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Re: heatpump vs furnace

From Winfield Hill <hill@rowland.harvard.edu>
Newsgroups sci.electronics.design
Subject Re: heatpump vs furnace
Date 2016-10-12 09:46 -0700
Organization Rowland Institute
Message-ID <ntlpd0017fm@drn.newsguy.com> (permalink)
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Ecnerwal wrote...
>
>In article <ntlc010ihl@drn.newsguy.com>,
> Winfield Hill <hill@rowland.harvard.edu> wrote:
>
>> instructions to change to 50 degrees.  They claim
>> heatpump heating is cheaper than oil, but I doubt
>> it!  Anybody have experience with a hybrid system?
>
> That depends very much on the specifics of the heat pump 
> (COP) and the price of the two fuels, and the efficiency
> of the oil burner. In many cases it's true, particularly
> with a proper cold-climate heat pump (which a 40 F
> switchover - does not sound like.)
>
> The good cold-climate mini-splits will put out 3X the heat
> (COP of 3 or more) as the electricity put into them, and
> operate effectively down to sub-zero F temperatures.

 Whoa, 3x!  Is that at high outside temps?  Apparently
 my system will work fine to far below freezing (runs
 at 40-degrees with a modest duty cycle), even includes
 automatic defrost features.  Maybe the default 40-degree
 setting is considered an economic tradeoff point.  Our 
 installer says the electric heat-pump is cheaper down
 to 40 degrees; clearly I need to research the numbers.


-- 
 Thanks,
    - Win

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    Re: 10 mega-watt hours Winfield Hill <hill@rowland.harvard.edu> - 2016-10-07 17:14 -0700
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            Re: heatpump vs furnace Winfield Hill <hill@rowland.harvard.edu> - 2016-10-12 09:46 -0700
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            Re: heatpump vs furnace Winfield Hill <hill@rowland.harvard.edu> - 2016-10-12 09:39 -0700
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            Re: heatpump vs furnace Winfield Hill <hill@rowland.harvard.edu> - 2016-10-13 06:10 -0700
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