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Re: ? Unsafe terminal escape sequences and ANSI codes from decryption

From kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey)
Newsgroups sci.crypt, alt.security.pgp, alt.bbs, comp.terminals, alt.computer.security
Subject Re: ? Unsafe terminal escape sequences and ANSI codes from decryption
Date 2023-03-07 02:22 +0000
Organization Former users of Netcom shell (1989-2000)
Message-ID <tu6752$sb8$1@panix2.panix.com> (permalink)
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Grant Taylor  <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> wrote:
>On 3/6/23 3:29 PM, Dennis Boone wrote:
>> Actually, one might be able to program an answerback sequence that e.g. 
>> contained a hostile command, then triggered the terminal to send 
>> said command.  Depending on how the particular model implements screen 
>> content send, it might be possible to inject malicious commands via 
>> that path too.
>
>Please walk me through this hypothetical scenario.
>
>My main holdup is that I thought configuring the answerback was purely 
>client side.  Is there some terminal (emulator) that can be caused to 
>alter it's answerback setting via control codes sent to it by the remote 
>system?

The HP space helmet terminals (HP2626A, HP2645, etc) would do that.  They
also would allow you to program a function key to send a sequence, then
send a code to make all following text black-on-black, and then send a 
code to press that function key.  Great fun in student labs with the
HP/3000.

There also was a thing on the CDC 721 terminal where you could send a 
sequence to copy the scrollback buffer into a second screen memory, 
so after the person cleared the terminal you could go back and see 
their session text including the login password by going through menus 
to display the buffer.  A friend of mine used this to great effect
at the registration office when he was a student.
--scott

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? Unsafe terminal escape sequences and ANSI codes from decryption "G.K." <g@k.invalid> - 2023-03-05 03:19 -0600
  Re: ? Unsafe terminal escape sequences and ANSI codes from decryption Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2023-03-05 09:59 -0700
  Re: ? Unsafe terminal escape sequences and ANSI codes from decryption legalize+jeeves@mail.xmission.com (Richard) - 2023-03-06 04:42 +0000
    Re: ? Unsafe terminal escape sequences and ANSI codes from decryption Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2023-03-06 06:25 +0000
    Re: ? Unsafe terminal escape sequences and ANSI codes from decryption "G.K." <g@k.invalid> - 2023-03-06 01:25 -0600
      Re: ? Unsafe terminal escape sequences and ANSI codes from decryption "G.K." <g@k.invalid> - 2023-03-06 01:31 -0600
      Re: ? Unsafe terminal escape sequences and ANSI codes from decryption Simon Tatham <anakin@pobox.com> - 2023-03-06 09:29 +0000
        [solved] Unsafe terminal escape sequences and ANSI codes from decryption "G.K." <g@k.invalid> - 2023-03-06 04:04 -0600
        Re: ? Unsafe terminal escape sequences and ANSI codes from decryption Phil Carmody <pc+usenet@asdf.org> - 2023-03-07 09:36 +0200
      Re: ? Unsafe terminal escape sequences and ANSI codes from decryption legalize+jeeves@mail.xmission.com (Richard) - 2023-03-06 18:36 +0000
    Re: ? Unsafe terminal escape sequences and ANSI codes from decryption drb@ihatespam.msu.edu (Dennis Boone) - 2023-03-06 22:29 +0000
      Re: ? Unsafe terminal escape sequences and ANSI codes from decryption Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2023-03-06 17:21 -0700
        Re: ? Unsafe terminal escape sequences and ANSI codes from decryption drb@ihatespam.msu.edu (Dennis Boone) - 2023-03-07 00:35 +0000
          Re: ? Unsafe terminal escape sequences and ANSI codes from decryption Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2023-03-06 18:19 -0700
            Re: ? Unsafe terminal escape sequences and ANSI codes from decryption drb@ihatespam.msu.edu (Dennis Boone) - 2023-03-07 01:41 +0000
              Re: ? Unsafe terminal escape sequences and ANSI codes from decryption Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2023-03-06 23:35 -0700
                Re: ? Unsafe terminal escape sequences and ANSI codes from decryption Jakob Bohm <jb-usenet@wisemo.com.invalid> - 2023-03-17 14:23 +0100
        Re: ? Unsafe terminal escape sequences and ANSI codes from decryption kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) - 2023-03-07 02:22 +0000
          Re: ? Unsafe terminal escape sequences and ANSI codes from decryption Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2023-03-06 23:46 -0700
            Re: ? Unsafe terminal escape sequences and ANSI codes from decryption kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) - 2023-03-08 20:56 +0000
      Re: ? Unsafe terminal escape sequences and ANSI codes from decryption legalize+jeeves@mail.xmission.com (Richard) - 2023-03-07 05:37 +0000

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