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  SCSI. "Benderthe.evilrobot" <Benderthe.evilrobot@virginmedia.com> - 2016-11-01 19:55 +0000
    Re: SCSI. dplatt@coop.radagast.org (Dave Platt) - 2016-11-01 13:24 -0700
      Re: SCSI. "Benderthe.evilrobot" <Benderthe.evilrobot@virginmedia.com> - 2016-11-01 21:18 +0000
        Re: SCSI. dplatt@coop.radagast.org (Dave Platt) - 2016-11-01 15:20 -0700
          Re: SCSI. "Benderthe.evilrobot" <Benderthe.evilrobot@virginmedia.com> - 2016-11-02 20:32 +0000
            Re: SCSI. not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2016-11-03 21:50 +0000
    Re: SCSI. Mark Storkamp <mstorkamp@yahoo.com> - 2016-11-03 08:38 -0500
      Re: SCSI. "Benderthe.evilrobot" <Benderthe.evilrobot@virginmedia.com> - 2016-11-03 19:35 +0000

#6040 — SCSI.

Just won a few SCSI cards - even found drivers for some of them.

Is SCSI still used?

Thanks. 

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#6041

>Just won a few SCSI cards - even found drivers for some of them.
>
>Is SCSI still used?

Mostly just for older (legacy) equipment.  I've still got one CD-R
burner, an HP scanner, and some DAT drives which use SCSI.  All of
these are 5-10 years old.

Newer equipment has moved to other standards, almost all
serial-bus of one sort or another (SCSI's parallel-bus architecture
doesn't play well, or cheaply, at high speeds).  SATA, SAS, Fiber
Channel, USB, Ethernet etc. are much more common these days.

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#6042

"Dave Platt" <dplatt@coop.radagast.org> wrote in message 
news:v8aned-r4u.ln1@coop.radagast.org...
>>Just won a few SCSI cards - even found drivers for some of them.
>>
>>Is SCSI still used?
>
> Mostly just for older (legacy) equipment.  I've still got one CD-R
> burner, an HP scanner, and some DAT drives which use SCSI.  All of
> these are 5-10 years old.

Thanks - I had a HP scanner that I expected to continue using indefinitely, 
the card that came with it was 8 bit ISA. When I upgraded out the ISA 
motherboards, I couldn't get the install disc to recognise a generic SCSI 
card.

Over a decade ago; there were loads of SH SCSI HDDs around - but nothing big 
enough to bother with now. 

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#6043

In article <UD7Sz.242362$rH.212914@fx16.am4>,
Benderthe.evilrobot <Benderthe.evilrobot@virginmedia.com> wrote:

>> Mostly just for older (legacy) equipment.  I've still got one CD-R
>> burner, an HP scanner, and some DAT drives which use SCSI.  All of
>> these are 5-10 years old.
>
>Thanks - I had a HP scanner that I expected to continue using indefinitely, 
>the card that came with it was 8 bit ISA. When I upgraded out the ISA 
>motherboards, I couldn't get the install disc to recognise a generic SCSI 
>card.

Yeah.  Unfortunately, a lot of the DOS and Windows software for
scanners and similar special-use peripherals was coded up to talk
directly to a specific model of interface card, and would work with
none other.

If you were exceptionally lucky, the vendor would have provided a
higher-level API such as TWAIN, which could run on top of a more
generic hardware-driver interface (e.g. on top of the generic ASPI
interface to SCSI cards that provided such a driver).

If you're stuck... consider dual-booting a Linux distribution.  Linux
has support for all of the popular SCSI interface cards, and the Linux
scanner interface software ("SANE") has back-end drivers for most
popular scanners (SCSI and otherwise).  I'm using an old HP legal-size
flatbed scanner with an Adaptec PCI SCSI interface card... works fine.

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#6044

"Dave Platt" <dplatt@coop.radagast.org> wrote in message 
news:m2hned-6fu.ln1@coop.radagast.org...
> In article <UD7Sz.242362$rH.212914@fx16.am4>,
> Benderthe.evilrobot <Benderthe.evilrobot@virginmedia.com> wrote:
>
>>> Mostly just for older (legacy) equipment.  I've still got one CD-R
>>> burner, an HP scanner, and some DAT drives which use SCSI.  All of
>>> these are 5-10 years old.
>>
>>Thanks - I had a HP scanner that I expected to continue using 
>>indefinitely,
>>the card that came with it was 8 bit ISA. When I upgraded out the ISA
>>motherboards, I couldn't get the install disc to recognise a generic SCSI
>>card.
>
> Yeah.  Unfortunately, a lot of the DOS and Windows software for
> scanners and similar special-use peripherals was coded up to talk
> directly to a specific model of interface card, and would work with
> none other.
>
> If you were exceptionally lucky, the vendor would have provided a
> higher-level API such as TWAIN, which could run on top of a more
> generic hardware-driver interface (e.g. on top of the generic ASPI
> interface to SCSI cards that provided such a driver).
>
> If you're stuck... consider dual-booting a Linux distribution.  Linux
> has support for all of the popular SCSI interface cards,

I'm not stuck - I just won a bag of SCSI cards and wondered whether they're 
still any use for anything.

The HP scanner was replaced with a USB peripheral long ago. 

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#6047

Benderthe.evilrobot <Benderthe.evilrobot@virginmedia.com> wrote:
> 
> I'm not stuck - I just won a bag of SCSI cards and wondered whether they're 
> still any use for anything.

Ex-server used SCSI HDDs seem to go cheaply on Ebay because the usual
used HDD customer base can't interface with them. Could be handy if
you want to set up a networked storage box with RAID for redundancy, or
something like that.

If you haven't delt with it before, make sure to read up on standards,
rules for terminating, etc. Adapters are available cheaply from Chinese
ebay sellers.

Beyond HDDs, I don't think much has used SCSI in (relatively) recent
times.

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#6045

In article <9q6Sz.2507948$AB.1018850@fx41.am4>,
 "Benderthe.evilrobot" <Benderthe.evilrobot@virginmedia.com> wrote:

> Just won a few SCSI cards - even found drivers for some of them.
> 
> Is SCSI still used?
> 
> Thanks. 

I've got a Mitutoyo CMM here that's interfaced with SCSI. I'd bet the 
newer ones are USB. The market for your cards is in keeping older 
equipment such as this working for another decade or so.

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#6046

"Mark Storkamp" <mstorkamp@yahoo.com> wrote in message 
news:mstorkamp-71FC46.08383903112016@88-209-239-213.giganet.hu...
> In article <9q6Sz.2507948$AB.1018850@fx41.am4>,
> "Benderthe.evilrobot" <Benderthe.evilrobot@virginmedia.com> wrote:
>
>> Just won a few SCSI cards - even found drivers for some of them.
>>
>> Is SCSI still used?
>>
>> Thanks.
>
> I've got a Mitutoyo CMM here that's interfaced with SCSI. I'd bet the
> newer ones are USB. The market for your cards is in keeping older
> equipment such as this working for another decade or so.

The same salvage source yielded a HP helical scan tape drive and a box of 
tape cartridges - its currently the only SCSI peripheral in my possession.

The cartridges are 12Gb - not even better than a cheap flash drive.

No sign of drivers on the HP support page, but they could be included in XP. 
Its the sort of thing I have to be pretty bored to bother finding out.

If I put critical data on those tapes and the drive went tits up - it could 
be a long wait to find a replacement. 

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