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Re: Forever Power (almost)

From	rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com>
Newsgroups	sci.electronics.design
Subject	Re: Forever Power (almost)
Date	2017-05-16 10:14 -0400
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On 5/16/2017 10:10 AM, tabbypurr@gmail.com wrote:
> On Tuesday, 16 May 2017 15:06:27 UTC+1, John Larkin  wrote:
>> On Tue, 16 May 2017 04:11:37 -0400, oldschool@tubes.com wrote:
>
>>> This is just a stupid idea that I had, which will acomplish nothing,
>>> other than see how long it lasts.
>>>
>>> I dont know how much a standard 12V 5 amp battery charger requires from
>>> the 120Vac power line, but I read it was around 150 watts.
>>>
>>> So, lets say I connect a 200W inverter to a car battery. Then plug into
>>> that inverter, a 12V 5A battery charger, and connect the leads from that
>>> charger to the battery that is powering the inverter.
>>>
>>> So, it's an endless loop, the power being drained from the battery is
>>> being recharged by itself thru an inverter and battery charger.
>>>
>>> How long would this actually work? I know there is going to be some loss
>>> due to heat in the inverter and the charger too, so this really would
>>> not last forever, but just how long would it last????
>>
>> I invented the motor-generator perpetual motion machine when I was 7
>> years old. An older guy explained why it wouldn't work; I think he was
>> 9.
>
> Heh. Even if it could be got to work you couldn't extract any energy or it would stop.

Energy can be extracted as long as it is less than a quantum.  Then the 
net balance of the remainder doesn't change.  Take all the fractions of 
quantum you have and add them up and you will have a bunch of free energy!

-- 

Rick C

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Forever Power (almost) oldschool@tubes.com - 2017-05-16 04:11 -0400
  Re: Forever Power (almost) mike <ham789@netzero.net> - 2017-05-16 02:24 -0700
    Re: Forever Power (almost) Aussie <aussie@none.com.au> - 2017-05-16 19:36 +0800
  Re: Forever Power (almost) Clifford Heath <clifford.heath@gmail.com> - 2017-05-16 17:56 +1000
  Re: Forever Power (almost) John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-05-16 07:06 -0700
    Re: Forever Power (almost) tabbypurr@gmail.com - 2017-05-16 07:10 -0700
      Re: Forever Power (almost) rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-16 10:14 -0400
    Re: Forever Power (almost) George Herold <gherold@teachspin.com> - 2017-05-16 08:48 -0700
      Re: Forever Power (almost) John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-05-16 09:01 -0700
        Re: Forever Power (almost) tabbypurr@gmail.com - 2017-05-16 09:10 -0700
    Re: Forever Power (almost) bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> - 2017-05-20 07:40 -0400
  Re: Forever Power (almost) Tim Wescott <tim@seemywebsite.really> - 2017-05-16 10:03 -0500
  Re: Forever Power (almost) krw@notreal.com - 2017-05-16 12:34 -0400
  Re: Forever Power (almost) Jon Elson <jmelson@wustl.edu> - 2017-05-16 13:28 -0500
    Re: Forever Power (almost) mike <ham789@netzero.net> - 2017-05-16 15:15 -0700
  Re: Forever Power (almost) bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com - 2017-05-16 14:24 -0700
  Re: Forever Power (almost) Rheilly Phoull <rheilly@bigslong.com> - 2017-05-17 09:25 +0800
  Re: Forever Power (almost) Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2017-05-18 20:38 +0000
  Re: Forever Power (almost) jurb6006@gmail.com - 2017-05-18 15:42 -0700
    Re: Forever Power (almost) Jon Elson <elson@pico-systems.com> - 2017-05-19 23:02 -0500
      Re: Forever Power (almost) mike <ham789@netzero.net> - 2017-05-19 22:05 -0700
      Re: Forever Power (almost) Neon John <no@never.com> - 2017-05-27 10:43 -0400
        Re: Forever Power (almost) tabbypurr@gmail.com - 2017-05-27 09:23 -0700
          Re: Forever Power (almost) krw@notreal.com - 2017-05-27 14:35 -0400
            Re: Forever Power (almost) tabbypurr@gmail.com - 2017-05-27 11:41 -0700
              Re: Forever Power (almost) krw@notreal.com - 2017-05-27 19:58 -0400
                Re: Forever Power (almost) tabbypurr@gmail.com - 2017-05-27 17:36 -0700
          Re: Forever Power (almost) Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2017-05-27 12:15 -0700

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