>old. It's certainly not worth $400 to me. 
>--sp 

I have a customer that does computah forensics.  They have the
enterprise version, which they let me use when the need arises.  The
rainbow tables don't always produce spectacular results, such as when
the password is all symbols, but is a major improvement.

I just tried the trial version of the program:
<https://www.elcomsoft.com/download/apdfpr_setup_en.msi>
on one of the PDF test files I found at:
<http://www.novapdf.com/kb/pdf-example-files-created-with-novapdf-138.html>
The 2nd file, which is password protected, uses a not so clever
password = "test".  I ran the program with a dictionary attack and it
took about 3 seconds to find the password.  I then ran it with a brute
force attack, using all possible symbols except space, and it took
17.5 minutes.    On the brute force attack, some stats:
   Passwords to process  78,914,410
   Work time             17m 35s 725msec
   Average speed         74,749 passwords per second
Not too shabby methinks.  
I'm running a rather dated Dell Optiplex 960 3.1GHz E8500 Dual Core
with 4GB RAM and WinXP.

Can someone point me to an encrypted NXP data sheet so I can see if
and how it works?  I'll guess(tm) that NXP uses a rather primitive
encryption key, such as the part number backwards.  I dug through my
mess of saved data sheets and couldn't find any that were encrypted
and/or password protected.  Random downloads from the NXP web pile
didn't do any better.


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#430091

FromWinfield Hill <hill@rowland.harvard.edu>
Date2016-10-01 14:52 -0700
Message-ID<nspb7n0kho@drn.newsguy.com>
In reply to#430083
Jeff Liebermann wrote...
>
> Can someone point me to an encrypted NXP data sheet 

 My example was a simple Schottky diode, PMEG3010.
 I'm looking at rev 4 of the datasheet, dated 2007.
 I can give you hundreds of others if you need them.

 Most datasheet encryptions don't prevent you from
 seeing or printing the datasheet in toto; they
 prevent you from doing *any* of the other dozens
 of important ways to use a document. 

 I'm not sure what it's doing, but the program
 PDF Password Remover takes a fraction of a second.


-- 
 Thanks,
    - Win

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#430094

FromJim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com>
Date2016-10-01 15:12 -0700
Message-ID<a5d0vbtmbbs6f3ilsap60nmi9604mvfu0m@4ax.com>
In reply to#430091
On 1 Oct 2016 14:52:55 -0700, Winfield Hill <hill@rowland.harvard.edu>
wrote:

>Jeff Liebermann wrote...
>>
>> Can someone point me to an encrypted NXP data sheet 
>
> My example was a simple Schottky diode, PMEG3010.
> I'm looking at rev 4 of the datasheet, dated 2007.
> I can give you hundreds of others if you need them.
>
> Most datasheet encryptions don't prevent you from
> seeing or printing the datasheet in toto; they
> prevent you from doing *any* of the other dozens
> of important ways to use a document. 
>
> I'm not sure what it's doing, but the program
> PDF Password Remover takes a fraction of a second.

Have you found one where PDF Password Remover _doesn't_ work?
		
                                        ...Jim Thompson
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#430103

FromWinfield Hill <hill@rowland.harvard.edu>
Date2016-10-01 16:09 -0700
Message-ID<nspfmj0rsr@drn.newsguy.com>
In reply to#430094
Jim Thompson wrote...
>
> Winfield Hill wrote:
>>
>> I'm not sure what it's doing, but the program
>> PDF Password Remover takes a fraction of a second.
>
> Have you found one where PDF Password Remover _doesn't_ work?

 Only one, in a few hundred unlockings.


-- 
 Thanks,
    - Win

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#430104

FromJim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com>
Date2016-10-01 16:11 -0700
Message-ID<6kg0vble554ck7oc4hbh9bf6775gneuebs@4ax.com>
In reply to#430103
On 1 Oct 2016 16:09:07 -0700, Winfield Hill <hill@rowland.harvard.edu>
wrote:

>Jim Thompson wrote...
>>
>> Winfield Hill wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm not sure what it's doing, but the program
>>> PDF Password Remover takes a fraction of a second.
>>
>> Have you found one where PDF Password Remover _doesn't_ work?
>
> Only one, in a few hundred unlockings.

Can you E-mail a copy of that one to me?
		
                                        ...Jim Thompson
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#430146

FromWinfield Hill <hill@rowland.harvard.edu>
Date2016-10-02 09:00 -0700
Message-ID<nsravn01mdb@drn.newsguy.com>
In reply to#430104
Jim Thompson wrote...
> Winfield Hill wrote:
>>Jim Thompson wrote...
>>> Winfield Hill wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I'm not sure what it's doing, but the program
>>>> PDF Password Remover takes a fraction of a second.
>>>
>>> Have you found one where PDF Password Remover _doesn't_ work?
>>
>> Only one, in a few hundred unlockings.
>
> Can you E-mail a copy of that one to me?

 I have long since forgotten which one it was.
 It takes a few minutes to bring up the app,
 find and name the output file, etc., so I
 don't do it very often.  But I haven't
 encountered a failure in a long time.


-- 
 Thanks,
    - Win

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#430147

FromJim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com>
Date2016-10-02 09:11 -0700
Message-ID<abc2vb1335dt060rl0bm77ib821hootnkm@4ax.com>
In reply to#430146
On 2 Oct 2016 09:00:55 -0700, Winfield Hill <hill@rowland.harvard.edu>
wrote:

>Jim Thompson wrote...
>> Winfield Hill wrote:
>>>Jim Thompson wrote...
>>>> Winfield Hill wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm not sure what it's doing, but the program
>>>>> PDF Password Remover takes a fraction of a second.
>>>>
>>>> Have you found one where PDF Password Remover _doesn't_ work?
>>>
>>> Only one, in a few hundred unlockings.
>>
>> Can you E-mail a copy of that one to me?
>
> I have long since forgotten which one it was.
> It takes a few minutes to bring up the app,
> find and name the output file, etc., so I
> don't do it very often.  But I haven't
> encountered a failure in a long time.

When Jeff Liebermann wakes up he will announce a trivial solution ;-)
		
                                        ...Jim Thompson
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#430153

FromJeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
Date2016-10-02 11:13 -0700
Message-ID<q8f2vb1p4sl60kqjbr1tr3kcirg28sumtq@4ax.com>
In reply to#430147
On Sun, 02 Oct 2016 09:11:37 -0700, Jim Thompson
<To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote:

>When Jeff Liebermann wakes up he will announce a trivial solution ;-)		
>                                        ...Jim Thompson

Yawn, grumble, and thanks.  With inspiration provided by Jim Thomson,
I contrived a much easier way.  The problem is that it's not quite
what I expected and may not be suitable for everyone's needs.

Download and install Iranview and Irfanview plugins.
<http://www.irfanview.com>
Irfanview is a good free photo editor that can also handle PDFs via
plugins.  Here's how:

- Open the PDF file with Irfanview.
- "Save As" with a "Save as type" PDF.  
- Check the "Show Options Dialog" at the bottom of page.
- Hit "Save" button.
- A "Save PDF" dialog box will appear.  
- Under the "Security" tab, uncheck the "Activate Security" check box.
- Hit "Save" button and the view the PDF in Adobe Acrobat or whatever.

The owner password should be cleared in the resultant PDF.  You should
now be able to add annotations, sticky notes, and scribbles to the
data sheets with Irfanview (hit F12) or any PDF editor.

Some limitations, details, notes, ideas, and problems:

The process changes the text fonts to a bit mapped graphic, which
cannot be text edited.  The original NXP data sheet shows 8 fonts,
mostly Helvetica and Symbol.  The converted PDF show no fonts and is a
graphic.  The results are readable and printable, but of lower quality
than the original.  If this is a problem, you may do better with a
password cracker/remover program.

Since the converted page is a graphic, it is possible to use
PDF-Xchange Editor (free):
<https://www.tracker-software.com/product/pdf-xchange-editor>
Document -> OCR Pages
feature to recover making the document searchable.  The NXP data sheet
took about 6 minutes to OCR 11 pages.  

Under the "Save PDF" dialog, under the "Layout" tab, you can change
the page size from A4 to letter.  This is handy because I haven't
found a good way to change the document size for printing in Acrobat
or PDF-XChange viewers.

Under the "Save PDF" dialog, under the "Compression" tab, you may want
to adjust the image qualities.  I tried turning off compression, but
that expanded the original 78KByte file to about 28MBytes (with an OCR
text layer).

Irfanview can do batch processing.  
File -> Batch Conversion/Rename
I haven't tried this yet, but it might be possible to use this to
clear passwords from a directory full of PDF files.

Irfanview can be run from the command line:
<http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/10-useful-commandline-irfanview-tools-working-images/>
which can probably be used for batch processing.


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Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
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#430097

FromJeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
Date2016-10-01 15:23 -0700
Message-ID<ted0vb9ikprhqobpl0cmrb4lbidm5hm756@4ax.com>
In reply to#430091
On 1 Oct 2016 14:52:55 -0700, Winfield Hill <hill@rowland.harvard.edu>
wrote:

>Jeff Liebermann wrote...
>>
>> Can someone point me to an encrypted NXP data sheet 
>
> My example was a simple Schottky diode, PMEG3010.
> I'm looking at rev 4 of the datasheet, dated 2007.
> I can give you hundreds of others if you need them.

<http://www.nxp.com/documents/data_sheet/PMEGXX10BEA_PMEGXX10BEV.pdf>
The Elcomsoft demo program says that the "user passsword is empty..."
However, that's the 2004 version direct from the NXP web pile.  Got a
link to the 2007 version or a better example?

> Most datasheet encryptions don't prevent you from
> seeing or printing the datasheet in toto; they
> prevent you from doing *any* of the other dozens
> of important ways to use a document. 
>
> I'm not sure what it's doing, but the program
> PDF Password Remover takes a fraction of a second.

Dunno.  There are two passwords.  The owner and the user passwords.
Some programs, like Elcomsoft try to decrypt the password(s).  Others,
just remove it from the PDF.  My guess(tm) is that like the 2004
version, there is password.  

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#430098

FromJeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
Date2016-10-01 15:36 -0700
Message-ID<rtd0vb9j90o1d8lb5sts85vg0sv9ilk1er@4ax.com>
In reply to#430097
On Sat, 01 Oct 2016 15:23:03 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
wrote:

>On 1 Oct 2016 14:52:55 -0700, Winfield Hill <hill@rowland.harvard.edu>
>wrote:
>
>>Jeff Liebermann wrote...
>>>
>>> Can someone point me to an encrypted NXP data sheet 
>>
>> My example was a simple Schottky diode, PMEG3010.
>> I'm looking at rev 4 of the datasheet, dated 2007.
>> I can give you hundreds of others if you need them.
>
><http://www.nxp.com/documents/data_sheet/PMEGXX10BEA_PMEGXX10BEV.pdf>
>The Elcomsoft demo program says that the "user passsword is empty..."
>However, that's the 2004 version direct from the NXP web pile.  Got a
>link to the 2007 version or a better example?

Never mind.  I found the 2007 version on Octopart:
<http://datasheet.octopart.com/PMEG3010ET-NXP-datasheet-5392248.pdf>
Same problem.  It says "User password is empty so instant decryption
is possible".  I had no difficulty printing the first two pages of the
data sheet.  However, I was not able to add any annotations (using
PDF-Xchange Editor 5.5) because the document properties showed that
the owner password has been set (40 bit RC4).  The permission details
show that printing and content copying are allowed, but no changes to
the document, such as annotation.  I'm not sure why the Elcomsoft
program is only removing the user password, and not the owner, but
I'll see if I can figure it out.



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#430100

FromJeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
Date2016-10-01 15:48 -0700
Message-ID<hne0vbp60tqdebf9stqnhgk53u54b58gah@4ax.com>
In reply to#430098
On Sat, 01 Oct 2016 15:36:34 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
wrote:

>I'm not sure why the Elcomsoft
>program is only removing the user password, and not the owner, but
>I'll see if I can figure it out.

Duh... my fault.  Under the "advanced" tab, there is a choice to
decrypt the owner and/or user passwords.  I had the wrong one checked.
It's cranking right now using a brute force attack.  The demo has a
very small dictionary, so that didn't work.  Stay tuned to this
newsgroup for the latest episode of "DMCA violations made easy".

Oops (again).  The demo version is limited to passwords up to 4
characters in length.  The NXP data sheet probably has a longer
password, so this experiment isn't going to work.  I try it on the
real version later next week.  Sorry.

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Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
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#430102

FromWinfield Hill <hill@rowland.harvard.edu>
Date2016-10-01 16:08 -0700
Message-ID<nspfkk0rpk@drn.newsguy.com>
In reply to#430098
Jeff Liebermann wrote...
>
> I had no difficulty printing the first two pages of the
> data sheet. 

 Most locked security settings do allow printing.
 Otherwise they'd completely lose the customer!


-- 
 Thanks,
    - Win

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#430107

FromPhil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net>
Date2016-10-01 20:01 -0400
Message-ID<1a7cf8d6-51cc-7257-85e4-0ee6f2876ef4@electrooptical.net>
In reply to#430102
On 10/01/2016 07:08 PM, Winfield Hill wrote:
> Jeff Liebermann wrote...
>>
>> I had no difficulty printing the first two pages of the
>> data sheet.
>
>  Most locked security settings do allow printing.
>  Otherwise they'd completely lose the customer!
>
>
Well, in a pinch you can print it and then OCR.  Here's a shout-out to 
my fave OCR/document conversion site:

http://www.djvu.org/any2djvu

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

-- 
Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics

160 North State Road #203
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510

hobbs at electrooptical dot net
http://electrooptical.net

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#430141

FromSpehro Pefhany <speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat>
Date2016-10-02 10:10 -0400
Message-ID<5652vb9vufdavkk6dg06pha04g4qun81eh@4ax.com>
In reply to#430102
On 1 Oct 2016 16:08:04 -0700, the renowned Winfield Hill
<hill@rowland.harvard.edu> wrote:

>Jeff Liebermann wrote...
>>
>> I had no difficulty printing the first two pages of the
>> data sheet. 
>
> Most locked security settings do allow printing.
> Otherwise they'd completely lose the customer!

I guess that's the only thing that's keeping the lawyers at bay. 

They would probably prefer that each copy be strongly encrypted,
unprintable and each copy be watermarked in a way that is traceable to
an individual NDA. 

--sp 

-- 
Best regards, 
Spehro Pefhany
Amazon link for AoE 3rd Edition:            http://tinyurl.com/ntrpwu8

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#430128

Fromkrw <krw@nowhere.com>
Date2016-10-01 23:17 -0400
Message-ID<osu0vbl3ubl81luio5v2h7j3aibn703n5g@4ax.com>
In reply to#429891
On 30 Sep 2016 05:50:00 -0700, Winfield Hill
<hill@rowland.harvard.edu> wrote:

>John Miles, KE5FX wrote...
>>
>> Bummer.  Qualcomm is nothing but an overstaffed law firm
>> that occasionally sells semiconductors when they have
>> nothing better to do.  
>>
>> This is what happens if you post an online copy of a
>> 15-year old, publicly available data sheet for a
>> widely used part: http://www.ke5fx.com/usrc/q3236.pdf
>>
>> Oops, it looks like they missed one:
>> http://f1chf.free.fr/boite%20blanche/QUALCOMM/q3236.pdf
>>
>> Bunch of asshats.
>
> I've long been unhappy about public projects that
> chose to use a Qualcomm chip, because even basic
> information is kept unavailable.
>
> Lately NXP has been getting asshat inclinations, and
> locking datasheet pdf files, including many that have
> previously been released unlocked.  These files are
> locked with almost no permissions, so that you can't
> add a 'sticky-note' comment, extract a page for a
> report, or to help document a design, or do anything
> useful.  It's a snub in the face of the customer,
> and especially a slap to the face of an engineer
> who's trying to become a customer, dammit-all!

I've almost always been able to print the PDF to a PDF, then add any
notes I want to.  However, about 20% of these can't then be searched.
So, I end up with two copies.
>
> Why in the world does NXP want to punch me in
> the face as I'm looking at a datasheet for a
> stupid little Schottky diode, for Pete's sake?
>
> If NXP becomes a Qualcomm company, I fear things
> will rapidly go further downhill.

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#429922

FromJohn Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com>
Date2016-09-30 08:44 -0700
Message-ID<5o1tubtu7u3sv5dvv0lgibsg1qi8439v1c@4ax.com>
In reply to#429856
On Thu, 29 Sep 2016 17:51:00 -0700 (PDT), "John Miles, KE5FX"
<jmiles@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Thursday, September 29, 2016 at 5:00:09 PM UTC-7, blo...@columbus.rr.com wrote:
>> http://www.wsj.com/articles/qualcomm-in-talks-to-acquire-nxp-semiconductors-1475170033
>
>Bummer.  Qualcomm is nothing but an overstaffed law firm that occasionally sells semiconductors when they have nothing better to do.  
>
>This is what happens if you post an online copy of a 15-year old, publicly available data sheet for a widely used part: http://www.ke5fx.com/usrc/q3236.pdf
>
>Oops, it looks like they missed one: http://f1chf.free.fr/boite%20blanche/QUALCOMM/q3236.pdf
>
>Bunch of asshats.
>
>-- john, KE5FX

Why would anyone want to keep people from seeing their data sheets?
But lots of people do. 

That chip looks klunky by modern standards anyhow.

Several people make things like this:

http://tinyurl.com/jskjlc4

which is astonishing, especially for $5 or so.


-- 

John Larkin         Highland Technology, Inc

lunatic fringe electronics 

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#429991

From"John Miles, KE5FX" <jmiles@gmail.com>
Date2016-09-30 17:38 -0700
Message-ID<b23b55a5-8cb1-4bcb-82ec-26d3ef7fb8da@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#429922
On Friday, September 30, 2016 at 8:45:02 AM UTC-7, 
> John Larkin wrote:
> Why would anyone want to keep people from seeing 
> their data sheets?
> But lots of people do. 
> 
> That chip looks klunky by modern standards anyhow.
> 

Totally.  The Q3236 was already 15 years old in 2008, 
and you could buy much better parts by then.  The page 
where I posted the data sheet was only meant to help me 
keep track of the programming info for an obsolete 26 GHz 
PLL brick (http://www.ke5fx.com/usrc.htm) that I bought 
from a surplus dealer on eBay.  

PSA: if anyone does need a Q3236 for anything, you can get 
a better version of it from Peregrine: 
http://www.psemi.com/pdf/app_notes/an09.pdf .  

I like Peregrine.  They haven't sent me any bullshit DMCA 
notices lately, and they make neat stuff.

-- john, KE5FX

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#429992

FromJohn Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com>
Date2016-09-30 17:48 -0700
Message-ID<bq1uubloclgj04skkq2eru6md4pbjd0dbj@4ax.com>
In reply to#429991
On Fri, 30 Sep 2016 17:38:41 -0700 (PDT), "John Miles, KE5FX"
<jmiles@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Friday, September 30, 2016 at 8:45:02 AM UTC-7, 
>> John Larkin wrote:
>> Why would anyone want to keep people from seeing 
>> their data sheets?
>> But lots of people do. 
>> 
>> That chip looks klunky by modern standards anyhow.
>> 
>
>Totally.  The Q3236 was already 15 years old in 2008, 
>and you could buy much better parts by then.  The page 
>where I posted the data sheet was only meant to help me 
>keep track of the programming info for an obsolete 26 GHz 
>PLL brick (http://www.ke5fx.com/usrc.htm) that I bought 
>from a surplus dealer on eBay.  
>
>PSA: if anyone does need a Q3236 for anything, you can get 
>a better version of it from Peregrine: 
>http://www.psemi.com/pdf/app_notes/an09.pdf .  
>
>I like Peregrine.  They haven't sent me any bullshit DMCA 
>notices lately, and they make neat stuff.
>
>-- john, KE5FX

They have some cool digital capacitors, SPI programmable. 

Maxim had one, but of course they EOL'd it.


-- 

John Larkin         Highland Technology, Inc
picosecond timing   precision measurement 

jlarkin att highlandtechnology dott com
http://www.highlandtechnology.com

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