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Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars.

Started by"Robert Clark" <rgregoryclark@gmSPAMBLOACKail.com>
First post2017-07-03 08:31 -0400
Last post2017-07-13 02:57 -0700
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  Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. "Robert Clark" <rgregoryclark@gmSPAMBLOACKail.com> - 2017-07-03 08:31 -0400
    Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> - 2017-07-03 09:04 -0400
      Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. leongdentalsf@gmail.com - 2017-07-03 06:23 -0700
    Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. leongdentalsf@gmail.com - 2017-07-03 06:20 -0700
      Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-07-06 09:26 -0400
    Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Joe Chisolm <jchisolm6@earthlink.net> - 2017-07-03 11:09 -0500
      Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-07-03 09:54 -0700
        Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Joe Chisolm <jchisolm6@earthlink.net> - 2017-07-03 18:02 -0500
          Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-07-03 16:44 -0700
            Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Joe Chisolm <jchisolm6@earthlink.net> - 2017-07-04 12:10 -0500
              Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-07-04 11:12 -0700
                Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Clifford Heath <no.spam@please.net> - 2017-07-05 13:49 +1000
                  Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-07-04 21:31 -0700
                    Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Clifford Heath <no.spam@please.net> - 2017-07-05 16:03 +1000
    Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-03 17:04 +0000
      Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2017-07-03 14:04 -0400
        Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-03 18:28 +0000
          Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2017-07-03 16:14 -0400
            Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-03 20:57 +0000
              Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. tabbypurr@gmail.com - 2017-07-03 14:57 -0700
              Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2017-07-03 16:14 -0700
                Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-04 00:45 +0000
                  Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2017-07-03 20:11 -0700
                    Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-04 04:55 +0000
                      Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2017-07-04 02:29 -0700
              Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. David Mitchell <david.robot.mitchell@gmail.com> - 2017-07-04 06:49 +0100
                Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-04 18:02 +0000
                  Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-07-04 21:33 -0700
                    Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. David Mitchell <david.robot.mitchell@gmail.com> - 2017-07-05 07:16 +0100
                      Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. tabbypurr@gmail.com - 2017-07-05 08:52 -0700
                    Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-05 16:47 +0000
                      Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2017-07-05 11:08 -0700
                        Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. krw@notreal.com - 2017-07-05 21:02 -0400
                          Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2017-07-05 19:12 -0700
                            Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. krw@notreal.com - 2017-07-05 22:16 -0400
                              Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2017-07-05 23:30 -0700
                                Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. David Mitchell <david.robot.mitchell@gmail.com> - 2017-07-06 09:35 +0100
                                  Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2017-07-06 10:05 -0700
                                    Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. krw@notreal.com - 2017-07-06 21:20 -0400
                                      Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Sегg io <innvalid@invalid.com> - 2017-07-07 08:03 -0500
                                Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. krw@notreal.com - 2017-07-06 21:19 -0400
                            Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Sегg io <innvalid@invalid.com> - 2017-07-06 13:09 -0500
                  Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2017-07-04 23:05 -0700
                Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2017-07-04 20:08 -0600
              Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2017-07-04 09:11 -0400
                Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-04 18:12 +0000
                  Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. tabbypurr@gmail.com - 2017-07-04 20:08 -0700
                  Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. David Mitchell <david.robot.mitchell@gmail.com> - 2017-07-05 07:20 +0100
                    Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. tabbypurr@gmail.com - 2017-07-05 08:54 -0700
                    Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-05 16:54 +0000
                      Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2017-07-05 18:42 -0400
                        Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-05 23:07 +0000
                          Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. tabbypurr@gmail.com - 2017-07-05 17:27 -0700
                      Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. David Mitchell <david.robot.mitchell@gmail.com> - 2017-07-06 09:30 +0100
                        Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2017-07-06 06:35 -0400
                        Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-06 16:34 +0000
                          Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. krw@notreal.com - 2017-07-06 21:25 -0400
                            Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-07 04:56 +0000
                              Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2017-07-07 02:09 -0700
                              Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. krw@notreal.com - 2017-07-07 20:18 -0400
                          Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. David Mitchell <david.robot.mitchell@gmail.com> - 2017-07-07 06:19 +0100
                            Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-07 17:13 +0000
                              Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. tabbypurr@gmail.com - 2017-07-07 11:43 -0700
                                Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> - 2017-07-07 15:22 -0400
                                  Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. tabbypurr@gmail.com - 2017-07-07 15:29 -0700
                                    Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. pcdhobbs@gmail.com - 2017-07-07 16:20 -0700
                                      Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. tabbypurr@gmail.com - 2017-07-07 18:18 -0700
                                  Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> - 2017-07-08 08:46 -0400
                                    Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> - 2017-07-08 08:53 -0400
                                      Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. tabbypurr@gmail.com - 2017-07-08 08:12 -0700
                              Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. David Mitchell <david.robot.mitchell@gmail.com> - 2017-07-08 06:49 +0100
                                Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-08 17:13 +0000
                                  Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. tabbypurr@gmail.com - 2017-07-08 11:13 -0700
                                    Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. krw@notreal.com - 2017-07-08 18:50 -0400
                                      Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. tabbypurr@gmail.com - 2017-07-08 16:33 -0700
                                        Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. krw@notreal.com - 2017-07-08 19:47 -0400
                                          Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. tabbypurr@gmail.com - 2017-07-08 18:17 -0700
                                            Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. krw@notreal.com - 2017-07-08 21:27 -0400
                                  Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. David Mitchell <david.robot.mitchell@gmail.com> - 2017-07-09 07:12 +0100
                                    Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-09 17:44 +0000
                                      Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2017-07-09 12:48 -0700
                                        Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Sегg io <innvalid@invalid.com> - 2017-07-09 23:27 -0500
                                      Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. David Mitchell <david.robot.mitchell@gmail.com> - 2017-07-10 07:11 +0100
                                        Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-10 16:30 +0000
                                          Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. David Mitchell <david.robot.mitchell@gmail.com> - 2017-07-11 06:49 +0100
                                            Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-11 17:47 +0000
                                              Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2017-07-11 13:15 -0700
                                                Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. krw@notreal.com - 2017-07-11 16:27 -0400
                                                  Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2017-07-11 14:46 -0700
                                                    Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. krw@notreal.com - 2017-07-11 18:36 -0400
                                                      Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2017-07-11 18:20 -0700
                                                        Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. krw@notreal.com - 2017-07-11 21:31 -0400
                                                  Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-11 22:12 +0000
                                                    Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Spehro Pefhany <speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> - 2017-07-11 19:01 -0400
                                                      Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-12 02:24 +0000
                                                        Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2017-07-11 22:44 -0700
                                                      Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. "Robert Clark" <rgregoryclark@gmSPAMBLOACKail.com> - 2017-07-12 10:24 -0400
                                                        Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. krw@notreal.com - 2017-07-13 20:57 -0400
                                                          Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2017-07-13 23:17 -0700
                                                            Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. krw@notreal.com - 2017-07-14 17:42 -0400
                                                              Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2017-07-14 16:11 -0700
                                                    Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2017-07-11 18:21 -0700
                                                    Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2017-07-12 07:28 -0400
                                                      Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Martin Brown <'''newspam'''@nezumi.demon.co.uk> - 2017-07-12 12:43 +0100
                                                        Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> - 2017-07-12 07:46 -0400
                                                        Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. krw@notreal.com - 2017-07-13 20:59 -0400
                                                          Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. tabbypurr@gmail.com - 2017-07-13 20:36 -0700
                                                            Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. krw@notreal.com - 2017-07-14 17:47 -0400
                                                              Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. tabbypurr@gmail.com - 2017-07-14 15:32 -0700
                                                                Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. krw@notreal.com - 2017-07-14 19:07 -0400
                                                                  Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. tabbypurr@gmail.com - 2017-07-14 16:21 -0700
                                                      Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2017-07-12 05:10 -0700
                                                      Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-12 17:45 +0000
                                                        Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Serg io <invaalid@invalid.com> - 2017-07-12 18:39 -0500
                                                          Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2017-07-12 21:29 -0700
                                                            Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Serg io <invaalid@invalid.com> - 2017-07-13 20:27 -0500
                                                              Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2017-07-13 23:22 -0700
                                                                Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Serg io <invaalid@invalid.com> - 2017-07-14 11:55 -0500
                                                        Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Martin Brown <'''newspam'''@nezumi.demon.co.uk> - 2017-07-13 08:01 +0100
                                                        Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. krw@notreal.com - 2017-07-13 21:01 -0400
                                                          Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-14 02:11 +0000
                                                            Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. krw@notreal.com - 2017-07-13 22:56 -0400
                                                              Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-14 05:03 +0000
                                                                Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. krw@notreal.com - 2017-07-14 17:50 -0400
                                                                  Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-14 23:49 +0000
                                                                    Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. krw@notreal.com - 2017-07-14 23:04 -0400
                                                                      Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-15 05:02 +0000
                                                                        Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. krw@notreal.com - 2017-07-15 08:51 -0400
                                                                          Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-15 17:23 +0000
                                                                            Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. krw@notreal.com - 2017-07-15 18:08 -0400
                                                                              Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-16 02:02 +0000
                                                                                Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2017-07-16 12:53 -0600
                                                                                  Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Serg io <invaalid@invalid.com> - 2017-07-17 13:04 -0500
                                                                          Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2017-07-16 09:51 -0400
                                                                            Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Serg io <invaalid@invalid.com> - 2017-07-16 11:04 -0500
                                                                            Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-16 17:55 +0000
                                                                              Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2017-07-16 16:15 -0400
                                                                                Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-16 20:26 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2017-07-16 15:32 -0600
                                                                                    Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-16 22:08 +0000
                                                                                    Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-07-16 15:21 -0700
                                                                                      Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-16 22:53 +0000
                                                                                      Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2017-07-16 17:00 -0700
                                                                                        Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Serg io <invaalid@invalid.com> - 2017-07-17 09:06 -0500
                                                                                          Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. krw@notreal.com - 2017-07-17 20:23 -0400
                                                                                Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2017-07-16 15:27 -0600
                                                                                  Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2017-07-16 17:39 -0400
                                                                                    Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> - 2017-07-17 09:46 -0400
                                                                                  Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-16 22:16 +0000
                                                                            Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Lofty Goat <rlwatkins@gmail.com> - 2017-07-16 13:04 -0500
                                                    Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. tabbypurr@gmail.com - 2017-07-12 04:33 -0700
                                              Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. David Mitchell <david.robot.mitchell@gmail.com> - 2017-07-12 07:04 +0100
                                                Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-12 17:48 +0000
                                                  Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. David Mitchell <david.robot.mitchell@gmail.com> - 2017-07-13 06:50 +0100
                                                    Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-13 17:29 +0000
                                                      Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. David Mitchell <david.robot.mitchell@gmail.com> - 2017-07-14 05:51 +0100
                                                        Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-14 05:11 +0000
                                                          Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. tabbypurr@gmail.com - 2017-07-14 02:55 -0700
                                                            Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. krw@notreal.com - 2017-07-14 17:51 -0400
                                                              Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. tabbypurr@gmail.com - 2017-07-14 15:34 -0700
                                                                Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. krw@notreal.com - 2017-07-14 19:09 -0400
                                                                  Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. tabbypurr@gmail.com - 2017-07-14 16:24 -0700
                                                          Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. David Mitchell <david.robot.mitchell@gmail.com> - 2017-07-15 06:36 +0100
                                                            Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2017-07-15 00:27 -0600
                                                            Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. krw@notreal.com - 2017-07-15 08:52 -0400
                                                              Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. David Mitchell <david.robot.mitchell@gmail.com> - 2017-07-16 06:40 +0100
                                                                Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. krw@notreal.com - 2017-07-16 16:02 -0400
                                                                  Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. David Mitchell <david.robot.mitchell@gmail.com> - 2017-07-17 06:02 +0100
                                                                    Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. krw@notreal.com - 2017-07-17 20:31 -0400
                                                                      Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. David Mitchell <david.robot.mitchell@gmail.com> - 2017-07-18 06:32 +0100
                                                                        Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. krw@notreal.com - 2017-07-18 21:10 -0400
                                                                          Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. David Mitchell <david.robot.mitchell@gmail.com> - 2017-07-19 05:08 +0100
                                                                            Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. krw@notreal.com - 2017-07-19 20:17 -0400
                                                                              Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-20 01:11 +0000
                                                                                Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. David Mitchell <david.robot.mitchell@gmail.com> - 2017-07-20 06:23 +0100
                                                                                Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2017-07-20 03:35 -0700
                                                                              Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. David Mitchell <david.robot.mitchell@gmail.com> - 2017-07-20 05:56 +0100
                                                                                Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Serg io <invaalid@invalid.com> - 2017-07-20 10:18 -0500
                                                                                  Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> - 2017-07-20 11:34 -0400
                                                                                    Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. krw@notreal.com - 2017-07-20 16:25 -0400
                                                                                      Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-20 20:42 +0000
                                                                                        Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2017-07-20 16:40 -0700
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          Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. "Robert Clark" <rgregoryclark@gmSPAMBLOACKail.com> - 2017-07-10 19:49 -0400
            Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2017-07-13 20:17 +0000
            Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-13 21:42 +0000
              Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. tabbypurr@gmail.com - 2017-07-13 15:47 -0700
              Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. "Robert Clark" <rgregoryclark@gmSPAMBLOACKail.com> - 2017-07-13 20:53 -0400
                Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-14 02:05 +0000
                  Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2017-07-13 23:25 -0700
    Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. "Robert Clark" <rgregoryclark@gmSPAMBLOACKail.com> - 2017-07-12 10:58 -0400
      Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-12 17:54 +0000
        Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. "Robert Clark" <rgregoryclark@gmSPAMBLOACKail.com> - 2017-07-12 15:18 -0400
          Re: Towards the *fully* 3D-printed electric cars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2017-07-12 20:00 +0000
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#467607

FromFred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com>
Date2017-07-09 12:48 -0700
Message-ID<u225mch6uffq569tmfvbjs6ps51k2oshi6@4ax.com>
In reply to#467565
jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:

>In sci.physics David Mitchell <david.robot.mitchell@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Besides, millions of people "make their own stuff" every day, although it's 
>> primarly digital content these days.
>>
> 
>Otherwise know as trash, SPAM, and utter nonsense.
>

Well, that's certainly true in your case.


-- 
"Some people get lost in thought because it's such unfamiliar
 territory."
                                      --G. Behn

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#467708

FromSегg io <innvalid@invalid.com>
Date2017-07-09 23:27 -0500
Message-ID<ojuvnl$19i4$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#467607
On 7/9/2017 2:48 PM, Fred J. McCall wrote:
> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> 
>> In sci.physics David Mitchell <david.robot.mitchell@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Besides, millions of people "make their own stuff" every day, although it's
>>> primarly digital content these days.
>>>
>>
>> Otherwise know as trash, SPAM, and utter nonsense.
>>
> 
> Well, that's certainly true in your case.
> 
> 

his case has not gone to trial yet.

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#467713

FromDavid Mitchell <david.robot.mitchell@gmail.com>
Date2017-07-10 07:11 +0100
Message-ID<I5adnaoNYLMyh_7EnZ2dnUU78SfNnZ2d@brightview.co.uk>
In reply to#467565
jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> In sci.physics David Mitchell <david.robot.mitchell@gmail.com> wrote:
>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>> In sci.physics David Mitchell <david.robot.mitchell@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>> In sci.physics David Mitchell <david.robot.mitchell@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>>> In sci.physics David Mitchell <david.robot.mitchell@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>> In sci.physics David Mitchell <david.robot.mitchell@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Does anyone care about a shape optimized 4 slice toaster or filing cabinet?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Yes.  I do.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If any significant number of items in your house are fabricated, it makes sense
>>>>>>>>>> to use as few raw materials as possible, so, for example, it would make sense to
>>>>>>>>>> honeycomb the inside of a knife handle, since it would still be strong enough,
>>>>>>>>>> and would allow you to keep a gram or two of material "in the pot" for other
>>>>>>>>>> projects.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Ditto everything you make.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Nonsense; the items in one's house are based on price not how elegantly
>>>>>>>>> it was produced.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It makes no sense to honeycomb the inside of a knife handle as it would
>>>>>>>>> add no functionality and just increase the price.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What price?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The manufacturing cost which increases the retail sales price at the store.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It would reduce both the time to fabricate and feedstock used, albeit at the
>>>>>>>> cost of slightly more complex software.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Or you could injection mold it, as most knife handles are, for a fraction
>>>>>>> of the manufacturing cost of the honyecomb nonsense.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What do you think the manufacturing cost of fabrication is?
>>>>>> - Feedstock, most of which is, and can be, recycled,
>>>>>
>>>>> Cost recovery for most materials is trivial.
>>>>>
>>>>>> - Power, minimal,
>>>>>
>>>>> For 3D metal printing, lots of power.
>>>>>
>>>>>> - Cost of the unit, divided by its expected lifetime, multiplied by time to print?
>>>>>
>>>>> Babble.
>>>>
>>>> Not really, it's called amortisation, in this case of the cost of the fabricator.
>>>> "The process of reducing, or accounting for, an amount over a period according
>>>> to a plan."
>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amortization
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> These are all very small.
>>>>>
>>>>> For techniques such as molding, yes.
>>>>
>>>> And for mature fabrication technology.
>>>>
>>>>>>  I'm looking at a mature fabrication economy - when you don't buy most things
>>>>>> you fabricate them.
>>>>>
>>>>> Pure fantasy.
>>>>
>>>> Name-calling isn't particularly useful in a discussion.
>>>
>>> It is not name calling, it is my opinion of the concept of people fabricating
>>> their own things.
>>>
>>>> I'd justify my claim (that most people will be fabricating most things) by
>>>> noting that when almost any technology becomes cheap enough, it becomes
>>>> ubiquitous, and I'd cite computers, automobiles and printers as examples.
>>>
>>> Milling machines, drill presses and lathes are quite cheap, especially when
>>> compared to metal 3D printers, and are available at your local Harbor Freight
>>> store.
>>>
>>> How many people do you know that own any of the above?
>>
>> Apples and oranges, they are nowhere as flexible as mature fabricator technology
>> would be, nor as easy to use.
>
> Obviously you have never seen a N/C milling machine in action nor payed
> for raw stock.

*paid

I'm not sure what point you're trying to make here.

>> Even making bread is more difficult than simply selecting a file, loading
>> feedstock and pressing a button.
>
> Obviously you have never seen a real 3D printer in action nor have you
> ever made bread.

Done both; what's your point?
As I keep having to explain, I'm talking about *mature* fabrication technology.

>
>> Besides, millions of people "make their own stuff" every day, although it's
>> primarly digital content these days.
>
> Otherwise know as trash, SPAM, and utter nonsense.

Irrelevant.

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#467778

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2017-07-10 16:30 +0000
Message-ID<7mmc3e-fsb.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#467713
In sci.physics David Mitchell <david.robot.mitchell@gmail.com> wrote:
> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> In sci.physics David Mitchell <david.robot.mitchell@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>> In sci.physics David Mitchell <david.robot.mitchell@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>> In sci.physics David Mitchell <david.robot.mitchell@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>>>> In sci.physics David Mitchell <david.robot.mitchell@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> In sci.physics David Mitchell <david.robot.mitchell@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Does anyone care about a shape optimized 4 slice toaster or filing cabinet?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Yes.  I do.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> If any significant number of items in your house are fabricated, it makes sense
>>>>>>>>>>> to use as few raw materials as possible, so, for example, it would make sense to
>>>>>>>>>>> honeycomb the inside of a knife handle, since it would still be strong enough,
>>>>>>>>>>> and would allow you to keep a gram or two of material "in the pot" for other
>>>>>>>>>>> projects.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Ditto everything you make.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Nonsense; the items in one's house are based on price not how elegantly
>>>>>>>>>> it was produced.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It makes no sense to honeycomb the inside of a knife handle as it would
>>>>>>>>>> add no functionality and just increase the price.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What price?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The manufacturing cost which increases the retail sales price at the store.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It would reduce both the time to fabricate and feedstock used, albeit at the
>>>>>>>>> cost of slightly more complex software.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Or you could injection mold it, as most knife handles are, for a fraction
>>>>>>>> of the manufacturing cost of the honyecomb nonsense.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What do you think the manufacturing cost of fabrication is?
>>>>>>> - Feedstock, most of which is, and can be, recycled,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cost recovery for most materials is trivial.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - Power, minimal,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For 3D metal printing, lots of power.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - Cost of the unit, divided by its expected lifetime, multiplied by time to print?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Babble.
>>>>>
>>>>> Not really, it's called amortisation, in this case of the cost of the fabricator.
>>>>> "The process of reducing, or accounting for, an amount over a period according
>>>>> to a plan."
>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amortization
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> These are all very small.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For techniques such as molding, yes.
>>>>>
>>>>> And for mature fabrication technology.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>  I'm looking at a mature fabrication economy - when you don't buy most things
>>>>>>> you fabricate them.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Pure fantasy.
>>>>>
>>>>> Name-calling isn't particularly useful in a discussion.
>>>>
>>>> It is not name calling, it is my opinion of the concept of people fabricating
>>>> their own things.
>>>>
>>>>> I'd justify my claim (that most people will be fabricating most things) by
>>>>> noting that when almost any technology becomes cheap enough, it becomes
>>>>> ubiquitous, and I'd cite computers, automobiles and printers as examples.
>>>>
>>>> Milling machines, drill presses and lathes are quite cheap, especially when
>>>> compared to metal 3D printers, and are available at your local Harbor Freight
>>>> store.
>>>>
>>>> How many people do you know that own any of the above?
>>>
>>> Apples and oranges, they are nowhere as flexible as mature fabricator technology
>>> would be, nor as easy to use.
>>
>> Obviously you have never seen a N/C milling machine in action nor payed
>> for raw stock.
> 
> *paid
> 
> I'm not sure what point you're trying to make here.

That you have no idea how things are made in the real world.

>>> Even making bread is more difficult than simply selecting a file, loading
>>> feedstock and pressing a button.
>>
>> Obviously you have never seen a real 3D printer in action nor have you
>> ever made bread.
> 
> Done both; what's your point?
> As I keep having to explain, I'm talking about *mature* fabrication technology.

What do you concider "mature fabrication technology"?

The way you are talking I would think that would be a Star Trek replicator.

>>> Besides, millions of people "make their own stuff" every day, although it's
>>> primarly digital content these days.
>>
>> Otherwise know as trash, SPAM, and utter nonsense.
> 
> Irrelevant.
 
OK, what "stuff" would people be making at home?
 

-- 
Jim Pennino

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#467889

FromDavid Mitchell <david.robot.mitchell@gmail.com>
Date2017-07-11 06:49 +0100
Message-ID<n7KdnVR2VP5s-_nEnZ2dnUU78UvNnZ2d@brightview.co.uk>
In reply to#467778
jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> In sci.physics David Mitchell <david.robot.mitchell@gmail.com> wrote:
>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>> In sci.physics David Mitchell <david.robot.mitchell@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>> In sci.physics David Mitchell <david.robot.mitchell@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>>> In sci.physics David Mitchell <david.robot.mitchell@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>> In sci.physics David Mitchell <david.robot.mitchell@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> In sci.physics David Mitchell <david.robot.mitchell@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Does anyone care about a shape optimized 4 slice toaster or filing cabinet?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes.  I do.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> If any significant number of items in your house are fabricated, it makes sense
>>>>>>>>>>>> to use as few raw materials as possible, so, for example, it would make sense to
>>>>>>>>>>>> honeycomb the inside of a knife handle, since it would still be strong enough,
>>>>>>>>>>>> and would allow you to keep a gram or two of material "in the pot" for other
>>>>>>>>>>>> projects.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Ditto everything you make.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Nonsense; the items in one's house are based on price not how elegantly
>>>>>>>>>>> it was produced.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> It makes no sense to honeycomb the inside of a knife handle as it would
>>>>>>>>>>> add no functionality and just increase the price.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> What price?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The manufacturing cost which increases the retail sales price at the store.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It would reduce both the time to fabricate and feedstock used, albeit at the
>>>>>>>>>> cost of slightly more complex software.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Or you could injection mold it, as most knife handles are, for a fraction
>>>>>>>>> of the manufacturing cost of the honyecomb nonsense.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What do you think the manufacturing cost of fabrication is?
>>>>>>>> - Feedstock, most of which is, and can be, recycled,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cost recovery for most materials is trivial.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> - Power, minimal,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> For 3D metal printing, lots of power.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> - Cost of the unit, divided by its expected lifetime, multiplied by time to print?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Babble.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not really, it's called amortisation, in this case of the cost of the fabricator.
>>>>>> "The process of reducing, or accounting for, an amount over a period according
>>>>>> to a plan."
>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amortization
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> These are all very small.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> For techniques such as molding, yes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And for mature fabrication technology.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  I'm looking at a mature fabrication economy - when you don't buy most things
>>>>>>>> you fabricate them.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Pure fantasy.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Name-calling isn't particularly useful in a discussion.
>>>>>
>>>>> It is not name calling, it is my opinion of the concept of people fabricating
>>>>> their own things.
>>>>>
>>>>>> I'd justify my claim (that most people will be fabricating most things) by
>>>>>> noting that when almost any technology becomes cheap enough, it becomes
>>>>>> ubiquitous, and I'd cite computers, automobiles and printers as examples.
>>>>>
>>>>> Milling machines, drill presses and lathes are quite cheap, especially when
>>>>> compared to metal 3D printers, and are available at your local Harbor Freight
>>>>> store.
>>>>>
>>>>> How many people do you know that own any of the above?
>>>>
>>>> Apples and oranges, they are nowhere as flexible as mature fabricator technology
>>>> would be, nor as easy to use.
>>>
>>> Obviously you have never seen a N/C milling machine in action nor payed
>>> for raw stock.
>>
>> *paid
>>
>> I'm not sure what point you're trying to make here.
>
> That you have no idea how things are made in the real world.

Not so much a point, as a meta-point.
If you have something to say, say it.  With numbers, if you can.

>;
>>>> Even making bread is more difficult than simply selecting a file, loading
>>>> feedstock and pressing a button.
>>>
>>> Obviously you have never seen a real 3D printer in action nor have you
>>> ever made bread.
>>
>> Done both; what's your point?
>> As I keep having to explain, I'm talking about *mature* fabrication technology.
>
> What do you concider "mature fabrication technology"?
>
> The way you are talking I would think that would be a Star Trek replicator.

Nope.  Nothing I've described is beyond the pale.  My starting point is 1 gram 
per second of a single material.   It's a fairly low bar but it allows one to 
think about the societal and economic ramifications in a fairly plausible way.


>
>>>> Besides, millions of people "make their own stuff" every day, although it's
>>>> primarly digital content these days.
>>>
>>> Otherwise know as trash, SPAM, and utter nonsense.
>>
>> Irrelevant.
>
> OK, what "stuff" would people be making at home?

Jewellry, utilities, tools, gadgets.

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#467968

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2017-07-11 17:47 +0000
Message-ID<viff3e-m9l.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#467889
In sci.physics David Mitchell <david.robot.mitchell@gmail.com> wrote:
> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:

>> OK, what "stuff" would people be making at home?
> 
> Jewellry, utilities, tools, gadgets.

Could you be any more vague?

 

-- 
Jim Pennino

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#467997

FromFred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com>
Date2017-07-11 13:15 -0700
Message-ID<sdcamc1s537m15nadg349a9fbj8vtnrr6k@4ax.com>
In reply to#467968
jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:

>In sci.physics David Mitchell <david.robot.mitchell@gmail.com> wrote:
>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>
>>> OK, what "stuff" would people be making at home?
>> 
>> Jewellry, utilities, tools, gadgets.
>>
>
>Could you be any more vague?
>

"Vague"?  Do you not know what jewelry and such are?


-- 
"Ignorance is preferable to error, and he is less remote from the
 truth who believes nothing than he who believes what is wrong."
                               -- Thomas Jefferson

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#468003

Fromkrw@notreal.com
Date2017-07-11 16:27 -0400
Message-ID<m2damclfb32ve2n9pla9u4lklnvahscbba@4ax.com>
In reply to#467997
On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 13:15:28 -0700, Fred J. McCall
<fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:

>jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>
>>In sci.physics David Mitchell <david.robot.mitchell@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>
>>>> OK, what "stuff" would people be making at home?
>>> 
>>> Jewellry, utilities, tools, gadgets.
>>>
>>
>>Could you be any more vague?
>>
>
>"Vague"?  Do you not know what jewelry and such are?

Why on Earth would anyone print jewelry?  Plastic jewelry?  ...or are
you going to print gold?  BTW, I'd like to see you print hardened
steel and water companies, too.

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#468016

FromFred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com>
Date2017-07-11 14:46 -0700
Message-ID<9jhamc5svhqo2s3k2atqrgib8hsl383vvs@4ax.com>
In reply to#468003
krw@notreal.com wrote:

>On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 13:15:28 -0700, Fred J. McCall
><fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>
>>>In sci.physics David Mitchell <david.robot.mitchell@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>
>>>>> OK, what "stuff" would people be making at home?
>>>> 
>>>> Jewellry, utilities, tools, gadgets.
>>>>
>>>
>>>Could you be any more vague?
>>>
>>
>>"Vague"?  Do you not know what jewelry and such are?
>>
>
>Why on Earth would anyone print jewelry?  Plastic jewelry?  ...or are
>you going to print gold?  BTW, I'd like to see you print hardened
>steel and water companies, too.
>

Do try to keep up.  The question was "what do people make at home?"
The question was not "What are people 3D-Printing at home?"

That being said, why not?  Where do you get the silly idea that
3D-printing only works for plastics?  People are 3D-printing rocket
combustion chambers and you think 'hardened steel' is a problem?


-- 
"Some people get lost in thought because it's such unfamiliar
 territory."
                                      --G. Behn

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#468024

Fromkrw@notreal.com
Date2017-07-11 18:36 -0400
Message-ID<nkkamcpfeemsp0qsptgtuh3v92u9ca0b95@4ax.com>
In reply to#468016
On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 14:46:45 -0700, Fred J. McCall
<fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:

>krw@notreal.com wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 13:15:28 -0700, Fred J. McCall
>><fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>
>>>>In sci.physics David Mitchell <david.robot.mitchell@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> OK, what "stuff" would people be making at home?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Jewellry, utilities, tools, gadgets.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Could you be any more vague?
>>>>
>>>
>>>"Vague"?  Do you not know what jewelry and such are?
>>>
>>
>>Why on Earth would anyone print jewelry?  Plastic jewelry?  ...or are
>>you going to print gold?  BTW, I'd like to see you print hardened
>>steel and water companies, too.
>>
>
>Do try to keep up.  The question was "what do people make at home?"
>The question was not "What are people 3D-Printing at home?"

You really do have a short attention span, don't you?  Probably ADHD.
>
>That being said, why not?  Where do you get the silly idea that
>3D-printing only works for plastics?  People are 3D-printing rocket
>combustion chambers and you think 'hardened steel' is a problem?

Do try to pay attention.  Maybe if you took notes.

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#468060

FromFred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com>
Date2017-07-11 18:20 -0700
Message-ID<b9uamc1avdful8sqmp30netmdeuog0bqv3@4ax.com>
In reply to#468024
krw@notreal.com wrote:

>On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 14:46:45 -0700, Fred J. McCall
><fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>krw@notreal.com wrote:
>>
>>>On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 13:15:28 -0700, Fred J. McCall
>>><fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>In sci.physics David Mitchell <david.robot.mitchell@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> OK, what "stuff" would people be making at home?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Jewellry, utilities, tools, gadgets.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Could you be any more vague?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Vague"?  Do you not know what jewelry and such are?
>>>>
>>>
>>>Why on Earth would anyone print jewelry?  Plastic jewelry?  ...or are
>>>you going to print gold?  BTW, I'd like to see you print hardened
>>>steel and water companies, too.
>>>
>>
>>Do try to keep up.  The question was "what do people make at home?"
>>The question was not "What are people 3D-Printing at home?"
>
>You really do have a short attention span, don't you?  Probably ADHD.

Lack of content noted.

>>
>>That being said, why not?  Where do you get the silly idea that
>>3D-printing only works for plastics?  People are 3D-printing rocket
>>combustion chambers and you think 'hardened steel' is a problem?
>
>Do try to pay attention.  Maybe if you took notes.

Lack of content noted.


-- 
"Some people get lost in thought because it's such unfamiliar
 territory."
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#468063

Fromkrw@notreal.com
Date2017-07-11 21:31 -0400
Message-ID<buuamcd10ukjfap5ohp071fqqmr5178jsj@4ax.com>
In reply to#468060
On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 18:20:26 -0700, Fred J. McCall
<fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:

>krw@notreal.com wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 14:46:45 -0700, Fred J. McCall
>><fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>krw@notreal.com wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 13:15:28 -0700, Fred J. McCall
>>>><fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>In sci.physics David Mitchell <david.robot.mitchell@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> OK, what "stuff" would people be making at home?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Jewellry, utilities, tools, gadgets.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Could you be any more vague?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"Vague"?  Do you not know what jewelry and such are?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Why on Earth would anyone print jewelry?  Plastic jewelry?  ...or are
>>>>you going to print gold?  BTW, I'd like to see you print hardened
>>>>steel and water companies, too.
>>>>
>>>
>>>Do try to keep up.  The question was "what do people make at home?"
>>>The question was not "What are people 3D-Printing at home?"
>>
>>You really do have a short attention span, don't you?  Probably ADHD.
>
>Lack of content noted.

You can't understand more.
>
>>>
>>>That being said, why not?  Where do you get the silly idea that
>>>3D-printing only works for plastics?  People are 3D-printing rocket
>>>combustion chambers and you think 'hardened steel' is a problem?
>>
>>Do try to pay attention.  Maybe if you took notes.
>
>Lack of content noted.

You can't understand more.

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#468021

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2017-07-11 22:12 +0000
Message-ID<24vf3e-srm.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#468003
In sci.physics krw@notreal.com wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 13:15:28 -0700, Fred J. McCall
> <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>>jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>
>>>In sci.physics David Mitchell <david.robot.mitchell@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>
>>>>> OK, what "stuff" would people be making at home?
>>>> 
>>>> Jewellry, utilities, tools, gadgets.
>>>>
>>>
>>>Could you be any more vague?
>>>
>>
>>"Vague"?  Do you not know what jewelry and such are?
> 
> Why on Earth would anyone print jewelry?  Plastic jewelry?  ...or are
> you going to print gold?  BTW, I'd like to see you print hardened
> steel and water companies, too.

I can see a few, very few, people printing junk jewelry, mostly teenage
girls.

I can't see anyone printing an electric, gas, or water company.

Tools and gadgets are so vague they are meaningless.

-- 
Jim Pennino

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#468027

FromSpehro Pefhany <speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat>
Date2017-07-11 19:01 -0400
Message-ID<kqlamclf8eem56537qcmtlg4al3lq9791f@4ax.com>
In reply to#468021
On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 22:12:50 -0000, the renowned
jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:

>In sci.physics krw@notreal.com wrote:
>> On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 13:15:28 -0700, Fred J. McCall
>> <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>>jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>
>>>>In sci.physics David Mitchell <david.robot.mitchell@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> OK, what "stuff" would people be making at home?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Jewellry, utilities, tools, gadgets.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Could you be any more vague?
>>>>
>>>
>>>"Vague"?  Do you not know what jewelry and such are?
>> 
>> Why on Earth would anyone print jewelry?  Plastic jewelry?  ...or are
>> you going to print gold?  BTW, I'd like to see you print hardened
>> steel and water companies, too.
>
>I can see a few, very few, people printing junk jewelry, mostly teenage
>girls.

3D printing actually is quite useful as part of a bespoke
jewellery-making process. You design a 3D model using a CAD program
such as Jewelsmith, print a positive, then use investment casting to
produce a one-time mold, which is used to mold precious metal. 


>I can't see anyone printing an electric, gas, or water company.
>
>Tools and gadgets are so vague they are meaningless.

Tools? I just 3D-printed a fixture for stencil printing a PCB. It
holds a small panel (snaps into the mounting holes) and has cutouts to
allow the PCB to sit flat after parts have already been mounted on the
other side. Crude but more than good enough. A machinist would have
charged me perhaps $500 and taken days. And I would have gotten bogged
down in toolpaths and cutter compensation and such like programming it
myself in a CAM program. 

--sp 


-- 
Best regards, 
Spehro Pefhany

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#468065

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2017-07-12 02:24 +0000
Message-ID<erdg3e-4bo.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#468027
In sci.physics Spehro Pefhany <speffSNIP@interlogdotyou.knowwhat> wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 22:12:50 -0000, the renowned
> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> 
>>In sci.physics krw@notreal.com wrote:
>>> On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 13:15:28 -0700, Fred J. McCall
>>> <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>>jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>In sci.physics David Mitchell <david.robot.mitchell@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> OK, what "stuff" would people be making at home?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Jewellry, utilities, tools, gadgets.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Could you be any more vague?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Vague"?  Do you not know what jewelry and such are?
>>> 
>>> Why on Earth would anyone print jewelry?  Plastic jewelry?  ...or are
>>> you going to print gold?  BTW, I'd like to see you print hardened
>>> steel and water companies, too.
>>
>>I can see a few, very few, people printing junk jewelry, mostly teenage
>>girls.
> 
> 3D printing actually is quite useful as part of a bespoke
> jewellery-making process. You design a 3D model using a CAD program
> such as Jewelsmith, print a positive, then use investment casting to
> produce a one-time mold, which is used to mold precious metal. 

Yep, it will revolutionize the jewelry business...

>>I can't see anyone printing an electric, gas, or water company.
>>
>>Tools and gadgets are so vague they are meaningless.
> 
> Tools? I just 3D-printed a fixture for stencil printing a PCB. It
> holds a small panel (snaps into the mounting holes) and has cutouts to
> allow the PCB to sit flat after parts have already been mounted on the
> other side. Crude but more than good enough. A machinist would have
> charged me perhaps $500 and taken days. And I would have gotten bogged
> down in toolpaths and cutter compensation and such like programming it
> myself in a CAM program. 
> 
> --sp 

Something housewives across the continent have been clamoring for.
 

-- 
Jim Pennino

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#468073

FromFred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com>
Date2017-07-11 22:44 -0700
Message-ID<0ndbmc963sr1nb1ktj2djnctts4h2msjep@4ax.com>
In reply to#468065
Guy's, give up.  The Chimp's position is ALWAYS that nothing that
hasn't already been done can possibly be done or have an impact on
anything.  He can't help it.  He's a 1930's style bureaucrat.

jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:

>In sci.physics Spehro Pefhany <speffSNIP@interlogdotyou.knowwhat> wrote:
>> On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 22:12:50 -0000, the renowned
>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> 
>>>In sci.physics krw@notreal.com wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 13:15:28 -0700, Fred J. McCall
>>>> <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>>jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>In sci.physics David Mitchell <david.robot.mitchell@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> OK, what "stuff" would people be making at home?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Jewellry, utilities, tools, gadgets.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Could you be any more vague?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"Vague"?  Do you not know what jewelry and such are?
>>>> 
>>>> Why on Earth would anyone print jewelry?  Plastic jewelry?  ...or are
>>>> you going to print gold?  BTW, I'd like to see you print hardened
>>>> steel and water companies, too.
>>>
>>>I can see a few, very few, people printing junk jewelry, mostly teenage
>>>girls.
>> 
>> 3D printing actually is quite useful as part of a bespoke
>> jewellery-making process. You design a 3D model using a CAD program
>> such as Jewelsmith, print a positive, then use investment casting to
>> produce a one-time mold, which is used to mold precious metal. 
>
>Yep, it will revolutionize the jewelry business...
>
>>>I can't see anyone printing an electric, gas, or water company.
>>>
>>>Tools and gadgets are so vague they are meaningless.
>> 
>> Tools? I just 3D-printed a fixture for stencil printing a PCB. It
>> holds a small panel (snaps into the mounting holes) and has cutouts to
>> allow the PCB to sit flat after parts have already been mounted on the
>> other side. Crude but more than good enough. A machinist would have
>> charged me perhaps $500 and taken days. And I would have gotten bogged
>> down in toolpaths and cutter compensation and such like programming it
>> myself in a CAM program. 
>> 
>
>Something housewives across the continent have been clamoring for.
> 

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#468099

From"Robert Clark" <rgregoryclark@gmSPAMBLOACKail.com>
Date2017-07-12 10:24 -0400
Message-ID<ok5b7v$4ka$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#468027
"Spehro Pefhany"  wrote in message 
news:kqlamclf8eem56537qcmtlg4al3lq9791f@4ax.com...
====================================================================
...
3D printing actually is quite useful as part of a bespoke
jewellery-making process. You design a 3D model using a CAD program
such as Jewelsmith, print a positive, then use investment casting to
produce a one-time mold, which is used to mold precious metal.


>I can't see anyone printing an electric, gas, or water company.
>
>Tools and gadgets are so vague they are meaningless.

Tools? I just 3D-printed a fixture for stencil printing a PCB. It
holds a small panel (snaps into the mounting holes) and has cutouts to
allow the PCB to sit flat after parts have already been mounted on the
other side. Crude but more than good enough. A machinist would have
charged me perhaps $500 and taken days. And I would have gotten bogged
down in toolpaths and cutter compensation and such like programming it
myself in a CAM program.

--sp

-- 
Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
---
====================================================================

Since it would have required a machinist I assume it was 3D-printed in 
metal? Who did the actual 3D-printing?

  Bob Clark

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#468339

Fromkrw@notreal.com
Date2017-07-13 20:57 -0400
Message-ID<vi5gmc1nfdueenltjtsga0ovr3agn2sp4n@4ax.com>
In reply to#468099
On Wed, 12 Jul 2017 10:24:38 -0400, "Robert Clark"
<rgregoryclark@gmSPAMBLOACKail.com> wrote:

>"Spehro Pefhany"  wrote in message 
>news:kqlamclf8eem56537qcmtlg4al3lq9791f@4ax.com...
>====================================================================
>...
>3D printing actually is quite useful as part of a bespoke
>jewellery-making process. You design a 3D model using a CAD program
>such as Jewelsmith, print a positive, then use investment casting to
>produce a one-time mold, which is used to mold precious metal.

No one said that 3D printers weren't useful.  The argument is whether
they'll take over traditional manufacturing.  That is, everyone makes
what they need at home, on their magic printer.
>
>
>>I can't see anyone printing an electric, gas, or water company.
>>
>>Tools and gadgets are so vague they are meaningless.
>
>Tools? I just 3D-printed a fixture for stencil printing a PCB. It
>holds a small panel (snaps into the mounting holes) and has cutouts to
>allow the PCB to sit flat after parts have already been mounted on the
>other side. Crude but more than good enough. A machinist would have
>charged me perhaps $500 and taken days. And I would have gotten bogged
>down in toolpaths and cutter compensation and such like programming it
>myself in a CAM program.

How many people in the US would *ever* have done such?  I do this
stuff too and would no more dream of printing a stencil than
manufacturing my own PCBs.

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#468395

FromFred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com>
Date2017-07-13 23:17 -0700
Message-ID<vcogmc5jblo80dk30ren3tp1uc8dlnefam@4ax.com>
In reply to#468339
krw@notreal.com wrote:

>On Wed, 12 Jul 2017 10:24:38 -0400, "Robert Clark"
><rgregoryclark@gmSPAMBLOACKail.com> wrote:
>
>>"Spehro Pefhany"  wrote in message 
>>news:kqlamclf8eem56537qcmtlg4al3lq9791f@4ax.com...
>>====================================================================
>>...
>>3D printing actually is quite useful as part of a bespoke
>>jewellery-making process. You design a 3D model using a CAD program
>>such as Jewelsmith, print a positive, then use investment casting to
>>produce a one-time mold, which is used to mold precious metal.
>
>No one said that 3D printers weren't useful.  The argument is whether
>they'll take over traditional manufacturing.  That is, everyone makes
>what they need at home, on their magic printer.
>

That is NOT the argument for most of us.  The argument is whether they
are 'game changing' or not.  Jimp the Chimp argues that they are niche
applications at best and will never be anything else.  The
counter-argument is when you start listing niches and potential
niches, pretty soon you're changing the game in a lot of places.


-- 
"Some people get lost in thought because it's such unfamiliar
 territory."
                                      --G. Behn

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#468503

Fromkrw@notreal.com
Date2017-07-14 17:42 -0400
Message-ID<kleimcllla2ivhh7ddvhre2hfllp0su0lg@4ax.com>
In reply to#468395
On Thu, 13 Jul 2017 23:17:55 -0700, Fred J. McCall
<fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:

>krw@notreal.com wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 12 Jul 2017 10:24:38 -0400, "Robert Clark"
>><rgregoryclark@gmSPAMBLOACKail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>"Spehro Pefhany"  wrote in message 
>>>news:kqlamclf8eem56537qcmtlg4al3lq9791f@4ax.com...
>>>====================================================================
>>>...
>>>3D printing actually is quite useful as part of a bespoke
>>>jewellery-making process. You design a 3D model using a CAD program
>>>such as Jewelsmith, print a positive, then use investment casting to
>>>produce a one-time mold, which is used to mold precious metal.
>>
>>No one said that 3D printers weren't useful.  The argument is whether
>>they'll take over traditional manufacturing.  That is, everyone makes
>>what they need at home, on their magic printer.
>>
>
>That is NOT the argument for most of us.  The argument is whether they
>are 'game changing' or not.  Jimp the Chimp argues that they are niche
>applications at best and will never be anything else.  The
>counter-argument is when you start listing niches and potential
>niches, pretty soon you're changing the game in a lot of places.

The "next industrial revolution" is a bit more than you pretend above.
You're wrong.

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