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  OT:  Wow!  Reason returns to law and order... Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2017-02-06 16:29 -0700
    Re: OT:  Wow!  Reason returns to law and order... dagmargoodboat@yahoo.com - 2017-02-06 15:35 -0800
      Re: OT:  Wow!  Reason returns to law and order... Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2017-02-06 17:00 -0700
      Re: OT:  Wow!  Reason returns to law and order... pcdhobbs@gmail.com - 2017-02-06 17:16 -0800
    Re: OT:  Wow!  Reason returns to law and order... Martin Riddle <martin_ridd@verizon.net> - 2017-02-06 18:48 -0500
      Re: OT:  Wow!  Reason returns to law and order... M Philbrook <jamie_ka1lpa@charter.net> - 2017-02-06 18:57 -0500
      Re: OT:  Wow!  Reason returns to law and order... Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2017-02-06 17:02 -0700
      Re: OT:  Wow!  Reason returns to law and order... George Herold <gherold@teachspin.com> - 2017-02-07 06:36 -0800
        Re: OT:  Wow!  Reason returns to law and order... krw@notreal.com - 2017-02-07 12:36 -0500
          Re: OT:  Wow!  Reason returns to law and order... George Herold <gherold@teachspin.com> - 2017-02-07 10:36 -0800
    Re: OT: Wow! Reason returns to law and order... bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> - 2017-02-06 18:49 -0500
      Re: OT: Wow! Reason returns to law and order... Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> - 2017-02-06 17:15 -0700
        Re: OT: Wow! Reason returns to law and order... bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> - 2017-02-06 19:24 -0500
        Re: OT: Wow! Reason returns to law and order... bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> - 2017-02-06 19:35 -0500
        Re: OT: Wow! Reason returns to law and order... Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2017-02-06 17:47 -0700
          Re: OT: Wow! Reason returns to law and order... Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> - 2017-02-06 17:54 -0700
            Re: OT: Wow! Reason returns to law and order... bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> - 2017-02-06 20:16 -0500
    Re: OT:  Wow!  Reason returns to law and order... "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2017-02-06 16:37 -0800
      Re: OT: Wow! Reason returns to law and order... bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> - 2017-02-06 19:44 -0500
      Re: OT:  Wow!  Reason returns to law and order... Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2017-02-06 17:49 -0700
        Re: OT: Wow! Reason returns to law and order... bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> - 2017-02-06 19:54 -0500
          Re: OT: Wow! Reason returns to law and order... Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> - 2017-02-06 17:57 -0700
            Re: OT: Wow! Reason returns to law and order... bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> - 2017-02-06 20:02 -0500
            Re: OT: Wow! Reason returns to law and order... Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2017-02-06 18:55 -0700
              Re: OT: Wow! Reason returns to law and order... Clifford Heath <no.spam@please.net> - 2017-02-07 13:13 +1100
            Re: OT: Wow! Reason returns to law and order... bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> - 2017-02-06 21:20 -0500
              Re: OT: Wow! Reason returns to law and order... bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> - 2017-02-06 21:31 -0500
              Re: OT: Wow! Reason returns to law and order... Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2017-02-07 06:45 +0000
                Re: OT: Wow! Reason returns to law and order... bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> - 2017-02-07 13:20 -0500
            Re: OT: Wow! Reason returns to law and order... Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2017-02-07 06:32 +0000
      Re: OT: Wow! Reason returns to law and order... bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> - 2017-02-06 19:58 -0500
      Re: OT:  Wow!  Reason returns to law and order... bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-02-06 17:01 -0800
        Re: OT: Wow! Reason returns to law and order... bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> - 2017-02-06 20:06 -0500
          Re: OT: Wow! Reason returns to law and order... bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> - 2017-02-06 20:11 -0500
    Re: OT:  Wow!  Reason returns to law and order... John Larkin <jjlarkinxyxy@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-02-06 17:42 -0800
    Re: OT: Wow! Reason returns to law and order... mixed nuts <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> - 2017-02-07 10:03 -0500
      Re: OT: Wow! Reason returns to law and order... John Larkin <jjlarkinxyxy@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-02-07 11:10 -0800
        Re: OT: Wow! Reason returns to law and order... Lasse Langwadt Christensen <langwadt@fonz.dk> - 2017-02-07 12:40 -0800
          Re: OT: Wow! Reason returns to law and order... Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2017-02-07 14:51 -0700
            Re: OT: Wow! Reason returns to law and order... mixed nuts <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> - 2017-02-08 00:25 -0500
              Re: OT: Wow! Reason returns to law and order... Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> - 2017-02-08 12:19 -0500
                Re: OT: Wow! Reason returns to law and order... krw@notreal.com - 2017-02-08 12:38 -0500
                  Re: OT: Wow! Reason returns to law and order... bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-02-08 14:47 -0800
                Re: OT: Wow! Reason returns to law and order... mixed nuts <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> - 2017-02-08 17:43 -0500
            Re: OT: Wow! Reason returns to law and order... Cursitor Doom <curd@notformail.com> - 2017-02-08 21:25 +0000
              Re: OT: Wow! Reason returns to law and order... Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2017-02-08 14:37 -0700
                Re: OT: Wow! Reason returns to law and order... Cursitor Doom <curd@notformail.com> - 2017-02-08 23:24 +0000
                  Re: OT: Wow! Reason returns to law and order... pcdhobbs@gmail.com - 2017-02-08 15:30 -0800
                    Re: OT: Wow! Reason returns to law and order... Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2017-02-08 16:57 -0700
                    Re: OT: Wow! Reason returns to law and order... Cursitor Doom <curd@notformail.com> - 2017-02-10 17:06 +0000
                      Re: OT: Wow! Reason returns to law and order... Jeroen Belleman <jeroen@nospam.please> - 2017-02-10 23:49 +0100
          Re: OT: Wow! Reason returns to law and order... John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-02-07 19:18 -0800
            Re: OT: Wow! Reason returns to law and order... krw@notreal.com - 2017-02-07 22:26 -0500
    Re: OT:  Wow!  Reason returns to law and order... djlocher56@gmail.com - 2017-02-11 07:13 -0800

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#446501 — OT: Wow! Reason returns to law and order...

OT:  Wow!  Reason returns to law and order...

<http://tinyurl.com/htf4sk6>

(I only set off smoke bombs when I was in middle school, 1952-1955;
principal confiscated my supply, returned them to me at the end of the
day, and told me never to do it again, or else.  Nice guy... named
William Boyd... we called him Hopalong ;-)
		
                                        ...Jim Thompson
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#446504

On Monday, February 6, 2017 at 6:29:41 PM UTC-5, Jim Thompson wrote:
> OT:  Wow!  Reason returns to law and order...
> 
> <http://tinyurl.com/htf4sk6>
> 
> (I only set off smoke bombs when I was in middle school, 1952-1955;
> principal confiscated my supply, returned them to me at the end of the
> day, and told me never to do it again, or else.  Nice guy... named
> William Boyd... we called him Hopalong ;-)
> 		
>                                         ...Jim Thompson

I had to delete the tab quickly, but possibly not before it debited my
monthly Washington Compost ration card.

Those tinyurls--can't see where you're going, can't trust 'em.

Cheers,
James Arthur

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#446514

On Mon, 6 Feb 2017 15:35:24 -0800 (PST), dagmargoodboat@yahoo.com
wrote:

>On Monday, February 6, 2017 at 6:29:41 PM UTC-5, Jim Thompson wrote:
>> OT:  Wow!  Reason returns to law and order...
>> 
>> <http://tinyurl.com/htf4sk6>
>> 
>> (I only set off smoke bombs when I was in middle school, 1952-1955;
>> principal confiscated my supply, returned them to me at the end of the
>> day, and told me never to do it again, or else.  Nice guy... named
>> William Boyd... we called him Hopalong ;-)
>> 		
>>                                         ...Jim Thompson
>
>I had to delete the tab quickly, but possibly not before it debited my
>monthly Washington Compost ration card.
>
>Those tinyurls--can't see where you're going, can't trust 'em.
>
>Cheers,
>James Arthur

What browser are you using?  I'm seeing no such problem.
		
                                        ...Jim Thompson
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#446552

>Those tinyurls--can't see where you're going, can't trust 'em. 

If you hack up the link to point to preview.tinyurl.com, you can get a better idea.

 Me, any time I feel like clicking on one, I use a disposable VM in Qubes. They launch pretty fast and go away completely when you close the browser (or whatever program you launch in the DispVM). 

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

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#446508

On Mon, 06 Feb 2017 16:29:30 -0700, Jim Thompson
<To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote:

>OT:  Wow!  Reason returns to law and order...
>
><http://tinyurl.com/htf4sk6>
>
>(I only set off smoke bombs when I was in middle school, 1952-1955;
>principal confiscated my supply, returned them to me at the end of the
>day, and told me never to do it again, or else.  Nice guy... named
>William Boyd... we called him Hopalong ;-)
>		
>                                        ...Jim Thompson

From what I read so far on Gorsuch, he seems to be a genuine Human
being.
I hope he gets the Supreme Court seat.

Cheer

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#446510

In article <am2i9ch9ljt9l0nfguhutial8o8s6infkh@4ax.com>, 
martin_ridd@verizon.net says...
> 
> On Mon, 06 Feb 2017 16:29:30 -0700, Jim Thompson
> <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote:
> 
> >OT:  Wow!  Reason returns to law and order...
> >
> ><http://tinyurl.com/htf4sk6>
> >
> >(I only set off smoke bombs when I was in middle school, 1952-1955;
> >principal confiscated my supply, returned them to me at the end of the
> >day, and told me never to do it again, or else.  Nice guy... named
> >William Boyd... we called him Hopalong ;-)
> >		
> >                                        ...Jim Thompson
> 
> From what I read so far on Gorsuch, he seems to be a genuine Human
> being.
> I hope he gets the Supreme Court seat.
> 
> Cheer

Sure, but, the law breakers don't want someone like that.

Jamie

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#446515

On Mon, 06 Feb 2017 18:48:23 -0500, Martin Riddle
<martin_ridd@verizon.net> wrote:

>On Mon, 06 Feb 2017 16:29:30 -0700, Jim Thompson
><To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote:
>
>>OT:  Wow!  Reason returns to law and order...
>>
>><http://tinyurl.com/htf4sk6>
>>
>>(I only set off smoke bombs when I was in middle school, 1952-1955;
>>principal confiscated my supply, returned them to me at the end of the
>>day, and told me never to do it again, or else.  Nice guy... named
>>William Boyd... we called him Hopalong ;-)
>>		
>>                                        ...Jim Thompson
>
>From what I read so far on Gorsuch, he seems to be a genuine Human
>being.
>I hope he gets the Supreme Court seat.
>
>Cheer

Me too!  My kind of guy... rational.

I've always kidded my wife that the reason our sons survived their
child-hood pranks was because when she wanted to kill them I was
laughing... and keeping to myself the pranks I played ;-)
		
                                        ...Jim Thompson
-- 
| James E.Thompson                                 |    mens     |
| Analog Innovations                               |     et      |
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems  |    manus    |
| STV, Queen Creek, AZ 85142    Skype: skypeanalog |             |
| Voice:(480)460-2350  Fax: Available upon request |  Brass Rat  |
| E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com |    1962     |

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#446638

On Monday, February 6, 2017 at 6:48:29 PM UTC-5, Martin Riddle wrote:
> On Mon, 06 Feb 2017 16:29:30 -0700, Jim Thompson
> <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote:
> 
> >OT:  Wow!  Reason returns to law and order...
> >
> ><http://tinyurl.com/htf4sk6>
> >
> >(I only set off smoke bombs when I was in middle school, 1952-1955;
> >principal confiscated my supply, returned them to me at the end of the
> >day, and told me never to do it again, or else.  Nice guy... named
> >William Boyd... we called him Hopalong ;-)
> >		
> >                                        ...Jim Thompson
> 
> From what I read so far on Gorsuch, he seems to be a genuine Human
> being.
> I hope he gets the Supreme Court seat.

Me too, I just hope the R's don't have to finish dismantling the 
filibuster to get it done.  Though I fear that's coming sooner or later.

George H. 
> 
> Cheer

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#446658

On Tue, 7 Feb 2017 06:36:46 -0800 (PST), George Herold
<gherold@teachspin.com> wrote:

>On Monday, February 6, 2017 at 6:48:29 PM UTC-5, Martin Riddle wrote:
>> On Mon, 06 Feb 2017 16:29:30 -0700, Jim Thompson
>> <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote:
>> 
>> >OT:  Wow!  Reason returns to law and order...
>> >
>> ><http://tinyurl.com/htf4sk6>
>> >
>> >(I only set off smoke bombs when I was in middle school, 1952-1955;
>> >principal confiscated my supply, returned them to me at the end of the
>> >day, and told me never to do it again, or else.  Nice guy... named
>> >William Boyd... we called him Hopalong ;-)
>> >		
>> >                                        ...Jim Thompson
>> 
>> From what I read so far on Gorsuch, he seems to be a genuine Human
>> being.
>> I hope he gets the Supreme Court seat.
>
>Me too, I just hope the R's don't have to finish dismantling the 
>filibuster to get it done.  Though I fear that's coming sooner or later.

The Ds already did, except for the one appointment.  They would have
for SotUS, too, if they had reason.  There are 10 scared Ds in the
Senate so it may not happen.  *This* time. 

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#446665

On Tuesday, February 7, 2017 at 12:36:51 PM UTC-5, k...@notreal.com wrote:
> On Tue, 7 Feb 2017 06:36:46 -0800 (PST), George Herold
> <gherold@teachspin.com> wrote:
> 
> >On Monday, February 6, 2017 at 6:48:29 PM UTC-5, Martin Riddle wrote:
> >> On Mon, 06 Feb 2017 16:29:30 -0700, Jim Thompson
> >> <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote:
> >> 
> >> >OT:  Wow!  Reason returns to law and order...
> >> >
> >> ><http://tinyurl.com/htf4sk6>
> >> >
> >> >(I only set off smoke bombs when I was in middle school, 1952-1955;
> >> >principal confiscated my supply, returned them to me at the end of the
> >> >day, and told me never to do it again, or else.  Nice guy... named
> >> >William Boyd... we called him Hopalong ;-)
> >> >		
> >> >                                        ...Jim Thompson
> >> 
> >> From what I read so far on Gorsuch, he seems to be a genuine Human
> >> being.
> >> I hope he gets the Supreme Court seat.
> >
> >Me too, I just hope the R's don't have to finish dismantling the 
> >filibuster to get it done.  Though I fear that's coming sooner or later.
> 
> The Ds already did, except for the one appointment.  They would have
> for SotUS, too, if they had reason.  There are 10 scared Ds in the
> Senate so it may not happen.  *This* time.

Right, the only time I wrote to my senators.  Telling 'em what 
short sighted idiots they were... well with nicer language.  

George H. 

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#446509 — Re: OT: Wow! Reason returns to law and order...

On 02/06/2017 06:29 PM, Jim Thompson wrote:
> OT:  Wow!  Reason returns to law and order...
>
> <http://tinyurl.com/htf4sk6>
>
> (I only set off smoke bombs when I was in middle school, 1952-1955;
> principal confiscated my supply, returned them to me at the end of the
> day, and told me never to do it again, or else.  Nice guy... named
> William Boyd... we called him Hopalong ;-)
> 		
>                                         ...Jim Thompson
>

Sounds like an extreme response; usually the only times the police were 
called when I was in school was when someone found a gun in a locker, or 
drug offenses, or severe assaults

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#446521 — Re: OT: Wow! Reason returns to law and order...

On 2/6/2017 4:49 PM, bitrex wrote:
> Sounds like an extreme response; usually the only times the police were called
> when I was in school was when someone found a gun in a locker, or drug
> offenses, or severe assaults

I never saw a cop in school until high school -- when there was a brief
period when it was apparently "fashionable" to call in bomb scares.
Then, the canines would be called in to walk the premises... (while we
were warehoused in the gymnasium, cafeteria and auditorium)

When it happens once, it's cause for some misplaced cheer:  "Yay!
We just got out of English!!"

When it happens four times IN A DAY, even the students get pissy about it!

Apparently, police are now a common sight in many schools.  Apparently,
teachers losing control of their classrooms.  Students more obnoxious?
Teachers less assertive?

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#446523 — Re: OT: Wow! Reason returns to law and order...

On 02/06/2017 07:15 PM, Don Y wrote:
> On 2/6/2017 4:49 PM, bitrex wrote:
>> Sounds like an extreme response; usually the only times the police
>> were called
>> when I was in school was when someone found a gun in a locker, or drug
>> offenses, or severe assaults
>
> I never saw a cop in school until high school -- when there was a brief
> period when it was apparently "fashionable" to call in bomb scares.
> Then, the canines would be called in to walk the premises... (while we
> were warehoused in the gymnasium, cafeteria and auditorium)
>
> When it happens once, it's cause for some misplaced cheer:  "Yay!
> We just got out of English!!"
>
> When it happens four times IN A DAY, even the students get pissy about it!
>
> Apparently, police are now a common sight in many schools.  Apparently,
> teachers losing control of their classrooms.  Students more obnoxious?
> Teachers less assertive?

Maybe kids aren't really any better or worse than normal, but someone 
thought it might be a good idea to get them used to the 
military-industrial complex using their billion-dollar budgets to 
breathe down their neck every second of the day very early?

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#446525 — Re: OT: Wow! Reason returns to law and order...

On 02/06/2017 07:15 PM, Don Y wrote:
> On 2/6/2017 4:49 PM, bitrex wrote:
>> Sounds like an extreme response; usually the only times the police
>> were called
>> when I was in school was when someone found a gun in a locker, or drug
>> offenses, or severe assaults
>
> I never saw a cop in school until high school -- when there was a brief
> period when it was apparently "fashionable" to call in bomb scares.
> Then, the canines would be called in to walk the premises... (while we
> were warehoused in the gymnasium, cafeteria and auditorium)
>
> When it happens once, it's cause for some misplaced cheer:  "Yay!
> We just got out of English!!"
>
> When it happens four times IN A DAY, even the students get pissy about it!
>
> Apparently, police are now a common sight in many schools.  Apparently,
> teachers losing control of their classrooms.  Students more obnoxious?
> Teachers less assertive?

Also, I think the distancing effect of "social media" technology might 
tend to make kids more obnoxious and not cognizant of the consequences 
of their own actions, to tend to want to get all the benefits of a 
society while avoiding the responsibilities.

And philosophers have written books about it:

<https://www.amazon.com/Liquid-Love-Frailty-Human-Bonds/dp/0745624898/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1486427572&sr=8-1&keywords=liquid+love+bauman>

I definitely wouldn't mourn the demise of Facebook. Or Twitter. ;-)

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#446529 — Re: OT: Wow! Reason returns to law and order...

On Mon, 6 Feb 2017 17:15:29 -0700, Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid>
wrote:

>On 2/6/2017 4:49 PM, bitrex wrote:
>> Sounds like an extreme response; usually the only times the police were called
>> when I was in school was when someone found a gun in a locker, or drug
>> offenses, or severe assaults
>
>I never saw a cop in school until high school -- when there was a brief
>period when it was apparently "fashionable" to call in bomb scares.
>Then, the canines would be called in to walk the premises... (while we
>were warehoused in the gymnasium, cafeteria and auditorium)
>
>When it happens once, it's cause for some misplaced cheer:  "Yay!
>We just got out of English!!"
>
>When it happens four times IN A DAY, even the students get pissy about it!
>
>Apparently, police are now a common sight in many schools.  Apparently,
>teachers losing control of their classrooms.  Students more obnoxious?
>Teachers less assertive?

Fundamentals... punishment is not allowed.  That's why charter schools
are quickly taking over from "public" schools in Arizona.  Screw
around and you get expelled.
		
                                        ...Jim Thompson
-- 
| James E.Thompson                                 |    mens     |
| Analog Innovations                               |     et      |
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| Voice:(480)460-2350  Fax: Available upon request |  Brass Rat  |
| E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com |    1962     |

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#446536 — Re: OT: Wow! Reason returns to law and order...

On 2/6/2017 5:47 PM, Jim Thompson wrote:
>> Apparently, police are now a common sight in many schools.  Apparently,
>> teachers losing control of their classrooms.  Students more obnoxious?
>> Teachers less assertive?
>
> Fundamentals... punishment is not allowed.  That's why charter schools
> are quickly taking over from "public" schools in Arizona.  Screw
> around and you get expelled.

There never was *cause* for cops on campus.  Principal or teacher would
handle discipline.  "Punishment" was never anything more than suspension
(which was considered "a big deal") or "detention" (which was just an
annoyance).

Peer pressure was the primary intimidator.

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#446551 — Re: OT: Wow! Reason returns to law and order...

On 02/06/2017 07:54 PM, Don Y wrote:
> On 2/6/2017 5:47 PM, Jim Thompson wrote:
>>> Apparently, police are now a common sight in many schools.  Apparently,
>>> teachers losing control of their classrooms.  Students more obnoxious?
>>> Teachers less assertive?
>>
>> Fundamentals... punishment is not allowed.  That's why charter schools
>> are quickly taking over from "public" schools in Arizona.  Screw
>> around and you get expelled.
>
> There never was *cause* for cops on campus.  Principal or teacher would
> handle discipline.  "Punishment" was never anything more than suspension
> (which was considered "a big deal") or "detention" (which was just an
> annoyance).
>
> Peer pressure was the primary intimidator.
>

Medium and maximum-security prisons are quickly taking over from public 
schools in Arizona last I checked

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#446527

On Monday, February 6, 2017 at 3:29:41 PM UTC-8, Jim Thompson wrote:
> OT:  Wow!  Reason returns to law and order...
> 
> <http://tinyurl.com/htf4sk6>
> 
> (I only set off smoke bombs when I was in middle school, 1952-1955;
> principal confiscated my supply, returned them to me at the end of the
> day, and told me never to do it again, or else.  Nice guy... named
> William Boyd... we called him Hopalong ;-)

  My favorite bit is at the end of his opinion:

  "Often enough the law can be “a ass — a idiot,” Charles Dickens, Oliver Twist 520 (Dodd, Mead & Co. 1941) (1838) — and there is little we judges can do about it, for it is (or should be) emphatically our job to apply, not rewrite, the law enacted by the people’s representatives."

  That's probably enough to enrage the extreme Lefties right there.


  Mark L. Fergerson

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#446528 — Re: OT: Wow! Reason returns to law and order...

On 02/06/2017 07:37 PM, nuny@bid.nes wrote:
> On Monday, February 6, 2017 at 3:29:41 PM UTC-8, Jim Thompson wrote:
>> OT:  Wow!  Reason returns to law and order...
>>
>> <http://tinyurl.com/htf4sk6>
>>
>> (I only set off smoke bombs when I was in middle school, 1952-1955;
>> principal confiscated my supply, returned them to me at the end of the
>> day, and told me never to do it again, or else.  Nice guy... named
>> William Boyd... we called him Hopalong ;-)
>
>   My favorite bit is at the end of his opinion:
>
>   "Often enough the law can be “a ass — a idiot,” Charles Dickens, Oliver Twist 520 (Dodd, Mead & Co. 1941) (1838) — and there is little we judges can do about it, for it is (or should be) emphatically our job to apply, not rewrite, the law enacted by the people’s representatives."
>
>   That's probably enough to enrage the extreme Lefties right there.
>
>
>   Mark L. Fergerson
>

Only for the reason that Conservative judges are perfectly happy to 
presume to hold the moral high ground and then pretty much do whatever 
they want when their own interests are at stake.

It's sort of the "Moral Majority"'s MO

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#446530

On Mon, 6 Feb 2017 16:37:16 -0800 (PST), "nuny@bid.nes"
<Alien8752@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Monday, February 6, 2017 at 3:29:41 PM UTC-8, Jim Thompson wrote:
>> OT:  Wow!  Reason returns to law and order...
>> 
>> <http://tinyurl.com/htf4sk6>
>> 
>> (I only set off smoke bombs when I was in middle school, 1952-1955;
>> principal confiscated my supply, returned them to me at the end of the
>> day, and told me never to do it again, or else.  Nice guy... named
>> William Boyd... we called him Hopalong ;-)
>
>  My favorite bit is at the end of his opinion:
>
>  "Often enough the law can be “a ass — a idiot,” Charles Dickens, Oliver Twist 520 (Dodd, Mead & Co. 1941) (1838) — and there is little we judges can do about it, for it is (or should be) emphatically our job to apply, not rewrite, the law enacted by the people’s representatives."
>
>  That's probably enough to enrage the extreme Lefties right there.
>
>
>  Mark L. Fergerson

Indeed >:-}
		
                                        ...Jim Thompson
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