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Art of Electronics, signed copy, 6th printing, $69.

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  Art of Electronics, signed copy, 6th printing, $69. Winfield Hill <hill@rowland.harvard.edu> - 2016-09-29 17:47 -0700
    Re: Art of Electronics, signed copy, 6th printing, $69. dplatt@coop.radagast.org (Dave Platt) - 2016-09-29 18:17 -0700
      Re: Art of Electronics, signed copy, 6th printing, $69. Winfield Hill <hill@rowland.harvard.edu> - 2016-09-29 19:39 -0700
        Re: Art of Electronics, signed copy, 6th printing, $69. Winfield Hill <hill@rowland.harvard.edu> - 2016-09-29 20:05 -0700
          Re: Art of Electronics, signed copy, 6th printing, $69. whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-29 21:52 -0700
            Re: Art of Electronics, signed copy, 6th printing, $69. Winfield Hill <hill@rowland.harvard.edu> - 2016-09-30 05:29 -0700
              Re: Art of Electronics, signed copy, 6th printing, $69. John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> - 2016-09-30 07:49 -0700
                Re: Art of Electronics, signed copy, 6th printing, $69. Winfield Hill <hill@rowland.harvard.edu> - 2016-09-30 08:33 -0700
                  Re: Art of Electronics, signed copy, 6th printing, $69. John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> - 2016-09-30 08:51 -0700
                    Re: Art of Electronics, signed copy, 6th printing, $69. Winfield Hill <hill@rowland.harvard.edu> - 2016-09-30 10:01 -0700
                    Re: Art of Electronics, signed copy, 6th printing, $69. bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com - 2016-09-30 12:40 -0700
                      Re: Art of Electronics, signed copy, 6th printing, $69. Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> - 2016-09-30 15:46 -0400
                        Re: Art of Electronics, signed copy, 6th printing, $69. John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> - 2016-09-30 13:11 -0700
                          Re: Art of Electronics, signed copy, 6th printing, $69. Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> - 2016-09-30 16:40 -0400
                            Re: Art of Electronics, signed copy, 6th printing, $69. John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> - 2016-09-30 13:51 -0700
                          Re: Art of Electronics, signed copy, 6th printing, $69. Spehro Pefhany <speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> - 2016-10-01 14:06 -0400
                          Re: Art of Electronics, signed copy, 6th printing, $69. Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> - 2016-10-01 14:41 -0700
                            Re: Art of Electronics, signed copy, 6th printing, $69. Winfield Hill <hill@rowland.harvard.edu> - 2016-10-01 15:09 -0700
                    Re: Art of Electronics, signed copy, 6th printing, $69. Julian Barnes <jb9889@notformail.com> - 2016-09-30 22:52 +0000
                      Re: Art of Electronics, signed copy, 6th printing, $69. Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2016-09-30 16:49 -0700
          Re: Art of Electronics, signed copy, 6th printing, $69. rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2016-09-30 01:39 -0400
            Re: Art of Electronics, signed copy, 6th printing, $69. Winfield Hill <hill@rowland.harvard.edu> - 2016-09-30 05:27 -0700
        Re: Art of Electronics, signed copy, 6th printing, $69. dplatt@coop.radagast.org (Dave Platt) - 2016-10-12 10:38 -0700
          Re: Art of Electronics, signed copy, 6th printing, $69. Winfield Hill <hill@rowland.harvard.edu> - 2016-10-12 12:37 -0700
    Re: Art of Electronics, signed copy, 6th printing, $69. bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com - 2016-09-30 07:00 -0700
      Re: Art of Electronics, signed copy, 6th printing, $69. jack4747@gmail.com - 2016-09-30 07:08 -0700
      Re: Art of Electronics, signed copy, 6th printing, $69. John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> - 2016-09-30 07:47 -0700
      Re: Art of Electronics, signed copy, 6th printing, $69. Winfield Hill <hill@rowland.harvard.edu> - 2016-09-30 08:51 -0700
        Re: Art of Electronics, signed copy, 6th printing, $69. Cursitor Doom <curd@notformail.com> - 2016-09-30 23:02 +0000
          Re: Art of Electronics, signed copy, 6th printing, $69. Winfield Hill <hill@rowland.harvard.edu> - 2016-09-30 19:17 -0700
          Re: Art of Electronics, signed copy, 6th printing, $69. Winfield Hill <hill@rowland.harvard.edu> - 2016-10-15 14:21 -0700
          Re: Art of Electronics, signed copy, 6th printing, $69. AntonF <fortunatov@gmail.com> - 2016-10-17 11:39 -0700
    Re: Art of Electronics, signed copy, 6th printing, $69. Martin Riddle <martin_rid@verizon.net> - 2016-09-30 12:59 -0400
      Re: Art of Electronics, signed copy, 6th printing, $69. Winfield Hill <hill@rowland.harvard.edu> - 2016-09-30 10:42 -0700
        Re: Art of Electronics, signed copy, 6th printing, $69. Sergey Kubushyn <ksi@koi8.net> - 2016-09-30 18:15 +0000
          Re: Art of Electronics, signed copy, 6th printing, $69. Winfield Hill <hill@rowland.harvard.edu> - 2016-09-30 12:32 -0700
            Re: Art of Electronics, signed copy, 6th printing, $69. Sergey Kubushyn <ksi@koi8.net> - 2016-10-01 04:29 +0000
        Re: Art of Electronics, signed copy, 6th printing, $69. "P E Schoen" <paul@pstech-inc.com> - 2016-09-30 18:18 -0400
          Re: Art of Electronics, signed copy, 6th printing, $69. Winfield Hill <hill@rowland.harvard.edu> - 2016-09-30 19:06 -0700
            Re: Art of Electronics, signed copy, 6th printing, $69. Spehro Pefhany <speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> - 2016-10-01 14:08 -0400
              Re: Art of Electronics, signed copy, 6th printing, $69. Winfield Hill <hill@rowland.harvard.edu> - 2016-10-01 12:26 -0700
        Re: Art of Electronics, signed copy, 6th printing, $69. Martin Riddle <martin_rid@verizon.net> - 2016-09-30 21:40 -0400
    Re: Art of Electronics, signed copy, 6th printing, $69. AntonF <fortunatov@gmail.com> - 2016-10-03 08:17 -0700
      Re: Art of Electronics, signed copy, 6th printing, $69. Winfield Hill <hill@rowland.harvard.edu> - 2016-10-03 09:36 -0700
        Re: Art of Electronics, signed copy, 6th printing, $69. AntonF <fortunatov@gmail.com> - 2016-10-03 12:30 -0700
        Re: Art of Electronics, signed copy, 6th printing, $69. AntonF <fortunatov@gmail.com> - 2016-10-18 12:25 -0700
          Re: Art of Electronics, signed copy, 6th printing, $69. Winfield Hill <hill@rowland.harvard.edu> - 2016-10-18 13:00 -0700

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#429855 — Art of Electronics, signed copy, 6th printing, $69.

From	Winfield Hill <hill@rowland.harvard.edu>
Date	2016-09-29 17:47 -0700
Subject	Art of Electronics, signed copy, 6th printing, $69.
Message-ID	<nskcmf0nho@drn.newsguy.com>

I've got two new copies of the our book, signed by Paul and me, up for sale on
eBay, for $80 + $3.99 shipping (the list price is $120).  These are 6th
printing, see the eBay link for images and more detail.
www.ebay.com/itm/252563163068    Also see our website 
http://artofelectronics.net   and if you like, see the errata page, 
http://artofelectronics.net/errata/

I've sold 7 signed books this way in the last week, and these are the last two. 
I'm offering these books to s.e.d. readers for a discounted $69 each, plus $3.99
shipping.  I love you guys!  Payment to be by PayPal (although I think you can
use a guest account), to my hill@rowland.harvard.edu account.  Please email me
at winfieldhill@yahoo.com or my Harvard email address, committing to buy a book
and I'll accept by return mail and send you the book after payment.  Buy one
before the horde of other eBay customers do!  Happy reading!


-- 
 Thanks,
    - Win

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#429857

From	dplatt@coop.radagast.org (Dave Platt)
Date	2016-09-29 18:17 -0700
Message-ID	<92r0cd-uk4.ln1@coop.radagast.org>
In reply to	#429855

In article <nskcmf0nho@drn.newsguy.com>,
Winfield Hill  <hill@rowland.harvard.edu> wrote:

>I've got two new copies of the our book, signed by Paul and me, up for sale on
>eBay, for $80 + $3.99 shipping (the list price is $120).  These are 6th
>printing, see the eBay link for images and more detail.

** POUNCE! **

I decided to grab a copy via eBay, at the eBay price... it's a stone
bargain and I didn't want to miss the chance.

Very much looking forwards to this, Win!  I've been holding off on
buying one, waiting for a later printing, and this is clearly The
Moment.  It'll join my honored 2nd Edition copy on my reference
shelf.

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#429865

From	Winfield Hill <hill@rowland.harvard.edu>
Date	2016-09-29 19:39 -0700
Message-ID	<nskj9p015sg@drn.newsguy.com>
In reply to	#429857

Dave Platt wrote...
>
> Winfield Hill <hill@rowland.harvard.edu> wrote:
>
>> I've got two new copies of the our book, signed by
>> Paul and me, up for sale on eBay, for $80 + $3.99
>> shipping (the list price is $120).  These are 6th
>> printing, see the eBay link for images and more detail.
>
> ** POUNCE! **
>
> I decided to grab a copy via eBay, at the eBay price...
> it's a stone bargain and I didn't want to miss the chance.
>
> Very much looking forwards to this, Win!  I've been holding
> off on buying one, waiting for a later printing, and this
> is clearly The Moment.  It'll join my honored 2nd Edition
> copy on my reference shelf.

 You paid $84 instead of the special s.e.d price of $73?
 Whoa, OK, thanks!!!  Dave, I'll send you my only copy
 of a signed 9th printing copy.  So there!!  :-))


-- 
 Thanks,
    - Win

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#429866

From	Winfield Hill <hill@rowland.harvard.edu>
Date	2016-09-29 20:05 -0700
Message-ID	<nskkpn0186c@drn.newsguy.com>
In reply to	#429865

Winfield Hill wrote...
>
>Dave Platt wrote...
>>
>> Winfield Hill <hill@rowland.harvard.edu> wrote:
>>
>>> I've got two new copies of the our book, signed by
>>> Paul and me, up for sale on eBay, for $80 + $3.99
>>> shipping (the list price is $120).  These are 6th
>>> printing, see the eBay link for images and more detail.
>>
>> ** POUNCE! **
>>
>> I decided to grab a copy via eBay, at the eBay price...
>> it's a stone bargain and I didn't want to miss the chance.
>>
>> Very much looking forwards to this, Win!  I've been holding
>> off on buying one, waiting for a later printing, and this
>> is clearly The Moment.  It'll join my honored 2nd Edition
>> copy on my reference shelf.
>
> You paid $84 instead of the special s.e.d price of $73?
> Whoa, OK, thanks!!!  Dave, I'll send you my only copy
> of a signed 9th printing copy.  So there!!  :-))

 I still have two signed copies of the 6th printing,
 for s.e.d. members only, at $69 + 3.99, as described.


-- 
 Thanks,
    - Win

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#429876

From	whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com>
Date	2016-09-29 21:52 -0700
Message-ID	<b9d6ad6f-964c-4450-a721-14197e97f56b@googlegroups.com>
In reply to	#429866

On Thursday, September 29, 2016 at 8:05:46 PM UTC-7, Winfield Hill wrote:

>  I still have two signed copies of the 6th printing,
>  for s.e.d. members only, at $69 + 3.99, as described.

Got one from eBay... yep, the order just confirmed.    Thanks for the heads-up!

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#429890

From	Winfield Hill <hill@rowland.harvard.edu>
Date	2016-09-30 05:29 -0700
Message-ID	<nsllqq02vd6@drn.newsguy.com>
In reply to	#429876

whit3rd wrote...
>
> Winfield Hill wrote:
>
>>  I still have two signed copies of the 6th printing,
>>  for s.e.d. members only, at $69 + 3.99, as described.
>
> Got one from eBay... yep, the order just confirmed.
> Thanks for the heads-up!

 OK, I'll save you a copy.  I've ordered more copies
 from Amazon and will get / add Paul's signature, so
 as to send out 9th printings to y'all who respond
 here and by email to me.  Then my two 6th-printing
 signed copies will go to random other eBay buyers.
 Unless you indicate you prefer to take one of the
 6th printings to get a few days faster delivery?

-- 
 Thanks,
    - Win

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#429907

From	John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com>
Date	2016-09-30 07:49 -0700
Message-ID	<housub9i2co6s4t9la823h785m93cj7q49@4ax.com>
In reply to	#429890

On 30 Sep 2016 05:29:14 -0700, Winfield Hill
<hill@rowland.harvard.edu> wrote:

>whit3rd wrote...
>>
>> Winfield Hill wrote:
>>
>>>  I still have two signed copies of the 6th printing,
>>>  for s.e.d. members only, at $69 + 3.99, as described.
>>
>> Got one from eBay... yep, the order just confirmed.
>> Thanks for the heads-up!
>
> OK, I'll save you a copy.  I've ordered more copies
> from Amazon and will get / add Paul's signature, so
> as to send out 9th printings to y'all who respond
> here and by email to me.  Then my two 6th-printing
> signed copies will go to random other eBay buyers.
> Unless you indicate you prefer to take one of the
> 6th printings to get a few days faster delivery?

My copy has your sig but not Paul's. Is he mad at me or something?

Am I still on page 360 in the new printing?


-- 

John Larkin         Highland Technology, Inc

lunatic fringe electronics

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#429918

From	Winfield Hill <hill@rowland.harvard.edu>
Date	2016-09-30 08:33 -0700
Message-ID	<nsm0k90n48@drn.newsguy.com>
In reply to	#429907

John Larkin wrote...
>
> My copy has your sig but not Paul's. 

 That's because I sent it to you directly, there
 was no signing party.  You had broken your leg,
 remember?  I figured you had captive down time.

> Am I still on page 360 in the new printing?

 Yes, of course.  What are we going to do,
 remove your circuit, name and advice? 
 What, was that all a giant errata?  :-))


-- 
 Thanks,
    - Win

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#429926

From	John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com>
Date	2016-09-30 08:51 -0700
Message-ID	<982tubhmeg97agt4rts0437tvu0dg43nfa@4ax.com>
In reply to	#429918

On 30 Sep 2016 08:33:29 -0700, Winfield Hill
<hill@rowland.harvard.edu> wrote:

>John Larkin wrote...
>>
>> My copy has your sig but not Paul's. 
>
> That's because I sent it to you directly, there
> was no signing party.  You had broken your leg,
> remember?  I figured you had captive down time.

I just fell down some stairs and died for a while. No big deal.

>
>> Am I still on page 360 in the new printing?
>
> Yes, of course.  What are we going to do,
> remove your circuit, name and advice? 
> What, was that all a giant errata?  :-))

I was just confirming the page number, so I can brag accurately.

I love the transistor summary on p 501. That looks like it was a lot
of work.


-- 

John Larkin         Highland Technology, Inc

lunatic fringe electronics

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#429946

From	Winfield Hill <hill@rowland.harvard.edu>
Date	2016-09-30 10:01 -0700
Message-ID	<nsm5oc0128k@drn.newsguy.com>
In reply to	#429926

John Larkin wrote...
>
>I was just confirming the page number, so I can brag accurately.

 All our editor's errata corrections are done
 carefully so as not to change any page number
 reference locations.


-- 
 Thanks,
    - Win

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#429960

From	bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com
Date	2016-09-30 12:40 -0700
Message-ID	<f58abfa9-6430-40c0-8773-dee99c314983@googlegroups.com>
In reply to	#429926

On Friday, September 30, 2016 at 11:52:14 AM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:

> I was just confirming the page number, so I can brag accurately.
> 

LOL- just make sure it isn't in one of those 'bad idea' sections first.

> 
> John Larkin         Highland Technology, Inc
> 
> lunatic fringe electronics

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#429961

From	Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net>
Date	2016-09-30 15:46 -0400
Message-ID	<5f4b7495-ae43-49ec-f52a-48e02c6788a7@electrooptical.net>
In reply to	#429960

On 09/30/2016 03:40 PM, bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com wrote:
> On Friday, September 30, 2016 at 11:52:14 AM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
> 
>> I was just confirming the page number, so I can brag accurately.
>>
> 
> LOL- just make sure it isn't in one of those 'bad idea' sections first.
> 
>>
>> John Larkin         Highland Technology, Inc
>>
>> lunatic fringe electronics
> 

There are no "Bad Circuits" pages in AOE III.  Obviously you need to
sign up for one yourself. ;)

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

-- 
Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics

160 North State Road #203
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510

hobbs at electrooptical dot net
http://electrooptical.net

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#429967

From	John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com>
Date	2016-09-30 13:11 -0700
Message-ID	<0mhtub1n4m7ot1omiqo57htc16mo9bku7n@4ax.com>
In reply to	#429961

On Fri, 30 Sep 2016 15:46:12 -0400, Phil Hobbs
<pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

>On 09/30/2016 03:40 PM, bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Friday, September 30, 2016 at 11:52:14 AM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
>> 
>>> I was just confirming the page number, so I can brag accurately.
>>>
>> 
>> LOL- just make sure it isn't in one of those 'bad idea' sections first.
>> 
>>>
>>> John Larkin         Highland Technology, Inc
>>>
>>> lunatic fringe electronics
>> 
>
>There are no "Bad Circuits" pages in AOE III.  Obviously you need to
>sign up for one yourself. ;)
>
>Cheers
>
>Phil Hobbs

Bad circuits could be a great book, or web site.


-- 

John Larkin         Highland Technology, Inc
picosecond timing   precision measurement 

jlarkin att highlandtechnology dott com
http://www.highlandtechnology.com

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#429971

From	Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net>
Date	2016-09-30 16:40 -0400
Message-ID	<23612b18-117f-73bb-b710-de4d088bec93@electrooptical.net>
In reply to	#429967

On 09/30/2016 04:11 PM, John Larkin wrote:
> On Fri, 30 Sep 2016 15:46:12 -0400, Phil Hobbs
> <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:
> 
>> On 09/30/2016 03:40 PM, bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com wrote:
>>> On Friday, September 30, 2016 at 11:52:14 AM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
>>>
>>>> I was just confirming the page number, so I can brag accurately.
>>>>
>>>
>>> LOL- just make sure it isn't in one of those 'bad idea' sections first.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> John Larkin         Highland Technology, Inc
>>>>
>>>> lunatic fringe electronics
>>>
>>
>> There are no "Bad Circuits" pages in AOE III.  Obviously you need to
>> sign up for one yourself. ;)
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Phil Hobbs
> 
> Bad circuits could be a great book, or web site.
> 
> 
I have several books like that, e.g. Graf's Encyclopedia of Electronic
Circuits--3 volumes totalling about 8 inches thick.  I had to buy them
for an expert gig, because I needed to find prior art.  They were really
cheap used, of course.

Skimming some of the contents, it looked like about a quarter of them
were candidates for "Bad Circuits".  The rest were mostly just crufty.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

-- 
Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics

160 North State Road #203
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510

hobbs at electrooptical dot net
http://electrooptical.net

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#429972

From	John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com>
Date	2016-09-30 13:51 -0700
Message-ID	<drjtub5hup24l7llqq8be0q5p2bktvb01v@4ax.com>
In reply to	#429971

On Fri, 30 Sep 2016 16:40:15 -0400, Phil Hobbs
<pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

>On 09/30/2016 04:11 PM, John Larkin wrote:
>> On Fri, 30 Sep 2016 15:46:12 -0400, Phil Hobbs
>> <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:
>> 
>>> On 09/30/2016 03:40 PM, bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com wrote:
>>>> On Friday, September 30, 2016 at 11:52:14 AM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I was just confirming the page number, so I can brag accurately.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> LOL- just make sure it isn't in one of those 'bad idea' sections first.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> John Larkin         Highland Technology, Inc
>>>>>
>>>>> lunatic fringe electronics
>>>>
>>>
>>> There are no "Bad Circuits" pages in AOE III.  Obviously you need to
>>> sign up for one yourself. ;)
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>> Phil Hobbs
>> 
>> Bad circuits could be a great book, or web site.
>> 
>> 
>I have several books like that, e.g. Graf's Encyclopedia of Electronic
>Circuits--3 volumes totalling about 8 inches thick.  I had to buy them
>for an expert gig, because I needed to find prior art.  They were really
>cheap used, of course.
>
>Skimming some of the contents, it looked like about a quarter of them
>were candidates for "Bad Circuits".  The rest were mostly just crufty.
>
>Cheers
>
>Phil Hobbs

Giant circuit encyclopedias used to be popular. I never found them to
be terribly useful. I guess the web killed them.

If I had time, I'd set up a web site: novel circuits, bad circuits, IC
Bugs, parts notes, good links, cool photos, various rants. Might
eventually get some ad revenue.


-- 

John Larkin         Highland Technology, Inc
picosecond timing   precision measurement 

jlarkin att highlandtechnology dott com
http://www.highlandtechnology.com

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#430067

From	Spehro Pefhany <speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat>
Date	2016-10-01 14:06 -0400
Message-ID	<sltvubpcu9d72gecbr7r0grt3837s8mm46@4ax.com>
In reply to	#429967

On Fri, 30 Sep 2016 13:11:27 -0700, the renowned John Larkin
<jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> wrote:

>
>Bad circuits could be a great book, or web site.

Good idea- filter out the few remarkably bad ones from the vast ocean
of merely bad circuits out there. 

Here's a 3-component oscillator/jammer you can make with a glue gun: 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SF4KPqNK4c

It is probably stressing Veb. 

--sp 


-- 
Best regards, 
Spehro Pefhany
Amazon link for AoE 3rd Edition:            http://tinyurl.com/ntrpwu8

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#430089

From	Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
Date	2016-10-01 14:41 -0700
Message-ID	<7ba0vb1g2ov3qci01415qufdkhlhc5j43e@4ax.com>
In reply to	#429967

On Fri, 30 Sep 2016 13:11:27 -0700, John Larkin
<jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> wrote:

>Bad circuits could be a great book, or web site.

Such books alread exists:
<http://802.11junk.com/jeffl/crud/Electronic-Designers-Casebook.jpg>
I'm not sure about the vintage, but my guess(tm) is the late 1970's.
I've lost count of how many circuits I "borrowed" from such books,
only to find that they either had a well hidden fatal flaw, or that
they were patented.

Permit me to expand on the idea.  Divide the book in two major parts.
The first is a compedium of admittedly bad designs, but without any
indications as to what is wrong with the designs.  The second part is
an analysis of the circuits (using LTspice) demonstrating the failure
mode(s).  

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From	Winfield Hill <hill@rowland.harvard.edu>
Date	2016-10-01 15:09 -0700
Message-ID	<nspc7m0m0t@drn.newsguy.com>
In reply to	#430089

Jeff Liebermann wrote...
> John Larkin wrote:
>
>> Bad circuits could be a great book, or web site.
>
> Such books alread exists:
> <http://802.11junk.com/jeffl/crud/Electronic-Designers-Casebook.jpg>
> I'm not sure about the vintage, but my guess(tm) is the late 1970's.
> I've lost count of how many circuits I "borrowed" from such books,
> only to find that they either had a well hidden fatal flaw, or that
> they were patented.

 Hidden flaws are cool, fun to explore.  Any patents will have
 run out.  Furthermore, most were for specific applications.
 It's hard to patent simple circuits (that should not have
 been granted patents), and very expensive to prosecute
 violations in court.

> Permit me to expand on the idea.  Divide the book in two
> major parts.  The first is a compedium of admittedly bad
> designs, but without any indications as to what is wrong
> with the designs. 

 Cute!  That's what we did with 'Bad Circuits" in the 2nd
 edition.  We received so many emails asking for solutions,
 but what we did was to assert badness, and thereby trigger
 massive thought processes in the reader.  Ditto for the
 exercises.  I always sincerely invited a second request,
 and promised to provide hints, but rarely got one.  I was
 ready, really, enjoy emailing, but I suppose that's good.

> The second part is an analysis of the circuits (using
> LTspice) demonstrating the failure mode(s).  

 It's fun to use SPICE, but it's not not instructive. 
 Evaluation and analytical analysis would be better.

-- 
 Thanks,
    - Win

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#429984

From	Julian Barnes <jb9889@notformail.com>
Date	2016-09-30 22:52 +0000
Message-ID	<nsmqal$79d$9@dont-email.me>
In reply to	#429926

On Fri, 30 Sep 2016 08:51:57 -0700, John Larkin wrote:

> On 30 Sep 2016 08:33:29 -0700, Winfield Hill <hill@rowland.harvard.edu>
> wrote:
> 
>>John Larkin wrote...

>>> Am I still on page 360 in the new printing?
>>
>> Yes, of course.  What are we going to do, remove your circuit, name and
>> advice?
>> What, was that all a giant errata?  :-))
> 
> I was just confirming the page number, so I can brag accurately.

I believe a lot of s.e.d-ers are credited in this new edition. On which 
pages will I find Bill Sloman's contributions?

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#429990

From	Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com>
Date	2016-09-30 16:49 -0700
Message-ID	<8futub5alcm1skonudrs8o7ob5ujsgunq4@4ax.com>
In reply to	#429984

On Fri, 30 Sep 2016 22:52:05 -0000 (UTC), Julian Barnes
<jb9889@notformail.com> wrote:

>On Fri, 30 Sep 2016 08:51:57 -0700, John Larkin wrote:
>
>> On 30 Sep 2016 08:33:29 -0700, Winfield Hill <hill@rowland.harvard.edu>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>>John Larkin wrote...
>
>>>> Am I still on page 360 in the new printing?
>>>
>>> Yes, of course.  What are we going to do, remove your circuit, name and
>>> advice?
>>> What, was that all a giant errata?  :-))
>> 
>> I was just confirming the page number, so I can brag accurately.
>
>I believe a lot of s.e.d-ers are credited in this new edition. On which 
>pages will I find Bill Sloman's contributions?

Bwahahahahaha!  ROTFLMAO >:-}
		
                                        ...Jim Thompson
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