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Re: An old "500MC biquinary counter"

From Piglet <erichpwagner@hotmail.com>
Newsgroups sci.electronics.design
Subject Re: An old "500MC biquinary counter"
Date 2017-02-10 20:32 +0000
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On 10/02/2017 17:10, Joerg wrote:
> On 2017-02-10 08:39, bitrex wrote:
>> What are D1-D5?
>>
>> http://www.seekic.com/uploadfile/ic-circuit/s2009713233931554.gif
>
>
> Could they be Shockley diodes? Those are similar to SCRs but without a
> gate connection and can only be triggered via avalanche breakdown or dv/dt.
>

Yeah could be Shockley diodes (aka 4-layer diodes) but last time I saw 
one in a schematic the symbol was different. However they are not 
hi-speed parts and even in their heyday would not have seen use at 00s 
of kilohertz let alone megahertz.

Diac is a still-available kindof breakover diode but higher voltage and 
bidirectional. 4-layer diodes I saw were made with breakover voltages 
from 8 to 22V and 5-10% tolerance. TC was remarkable good and they made 
good semi-precise timers (but not for nano-seconds). Diacs typically 
breakover 28-35V and are not tightly specified.

Another option is that is just an old symbol for a zener diode?

But for those speeds I reckon they must be tunnel diodes. That would tie 
in with the emitter coupled logic and 10mA tail current. Tunnel diodes 
are fast. Due to the very high doping some older ones have now diffused 
themselves into mush.


piglet

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An old "500MC biquinary counter" bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> - 2017-02-10 11:39 -0500
  Re: An old "500MC biquinary counter" Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> - 2017-02-10 09:10 -0800
    Re: An old "500MC biquinary counter" "tom" <tmiller11147@verizon.net> - 2017-02-10 13:24 -0500
      Re: An old "500MC biquinary counter" John Larkin <jjlarkinxyxy@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-02-10 11:30 -0800
        Re: An old "500MC biquinary counter" pcdhobbs@gmail.com - 2017-02-10 12:36 -0800
          Re: An old "500MC biquinary counter" John Larkin <jjlarkinxyxy@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-02-10 14:15 -0800
            Re: An old "500MC biquinary counter" Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> - 2017-02-10 13:16 -0500
              Re: An old "500MC biquinary counter" John Larkin <jjlarkinxyxy@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-02-10 16:14 -0800
                Re: An old "500MC biquinary counter" Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> - 2017-02-10 19:19 -0500
    Re: An old "500MC biquinary counter" pcdhobbs@gmail.com - 2017-02-10 10:23 -0800
      Re: An old "500MC biquinary counter" Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> - 2017-02-10 11:16 -0800
        Re: An old "500MC biquinary counter" John Larkin <jjlarkinxyxy@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-02-10 11:27 -0800
        Re: An old "500MC biquinary counter" pcdhobbs@gmail.com - 2017-02-10 12:32 -0800
          Re: An old "500MC biquinary counter" bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-02-10 16:05 -0800
          Re: An old "500MC biquinary counter" "Tim Williams" <tiwill@seventransistorlabs.com> - 2017-02-11 10:28 -0600
    Re: An old "500MC biquinary counter" Piglet <erichpwagner@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-10 20:32 +0000
      Re: An old "500MC biquinary counter" Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> - 2017-02-10 13:26 -0800
        Re: An old "500MC biquinary counter" Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> - 2017-02-10 12:50 -0500
          Re: An old "500MC biquinary counter" Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> - 2017-02-10 14:55 -0800
            Re: An old "500MC biquinary counter" - 500 MC Bi-Quinary Counter.gif (0/1) Dave M <dgminala at mediacombb dot net> - 2017-02-10 18:41 -0600
              Re: An old "500MC biquinary counter" - 500 MC Bi-Quinary Counter.gif (0/1) "Dave M" <dgminala@mediacombb.net> - 2017-02-10 18:50 -0600
                Re: An old "500MC biquinary counter" - 500 MC Bi-Quinary Counter.gif (0/1) Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> - 2017-02-10 16:58 -0800
                Re: An old "500MC biquinary counter" - 500 MC Bi-Quinary Counter.gif (0/1) Clifford Heath <no.spam@please.net> - 2017-02-11 14:29 +1100
                Re: An old "500MC biquinary counter" - 500 MC Bi-Quinary Counter.gif (0/1) whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com> - 2017-02-11 02:48 -0800
            Re: An old "500MC biquinary counter" Piglet <erichpwagner@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-11 11:00 +0000
          Re: An old "500MC biquinary counter" "Tom Del Rosso" <fizzbintuesday@that-google-mail-domain.com> - 2017-02-11 20:57 -0500
            Re: An old "500MC biquinary counter" krw@notreal.com - 2017-02-11 22:07 -0500
            Re: An old "500MC biquinary counter" Clifford Heath <no.spam@please.net> - 2017-02-12 18:21 +1100
              Re: An old "500MC biquinary counter" krw@notreal.com - 2017-02-12 17:04 -0500
      Re: An old "500MC biquinary counter" Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2017-02-10 14:40 -0700
        Re: An old "500MC biquinary counter" bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> - 2017-02-10 17:59 -0500
        Re: An old "500MC biquinary counter" bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> - 2017-02-10 18:04 -0500
          Re: An old "500MC biquinary counter" dagmargoodboat@yahoo.com - 2017-02-11 06:41 -0800
  Re: An old "500MC biquinary counter" rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-02-11 07:10 -0500
    Re: An old "500MC biquinary counter" bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> - 2017-02-11 11:36 -0500

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