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Re: Need to construct the logical reverse of a 7448 - perhaps using a GAL

From	Gerhard Hoffmann <ghf@hoffmann-hochfrequenz.de>
Newsgroups	sci.electronics.design
Subject	Re: Need to construct the logical reverse of a 7448 - perhaps using a GAL
Date	2018-10-11 13:35 +0200
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Am 11.10.2018 um 03:37 schrieb gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com:
> On Wednesday, October 10, 2018 at 8:08:27 PM UTC-4, Gerhard Hoffmann wrote:

>>
>>    <  https://www.digikey.de/products/de?keywords=%20ATF16V8B-15PU  >
>>
>> €0.75 qty 1 at digikey.
>>
>> cheers, Gerhard
> 
> I'd say this is clearly a good part for this task.  It's small, cheap, easy to design.  I don't know how you might program it though.  I seem to recall reading in one group or another that it is hard to find programmers for smaller PLDs, but I bet you can find them on eBay or Aliexpress.

I still have a Hilo All-11 programmer and a virtual Win XP machine that
can operate it. To my surprise, a Hama USB to RS232 converter worked 
perfectly.

I have used PALs and GALs a lot, until the Xilinx XC2018 & friends appeared.

(See topmost photo there: )


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http://www.hoffmann-hochfrequenz.de/project_gallery/project_gallery.html  >

regards, Gerhard

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Need to construct the logical reverse of a 7448 - perhaps using a GAL John Robertson <spam@flippers.com> - 2018-10-08 17:20 -0700
  Re: Need to construct the logical reverse of a 7448 - perhaps using a GAL Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> - 2018-10-08 18:57 -0700
    Re: Need to construct the logical reverse of a 7448 - perhaps using a GAL John Robertson <spam@flippers.com> - 2018-10-08 19:08 -0700
    Re: Need to construct the logical reverse of a 7448 - perhaps using a GAL John Robertson <spam@flippers.com> - 2018-10-08 19:13 -0700
      Re: Need to construct the logical reverse of a 7448 - perhaps using a GAL John Robertson <spam@flippers.com> - 2018-10-08 19:27 -0700
        Re: Need to construct the logical reverse of a 7448 - perhaps using a GAL Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> - 2018-10-08 21:06 -0700
          Re: Need to construct the logical reverse of a 7448 - perhaps using a GAL Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> - 2018-10-08 21:36 -0700
    Re: Need to construct the logical reverse of a 7448 - perhaps using a GAL gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com - 2018-10-08 20:27 -0700
      Re: Need to construct the logical reverse of a 7448 - perhaps using a GAL John Robertson <spam@flippers.com> - 2018-10-08 21:19 -0700
        Re: Need to construct the logical reverse of a 7448 - perhaps using a GAL Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> - 2018-10-08 21:40 -0700
          Re: Need to construct the logical reverse of a 7448 - perhaps using a GAL John Robertson <spam@flippers.com> - 2018-10-09 00:20 -0700
            Re: Need to construct the logical reverse of a 7448 - perhaps using a GAL gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com - 2018-10-10 15:43 -0700
              Re: Need to construct the logical reverse of a 7448 - perhaps using a GAL John Robertson <spam@flippers.com> - 2018-10-10 18:46 -0700
        Re: Need to construct the logical reverse of a 7448 - perhaps using a GAL gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com - 2018-10-08 22:11 -0700
          Re: Need to construct the logical reverse of a 7448 - perhaps using a GAL John Robertson <spam@flippers.com> - 2018-10-09 00:27 -0700
    Re: Need to construct the logical reverse of a 7448 - perhaps using a GAL Rob <nomail@example.com> - 2018-10-09 17:08 +0000
  Re: Need to construct the logical reverse of a 7448 - perhaps using a GAL "tom" <tmiller11147@verizon.net> - 2018-10-09 00:15 -0400
    Re: Need to construct the logical reverse of a 7448 - perhaps using a GAL John Robertson <spam@flippers.com> - 2018-10-09 00:26 -0700
      Re: Need to construct the logical reverse of a 7448 - perhaps using a GAL Gerhard Hoffmann <ghf@hoffmann-hochfrequenz.de> - 2018-10-09 14:23 +0200
        Re: Need to construct the logical reverse of a 7448 - perhaps using a GAL jrwalliker@gmail.com - 2018-10-09 06:43 -0700
          Re: Need to construct the logical reverse of a 7448 - perhaps using a GAL John Robertson <spam@flippers.com> - 2018-10-09 08:41 -0700
            Re: Need to construct the logical reverse of a 7448 - perhaps using a GAL dplatt@coop.radagast.org (Dave Platt) - 2018-10-09 10:50 -0700
      Re: Need to construct the logical reverse of a 7448 - perhaps using a GAL Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> - 2018-10-09 09:15 -0700
        Re: Need to construct the logical reverse of a 7448 - perhaps using a GAL John Robertson <spam@flippers.com> - 2018-10-09 10:01 -0700
          Re: Need to construct the logical reverse of a 7448 - perhaps using a GAL Tauno Voipio <tauno.voipio@notused.fi.invalid> - 2018-10-09 21:01 +0300
            Re: Need to construct the logical reverse of a 7448 - perhaps using a GAL John Robertson <spam@flippers.com> - 2018-10-09 11:13 -0700
              Re: Need to construct the logical reverse of a 7448 - perhaps using a GAL bitrex <user@example.net> - 2018-10-09 18:35 -0400
                Re: Need to construct the logical reverse of a 7448 - perhaps using a GAL TTman <kraken.sankey@gmail.com> - 2018-10-09 23:43 +0100
                Re: Need to construct the logical reverse of a 7448 - perhaps using a GAL bitrex <user@example.net> - 2018-10-09 19:49 -0400
                Re: Need to construct the logical reverse of a 7448 - perhaps using a GAL bitrex <user@example.net> - 2018-10-09 19:50 -0400
          Re: Need to construct the logical reverse of a 7448 - perhaps using a GAL Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> - 2018-10-09 17:25 -0700
            Re: Need to construct the logical reverse of a 7448 - perhaps using a GAL John Robertson <spam@flippers.com> - 2018-10-09 19:15 -0700
          Re: Need to construct the logical reverse of a 7448 - perhaps using a GAL gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com - 2018-10-10 16:46 -0700
            Re: Need to construct the logical reverse of a 7448 - perhaps using a GAL Gerhard Hoffmann <ghf@hoffmann-hochfrequenz.de> - 2018-10-11 02:08 +0200
              Re: Need to construct the logical reverse of a 7448 - perhaps using a GAL gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com - 2018-10-10 18:37 -0700
                Re: Need to construct the logical reverse of a 7448 - perhaps using a GAL Gerhard Hoffmann <ghf@hoffmann-hochfrequenz.de> - 2018-10-11 13:35 +0200
      Re: Need to construct the logical reverse of a 7448 - perhaps using a GAL gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com - 2018-10-10 15:45 -0700
        Re: Need to construct the logical reverse of a 7448 - perhaps using a GAL John Robertson <spam@flippers.com> - 2018-10-10 18:50 -0700
          Re: Need to construct the logical reverse of a 7448 - perhaps using a GAL Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2018-10-11 05:39 +0000
  Re: Need to construct the logical reverse of a 7448 - perhaps using a GAL bitrex <user@example.net> - 2018-10-09 02:18 -0400
  Re: Need to construct the logical reverse of a 7448 - perhaps using a GAL TTman <kraken.sankey@gmail.com> - 2018-10-09 17:51 +0100
    Re: Need to construct the logical reverse of a 7448 - perhaps using a GAL bitrex <user@example.net> - 2018-10-09 17:38 -0400
  Re: Need to construct the logical reverse of a 7448 - perhaps using a GAL John Larkin <jjlarkin@highland_snip_technology.com> - 2018-10-09 17:52 -0700
    Re: Need to construct the logical reverse of a 7448 - perhaps using a GAL John Robertson <spam@flippers.com> - 2018-10-09 19:16 -0700
    Re: Need to construct the logical reverse of a 7448 - perhaps using a GAL bitrex <user@example.net> - 2018-10-09 22:48 -0400

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