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| Started by | Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> |
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| First post | 2026-08-08 17:42 +0000 |
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This tiny gold crystal could bring quantum technology out of the deep freeze Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-08-08 17:42 +0000
Re: This tiny gold crystal could bring quantum technology out of the deep freeze legalize+jeeves@mail.xmission.com (Richard) - 2026-08-10 15:54 +0000
Re: This tiny gold crystal could bring quantum technology out of the deep freeze Jeroen Belleman <jeroen@nospam.please> - 2026-08-10 20:53 +0200
Re: This tiny gold crystal could bring quantum technology out of the deep freeze legalize+jeeves@mail.xmission.com (Richard) - 2026-08-11 15:07 +0000
Re: This tiny gold crystal could bring quantum technology out of the deep freeze John Hasler <john@sugarbit.com> - 2026-08-11 12:14 -0500
Re: This tiny gold crystal could bring quantum technology out of the deep freeze legalize+jeeves@mail.xmission.com (Richard) - 2026-08-12 23:01 +0000
Re: This tiny gold crystal could bring quantum technology out of the deep freeze john larkin <jl@htigct.com> - 2026-08-12 18:01 -0700
Re: This tiny gold crystal could bring quantum technology out of the deep freeze JM <sunaecoNoChoppedPork@gmail.com> - 2026-08-13 02:10 +0100
Re: This tiny gold crystal could bring quantum technology out of the deep freeze legalize+jeeves@mail.xmission.com (Richard) - 2026-08-13 14:06 +0000
Re: This tiny gold crystal could bring quantum technology out of the deep freeze Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-08-14 00:14 +1000
Re: This tiny gold crystal could bring quantum technology out of the deep freeze Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-08-13 15:13 +0000
Re: This tiny gold crystal could bring quantum technology out of the deep freeze JM <sunaecoNoChoppedPork@gmail.com> - 2026-08-14 18:03 +0100
Re: This tiny gold crystal could bring quantum technology out of the deep freeze john larkin <jl@htigct.com> - 2026-08-13 08:56 -0700
Re: This tiny gold crystal could bring quantum technology out of the deep freeze JM <sunaecoNoChoppedPork@gmail.com> - 2026-08-11 16:07 +0100
Re: This tiny gold crystal could bring quantum technology out of the deep freeze legalize+jeeves@mail.xmission.com (Richard) - 2026-08-12 23:01 +0000
Re: This tiny gold crystal could bring quantum technology out of the deep freeze Jeroen Belleman <jeroen@nospam.please> - 2026-08-13 10:38 +0200
Re: This tiny gold crystal could bring quantum technology out of the deep freeze john larkin <jl@htigct.com> - 2026-08-13 09:02 -0700
Re: This tiny gold crystal could bring quantum technology out of the deep freeze Jeroen Belleman <jeroen@nospam.please> - 2026-08-13 19:05 +0200
Re: This tiny gold crystal could bring quantum technology out of the deep freeze john larkin <jl@htigct.com> - 2026-08-13 13:06 -0700
Re: This tiny gold crystal could bring quantum technology out of the deep freeze Kragen Javier Sitaker <kragen@canonical.org> - 2026-09-05 23:42 -0300
Re: This tiny gold crystal could bring quantum technology out of the deep freeze Jeroen Belleman <jeroen@nospam.please> - 2026-09-06 10:14 +0200
Usent history (was Re: This tiny gold crystal could bring quantum technology out of the deep freeze) Kragen Javier Sitaker <kragen@canonical.org> - 2026-09-06 11:08 -0300
Re: Usent history (was Re: This tiny gold crystal could bring quantum technology out of the deep freeze) Cóilín Nioclásín Glostéir <thanks-to@Taf.com> - 2026-09-06 18:47 +0000
Re: This tiny gold crystal could bring quantum technology out of the deep freeze Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-08-13 18:42 +1000
Re: This tiny gold crystal could bring quantum technology out of the deep freeze Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> - 2026-08-13 00:12 +0000
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| From | Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-08-08 17:42 +0000 |
| Subject | This tiny gold crystal could bring quantum technology out of the deep freeze |
| Message-ID | <1157pqq$1n17h$1@dont-email.me> |
From: https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2026/08/260806050706.htm This tiny gold crystal could bring quantum technology out of the deep freeze Date: August 8, 2026 Source: Louisiana State University Summary: Scientists have created the first quantum material that can sort and transport different quantum states of light at room temperature, potentially removing the need for bulky, ultra-cold refrigeration systems. Built from a gold film carved with hundreds of microscopic structures, the ultrathin “metacrystal” acts like a filter that directs different kinds of quantum light along separate paths while preserving the information they carry. So 2 slit experiment multy slit experiment ??? hehe
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| From | legalize+jeeves@mail.xmission.com (Richard) |
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| Date | 2026-08-10 15:54 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <115cs6r$1q2i3$2@news.xmission.com> |
| In reply to | #746245 |
Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> spake the secret code
<1157pqq$1n17h$1@dont-email.me> thusly:
>So 2 slit experiment multy slit experiment ???
Please do tell us what electronics design you are doing that involves
this equipment or anything even closely related. For that matter,
just tell us *anything* you're actually designing or have designed.
You seem to be simply a press release copy/paster.
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| From | Jeroen Belleman <jeroen@nospam.please> |
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| Date | 2026-08-10 20:53 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <115d6o3$3cino$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #746310 |
On 8/10/26 17:54, Richard wrote: > Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> spake the secret code > <1157pqq$1n17h$1@dont-email.me> thusly: > >> So 2 slit experiment multy slit experiment ??? > > Please do tell us what electronics design you are doing that involves > this equipment or anything even closely related. For that matter, > just tell us *anything* you're actually designing or have designed. > > You seem to be simply a press release copy/paster. Jan has contributed quite a lot of electronics to the group over the years. What did you contribute? Jeroen Belleman
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| From | legalize+jeeves@mail.xmission.com (Richard) |
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| Date | 2026-08-11 15:07 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <115fdrg$1ukk3$1@news.xmission.com> |
| In reply to | #746318 |
Jeroen Belleman <jeroen@nospam.please> spake the secret code
<115d6o3$3cino$1@dont-email.me> thusly:
>On 8/10/26 17:54, Richard wrote:
>> Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> spake the secret code
>> <1157pqq$1n17h$1@dont-email.me> thusly:
>>
>>> So 2 slit experiment multy slit experiment ???
>>
>> Please do tell us what electronics design you are doing that involves
>> this equipment or anything even closely related. For that matter,
>> just tell us *anything* you're actually designing or have designed.
>>
>> You seem to be simply a press release copy/paster.
>
>Jan has contributed quite a lot of electronics to the group over
>the years. What did you contribute?
My news spool doesn't go back years, it only holds 30 days or so. In
that time I just seem him copy/pasting press releases.
I already posted a list of stuff I'm working on in a previous
discussion around his copy/paste press releases. I'm happy to discuss
any of that.
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| From | John Hasler <john@sugarbit.com> |
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| Date | 2026-08-11 12:14 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <87bjb837gx.fsf@sugarbit.com> |
| In reply to | #746340 |
If you find his postings tedious put him in your killfile and move on. -- John Hasler john@sugarbit.com Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI USA
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| From | legalize+jeeves@mail.xmission.com (Richard) |
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| Date | 2026-08-12 23:01 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <115iu09$24gjn$2@news.xmission.com> |
| In reply to | #746349 |
John Hasler <john@sugarbit.com> spake the secret code
<87bjb837gx.fsf@sugarbit.com> thusly:
>If you find his postings tedious put him in your killfile and move on.
You're not the boss of me.
--
"The Direct3D Graphics Pipeline" free book <http://tinyurl.com/d3d-pipeline>
The Terminals Wiki <http://terminals-wiki.org>
The Computer Graphics Museum <http://computergraphicsmuseum.org>
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| From | john larkin <jl@htigct.com> |
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| Date | 2026-08-12 18:01 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <gr5q7lpdaqm500jn52v9b8pvqb0uijtftk@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #746383 |
On Wed, 12 Aug 2026 23:01:29 -0000 (UTC), legalize+jeeves@mail.xmission.com (Richard) wrote: >John Hasler <john@sugarbit.com> spake the secret code ><87bjb837gx.fsf@sugarbit.com> thusly: > >>If you find his postings tedious put him in your killfile and move on. > >You're not the boss of me. Gosh. Nasty.
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| From | JM <sunaecoNoChoppedPork@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2026-08-13 02:10 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <ca6q7ldndrrvmho8mfj8tc3i0edmc74ar5@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #746386 |
On Wed, 12 Aug 2026 18:01:54 -0700, john larkin <jl@htigct.com> wrote: >>>If you find his postings tedious put him in your killfile and move on. >> >>You're not the boss of me. > >Gosh. Nasty. Careful! He'll pull on his leather chaps and give your buttocks a good spanking.
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| From | legalize+jeeves@mail.xmission.com (Richard) |
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| Date | 2026-08-13 14:06 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <115kj1j$27ktp$2@news.xmission.com> |
| In reply to | #746387 |
JM <sunaecoNoChoppedPork@gmail.com> spake the secret code
<ca6q7ldndrrvmho8mfj8tc3i0edmc74ar5@4ax.com> thusly:
>On Wed, 12 Aug 2026 18:01:54 -0700, john larkin <jl@htigct.com> wrote:
>
>>>>If you find his postings tedious put him in your killfile and move on.
>>>
>>>You're not the boss of me.
>>
>>Gosh. Nasty.
>
>Careful!
>
>He'll pull on his leather chaps and give your buttocks a good
>spanking.
You guys are really inept at flaming.
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| From | Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> |
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| Date | 2026-08-14 00:14 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <115kjg6$1mu06$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #746416 |
On 14/08/2026 12:06 am, Richard wrote: > JM <sunaecoNoChoppedPork@gmail.com> spake the secret code > <ca6q7ldndrrvmho8mfj8tc3i0edmc74ar5@4ax.com> thusly: > >> On Wed, 12 Aug 2026 18:01:54 -0700, john larkin <jl@htigct.com> wrote: >> >>>>> If you find his postings tedious put him in your killfile and move on. >>>> >>>> You're not the boss of me. >>> >>> Gosh. Nasty. >> >> Careful! >> >> He'll pull on his leather chaps and give your buttocks a good >> spanking. > > You guys are really inept at flaming. It is sci.electronics.design not alt.flame. You want to get flamed? Go someplace where the skill (such as it is) is taken seriously. -- Bill Sloman, Sydney
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| From | Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-08-13 15:13 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <115kmvn$1o818$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #746416 |
>legalize+jeeves@mail.xmission.com (Richard)wrote: >>JM <sunaecoNoChoppedPork@gmail.com> spake the secret code ><ca6q7ldndrrvmho8mfj8tc3i0edmc74ar5@4ax.com> thusly: > >>On Wed, 12 Aug 2026 18:01:54 -0700, john larkin <jl@htigct.com> wrote: >> >>>>>If you find his postings tedious put him in your killfile and move on. >>>> >>>>You're not the boss of me. >>> >>>Gosh. Nasty. >> >>Careful! >> >>He'll pull on his leather chaps and give your buttocks a good >>spanking. > >You guys are really inept at flaming. I dunno who or what you are but if you keep attacking me then I was thinking about advertising online for a lawyer or lawyer group that sues you and your boss for an amount that is similar to what happened to those google guys pestering some blogger. And this is not a closed group. All you have done do far is make trouble. Get the fuck out of here. And if that does not work ;-) Anyways kill file for you.
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| From | JM <sunaecoNoChoppedPork@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2026-08-14 18:03 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <ceiu7lp9ib1bv855hjifo08315ev85v5d9@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #746418 |
On Thu, 13 Aug 2026 15:13:58 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> wrote: >I dunno who or what you are but if you keep attacking me then I was thinking about advertising online for a lawyer or lawyer group >that sues you and your boss for an amount that is similar to what happened to those google guys pestering some blogger. That's a bit OTT Jan, I'm sure Richard is a perfectly pleasant fellow in person. Send him a couple of space cakes to take the edge off of things...
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| From | john larkin <jl@htigct.com> |
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| Date | 2026-08-13 08:56 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <p4qr7llt3gatr70n72f1dh6jjgqkpliff6@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #746387 |
On Thu, 13 Aug 2026 02:10:57 +0100, JM <sunaecoNoChoppedPork@gmail.com> wrote: >On Wed, 12 Aug 2026 18:01:54 -0700, john larkin <jl@htigct.com> wrote: > >>>>If you find his postings tedious put him in your killfile and move on. >>> >>>You're not the boss of me. >> >>Gosh. Nasty. > >Careful! > >He'll pull on his leather chaps and give your buttocks a good >spanking. These netcops wouldn't dare be so nasty in real life. Somebody would take them out back and decorate them with blood, and they know it.
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| From | JM <sunaecoNoChoppedPork@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2026-08-11 16:07 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <ohem7lptsvtfs321p0gc6vucuf121rumfj@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #746318 |
On Mon, 10 Aug 2026 20:53:54 +0200, Jeroen Belleman <jeroen@nospam.please> wrote: >Jan has contributed quite a lot of electronics to the group over >the years. What did you contribute? The lad is heading for a stroke getting into such a state over usenet posts.
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| From | legalize+jeeves@mail.xmission.com (Richard) |
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| Date | 2026-08-12 23:01 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <115itvo$24gjn$1@news.xmission.com> |
| In reply to | #746341 |
JM <sunaecoNoChoppedPork@gmail.com> spake the secret code
<ohem7lptsvtfs321p0gc6vucuf121rumfj@4ax.com> thusly:
>On Mon, 10 Aug 2026 20:53:54 +0200, Jeroen Belleman
><jeroen@nospam.please> wrote:
>
>>Jan has contributed quite a lot of electronics to the group over
>>the years. What did you contribute?
>
>The lad is heading for a stroke getting into such a state over usenet
>posts.
I guess you're new to usenet. Policing off-topic posts has been a
thing since the beginning.
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| From | Jeroen Belleman <jeroen@nospam.please> |
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| Date | 2026-08-13 10:38 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <115jvq6$1f7ih$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #746382 |
On 8/13/26 01:01, Richard wrote: > JM <sunaecoNoChoppedPork@gmail.com> spake the secret code > <ohem7lptsvtfs321p0gc6vucuf121rumfj@4ax.com> thusly: > >> On Mon, 10 Aug 2026 20:53:54 +0200, Jeroen Belleman >> <jeroen@nospam.please> wrote: >> >>> Jan has contributed quite a lot of electronics to the group over >>> the years. What did you contribute? >> >> The lad is heading for a stroke getting into such a state over usenet >> posts. > > I guess you're new to usenet. Policing off-topic posts has been a > thing since the beginning. In the beginning, only civilized people knew of, and used, usenet. They were all polite, reasonable and knowledgeable. There were only a few groups and it was easy to follow and read *all* of it. We used the newsreader 'rn' over 4800 baud connections to a pdp-11 running Unix and a dumb VT100 terminal. The web didn't exist. Berners-Lee didn't even work at CERN yet. Insecure? You bet! But security wasn't yet needed. Everyone cooperated to make things run better! There were hackers, sure, but they weren't malicious, just curious. Those days are far behind us now. The pioneers have retired or died and rabble has taken over. Jeroen Belleman
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| From | john larkin <jl@htigct.com> |
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| Date | 2026-08-13 09:02 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <7dqr7l184ats8gdv7m1g9uml3cujkrai64@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #746405 |
On Thu, 13 Aug 2026 10:38:30 +0200, Jeroen Belleman <jeroen@nospam.please> wrote: >On 8/13/26 01:01, Richard wrote: >> JM <sunaecoNoChoppedPork@gmail.com> spake the secret code >> <ohem7lptsvtfs321p0gc6vucuf121rumfj@4ax.com> thusly: >> >>> On Mon, 10 Aug 2026 20:53:54 +0200, Jeroen Belleman >>> <jeroen@nospam.please> wrote: >>> >>>> Jan has contributed quite a lot of electronics to the group over >>>> the years. What did you contribute? >>> >>> The lad is heading for a stroke getting into such a state over usenet >>> posts. >> >> I guess you're new to usenet. Policing off-topic posts has been a >> thing since the beginning. > >In the beginning, only civilized people knew of, and used, usenet. >They were all polite, reasonable and knowledgeable. There were only >a few groups and it was easy to follow and read *all* of it. We used >the newsreader 'rn' over 4800 baud connections to a pdp-11 running >Unix and a dumb VT100 terminal. The web didn't exist. Berners-Lee >didn't even work at CERN yet. > >Insecure? You bet! But security wasn't yet needed. Everyone cooperated >to make things run better! There were hackers, sure, but they weren't >malicious, just curious. > >Those days are far behind us now. The pioneers have retired or died >and rabble has taken over. > >Jeroen Belleman All true, but please don't insult the PDP-11. It was a beautiful machine. Pity we went the barbaric 4004-8008-x86-windows route.
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| From | Jeroen Belleman <jeroen@nospam.please> |
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| Date | 2026-08-13 19:05 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <115ktgr$1qh71$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #746421 |
On 8/13/26 18:02, john larkin wrote: > On Thu, 13 Aug 2026 10:38:30 +0200, Jeroen Belleman > <jeroen@nospam.please> wrote: > >> On 8/13/26 01:01, Richard wrote: >>> JM <sunaecoNoChoppedPork@gmail.com> spake the secret code >>> <ohem7lptsvtfs321p0gc6vucuf121rumfj@4ax.com> thusly: >>> >>>> On Mon, 10 Aug 2026 20:53:54 +0200, Jeroen Belleman >>>> <jeroen@nospam.please> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Jan has contributed quite a lot of electronics to the group over >>>>> the years. What did you contribute? >>>> >>>> The lad is heading for a stroke getting into such a state over usenet >>>> posts. >>> >>> I guess you're new to usenet. Policing off-topic posts has been a >>> thing since the beginning. >> >> In the beginning, only civilized people knew of, and used, usenet. >> They were all polite, reasonable and knowledgeable. There were only >> a few groups and it was easy to follow and read *all* of it. We used >> the newsreader 'rn' over 4800 baud connections to a pdp-11 running >> Unix and a dumb VT100 terminal. The web didn't exist. Berners-Lee >> didn't even work at CERN yet. >> >> Insecure? You bet! But security wasn't yet needed. Everyone cooperated >> to make things run better! There were hackers, sure, but they weren't >> malicious, just curious. >> >> Those days are far behind us now. The pioneers have retired or died >> and rabble has taken over. >> >> Jeroen Belleman > > All true, but please don't insult the PDP-11. It was a beautiful > machine. > > Pity we went the barbaric 4004-8008-x86-windows route. > Imagine a PDP-11, or a 68k-like machine, running at 2GHz... Alas, money makes the choice, and it often chooses wrong. Jeroen Belleman
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| From | john larkin <jl@htigct.com> |
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| Date | 2026-08-13 13:06 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <tm8s7lt0714a6q2hne893qbu6k8tvs11jp@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #746427 |
On Thu, 13 Aug 2026 19:05:31 +0200, Jeroen Belleman <jeroen@nospam.please> wrote: >On 8/13/26 18:02, john larkin wrote: >> On Thu, 13 Aug 2026 10:38:30 +0200, Jeroen Belleman >> <jeroen@nospam.please> wrote: >> >>> On 8/13/26 01:01, Richard wrote: >>>> JM <sunaecoNoChoppedPork@gmail.com> spake the secret code >>>> <ohem7lptsvtfs321p0gc6vucuf121rumfj@4ax.com> thusly: >>>> >>>>> On Mon, 10 Aug 2026 20:53:54 +0200, Jeroen Belleman >>>>> <jeroen@nospam.please> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Jan has contributed quite a lot of electronics to the group over >>>>>> the years. What did you contribute? >>>>> >>>>> The lad is heading for a stroke getting into such a state over usenet >>>>> posts. >>>> >>>> I guess you're new to usenet. Policing off-topic posts has been a >>>> thing since the beginning. >>> >>> In the beginning, only civilized people knew of, and used, usenet. >>> They were all polite, reasonable and knowledgeable. There were only >>> a few groups and it was easy to follow and read *all* of it. We used >>> the newsreader 'rn' over 4800 baud connections to a pdp-11 running >>> Unix and a dumb VT100 terminal. The web didn't exist. Berners-Lee >>> didn't even work at CERN yet. >>> >>> Insecure? You bet! But security wasn't yet needed. Everyone cooperated >>> to make things run better! There were hackers, sure, but they weren't >>> malicious, just curious. >>> >>> Those days are far behind us now. The pioneers have retired or died >>> and rabble has taken over. >>> >>> Jeroen Belleman >> >> All true, but please don't insult the PDP-11. It was a beautiful >> machine. >> >> Pity we went the barbaric 4004-8008-x86-windows route. >> > >Imagine a PDP-11, or a 68k-like machine, running at 2GHz... >Alas, money makes the choice, and it often chooses wrong. > >Jeroen Belleman I think here was a non-microcoded sorta-RISC version of the 68K. I'm thinking that the future should be a 256 or 1024 or 4096 core RiscV on a chip. And a suitable new OS.
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| From | Kragen Javier Sitaker <kragen@canonical.org> |
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| Date | 2026-09-05 23:42 -0300 |
| Message-ID | <87h5k3je1i.fsf@debian> |
| In reply to | #746405 |
Jeroen Belleman <jeroen@nospam.please> writes: > In the beginning, only civilized people knew of, and used, usenet. > They were all polite, reasonable and knowledgeable. There were only > a few groups and it was easy to follow and read *all* of it. We used > the newsreader 'rn' over 4800 baud connections to a pdp-11 I think you have forgotten Bandygrams. There was never a time when everyone on Usenet was polite and reasonable. Knowledgeable, maybe. Kragen
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