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Re: OT: A description of some of the "designers" here...

Subject Re: OT: A description of some of the "designers" here...
Newsgroups sci.electronics.design
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From bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net>
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Date 2017-05-07 08:41 -0400

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On 05/07/2017 06:36 AM, Cursitor Doom wrote:
> On Sun, 07 May 2017 01:33:20 -0400, bitrex wrote:
>
>> Most New England liberals are ultra-dogmatic, inflexible, and kind of a
>> pain-in-the-ass to be around even compared to lil ol' "communist" me if
>> you can believe it.
>
> You read Animal Farm yet? Oh, I forgot. You Trendies think reading is so
> old-fashioned these days. As in all other endeavours in life, you'd
> rather someone else did it for you. Well here you go:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gl4REOWdJSE
>
> No excuses now.
>

Ya and "1984", too. I remember "1984" better though.

Basically I don't think it's possible to learn anything really 
insightful or practical about society from Orwell's work. The fact that 
_both_ the Left and the Right sort of hold him as a darling and namedrop 
his stuff all the time (ohmahgawd with Trump it's just like 1984! The 
Clintons want a world just like Animal Farm!) tell me that his "profound 
insights" into "human nature" are mostly just astrology wrapped up in a 
slick package. that aren't even very good just as standalone pieces of 
fiction, either.

The review at the time it was published by George Soule (quoting from 
the wiki) said it "puzzled and saddened me. It seemed on the whole dull. 
The allegory turned out to be a creaking machine for saying in a clumsy 
way things that have been said better directly" which is pretty much 
on-the-money. "Dude, everyone has heard these ideas framed more clearly 
by someone else before."

What you can learn a lot about from Orwell's work, and what I think the 
most important take-away is, is about the psychology of Orwell himself, 
and it ain't pretty.

The reality is Orwell was basically a himself a leftist dilettante 
originally, born into a wealthy family with no real problems in life 
other than the fact girls rejected him a lot when he fell in love with 
them and asked them to marry him 20 seconds after meeting them (he also 
hated women a lot.) He had the money to do pretty much what he wanted, 
though, and spent a lot of time dilettante-ing it up with the other 
leftists at trendy bars in Paris and lounging around his mom's house.

Anyway one day he decided that the best way to get these high-society 
commie chicks to like him was to prove what a badass he was, so he went 
to go try to be the Hero of the Proletariat and singlehandedly turn the 
tide of the Spanish Civil War. Henry Miller tried to tell him that he 
was a dumbass but he didn't listen and nearly got his face shot off for 
the trouble by far-leftists looking to build their own anti-Reich, who 
thought he was too moderate.

This made him really mad and feel like everything he ever thought about 
the left was a fraud. Meanwhile everyone else is thinking "So what did 
you think was gonna happen when you went sticking your dilettante-ass in 
fights where it didn't belong, exactly?"

But for the most part he never actually lived under the systems of 
oppression he so vehemently despised and didn't really know much about 
them at the end of the day. If he had he wouldn't have written books 
like the ones he did.

"Here lies George. He never scored."

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OT:  A description of some of the "designers" here... Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2017-05-06 16:33 -0700
  Re: OT:  A description of some of the "designers" here... bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-05-06 20:36 -0700
    Re: A description of some of the "designers" here... "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-07 07:51 +0100
      Re: A description of some of the "designers" here... Cursitor Doom <curd@notformail.com> - 2017-05-07 10:38 +0000
        Re: A description of some of the "designers" here... bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-05-07 07:46 -0700
          Re: A description of some of the "designers" here... bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> - 2017-05-07 11:06 -0400
            Re: A description of some of the "designers" here... John Robertson <spam@flippers.com> - 2017-05-08 11:19 -0700
            Re: A description of some of the "designers" here... bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-05-08 21:09 -0700
        Re: A description of some of the "designers" here... "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-07 20:58 +0100
          Re: A description of some of the "designers" here... Lasse Langwadt Christensen <langwadt@fonz.dk> - 2017-05-07 13:21 -0700
            Re: A description of some of the "designers" here... John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-05-07 13:35 -0700
            Re: A description of some of the "designers" here... bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> - 2017-05-07 17:11 -0400
              Re: A description of some of the "designers" here... Lasse Langwadt Christensen <langwadt@fonz.dk> - 2017-05-07 14:27 -0700
                Re: A description of some of the "designers" here... John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-05-07 15:08 -0700
                Re: A description of some of the "designers" here... Lasse Langwadt Christensen <langwadt@fonz.dk> - 2017-05-07 15:28 -0700
                Re: A description of some of the "designers" here... John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-05-07 15:36 -0700
                Re: A description of some of the "designers" here... krw@notreal.com - 2017-05-07 20:58 -0400
                Re: A description of some of the "designers" here... bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> - 2017-05-08 00:51 -0400
                Re: A description of some of the "designers" here... Cursitor Doom <curd@notformail.com> - 2017-05-09 18:20 +0000
                Re: A description of some of the "designers" here... Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2017-05-09 12:06 -0700
                Re: A description of some of the "designers" here... krw@notreal.com - 2017-05-09 20:02 -0400
                Re: A description of some of the "designers" here... "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-11 19:02 +0100
                Re: A description of some of the "designers" here... bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-05-11 18:57 -0700
              Re: A description of some of the "designers" here... krw@notreal.com - 2017-05-07 20:56 -0400
            Re: A description of some of the "designers" here... bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-05-07 19:50 -0700
          Re: A description of some of the "designers" here... bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> - 2017-05-07 16:56 -0400
            Re: A description of some of the "designers" here... John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-05-07 14:57 -0700
              Re: A description of some of the "designers" here... bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> - 2017-05-08 00:57 -0400
          Re: A description of some of the "designers" here... bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-05-07 19:42 -0700
      Re: A description of some of the "designers" here... bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> - 2017-05-07 10:04 -0400
        Re: A description of some of the "designers" here... John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-05-07 09:56 -0700
      Re: A description of some of the "designers" here... bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-05-07 07:41 -0700
      Re: A description of some of the "designers" here... Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2017-05-07 08:38 -0700
        Re: A description of some of the "designers" here... bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-05-07 09:03 -0700
          Re: A description of some of the "designers" here... bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> - 2017-05-07 12:25 -0400
            Re: A description of some of the "designers" here... bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> - 2017-05-07 12:32 -0400
            Re: A description of some of the "designers" here... Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2017-05-07 09:39 -0700
              Re: A description of some of the "designers" here... bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> - 2017-05-07 13:56 -0400
        Re: A description of some of the "designers" here... Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2017-05-07 18:59 +0100
      Re: A description of some of the "designers" here... John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-05-07 09:53 -0700
        Re: A description of some of the "designers" here... bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> - 2017-05-07 14:05 -0400
          Re: A description of some of the "designers" here... John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-05-07 11:26 -0700
            Re: A description of some of the "designers" here... bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> - 2017-05-07 14:42 -0400
              Re: A description of some of the "designers" here... bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> - 2017-05-07 14:46 -0400
                Re: A description of some of the "designers" here... John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-05-07 13:31 -0700
                Re: A description of some of the "designers" here... bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> - 2017-05-07 17:25 -0400
                Re: A description of some of the "designers" here... John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-05-07 15:16 -0700
                Re: A description of some of the "designers" here... bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> - 2017-05-08 10:27 -0400
                Re: A description of some of the "designers" here... John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-05-08 08:06 -0700
                Re: A description of some of the "designers" here... krw@notreal.com - 2017-05-08 12:28 -0400
                Re: A description of some of the "designers" here... John Larkin <jjlarkin@highland_snip_technology.com> - 2017-05-08 10:05 -0700
                Re: A description of some of the "designers" here... krw@notreal.com - 2017-05-08 18:27 -0400
                Re: A description of some of the "designers" here... bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> - 2017-05-08 13:12 -0400
                Re: A description of some of the "designers" here... John Larkin <jjlarkin@highland_snip_technology.com> - 2017-05-08 13:02 -0700
                Re: A description of some of the "designers" here... dplatt@coop.radagast.org (Dave Platt) - 2017-05-08 14:27 -0700
                Re: A description of some of the "designers" here... John Larkin <jjlarkin@highland_snip_technology.com> - 2017-05-08 15:22 -0700
                Re: A description of some of the "designers" here... krw@notreal.com - 2017-05-08 18:30 -0400
                Re: A description of some of the "designers" here... "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-08 20:45 +0100
                Re: A description of some of the "designers" here... John Larkin <jjlarkin@highland_snip_technology.com> - 2017-05-08 14:42 -0700
                Re: A description of some of the "designers" here... pcdhobbs@gmail.com - 2017-05-07 16:28 -0700
                Re: A description of some of the "designers" here... John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-05-07 16:35 -0700
                Re: A description of some of the "designers" here... bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> - 2017-05-08 10:24 -0400
                Re: A description of some of the "designers" here... John Larkin <jjlarkin@highland_snip_technology.com> - 2017-05-08 10:09 -0700
                Re: A description of some of the "designers" here... bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-05-08 21:16 -0700
                Re: A description of some of the "designers" here... bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-05-07 20:07 -0700
                Re: A description of some of the "designers" here... bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> - 2017-05-08 10:32 -0400
                Re: A description of some of the "designers" here... John Larkin <jjlarkin@highland_snip_technology.com> - 2017-05-08 10:16 -0700
                Re: A description of some of the "designers" here... bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> - 2017-05-08 13:54 -0400
                Re: A description of some of the "designers" here... Joseph Gwinn <joegwinn@comcast.net> - 2017-05-07 19:05 -0400
                Re: A description of some of the "designers" here... krw@notreal.com - 2017-05-07 21:07 -0400
                Re: A description of some of the "designers" here... krw@notreal.com - 2017-05-08 12:41 -0400
                Re: A description of some of the "designers" here... John Larkin <jjlarkin@highland_snip_technology.com> - 2017-05-08 10:19 -0700
                Re: A description of some of the "designers" here... krw@notreal.com - 2017-05-08 18:37 -0400
        Re: A description of some of the "designers" here... bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-05-07 19:58 -0700
  Re: OT: A description of some of the "designers" here... bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> - 2017-05-07 01:33 -0400
    Re: OT: A description of some of the "designers" here... Cursitor Doom <curd@notformail.com> - 2017-05-07 10:36 +0000
      Re: OT: A description of some of the "designers" here... bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> - 2017-05-07 08:41 -0400
        Re: OT: A description of some of the "designers" here... Cursitor Doom <curd@notformail.com> - 2017-05-07 12:56 +0000
          Re: OT: A description of some of the "designers" here... bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> - 2017-05-07 09:35 -0400
          Re: OT: A description of some of the "designers" here... bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> - 2017-05-07 09:42 -0400
            Re: OT: A description of some of the "designers" here... bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-05-07 08:24 -0700
          Re: OT: A description of some of the "designers" here... Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2017-05-07 08:36 -0700
            Re: OT: A description of some of the "designers" here... Cursitor Doom <curd@notformail.com> - 2017-05-07 16:33 +0000
              Re: OT: A description of some of the "designers" here... bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> - 2017-05-07 13:59 -0400
            Re: OT: A description of some of the "designers" here... krw@notreal.com - 2017-05-07 20:53 -0400
        Re: OT: A description of some of the "designers" here... bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-05-07 08:15 -0700
          Re: OT: A description of some of the "designers" here... bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> - 2017-05-07 12:08 -0400
      Re: OT: A description of some of the "designers" here... bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com - 2017-05-07 06:42 -0700
        Re: OT: A description of some of the "designers" here... bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> - 2017-05-07 09:47 -0400
      Re: OT: A description of some of the "designers" here... bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-05-07 07:53 -0700

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