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| From | Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | sci.electronics.design |
| Subject | Re: Ignition circuit issue. |
| Date | 2017-03-28 12:03 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <ejtr26Fgr15U1@mid.individual.net> (permalink) |
| References | <ejoupmFhi4bU3@mid.individual.net> <bl7jdc1mq2ic6ra1qld26lrok83erb4qh0@4ax.com> |
On 28/03/2017 10:25 AM, Jim Thompson wrote: > On Sun, 26 Mar 2017 15:36:06 +1100, Sylvia Else > <sylvia@not.at.this.address> wrote: > >> I'm using this circuit to provide 250V pulses to an ignition coil. >> >> https://www.dropbox.com/s/1w33uss3eedem05/ignition2.pdf?dl=0 >> >> The IC is a Linear Technology LT1243. >> >> 12V is provided on G$1 to the left. G$2 accepts a trigger pulse, >> and G$3 is ground. >> >> LTSpice says that this works, and indeed the real implementation >> does. Mostly. >> >> The difference is that after the circuit has been triggered once, >> it won't charge the capacitor again (above about 25 volts) for a >> varying period that can be up to half a minute. It's as if the >> wrong level is being used internally to compare with the feedback >> pin. In that regard, I'll mention that Q3 is used to pull FB up so >> that the circuit stops driving the FET, since otherwise the SCR >> never turns off. I've checked, and the problem is not that Q3 >> remains on, nor is it that the SCR fails to turn off. In any case, >> the 1.5uF capacitor C1 does get charged somewhat, as I mentioned >> above. >> >> When the issue resolves, it does so rapidly, within a fraction of a >> second. >> >> Connecting an oscilloscope probe to the RT/CT pin of the IC >> restores function, but only if the scope is set to DC coupling - >> not AC coupling - and functioning continues only as long as the >> probe remains connected - until the aforesaid varying period has >> elapsed. Touching the pin with a finger has a similar effect. >> >> That is, connect probe; works. Disconnect; stops working. >> Reconnect; works, etc. until eventually it starts working >> continuously. >> >> This cannot be capacitive loading - there's already a significant >> capacitance between RT/CT and ground. >> >> The fact that the coupling has to be DC made me think that some >> small current was flowing to ground through the scope, so I bridged >> C4 with a 100K resistor. It didn't make any difference. >> >> I tried changing the IC (a pain, given that it's surface mounted), >> but again it made no difference. >> >> Any other ideas about what might be happening here. >> >> Sylvia. > > Using a PIC when you should have gone analog >:-} Nah! Used a boost converter chip when I should have used a PIC. A 28 pin PIC32MX seems a bit over the top for this, but what the hell? It's not even more expensive. > > <http://www.analog-innovations.com/SED/CD-Ignition-Basic.pdf> > > <http://www.analog-innovations.com/SED/CDI_Inductor.jpg> ...Jim > Thompson > Don't quite see how that works - does it rely on the reverse breakdown of D3? Sylvia.
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Ignition circuit issue. Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-03-26 15:36 +1100
Re: Ignition circuit issue. John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-03-25 22:33 -0700
Re: Ignition circuit issue. Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-03-26 17:33 +1100
Re: Ignition circuit issue. Larry Sheldon <lfsheldon@gmail.com> - 2017-03-27 00:54 -0500
Re: Ignition circuit issue. Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-03-27 19:34 +1100
Re: Ignition circuit issue. dagmargoodboat@yahoo.com - 2017-03-27 07:16 -0700
Re: Ignition circuit issue. makolber@yahoo.com - 2017-03-27 09:18 -0700
Re: Ignition circuit issue. Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-03-28 11:13 +1100
Re: Ignition circuit issue. Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2017-03-27 16:25 -0700
Re: Ignition circuit issue. Lasse Langwadt Christensen <langwadt@fonz.dk> - 2017-03-27 16:31 -0700
Re: Ignition circuit issue. Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2017-03-27 16:36 -0700
Re: Ignition circuit issue. Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-03-28 15:19 +1100
Re: Ignition circuit issue. Neon John <no@never.com> - 2017-03-31 14:41 -0400
Re: Ignition circuit issue. Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2017-03-31 11:55 -0700
Re: Ignition circuit issue. Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-03-28 12:03 +1100
Re: Ignition circuit issue. piglet <erichpwagner@hotmail.com> - 2017-03-28 08:39 +0100
Re: Ignition circuit issue. Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-03-28 20:54 +1100
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