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Ahmed Mohamed

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First post2015-09-25 18:41 -0400
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  Ahmed Mohamed Seymore4Head <Seymore4Head@Hotmail.invalid> - 2015-09-25 18:41 -0400
    Re: Ahmed Mohamed Cursitor Doom <curd@notformail.com> - 2015-09-25 23:53 +0000
      Re: Ahmed Mohamed "Tom Del Rosso" <fizzbintuesday@that-google-mail-domain.com> - 2015-10-14 16:08 -0400
        Re: Ahmed Mohamed BuckyBalls <"The Pres"@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-16 14:25 +0200
    Re: Ahmed Mohamed Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-09-25 23:15 -0400
      Re: Ahmed Mohamed "Ian Field" <gangprobing.alien@ntlworld.com> - 2015-09-27 18:23 +0100
    Re: Ahmed Mohamed Oltimer <nup@nup.com> - 2015-09-26 19:08 +0800
      Re: Ahmed Mohamed Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-09-27 13:33 -0400
        Re: Ahmed Mohamed Oltimer <nup@nup.com> - 2015-09-28 21:00 +0800
        Re: Ahmed Mohamed mjb@signal11.invalid (Mike) - 2015-09-28 15:14 +0100
          Re: Ahmed Mohamed keithr0 <user@account.invalid> - 2015-09-29 17:43 +1000
            Re: Ahmed Mohamed Seymore4Head <Seymore4Head@Hotmail.invalid> - 2015-09-29 12:32 -0400
    Re: Ahmed Mohamed N_Cook <diverse@tcp.co.uk> - 2015-09-26 16:23 +0100
      Re: Ahmed Mohamed Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2015-09-26 09:07 -0700
        Re: Ahmed Mohamed amdx <nojunk@knology.net> - 2015-09-27 06:33 -0500
        Re: Ahmed Mohamed Oltimer <nup@nup.com> - 2015-09-27 22:18 +0800
    Re: Ahmed Mohamed "Ian Field" <gangprobing.alien@ntlworld.com> - 2015-10-25 19:34 +0000
      Re: Ahmed Mohamed Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-10-30 17:14 -0400
    Re: Ahmed Mohamed Seymore4Head <Seymore4Head@Hotmail.invalid> - 2015-11-01 22:05 -0500
      Re: Ahmed Mohamed news13 <newsthirteenspam-spam@woa.com.au> - 2015-11-02 11:52 +0000

#5767 — Ahmed Mohamed

FromSeymore4Head <Seymore4Head@Hotmail.invalid>
Date2015-09-25 18:41 -0400
SubjectAhmed Mohamed
Message-ID<fpib0b1ruh4p5k9i424lqbq7oq1ksssrj4@4ax.com>
I assume everyone has heard of this kid and his clock.
http://truthuncensored.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/ahmed-mohamed-clock.jpg

The picture of the clock shows a 9V battery hookup but no battery.
That means the kid either had to plug the clock in or it does have
batteries that are not shown.

If we assume that there are no batteries, can this clock store it's
alarm time?  I say no, but I don't know.

If not, that means that the kid had to plug the clock in during class
and also program it to alarm.  The clock can not accidentally go off
without battery back up.  Right?

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#5768

FromCursitor Doom <curd@notformail.com>
Date2015-09-25 23:53 +0000
Message-ID<mu4mq6$ohi$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#5767
On Fri, 25 Sep 2015 18:41:11 -0400, Seymore4Head wrote:

[...]

The whole thing is bullshit made up for political purposes:

http://www.infowars.com/video-of-white-guy-with-briefcase-clock-
contradicts-claim-ahmed-mohamed-was-targeted-because-he-was-muslim/

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#5787

From"Tom Del Rosso" <fizzbintuesday@that-google-mail-domain.com>
Date2015-10-14 16:08 -0400
Message-ID<mvmcja$m2i$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#5768
Cursitor Doom wrote:
> On Fri, 25 Sep 2015 18:41:11 -0400, Seymore4Head wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> The whole thing is bullshit made up for political purposes:
>
> http://www.infowars.com/video-of-white-guy-with-briefcase-clock-
> contradicts-claim-ahmed-mohamed-was-targeted-because-he-was-muslim/

I never suspected he was targeted because he is Muslim.  Considering the 
things that get kids suspended from U.S. schools nowadays, like drawing 
a picture of a gun, I never doubted that he was suspended because 
teachers and policemen are all idiots.  When I was his age I made a 
bicycle odometer which certainly would have gotten me the same treatment 
if it was today.

-- 

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#5788

FromBuckyBalls <"The Pres"@yahoo.com>
Date2015-10-16 14:25 +0200
Message-ID<d8c8lcFja3kU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#5787
On 14/10/2015 10:08 PM, Tom Del Rosso wrote:
> Cursitor Doom wrote:
>> On Fri, 25 Sep 2015 18:41:11 -0400, Seymore4Head wrote:
>>
>> [...]
>>
>> The whole thing is bullshit made up for political purposes:
>>
>> http://www.infowars.com/video-of-white-guy-with-briefcase-clock-
>> contradicts-claim-ahmed-mohamed-was-targeted-because-he-was-muslim/
>
> I never suspected he was targeted because he is Muslim.  Considering the
> things that get kids suspended from U.S. schools nowadays, like drawing
> a picture of a gun, I never doubted that he was suspended because
> teachers and policemen are all idiots.  When I was his age I made a
> bicycle odometer which certainly would have gotten me the same treatment
> if it was today.

America is going downhill fast. 9-11 let the idiots loose to arrest 
anyone for anything in the name of 'homeland security'. But there is 
hope, thanks to brave people like Edward Snowden and Julian Assange who 
tell the people the real truth, unlike the lying fucking governments who 
cannot be trusted.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Snowden
https://wikileaks.org/index.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julian_Assange


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#5769

FromMichael Black <et472@ncf.ca>
Date2015-09-25 23:15 -0400
Message-ID<alpine.LNX.2.02.1509252309590.22814@darkstar.example.org>
In reply to#5767
On Fri, 25 Sep 2015, Seymore4Head wrote:

> I assume everyone has heard of this kid and his clock.
> http://truthuncensored.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/ahmed-mohamed-clock.jpg
>
> The picture of the clock shows a 9V battery hookup but no battery.
> That means the kid either had to plug the clock in or it does have
> batteries that are not shown.
>
First, all he did was take the innards out of a commercial clock and 
transplant them into his own box.  People actually built digital clocks in 
the late sixties and early seventies,  wiring up all that TTL  and 
readouts.  Then National and some other companies came out with LSI that 
put most of the circuitry in one large IC, and that caused more building, 
though it was simpler.  After a while, endless companies were selling 
"clock kits" with the ICs and readouts and other few needed parts.  Then 
by the late seventies, nobody did it that way, National (at least) had 
clock modules that one just had to wire to a transformer and switches, and 
put in a box.  Godbout probably sold a lot of those. Then virtually nobody 
built clocks, it was easier if you needed the function to either get one 
of those modules, or buy a clock radio at a garage sale and use the clock 
from that.

Gee, in the early seventies one could buy digital watch kits, that was 
just following instructions, but more work needed than this kid and his 
clock.

The 9v battery was surely there to keep the time when the power went off. 
The clock doesn't run from that battery.  (And thinking about it now, if 
the photo came from the cops, maybe they detached the battery "to be 
safe").

> If we assume that there are no batteries, can this clock store it's
> alarm time?  I say no, but I don't know.
>
If the clock has no power whatever, then of course it can't keep time.

> If not, that means that the kid had to plug the clock in during class
> and also program it to alarm.  The clock can not accidentally go off
> without battery back up.  Right?
>
>
If it's plugged into the wall, it doesn't need the battery.

   Michael

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#5775

From"Ian Field" <gangprobing.alien@ntlworld.com>
Date2015-09-27 18:23 +0100
Message-ID<RDVNx.12209$uR7.10501@fx18.am4>
In reply to#5769
"Michael Black" <et472@ncf.ca> wrote in message 
news:alpine.LNX.2.02.1509252309590.22814@darkstar.example.org...
> On Fri, 25 Sep 2015, Seymore4Head wrote:
>
>> I assume everyone has heard of this kid and his clock.
>> http://truthuncensored.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/ahmed-mohamed-clock.jpg
>>
>> The picture of the clock shows a 9V battery hookup but no battery.
>> That means the kid either had to plug the clock in or it does have
>> batteries that are not shown.
>>
> First, all he did was take the innards out of a commercial clock and 
> transplant them into his own box.  People actually built digital clocks in 
> the late sixties and early seventies,  wiring up all that TTL

Way back then I started one from a design in the back of a Henry's radio 
catalogue.

The LSI chips turned up before I finished it, a ready made clock was 
suddenly such a reasonable price that building one with dozens of SSI TTL 
seemed hardly worth it.

The board might even still be in a tea chest somewhere at the back of the 
garage. 

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#5770

FromOltimer <nup@nup.com>
Date2015-09-26 19:08 +0800
Message-ID<_MWdnXFZxoAt4ZvLnZ2dnUU7-N2dnZ2d@westnet.com.au>
In reply to#5767
On 26-Sep-15 6:41 AM, Seymore4Head wrote:
> I assume everyone has heard of this kid and his clock.
> http://truthuncensored.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/ahmed-mohamed-clock.jpg
>
> The picture of the clock shows a 9V battery hookup but no battery.
> That means the kid either had to plug the clock in or it does have
> batteries that are not shown.
>
> If we assume that there are no batteries, can this clock store it's
> alarm time?  I say no, but I don't know.
>
> If not, that means that the kid had to plug the clock in during class
> and also program it to alarm.  The clock can not accidentally go off
> without battery back up.  Right?
>


I reckon his old man set him up knowing full well what would happen.

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#5776

FromMichael Black <et472@ncf.ca>
Date2015-09-27 13:33 -0400
Message-ID<alpine.LNX.2.02.1509271324290.26622@darkstar.example.org>
In reply to#5770
On Sat, 26 Sep 2015, Oltimer wrote:

> On 26-Sep-15 6:41 AM, Seymore4Head wrote:
>> I assume everyone has heard of this kid and his clock.
>> http://truthuncensored.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/ahmed-mohamed-clock.jpg
>> 
>> The picture of the clock shows a 9V battery hookup but no battery.
>> That means the kid either had to plug the clock in or it does have
>> batteries that are not shown.
>> 
>> If we assume that there are no batteries, can this clock store it's
>> alarm time?  I say no, but I don't know.
>> 
>> If not, that means that the kid had to plug the clock in during class
>> and also program it to alarm.  The clock can not accidentally go off
>> without battery back up.  Right?
>> 
>
>
> I reckon his old man set him up knowing full well what would happen.
>
>
WHy cant' the kid just be a poser?

He follows the Make culture, doing anything, even pasting together 
circuitry sold to people so they don't have to solder, is "Making".
In the old days, the technology was cool, you weren't, you got picked on 
or beat up at high school.  But "Make" says it's all "cool", and nothing 
deserves criticism.

If you broaden something enough, anyone can participate, look at how the 
internet has gone.  It's like teaching amateur radio in elementary school, 
everyone gets a license, but few will actually pursue it to any extent 
beyond that classroom.

They had a soapbox derby here recently, I looked closer and saw that 
nobody was making the cars, there were some standard cars which the kids 
got to race.

In that context, some kid who opened up a commercial clock and 
transplanted it into another box is of course a "Maker", and wants the 
prestige the "Maker Movement" expects.  He certainly didn't expect to be 
told "that's not building a clock" let alone "it's a bomb".

The funny thing is, "Make" has been pushing this, and in their regular 
advertising email, they offered a selection of clocks from their store, 
including one made to look like a bomb.  That's the leadership, not doing 
something for the sake of doing something, but for the sake of adulation 
from others.  And apparently making clocks that look like bombs is 
acceptable in the "Maker World".

The dumb thing about this discussion is that while he's a rank beginner, 
the fact that he is young isn't some indicator of a conspiracy.

I was building things, or trying to, when I was 11.  I got my ham license 
when I was 12, and was playing with high voltage soon after (it was 1972, 
the tail end of the tube era).  I knew way more about electronics than 
anyone in high school.  Lots of people back then had similar experience, 
well lots if you look at people interested in hobby electronics or amateur 
radio or even professionals in electronics.  Few if you compare to the 
general population, there were a few interested in high school, we all 
knew who the other ones were.

   Michael

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#5777

FromOltimer <nup@nup.com>
Date2015-09-28 21:00 +0800
Message-ID<N8-dnat-SplipJTLnZ2dnUU7-Ynz-Oru@westnet.com.au>
In reply to#5776
On 28-Sep-15 1:33 AM, Michael Black wrote:
> On Sat, 26 Sep 2015, Oltimer wrote:
>
>> On 26-Sep-15 6:41 AM, Seymore4Head wrote:
>>> I assume everyone has heard of this kid and his clock.
>>> http://truthuncensored.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/ahmed-mohamed-clock.jpg
>>>
>>>
>>> The picture of the clock shows a 9V battery hookup but no battery.
>>> That means the kid either had to plug the clock in or it does have
>>> batteries that are not shown.
>>>
>>> If we assume that there are no batteries, can this clock store it's
>>> alarm time?  I say no, but I don't know.
>>>
>>> If not, that means that the kid had to plug the clock in during class
>>> and also program it to alarm.  The clock can not accidentally go off
>>> without battery back up.  Right?
>>>
>>
>>
>> I reckon his old man set him up knowing full well what would happen.
>>
>>
> WHy cant' the kid just be a poser?
>
> He follows the Make culture, doing anything, even pasting together
> circuitry sold to people so they don't have to solder, is "Making".
> In the old days, the technology was cool, you weren't, you got picked on
> or beat up at high school.  But "Make" says it's all "cool", and nothing
> deserves criticism.
>
> If you broaden something enough, anyone can participate, look at how the
> internet has gone.  It's like teaching amateur radio in elementary
> school, everyone gets a license, but few will actually pursue it to any
> extent beyond that classroom.
>
> They had a soapbox derby here recently, I looked closer and saw that
> nobody was making the cars, there were some standard cars which the kids
> got to race.
>
> In that context, some kid who opened up a commercial clock and
> transplanted it into another box is of course a "Maker", and wants the
> prestige the "Maker Movement" expects.  He certainly didn't expect to be
> told "that's not building a clock" let alone "it's a bomb".
>
> The funny thing is, "Make" has been pushing this, and in their regular
> advertising email, they offered a selection of clocks from their store,
> including one made to look like a bomb.  That's the leadership, not
> doing something for the sake of doing something, but for the sake of
> adulation from others.  And apparently making clocks that look like
> bombs is acceptable in the "Maker World".
>
> The dumb thing about this discussion is that while he's a rank beginner,
> the fact that he is young isn't some indicator of a conspiracy.
>
> I was building things, or trying to, when I was 11.  I got my ham
> license when I was 12, and was playing with high voltage soon after (it
> was 1972, the tail end of the tube era).  I knew way more about
> electronics than anyone in high school.  Lots of people back then had
> similar experience, well lots if you look at people interested in hobby
> electronics or amateur radio or even professionals in electronics.  Few
> if you compare to the general population, there were a few interested in
> high school, we all knew who the other ones were.
>
>    Michael
>


I don't doubt the kid likes to tinker & good luck to him.

What I don't believe is that his father (check out his history) was 
surprised about the response. I still reckon the father facilitated the 
response.

How good would it be to be a kid today with a real interest in 
engineering, science or electronics. Stuff is so cheap and available. 
Information is just a click away.


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#5778

Frommjb@signal11.invalid (Mike)
Date2015-09-28 15:14 +0100
Message-ID<mubi04$9td$1@posie.signal11.org.uk>
In reply to#5776
In article <alpine.LNX.2.02.1509271324290.26622@darkstar.example.org>,
Michael Black  <et472@ncf.ca> wrote:
>He follows the Make culture, doing anything, even pasting together 
>circuitry sold to people so they don't have to solder, is "Making".

The "components" are simultanouesly getting smaller (SMD) and
bigger -- canned modules are a "component" now.

>The funny thing is, "Make" has been pushing this, and in their regular 
>advertising email, they offered a selection of clocks from their store, 
>including one made to look like a bomb. 

There was an instructable (www.instructables.com) where someone
designed a clock -- rebuilt an existing mains powered clock -- into
a "dynamite stick bundle with wires and red LED" project. It looked
great, but my immediate worry was -- what happens when a cop
sees it? As usual, "oh that's just a theoretical worry, it wouldn't
happen, cops aren't that stupid" etc. responses ... 

Well, sometimes it does happen! Even an LED/magnet "throwie" chucked
somewhere up under a bridge can trigger an alert. Not through
stupidity, as such, just a bit of paranoia!
-- 
--------------------------------------+------------------------------------
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#5779

Fromkeithr0 <user@account.invalid>
Date2015-09-29 17:43 +1000
Message-ID<d6utolF4ps1U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#5778
On 29/09/2015 12:14 AM, Mike wrote:
> In article <alpine.LNX.2.02.1509271324290.26622@darkstar.example.org>,
> Michael Black  <et472@ncf.ca> wrote:
>> He follows the Make culture, doing anything, even pasting together
>> circuitry sold to people so they don't have to solder, is "Making".

Come on! This is the 21st century, whipping up an Arduino based 
datalogger is just as much "Making" as building a super regen receiver 
using tubes, carbon resistors and a solder gun were back in the day.

> The "components" are simultanouesly getting smaller (SMD) and
> bigger -- canned modules are a "component" now.
>
>> The funny thing is, "Make" has been pushing this, and in their regular
>> advertising email, they offered a selection of clocks from their store,
>> including one made to look like a bomb.
>
> There was an instructable (www.instructables.com) where someone
> designed a clock -- rebuilt an existing mains powered clock -- into
> a "dynamite stick bundle with wires and red LED" project. It looked
> great, but my immediate worry was -- what happens when a cop
> sees it? As usual, "oh that's just a theoretical worry, it wouldn't
> happen, cops aren't that stupid" etc. responses ...
>
> Well, sometimes it does happen! Even an LED/magnet "throwie" chucked
> somewhere up under a bridge can trigger an alert. Not through
> stupidity, as such, just a bit of paranoia!
>
You can make a bomb without a clock, but you can't make one without 
explosives. You'd think that the cops would have noticed that, but, then 
again, maybe not.

I hope those cops never come around to my house, they'd probably think 
that it was a terrorist bomb factory, what with all the circuit boards 
and wiring lying around.

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#5780

FromSeymore4Head <Seymore4Head@Hotmail.invalid>
Date2015-09-29 12:32 -0400
Message-ID<gmel0btfnf4b8kt02acgt7leqtki99mh2o@4ax.com>
In reply to#5779
On Tue, 29 Sep 2015 17:43:51 +1000, keithr0 <user@account.invalid>
wrote:

>On 29/09/2015 12:14 AM, Mike wrote:
>> In article <alpine.LNX.2.02.1509271324290.26622@darkstar.example.org>,
>> Michael Black  <et472@ncf.ca> wrote:
>>> He follows the Make culture, doing anything, even pasting together
>>> circuitry sold to people so they don't have to solder, is "Making".
>
>Come on! This is the 21st century, whipping up an Arduino based 
>datalogger is just as much "Making" as building a super regen receiver 
>using tubes, carbon resistors and a solder gun were back in the day.
>
>> The "components" are simultanouesly getting smaller (SMD) and
>> bigger -- canned modules are a "component" now.
>>
>>> The funny thing is, "Make" has been pushing this, and in their regular
>>> advertising email, they offered a selection of clocks from their store,
>>> including one made to look like a bomb.
>>
>> There was an instructable (www.instructables.com) where someone
>> designed a clock -- rebuilt an existing mains powered clock -- into
>> a "dynamite stick bundle with wires and red LED" project. It looked
>> great, but my immediate worry was -- what happens when a cop
>> sees it? As usual, "oh that's just a theoretical worry, it wouldn't
>> happen, cops aren't that stupid" etc. responses ...
>>
>> Well, sometimes it does happen! Even an LED/magnet "throwie" chucked
>> somewhere up under a bridge can trigger an alert. Not through
>> stupidity, as such, just a bit of paranoia!
>>
>You can make a bomb without a clock, but you can't make one without 
>explosives. You'd think that the cops would have noticed that, but, then 
>again, maybe not.
>
>I hope those cops never come around to my house, they'd probably think 
>that it was a terrorist bomb factory, what with all the circuit boards 
>and wiring lying around.

No one has ever said the kid had a bomb.  The first teacher he showed
it to said that it looked like a bomb and to put it away and not show
it to anyone else.  The kid took it to another teacher and plugged it
in the wall so it would alarm during class.  He was questioned by
teachers and by the police about whether he brought the clock in to
make it look like a pretend bomb, which is still a crime.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzUtR5TvuzQ

Here is the mayor saying that law enforcement and "numerous" teachers
are receiving death threats over the incident.  I have yet to see a
single report about death threats on the news.  It seems that death
threats from the "religion of peace" do not fit the MSM narrative.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=198&v=weTqNxXHLRk

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#5771

FromN_Cook <diverse@tcp.co.uk>
Date2015-09-26 16:23 +0100
Message-ID<mu6d6b$t25$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#5767
On 25/09/2015 23:41, Seymore4Head wrote:
> I assume everyone has heard of this kid and his clock.
> http://truthuncensored.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/ahmed-mohamed-clock.jpg
>
> The picture of the clock shows a 9V battery hookup but no battery.
> That means the kid either had to plug the clock in or it does have
> batteries that are not shown.
>
> If we assume that there are no batteries, can this clock store it's
> alarm time?  I say no, but I don't know.
>
> If not, that means that the kid had to plug the clock in during class
> and also program it to alarm.  The clock can not accidentally go off
> without battery back up.  Right?
>

Going by the chaffing of the mains cable, on closing the case, just as 
well he got nabbed. Fire+electrocution hazard, even if not explosive hazard.
  What happened in later life (still living?), for the kid that made a 
nuclear reactor in his parent's garden shed, using old radium clock 
dials etc?

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#5772

FromDon Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net>
Date2015-09-26 09:07 -0700
Message-ID<mu6fnr$5er$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#5771
In article <mu6d6b$t25$1@dont-email.me>, N_Cook <diverse@tcp.co.uk> 
wrote:

> On 25/09/2015 23:41, Seymore4Head wrote:
> > I assume everyone has heard of this kid and his clock.
> > http://truthuncensored.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/ahmed-mohamed-clock.jp
> > g
> >
> > The picture of the clock shows a 9V battery hookup but no battery.
> > That means the kid either had to plug the clock in or it does have
> > batteries that are not shown.
> >
> > If we assume that there are no batteries, can this clock store it's
> > alarm time?  I say no, but I don't know.
> >
> > If not, that means that the kid had to plug the clock in during class
> > and also program it to alarm.  The clock can not accidentally go off
> > without battery back up.  Right?
> >
> 
> Going by the chaffing of the mains cable, on closing the case, just as 
> well he got nabbed. Fire+electrocution hazard, even if not explosive hazard.

And tell me, - just how stupid does somebody have to be in order to not 
figure out "Duh - when the lid is closed, the device needs no power, as 
it's obviously not being used - Perhaps I ought to throw the cable 
inside before I shut the lid..."? (Yes, I'm taking a slap at *YOUR* 
stupidity - because that's exactly what it was: A stupid nitpick that 
wouldn't have been made by anyone with a bit of common sense - Or anyone 
not looking for an excuse to chew on the kid's tail for no justifiable 
reason - Kinda like the dumbfuck cops trying to defend their mishandling 
of the case by trotting out some moron to explain "Well, we were too 
stupid to actually think, so we ran the kid through the mill to try to 
justify our existence.")

The kid done good. The Powers That Be fucked up - In spades.
 
>   What happened in later life (still living?), for the kid that made a 
> nuclear reactor in his parent's garden shed, using old radium clock 
> dials etc?

Last I heard, he was in the navy.

-- 
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#5773

Fromamdx <nojunk@knology.net>
Date2015-09-27 06:33 -0500
Message-ID<mu8k34$211$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#5772
On 9/26/2015 11:07 AM, Don Bruder wrote:
> In article <mu6d6b$t25$1@dont-email.me>, N_Cook <diverse@tcp.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
>> On 25/09/2015 23:41, Seymore4Head wrote:
>>> I assume everyone has heard of this kid and his clock.
>>> http://truthuncensored.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/ahmed-mohamed-clock.jp

   The way this has been treated will not be good for the,
"if you see something, say something" protection from terrorists campaign.
   I guess from now on, if it's a white male, go ahead "say something"
but if it's a minority, do you want to open yourself up to the ridicule?
We're fucked, to much PC for our own good.


                                      Mikek

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#5774

FromOltimer <nup@nup.com>
Date2015-09-27 22:18 +0800
Message-ID<yOidnXkHU-0rZ5rLnZ2dnUU7-cWdnZ2d@westnet.com.au>
In reply to#5772
On 27-Sep-15 12:07 AM, Don Bruder wrote:
> In article <mu6d6b$t25$1@dont-email.me>, N_Cook <diverse@tcp.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
>> On 25/09/2015 23:41, Seymore4Head wrote:
>>> I assume everyone has heard of this kid and his clock.
>>> http://truthuncensored.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/ahmed-mohamed-clock.jp
>>> g
>>>
>>> The picture of the clock shows a 9V battery hookup but no battery.
>>> That means the kid either had to plug the clock in or it does have
>>> batteries that are not shown.
>>>
>>> If we assume that there are no batteries, can this clock store it's
>>> alarm time?  I say no, but I don't know.
>>>
>>> If not, that means that the kid had to plug the clock in during class
>>> and also program it to alarm.  The clock can not accidentally go off
>>> without battery back up.  Right?
>>>
>>
>> Going by the chaffing of the mains cable, on closing the case, just as
>> well he got nabbed. Fire+electrocution hazard, even if not explosive hazard.
>
> And tell me, - just how stupid does somebody have to be in order to not
> figure out "Duh - when the lid is closed, the device needs no power, as
> it's obviously not being used - Perhaps I ought to throw the cable
> inside before I shut the lid..."? (Yes, I'm taking a slap at *YOUR*
> stupidity - because that's exactly what it was: A stupid nitpick that
> wouldn't have been made by anyone with a bit of common sense - Or anyone
> not looking for an excuse to chew on the kid's tail for no justifiable
> reason - Kinda like the dumbfuck cops trying to defend their mishandling
> of the case by trotting out some moron to explain "Well, we were too
> stupid to actually think, so we ran the kid through the mill to try to
> justify our existence.")
>
> The kid done good. The Powers That Be fucked up - In spades.
>


Don, you fool. You have obviously not seen an aluminium frame tool case 
close on a power lead AC, DC or otherwise.

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#5804

From"Ian Field" <gangprobing.alien@ntlworld.com>
Date2015-10-25 19:34 +0000
Message-ID<f9aXx.118441$wC3.87025@fx41.am4>
In reply to#5767

"Seymore4Head" <Seymore4Head@Hotmail.invalid> wrote in message 
news:fpib0b1ruh4p5k9i424lqbq7oq1ksssrj4@4ax.com...
> I assume everyone has heard of this kid and his clock.
> http://truthuncensored.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/ahmed-mohamed-clock.jpg
>
> The picture of the clock shows a 9V battery hookup but no battery.
> That means the kid either had to plug the clock in or it does have
> batteries that are not shown.
>
> If we assume that there are no batteries, can this clock store it's
> alarm time?  I say no, but I don't know.
>
> If not, that means that the kid had to plug the clock in during class
> and also program it to alarm.  The clock can not accidentally go off
> without battery back up.  Right?

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=ahkmed+the+dead+terrorist&FORM=VIRE5#view=detail&mid=8B62D1281D2DE0B7E5008B62D1281D2DE0B7E500 

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#5808

FromMichael Black <et472@ncf.ca>
Date2015-10-30 17:14 -0400
Message-ID<alpine.LNX.2.02.1510301713470.3659@darkstar.example.org>
In reply to#5804
On Sun, 25 Oct 2015, Ian Field wrote:

>
>
> "Seymore4Head" <Seymore4Head@Hotmail.invalid> wrote in message 
> news:fpib0b1ruh4p5k9i424lqbq7oq1ksssrj4@4ax.com...
>> I assume everyone has heard of this kid and his clock.
>> http://truthuncensored.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/ahmed-mohamed-clock.jpg
>> 
>> The picture of the clock shows a 9V battery hookup but no battery.
>> That means the kid either had to plug the clock in or it does have
>> batteries that are not shown.
>> 
>> If we assume that there are no batteries, can this clock store it's
>> alarm time?  I say no, but I don't know.
>> 
>> If not, that means that the kid had to plug the clock in during class
>> and also program it to alarm.  The clock can not accidentally go off
>> without battery back up.  Right?
>
> https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=ahkmed+the+dead+terrorist&FORM=VIRE5#view=detail&mid=8B62D1281D2DE0B7E5008B62D1281D2DE0B7E500 
>
It's all now moot, the family is apparently moving overseas.

   Michael

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#5809

FromSeymore4Head <Seymore4Head@Hotmail.invalid>
Date2015-11-01 22:05 -0500
Message-ID<vekd3bpo3gef401vnrkof8kedmj6kq2k1p@4ax.com>
In reply to#5767
On Fri, 25 Sep 2015 18:41:11 -0400, Seymore4Head
<Seymore4Head@Hotmail.invalid> wrote:

>I assume everyone has heard of this kid and his clock.
>http://truthuncensored.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/ahmed-mohamed-clock.jpg
>
>The picture of the clock shows a 9V battery hookup but no battery.
>That means the kid either had to plug the clock in or it does have
>batteries that are not shown.
>
>If we assume that there are no batteries, can this clock store it's
>alarm time?  I say no, but I don't know.
>
>If not, that means that the kid had to plug the clock in during class
>and also program it to alarm.  The clock can not accidentally go off
>without battery back up.  Right?

Here is a little update on Ahmed
http://valleypatriot.com/see-something-say-something-unless/

This guy says that the "clock" was counting down.  If this is true, it
means that Ahmed would have to have done something in the way of
programming to get the clock to count down.

I would call something that counts down a timer and not a clock.

I am unaware of any alarm clock today that also works as a timer much
less a clock what was supposed to be from more than 10 years ago.

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#5811

Fromnews13 <newsthirteenspam-spam@woa.com.au>
Date2015-11-02 11:52 +0000
Message-ID<n17ipi$rke$4@dont-email.me>
In reply to#5809
On Sun, 01 Nov 2015 22:05:58 -0500, Seymore4Head wrote:


> This guy says that the "clock" was counting down.

With out details of the conversion, the guy is a wanker.
That is the claim that news sources for ijit make.
In a tech area, you need to give technical details for any cred.

> I would call something that counts down a timer and not a clock.

My alarm clock "counts down" to alarm time.

> 
> I am unaware of any alarm clock today that also works as a timer much
> less a clock what was supposed to be from more than 10 years ago.

Err, plenty of them around, e.g basic snooze button capacity.
I've just retired a 40 year old radio/alarm clock that could be set to 
turn on a cassette tape and record to it. 

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