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Re: Abusing brick on the rope

From Mikko OH2HVJ <mikko.syrjalahti@nospam.fi>
Newsgroups sci.electronics.design
Subject Re: Abusing brick on the rope
Date 2018-10-03 12:39 +0300
Organization A noiseless patient Spider
Message-ID <m2o9cbjrnk.fsf@nospam.fi> (permalink)
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George Herold <gherold@teachspin.com> writes:

> Hi all, I just got done fixing a piece of apparatus that was returned
> to us.  The thing was trashed, (all sorts of blown components) and
> I've been trying to figure out what happened.  Perhaps what I found
> weirdest is a power monitor
> LED.  This sits across the +/-15 V rails, with a 12V zener and 5 k ohm 
> resistor in series.  (the zener stops it from turning on if one of the rails 
> fails.)  It just barley put out any light.... trashed.  
> It can take 30 mA forward so >~150 V for too much current.  
> And in reverse it doesn't break down till -80 V. 
> (I just tested it... it shows a photo response too, 
> but don't distract me.) 

How about this:
1. Ungrounded power supply with filter caps
2. Hot connection of power plug so that GND connects after supply rails
3. Apparatus grounded through some other route

This could discharge the mains filter cap through the power
rail. Depending on what's on the rail, the positive/negative discharge
could go through the LED.

--
mikko

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Abusing brick on the rope George Herold <gherold@teachspin.com> - 2018-10-02 12:55 -0700
  Re: Abusing brick on the rope tabbypurr@gmail.com - 2018-10-02 13:12 -0700
    Re: Abusing brick on the rope George Herold <gherold@teachspin.com> - 2018-10-02 13:35 -0700
      Re: Abusing brick on the rope tabbypurr@gmail.com - 2018-10-02 16:13 -0700
        Re: Abusing brick on the rope George Herold <gherold@teachspin.com> - 2018-10-02 17:04 -0700
          Re: Abusing brick on the rope George Herold <gherold@teachspin.com> - 2018-10-02 17:19 -0700
            Re: Abusing brick on the rope tabbypurr@gmail.com - 2018-10-02 17:47 -0700
            Re: Abusing brick on the rope Lasse Langwadt Christensen <langwadt@fonz.dk> - 2018-10-02 18:16 -0700
            Re: Abusing brick on the rope Jon Elson <elson@pico-systems.com> - 2018-10-03 14:09 -0500
              Re: Abusing brick on the rope George Herold <gherold@teachspin.com> - 2018-10-03 17:37 -0700
              Re: Abusing brick on the rope <698839253X6D445TD@nospam.org> - 2018-10-04 06:19 +0000
      Re: Abusing brick on the rope DLUNU <DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@DLU.org> - 2018-10-03 01:47 +0000
        Re: Abusing brick on the rope George Herold <gherold@teachspin.com> - 2018-10-03 06:11 -0700
          Re: Abusing brick on the rope Steve Wilson <no@spam.com> - 2018-10-03 13:17 +0000
            Re: Abusing brick on the rope George Herold <gherold@teachspin.com> - 2018-10-03 06:36 -0700
              Re: Abusing brick on the rope gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com - 2018-10-03 10:02 -0700
              Re: Abusing brick on the rope krw@notreal.com - 2018-10-03 22:14 -0400
            Re: Abusing brick on the rope DLUNU <DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@DLU.org> - 2018-10-03 16:27 +0000
              Re: Abusing brick on the rope gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com - 2018-10-03 10:04 -0700
          Re: Abusing brick on the rope DLUNU <DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@DLU.org> - 2018-10-03 16:25 +0000
  Re: Abusing brick on the rope piglet <erichpwagner@hotmail.com> - 2018-10-02 21:25 +0100
    Re: Abusing brick on the rope George Herold <gherold@teachspin.com> - 2018-10-02 13:48 -0700
      Re: Abusing brick on the rope Jon Elson <elson@pico-systems.com> - 2018-10-03 14:15 -0500
        Re: Abusing brick on the rope Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com> - 2018-10-03 15:18 -0700
          Re: Abusing brick on the rope tabbypurr@gmail.com - 2018-10-03 17:26 -0700
            Re: Abusing brick on the rope George Herold <gherold@teachspin.com> - 2018-10-03 17:52 -0700
          Re: Abusing brick on the rope George Herold <gherold@teachspin.com> - 2018-10-03 17:45 -0700
          Re: Abusing brick on the rope George Herold <gherold@teachspin.com> - 2018-10-11 12:22 -0700
  Re: Abusing brick on the rope John Robertson <spam@flippers.com> - 2018-10-02 15:32 -0700
  Re: Abusing brick on the rope Lasse Langwadt Christensen <langwadt@fonz.dk> - 2018-10-02 15:56 -0700
  Re: Abusing brick on the rope Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2018-10-03 00:58 +0000
  Re: Abusing brick on the rope Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com> - 2018-10-02 23:23 -0700
    Re: Abusing brick on the rope George Herold <gherold@teachspin.com> - 2018-10-03 06:16 -0700
  Re: Abusing brick on the rope Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com> - 2018-10-02 23:25 -0700
  Re: Abusing brick on the rope <698839253X6D445TD@nospam.org> - 2018-10-03 07:30 +0000
    Re: Abusing brick on the rope George Herold <gherold@teachspin.com> - 2018-10-03 06:19 -0700
      Re: Abusing brick on the rope <698839253X6D445TD@nospam.org> - 2018-10-03 14:01 +0000
        Re: Abusing brick on the rope George Herold <gherold@teachspin.com> - 2018-10-03 07:12 -0700
          Re: Abusing brick on the rope <698839253X6D445TD@nospam.org> - 2018-10-04 06:20 +0000
    Re: Abusing brick on the rope Jon Elson <elson@pico-systems.com> - 2018-10-03 14:20 -0500
      Re: Abusing brick on the rope Lasse Langwadt Christensen <langwadt@fonz.dk> - 2018-10-03 12:27 -0700
        Re: Abusing brick on the rope George Herold <gherold@teachspin.com> - 2018-10-03 17:58 -0700
          Re: Abusing brick on the rope <698839253X6D445TD@nospam.org> - 2018-10-04 06:20 +0000
      Re: Abusing brick on the rope George Herold <gherold@teachspin.com> - 2018-10-03 17:36 -0700
  Re: Abusing brick on the rope Mikko OH2HVJ <mikko.syrjalahti@nospam.fi> - 2018-10-03 12:39 +0300
    Re: Abusing brick on the rope George Herold <gherold@teachspin.com> - 2018-10-03 06:22 -0700
  Re: Abusing brick on the rope Ingvald44 <noone@nowhere.com> - 2018-10-03 08:02 -0400
  Re: Abusing brick on the rope Jon Elson <elson@pico-systems.com> - 2018-10-03 14:07 -0500
    Re: Abusing brick on the rope George Herold <gherold@teachspin.com> - 2018-10-03 17:24 -0700
      Re: Abusing brick on the rope Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> - 2018-10-04 12:45 -0400
        Re: Abusing brick on the rope George Herold <gherold@teachspin.com> - 2018-10-04 10:01 -0700

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