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Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon

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  Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon "Robert Clark" <rgregoryclark@gmSPAMBLOACKail.com> - 2016-04-03 12:52 -0400
    Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-03 17:07 +0000
      Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Doc O'Leary  <droleary@2015usenet1.subsume.com> - 2016-04-04 15:20 +0000
        Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-04 18:35 +0000
          Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-04 12:58 -0700
          Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Jack Ryan <mixmaster@remailer.cpunk.us> - 2016-04-05 03:50 -0400
            Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-05 18:20 +0000
              Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-05 16:14 -0700
                Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-04-05 18:47 -0500
                  Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-06 00:00 -0700
                  Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-04-07 06:10 -0400
                    Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-07 18:51 +0000
                      Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-04-08 14:23 -0500
                        Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-08 13:25 -0700
                          Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-04-09 09:57 -0500
                            Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-09 10:20 -0700
                              Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon "Gothar the Undending, Dreaded by Darkness, Soul Eater and Destroyer of Stars" <Gothar@the.end.of.time> - 2016-04-14 23:59 +0100
                              Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-04-17 12:53 -0500
                                Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-17 13:01 -0700
                                  Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-04-17 19:38 -0500
                                    Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-18 00:27 -0700
                          Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Mandy Liefbowitz <mandyliefbowitz@the.port.side> - 2016-04-14 23:20 +0100
                Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-06 00:28 +0000
                  Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon "Robert Clark" <rgregoryclark@gmSPAMBLOACKail.com> - 2016-04-05 22:14 -0400
                    Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-06 03:38 +0000
                      Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon "Gothar the Undending, Dreaded by Darkness, Soul Eater and Destroyer of Stars" <Gothar@the.end.of.time> - 2016-04-15 01:03 +0100
                    Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon "Robert Clark" <rgregoryclark@gmSPAMBLOACKail.com> - 2016-04-16 11:58 -0400
                      Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-16 16:17 +0000
                  Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-06 00:07 -0700
                  Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-04-07 06:24 -0400
                    Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-07 19:03 +0000
                  Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon "Gothar the Undending, Dreaded by Darkness, Soul Eater and Destroyer of Stars" <Gothar@the.end.of.time> - 2016-04-15 00:25 +0100
              Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2016-04-05 19:53 -0600
                Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-06 03:42 +0000
                  Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2016-04-05 23:06 -0600
                    Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-06 18:05 +0000
                      Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-06 12:34 -0700
                        Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2016-04-07 19:18 +0000
                          Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-07 13:04 -0700
                            Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2016-04-07 21:07 +0000
                              Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-08 00:03 -0700
                                Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2016-04-08 17:50 +0000
                                  Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-08 13:03 -0700
                                    Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2016-04-08 21:47 +0000
                                      Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-08 21:24 -0700
                                        Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2016-04-09 13:55 +0000
                                          Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-04-09 10:08 -0500
                                          Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-09 08:51 -0700
                                            Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-09 18:07 +0000
                                              Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-09 12:49 -0700
                                                Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-09 20:16 +0000
                                                  Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-09 19:07 -0700
                                                    Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-10 06:16 +0000
                                                      Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-10 06:46 -0700
                                                        Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-10 16:23 +0000
                                                          Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-10 15:19 -0700
                                                            Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-10 22:49 +0000
                                                              Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-10 20:02 -0700
                                                                Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-11 04:05 +0000
                                                                  Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-11 01:41 -0700
                                                                    Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-11 18:18 +0000
                                                                      Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-11 19:20 -0700
                                                                        Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-04-17 12:53 -0500
                                                                          Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-17 13:02 -0700
                                            Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2016-04-10 12:06 +0000
                                              Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-10 06:57 -0700
                                                Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2016-04-10 14:17 +0000
                                                  Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-10 08:26 -0700
                                                    Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2016-04-10 16:40 +0000
                                                      Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-10 15:38 -0700
                                                        Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2016-04-11 19:06 +0000
                                                          Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-11 19:50 +0000
                                                            Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-11 20:02 -0700
                                                              Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-12 17:16 +0000
                                                                Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-12 15:03 -0700
                                                          Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-11 19:54 -0700
                                                            Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-12 17:18 +0000
                                                              Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-12 15:04 -0700
                                                                Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-12 22:33 +0000
                                                                  Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-12 21:48 -0700
                                                                    Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-13 05:02 +0000
                                                                      Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-13 00:07 -0700
                                                                        Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-13 17:35 +0000
                                                                          Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-13 12:23 -0700
                                                                            Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-13 20:09 +0000
                                                                              Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-13 13:36 -0700
                                                                                Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-13 21:06 +0000
                                                                                  Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-13 19:24 -0700
                                                                                    Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-14 02:51 +0000
                                                                                      Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-13 21:03 -0700
                                                                                        Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-14 04:36 +0000
                                                                                          Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-14 00:56 -0700
                                                                                            Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-14 18:02 +0000
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                                                                                                Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-14 22:09 +0000
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                                    Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon "Gothar the Undending, Dreaded by Darkness, Soul Eater and Destroyer of Stars" <Gothar@the.end.of.time> - 2016-04-15 01:21 +0100
                          Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-07 20:26 +0000
                            Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-07 23:49 -0700
                              Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-08 18:24 +0000
                                Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-08 13:10 -0700
                                  Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-08 22:40 +0000
                                    Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-08 21:55 -0700
                                      Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-09 06:11 +0000
                                        Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-09 07:49 -0700
                                          Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-09 18:21 +0000
                                            Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-09 12:57 -0700
                                              Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-09 20:29 +0000
                                                Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-09 19:30 -0700
                                    Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2016-04-09 00:01 -0600
                                Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Thomas Womack <twomack@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2016-04-09 09:21 +0100
                                  Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-09 18:24 +0000
                          Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Doc O'Leary  <droleary@2015usenet1.subsume.com> - 2016-04-09 15:49 +0000
                            Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-09 10:45 -0700
                              Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-09 19:08 +0000
                                Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-09 13:22 -0700
                                  Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-09 20:41 +0000
                                    Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-09 19:50 -0700
              Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Doc O'Leary  <droleary@2015usenet1.subsume.com> - 2016-04-06 17:39 +0000
                Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-06 18:08 +0000
                  Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-06 12:36 -0700
                    Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-07 19:06 +0000
                      Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-07 12:59 -0700
                        Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-07 20:28 +0000
                          Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-07 23:52 -0700
                            Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-08 18:26 +0000
                              Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-08 13:14 -0700
                                Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-08 22:42 +0000
                                  Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-08 21:57 -0700
                                    Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-09 06:14 +0000
                                      Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-09 07:52 -0700
                                        Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-04-09 10:09 -0500
                                        Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-09 18:31 +0000
                                          Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-09 13:00 -0700
                                            Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-09 20:34 +0000
                                              Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-09 19:42 -0700
                  Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Doc O'Leary  <droleary@2015usenet1.subsume.com> - 2016-04-07 15:55 +0000
                    Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-07 19:14 +0000
                      Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Doc O'Leary  <droleary@2015usenet1.subsume.com> - 2016-04-09 14:54 +0000
                        Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-09 18:36 +0000
                          Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-09 13:00 -0700
                            Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-09 20:36 +0000
                              Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-09 19:44 -0700
                                Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-10 06:19 +0000
                                  Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-10 06:47 -0700
                          Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2016-04-09 18:17 -0600
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#58124

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2016-04-09 21:03 +0000
Message-ID<ua7otc-q7g.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#58113
In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> 
>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>> 
>>>>In sci.physics Uncle Steve <stevet810@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, Apr 07, 2016 at 10:43:48PM -0000, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> Your point seems to be you want to cozy up to a three titted hooker
>>>>>> in a Martian bar just like in the movies.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Fred is more of a "what happens on Mars, stays on Mars" sort of fella.
>>>>> He would love an environment free from the all the stupid rules he has
>>>>> to follow.  No lawyers, no courts, no oversight, just a wide-open
>>>>> horizon of possibilities as far as he can see.
>>>> 
>>>>In a setting where a multitude of high tech systems needs to be constantly
>>>>monitored and maintained to survive more than a few minutes, I think the
>>>>societal structure would be more like a miltary post than a hippy love in. 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> So you think our current society, where a multitude of high tech
>>> systems needs to be constantly monitored and maintained to survive
>>> more than a few minutes, has a societal structure like a military
>>> post?  Wow.  Just wow.
>>
>>Last I looked there was a more than adequate supply of air on Earth,
>>space cadet.
>>
>>Or are you one of those people that can't survive more than a few minutes
>>without their iPhone?
>>
> 
> Water goes down.  What do you do?  Without outside supply you have
> less than a day before you die of dehydration.

Nope.

I see you also know nothing about human survival.

The rule of thumb is 3,3,3.

That is the normal healthy adult under average conditions dies after 3
minutes without air, 3 days without water and 3 months without food.

> Food into New York City goes down.  What do you do?  Without resupply
> you have a week before you starve to death.

Nope, a couple of months.

> Rule of thumb, bucko.  Six minutes without air, six hours without
> water, six days without food...

Absolutely wrong; see above.

Like I have said before, you know little about the human condition.

How long could a farmer in colonial America go without utilities and
resupply?

Years.

 
> [You can last longer under specialized conditions.]
> 
>>> It's funny that a known lunatic like Uncle Steve (and I mean that just
>>> like it sounds; he actually is mentally ill) spews some delusion and
>>> you pick right up on it and act like it's fact, but when confronted
>>> with facts you insist they're not true.
>>
>>I never heard of Uncle Steve unless you are talking about the character
>>Steve Martin plays in his comedy act.
>>
>>> Trudge on back to your cave, Chimp...
>> 
>>Again, hangar, no cave space cadet.
>> 
> 
> Again, a century ago you'd be railing against airplanes, Chimp.
 
Again, a century ago I'd be building airplanes and making a profit at it.
 

-- 
Jim Pennino

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#58136

FromFred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com>
Date2016-04-09 20:11 -0700
Message-ID<esgjgb9fulmlrvk9pie2u0agmgrr97kle2@4ax.com>
In reply to#58124
jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:

>How long could a farmer in colonial America go without utilities and
>resupply?
>
>Years.
>

Nope.  Well, if he was well supplied to start.  Same is true on Mars,
by the way.

> 
>> [You can last longer under specialized conditions.]
>> 
>>>> It's funny that a known lunatic like Uncle Steve (and I mean that just
>>>> like it sounds; he actually is mentally ill) spews some delusion and
>>>> you pick right up on it and act like it's fact, but when confronted
>>>> with facts you insist they're not true.
>>>
>>>I never heard of Uncle Steve unless you are talking about the character
>>>Steve Martin plays in his comedy act.
>>>

I'm talking about the guy you were responding to.  Is this why you're
so confused?  You think everyone on the internet but you is all the
same person?

>>>> Trudge on back to your cave, Chimp...
>>> 
>>>Again, hangar, no cave space cadet.
>>> 
>> 
>> Again, a century ago you'd be railing against airplanes, Chimp.
> 
>Again, a century ago I'd be building airplanes and making a profit at it.
> 

Bullshit.  You have great 20/20 hindsight, which I guess isn't
surprising, what with your head up your ass like that and all.  Your
foresight, on the other hand, is pretty much nonexistent.  I guess
your stomach gets in the way.

Back to your cave, chimp.


-- 
"Ordinarily he is insane. But he has lucid moments when he is
 only stupid."
                            -- Heinrich Heine 

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#58145

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2016-04-10 06:23 +0000
Message-ID<i48ptc-3mj.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#58136
In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> 
>>How long could a farmer in colonial America go without utilities and
>>resupply?
>>
>>Years.
>>
> 
> Nope.  Well, if he was well supplied to start.  Same is true on Mars,
> by the way.

Nope, farming communities by definition are pretty self sufficient and have
been since antiquity.

Just what supplies do you think a farmer needs?


>>> [You can last longer under specialized conditions.]
>>> 
>>>>> It's funny that a known lunatic like Uncle Steve (and I mean that just
>>>>> like it sounds; he actually is mentally ill) spews some delusion and
>>>>> you pick right up on it and act like it's fact, but when confronted
>>>>> with facts you insist they're not true.
>>>>
>>>>I never heard of Uncle Steve unless you are talking about the character
>>>>Steve Martin plays in his comedy act.
>>>>
> 
> I'm talking about the guy you were responding to.  Is this why you're
> so confused?  You think everyone on the internet but you is all the
> same person?

In looking through the headers I see no one calling themselve Uncle Steve.
> 
>>>>> Trudge on back to your cave, Chimp...
>>>> 
>>>>Again, hangar, no cave space cadet.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Again, a century ago you'd be railing against airplanes, Chimp.
>> 
>>Again, a century ago I'd be building airplanes and making a profit at it.
>> 
> 
> Bullshit.  You have great 20/20 hindsight, which I guess isn't
> surprising, what with your head up your ass like that and all.  Your
> foresight, on the other hand, is pretty much nonexistent.  I guess
> your stomach gets in the way.
> 
> Back to your cave, chimp.
 
Fuck off and die, silly space cadet.
 

-- 
Jim Pennino

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#58149

FromFred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com>
Date2016-04-10 06:50 -0700
Message-ID<gcmkgb1c69c6sd4qfo143l3b03gg2e87bi@4ax.com>
In reply to#58145
jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:

>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> 
>>>How long could a farmer in colonial America go without utilities and
>>>resupply?
>>>
>>>Years.
>>>
>> 
>> Nope.  Well, if he was well supplied to start.  Same is true on Mars,
>> by the way.
>
>Nope, farming communities by definition are pretty self sufficient and have
>been since antiquity.
>
>Just what supplies do you think a farmer needs?
>

Axes, knives, plow blades, other manufactured goods, textiles, .....

>
>>>> [You can last longer under specialized conditions.]
>>>> 
>>>>>> It's funny that a known lunatic like Uncle Steve (and I mean that just
>>>>>> like it sounds; he actually is mentally ill) spews some delusion and
>>>>>> you pick right up on it and act like it's fact, but when confronted
>>>>>> with facts you insist they're not true.
>>>>>
>>>>>I never heard of Uncle Steve unless you are talking about the character
>>>>>Steve Martin plays in his comedy act.
>>>>>
>> 
>> I'm talking about the guy you were responding to.  Is this why you're
>> so confused?  You think everyone on the internet but you is all the
>> same person?
>
>In looking through the headers I see no one calling themselve Uncle Steve.
>

So you're stupid, then.  It was right there.  Do I really need to sort
back through it and rub your nose in it?

>
>> 
>>>>>> Trudge on back to your cave, Chimp...
>>>>> 
>>>>>Again, hangar, no cave space cadet.
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Again, a century ago you'd be railing against airplanes, Chimp.
>>> 
>>>Again, a century ago I'd be building airplanes and making a profit at it.
>>> 
>> 
>> Bullshit.  You have great 20/20 hindsight, which I guess isn't
>> surprising, what with your head up your ass like that and all.  Your
>> foresight, on the other hand, is pretty much nonexistent.  I guess
>> your stomach gets in the way.
>> 
>> Back to your cave, chimp.
>
> 
>Fuck off and die, silly space cadet.
> 

Come make me, chimp.  Now that you've threatened my life and me being
the easily frightened person that I am, I have no choice but to assume
you are a threat to my life and health...


-- 
"You take the lies out of him, and he'll shrink to the size of
 your hat; you take the malice out of him, and he'll disappear."
                             -- Mark Twain

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#58158

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2016-04-10 16:49 +0000
Message-ID<vpcqtc-6hn.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#58149
In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> 
>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>> 
>>>>How long could a farmer in colonial America go without utilities and
>>>>resupply?
>>>>
>>>>Years.
>>>>
>>> 
>>> Nope.  Well, if he was well supplied to start.  Same is true on Mars,
>>> by the way.
>>
>>Nope, farming communities by definition are pretty self sufficient and have
>>been since antiquity.
>>
>>Just what supplies do you think a farmer needs?
>>
> 
> Axes, knives, plow blades, other manufactured goods, textiles, .....
> 
>>
>>>>> [You can last longer under specialized conditions.]
>>>>> 
>>>>>>> It's funny that a known lunatic like Uncle Steve (and I mean that just
>>>>>>> like it sounds; he actually is mentally ill) spews some delusion and
>>>>>>> you pick right up on it and act like it's fact, but when confronted
>>>>>>> with facts you insist they're not true.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I never heard of Uncle Steve unless you are talking about the character
>>>>>>Steve Martin plays in his comedy act.
>>>>>>
>>> 
>>> I'm talking about the guy you were responding to.  Is this why you're
>>> so confused?  You think everyone on the internet but you is all the
>>> same person?
>>
>>In looking through the headers I see no one calling themselve Uncle Steve.
>>
> 
> So you're stupid, then.  It was right there.  Do I really need to sort
> back through it and rub your nose in it?

My newsreader shows what the poster uses as a name.

You show up as Fred J. McCall; no Uncle Steve.

>>>>>>> Trudge on back to your cave, Chimp...
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>Again, hangar, no cave space cadet.
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Again, a century ago you'd be railing against airplanes, Chimp.
>>>> 
>>>>Again, a century ago I'd be building airplanes and making a profit at it.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Bullshit.  You have great 20/20 hindsight, which I guess isn't
>>> surprising, what with your head up your ass like that and all.  Your
>>> foresight, on the other hand, is pretty much nonexistent.  I guess
>>> your stomach gets in the way.
>>> 
>>> Back to your cave, chimp.
>>
>> 
>>Fuck off and die, silly space cadet.
>> 
> 
> Come make me, chimp.  Now that you've threatened my life and me being
> the easily frightened person that I am, I have no choice but to assume
> you are a threat to my life and health...
 
You really are a moron space cadet if you think that is a threat.

So run to the cops and tell them someone told you to fuck off and die
because you are an insulting ass hole.



-- 
Jim Pennino

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#58170

FromFred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com>
Date2016-04-10 16:16 -0700
Message-ID<rinlgbh97l40rfatuu84146oaclgrfpmoa@4ax.com>
In reply to#58158
jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:

>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> 
>>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>>How long could a farmer in colonial America go without utilities and
>>>>>resupply?
>>>>>
>>>>>Years.
>>>>>
>>>> 
>>>> Nope.  Well, if he was well supplied to start.  Same is true on Mars,
>>>> by the way.
>>>
>>>Nope, farming communities by definition are pretty self sufficient and have
>>>been since antiquity.
>>>
>>>Just what supplies do you think a farmer needs?
>>>
>> 
>> Axes, knives, plow blades, other manufactured goods, textiles, .....
>> 
>>>
>>>>>> [You can last longer under specialized conditions.]
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> It's funny that a known lunatic like Uncle Steve (and I mean that just
>>>>>>>> like it sounds; he actually is mentally ill) spews some delusion and
>>>>>>>> you pick right up on it and act like it's fact, but when confronted
>>>>>>>> with facts you insist they're not true.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I never heard of Uncle Steve unless you are talking about the character
>>>>>>>Steve Martin plays in his comedy act.
>>>>>>>
>>>> 
>>>> I'm talking about the guy you were responding to.  Is this why you're
>>>> so confused?  You think everyone on the internet but you is all the
>>>> same person?
>>>
>>>In looking through the headers I see no one calling themselve Uncle Steve.
>>>
>> 
>> So you're stupid, then.  It was right there.  Do I really need to sort
>> back through it and rub your nose in it?
>
>My newsreader shows what the poster uses as a name.
>

You should pay more attention to it.

>
>You show up as Fred J. McCall; no Uncle Steve.
>

Yes, I do, because I'm not Uncle Steve.  That's the POINT, you
dipshit.

>>>>>>>> Trudge on back to your cave, Chimp...
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>Again, hangar, no cave space cadet.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Again, a century ago you'd be railing against airplanes, Chimp.
>>>>> 
>>>>>Again, a century ago I'd be building airplanes and making a profit at it.
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Bullshit.  You have great 20/20 hindsight, which I guess isn't
>>>> surprising, what with your head up your ass like that and all.  Your
>>>> foresight, on the other hand, is pretty much nonexistent.  I guess
>>>> your stomach gets in the way.
>>>> 
>>>> Back to your cave, chimp.
>>>
>>> 
>>>Fuck off and die, silly space cadet.
>>> 
>> 
>> Come make me, chimp.  Now that you've threatened my life and me being
>> the easily frightened person that I am, I have no choice but to assume
>> you are a threat to my life and health...
> 
>You really are a moron space cadet if you think that is a threat.
>
>So run to the cops and tell them someone told you to fuck off and die
>because you are an insulting ass hole.
>

And you're too stupid to even get the point.  Perhaps someone else
will explain it to you.


-- 
"Some people get lost in thought because it's such unfamiliar
 territory."
                                      --G. Behn

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#58176

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2016-04-11 01:14 +0000
Message-ID<dcartc-9iq.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#58170
In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> 
>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>> 
>>>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>>How long could a farmer in colonial America go without utilities and
>>>>>>resupply?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Years.
>>>>>>
>>>>> 
>>>>> Nope.  Well, if he was well supplied to start.  Same is true on Mars,
>>>>> by the way.
>>>>
>>>>Nope, farming communities by definition are pretty self sufficient and have
>>>>been since antiquity.
>>>>
>>>>Just what supplies do you think a farmer needs?
>>>>
>>> 
>>> Axes, knives, plow blades, other manufactured goods, textiles, .....
>>> 
>>>>
>>>>>>> [You can last longer under specialized conditions.]
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> It's funny that a known lunatic like Uncle Steve (and I mean that just
>>>>>>>>> like it sounds; he actually is mentally ill) spews some delusion and
>>>>>>>>> you pick right up on it and act like it's fact, but when confronted
>>>>>>>>> with facts you insist they're not true.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I never heard of Uncle Steve unless you are talking about the character
>>>>>>>>Steve Martin plays in his comedy act.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'm talking about the guy you were responding to.  Is this why you're
>>>>> so confused?  You think everyone on the internet but you is all the
>>>>> same person?
>>>>
>>>>In looking through the headers I see no one calling themselve Uncle Steve.
>>>>
>>> 
>>> So you're stupid, then.  It was right there.  Do I really need to sort
>>> back through it and rub your nose in it?
>>
>>My newsreader shows what the poster uses as a name.
>>
> 
> You should pay more attention to it.
> 
>>
>>You show up as Fred J. McCall; no Uncle Steve.
>>
> 
> Yes, I do, because I'm not Uncle Steve.  That's the POINT, you
> dipshit.

The point, space cadet fool, is that my newsreader does NOT show any
poster in this thread as Uncle Steve no matter how much you stomp your
feet.

>>>>>>>>> Trudge on back to your cave, Chimp...
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>Again, hangar, no cave space cadet.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Again, a century ago you'd be railing against airplanes, Chimp.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>Again, a century ago I'd be building airplanes and making a profit at it.
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Bullshit.  You have great 20/20 hindsight, which I guess isn't
>>>>> surprising, what with your head up your ass like that and all.  Your
>>>>> foresight, on the other hand, is pretty much nonexistent.  I guess
>>>>> your stomach gets in the way.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Back to your cave, chimp.
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>>Fuck off and die, silly space cadet.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Come make me, chimp.  Now that you've threatened my life and me being
>>> the easily frightened person that I am, I have no choice but to assume
>>> you are a threat to my life and health...
>> 
>>You really are a moron space cadet if you think that is a threat.
>>
>>So run to the cops and tell them someone told you to fuck off and die
>>because you are an insulting ass hole.
>>
> 
> And you're too stupid to even get the point.  Perhaps someone else
> will explain it to you.

Fuck off and die, silly space cadet.



-- 
Jim Pennino

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#58182

FromFred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com>
Date2016-04-10 20:26 -0700
Message-ID<a76mgbt8memmedpl8r5pehihp98n6t28r4@4ax.com>
In reply to#58176
jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:

>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> 
>>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>How long could a farmer in colonial America go without utilities and
>>>>>>>resupply?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Years.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Nope.  Well, if he was well supplied to start.  Same is true on Mars,
>>>>>> by the way.
>>>>>
>>>>>Nope, farming communities by definition are pretty self sufficient and have
>>>>>been since antiquity.
>>>>>
>>>>>Just what supplies do you think a farmer needs?
>>>>>
>>>> 
>>>> Axes, knives, plow blades, other manufactured goods, textiles, .....
>>>> 
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> [You can last longer under specialized conditions.]
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> It's funny that a known lunatic like Uncle Steve (and I mean that just
>>>>>>>>>> like it sounds; he actually is mentally ill) spews some delusion and
>>>>>>>>>> you pick right up on it and act like it's fact, but when confronted
>>>>>>>>>> with facts you insist they're not true.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I never heard of Uncle Steve unless you are talking about the character
>>>>>>>>>Steve Martin plays in his comedy act.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I'm talking about the guy you were responding to.  Is this why you're
>>>>>> so confused?  You think everyone on the internet but you is all the
>>>>>> same person?
>>>>>
>>>>>In looking through the headers I see no one calling themselve Uncle Steve.
>>>>>
>>>> 
>>>> So you're stupid, then.  It was right there.  Do I really need to sort
>>>> back through it and rub your nose in it?
>>>
>>>My newsreader shows what the poster uses as a name.
>>>
>> 
>> You should pay more attention to it.
>> 
>>>
>>>You show up as Fred J. McCall; no Uncle Steve.
>>>
>> 
>> Yes, I do, because I'm not Uncle Steve.  That's the POINT, you
>> dipshit.
>>
>
>The point, space cadet fool, is that my newsreader does NOT show any
>poster in this thread as Uncle Steve no matter how much you stomp your
>feet.
>

The point, chimpshit drool, is that nobody said it was THIS subthread
no matter how much you stomp your feet.

>>>>>>>>>> Trudge on back to your cave, Chimp...
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>Again, hangar, no cave space cadet.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Again, a century ago you'd be railing against airplanes, Chimp.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>Again, a century ago I'd be building airplanes and making a profit at it.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Bullshit.  You have great 20/20 hindsight, which I guess isn't
>>>>>> surprising, what with your head up your ass like that and all.  Your
>>>>>> foresight, on the other hand, is pretty much nonexistent.  I guess
>>>>>> your stomach gets in the way.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Back to your cave, chimp.
>>>>>
>>>>> 
>>>>>Fuck off and die, silly space cadet.
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Come make me, chimp.  Now that you've threatened my life and me being
>>>> the easily frightened person that I am, I have no choice but to assume
>>>> you are a threat to my life and health...
>>> 
>>>You really are a moron space cadet if you think that is a threat.
>>>
>>>So run to the cops and tell them someone told you to fuck off and die
>>>because you are an insulting ass hole.
>>>
>> 
>> And you're too stupid to even get the point.  Perhaps someone else
>> will explain it to you.
>>
>
>Fuck off and die, silly space cadet.
>

Come make me, chimpshit.


-- 
"Der Feige droht nur, wo er sicher ist."
        --Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

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#58194

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2016-04-11 06:16 +0000
Message-ID<t2srtc-q9s.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#58182
In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> 
>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>> 
>>>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>How long could a farmer in colonial America go without utilities and
>>>>>>>>resupply?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Years.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Nope.  Well, if he was well supplied to start.  Same is true on Mars,
>>>>>>> by the way.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Nope, farming communities by definition are pretty self sufficient and have
>>>>>>been since antiquity.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Just what supplies do you think a farmer needs?
>>>>>>
>>>>> 
>>>>> Axes, knives, plow blades, other manufactured goods, textiles, .....
>>>>> 
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> [You can last longer under specialized conditions.]
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> It's funny that a known lunatic like Uncle Steve (and I mean that just
>>>>>>>>>>> like it sounds; he actually is mentally ill) spews some delusion and
>>>>>>>>>>> you pick right up on it and act like it's fact, but when confronted
>>>>>>>>>>> with facts you insist they're not true.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>I never heard of Uncle Steve unless you are talking about the character
>>>>>>>>>>Steve Martin plays in his comedy act.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I'm talking about the guy you were responding to.  Is this why you're
>>>>>>> so confused?  You think everyone on the internet but you is all the
>>>>>>> same person?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>In looking through the headers I see no one calling themselve Uncle Steve.
>>>>>>
>>>>> 
>>>>> So you're stupid, then.  It was right there.  Do I really need to sort
>>>>> back through it and rub your nose in it?
>>>>
>>>>My newsreader shows what the poster uses as a name.
>>>>
>>> 
>>> You should pay more attention to it.
>>> 
>>>>
>>>>You show up as Fred J. McCall; no Uncle Steve.
>>>>
>>> 
>>> Yes, I do, because I'm not Uncle Steve.  That's the POINT, you
>>> dipshit.
>>>
>>
>>The point, space cadet fool, is that my newsreader does NOT show any
>>poster in this thread as Uncle Steve no matter how much you stomp your
>>feet.
>>
> 
> The point, chimpshit drool, is that nobody said it was THIS subthread
> no matter how much you stomp your feet.

I said I looked at THIS thread and didn't see any Uncle Steve and then
you went into drooling rave mode about newsreaders, space cadet.

> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Trudge on back to your cave, Chimp...
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>Again, hangar, no cave space cadet.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Again, a century ago you'd be railing against airplanes, Chimp.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>Again, a century ago I'd be building airplanes and making a profit at it.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Bullshit.  You have great 20/20 hindsight, which I guess isn't
>>>>>>> surprising, what with your head up your ass like that and all.  Your
>>>>>>> foresight, on the other hand, is pretty much nonexistent.  I guess
>>>>>>> your stomach gets in the way.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Back to your cave, chimp.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>Fuck off and die, silly space cadet.
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Come make me, chimp.  Now that you've threatened my life and me being
>>>>> the easily frightened person that I am, I have no choice but to assume
>>>>> you are a threat to my life and health...
>>>> 
>>>>You really are a moron space cadet if you think that is a threat.
>>>>
>>>>So run to the cops and tell them someone told you to fuck off and die
>>>>because you are an insulting ass hole.
>>>>
>>> 
>>> And you're too stupid to even get the point.  Perhaps someone else
>>> will explain it to you.
>>>
>>
>>Fuck off and die, silly space cadet.
>>
> 
> Come make me, chimpshit.
 
You're not worth crossing the street to spit on, space cadet.
 

-- 
Jim Pennino

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#58198

FromFred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com>
Date2016-04-11 07:40 -0700
Message-ID<1odngb9kqtnpd8smj50ln4ecvf4rhabhkt@4ax.com>
In reply to#58194
jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:

>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> 
>>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>How long could a farmer in colonial America go without utilities and
>>>>>>>>>resupply?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Years.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Nope.  Well, if he was well supplied to start.  Same is true on Mars,
>>>>>>>> by the way.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Nope, farming communities by definition are pretty self sufficient and have
>>>>>>>been since antiquity.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Just what supplies do you think a farmer needs?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Axes, knives, plow blades, other manufactured goods, textiles, .....
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> [You can last longer under specialized conditions.]
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> It's funny that a known lunatic like Uncle Steve (and I mean that just
>>>>>>>>>>>> like it sounds; he actually is mentally ill) spews some delusion and
>>>>>>>>>>>> you pick right up on it and act like it's fact, but when confronted
>>>>>>>>>>>> with facts you insist they're not true.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>I never heard of Uncle Steve unless you are talking about the character
>>>>>>>>>>>Steve Martin plays in his comedy act.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I'm talking about the guy you were responding to.  Is this why you're
>>>>>>>> so confused?  You think everyone on the internet but you is all the
>>>>>>>> same person?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>In looking through the headers I see no one calling themselve Uncle Steve.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> So you're stupid, then.  It was right there.  Do I really need to sort
>>>>>> back through it and rub your nose in it?
>>>>>
>>>>>My newsreader shows what the poster uses as a name.
>>>>>
>>>> 
>>>> You should pay more attention to it.
>>>> 
>>>>>
>>>>>You show up as Fred J. McCall; no Uncle Steve.
>>>>>
>>>> 
>>>> Yes, I do, because I'm not Uncle Steve.  That's the POINT, you
>>>> dipshit.
>>>>
>>>
>>>The point, space cadet fool, is that my newsreader does NOT show any
>>>poster in this thread as Uncle Steve no matter how much you stomp your
>>>feet.
>>>
>> 
>> The point, chimpshit drool, is that nobody said it was THIS subthread
>> no matter how much you stomp your feet.
>
>I said I looked at THIS thread and didn't see any Uncle Steve and then
>you went into drooling rave mode about newsreaders, space cadet.
>

In other words, you said something stupid and didn't understand the
response.

>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Trudge on back to your cave, Chimp...
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>Again, hangar, no cave space cadet.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Again, a century ago you'd be railing against airplanes, Chimp.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>Again, a century ago I'd be building airplanes and making a profit at it.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Bullshit.  You have great 20/20 hindsight, which I guess isn't
>>>>>>>> surprising, what with your head up your ass like that and all.  Your
>>>>>>>> foresight, on the other hand, is pretty much nonexistent.  I guess
>>>>>>>> your stomach gets in the way.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Back to your cave, chimp.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>Fuck off and die, silly space cadet.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Come make me, chimp.  Now that you've threatened my life and me being
>>>>>> the easily frightened person that I am, I have no choice but to assume
>>>>>> you are a threat to my life and health...
>>>>> 
>>>>>You really are a moron space cadet if you think that is a threat.
>>>>>
>>>>>So run to the cops and tell them someone told you to fuck off and die
>>>>>because you are an insulting ass hole.
>>>>>
>>>> 
>>>> And you're too stupid to even get the point.  Perhaps someone else
>>>> will explain it to you.
>>>>
>>>
>>>Fuck off and die, silly space cadet.
>>>
>> 
>> Come make me, chimpshit.
> 
>You're not worth crossing the street to spit on, space cadet.
> 

Coward.


-- 
"Der Feige droht nur, wo er sicher ist."
        --Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

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#58208

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2016-04-11 18:30 +0000
Message-ID<a37ttc-ji3.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#58198
In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:

<snip>
 
>>You're not worth crossing the street to spit on, space cadet.
>> 
> 
> Coward.
 
Are you requesting a physical confrontation, space cadet?
 

-- 
Jim Pennino

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#58219

FromFred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com>
Date2016-04-11 19:27 -0700
Message-ID<56nogb907aai0aan9flmmdbkk9t8813736@4ax.com>
In reply to#58208
jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:

>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>
><snip>
> 
>>>You're not worth crossing the street to spit on, space cadet.
>>> 
>> 
>> Coward.
>>
> 
>Are you requesting a physical confrontation, space cadet?
> 

Just remember that after your threats I now have good reason to fear
your intention to injure or kill me...


-- 
"The odds get even - You blame the game.
 The odds get even - The stakes are the same.
 You bet your life."
                      -- "You Bet Your Life", Rush

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#58235

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2016-04-12 17:27 +0000
Message-ID<spnvtc-24f.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#58219
In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> 
>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>
>><snip>
>> 
>>>>You're not worth crossing the street to spit on, space cadet.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Coward.
>>>
>> 
>>Are you requesting a physical confrontation, space cadet?
>> 
> 
> Just remember that after your threats I now have good reason to fear
> your intention to injure or kill me...
 
What threats would that be, space cadet?

You are the one that seems to be requesting a physical confrontation.

-- 
Jim Pennino

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#58027

FromSergio <invalid@invalid.com>
Date2016-04-07 21:40 -0500
Message-ID<ne75nc$18pd$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#58024
On 4/7/2016 4:26 PM, Fred J. McCall wrote:
> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>
>> In sci.physics Doc O'Leary <droleary@2015usenet1.subsume.com> wrote:
>>> For your reference, records indicate that
>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>

>>>
>>>> So just what are the natural resources available on Mars?

rocks, dust, no air.


>>>> There are no forests, no lakes, no rivers, no life and no air.
>>>
>>> You seem to have more knowledge than NASA on those things.  How is that?

that is what NASA says...



>>
>
> They've announced there's free flowing water on Mars, water vapour in
> the atmosphere, underground ices.

no, not free flowing water.




>>
>> So you think you can survive on the Moon or Mars without a presurized
>> building? Are you going to live in a pressure suit 24/7?

how you gonna poop ?



>
>> I have been talking about colonies, i.e. families and kids.

you want your kids on Mars ?  so do a lot of other parents.

>>
>> A research station requires very little in terms of infrastructure, just
>> constant resupply.
>>
>
> Wrong.  You see, this is the kind of error you make when you misapply
> 'economic thinking' from ignorance.  First example, it's cheaper to
> ship an automated rocket fuel factory to Mars to make fuel for the
> return trip than it is to ship the fuel.

so, how do you make fuel from dust and rocks ?


>>
>> It is my opinion that an off Earth true colony would cost far too much
>> for anyone to ever try it and few people would be willing to permanently
>> move to one.

agree,  it will be worse than being in prison.


>>
>> It is my opinion that off Earth research stations are of limited value
>> and the cost and rewards of doing them should be balanced against sending
>> swarms of robots throughout the solar system.
>>

how do you wash clothes in space ?  use how much water, then purify the 
water, how ?  be specific.

You will find washing clothes is one of the key restraints on space travel.

what do they do now? not washing, the ship new clothes up with the shuttle.

you will find that Man is specifically designed to exist on Earth. 
(water, air, food, cleaning, poop, etc)

not Mars, Not the moon.


>
> If people aren't going, there's no point to "swarms of robots" so the
> cost there is zero.

robot probes will work

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#58091

FromDoc O'Leary <droleary@2015usenet1.subsume.com>
Date2016-04-09 15:29 +0000
Message-ID<neb75g$qk1$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#58018
For your reference, records indicate that 
jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:

> I use economic thinking.

Think about thinking more rationally.  Think about thinking about 
not finance and banking, but survival.

> It is well known that there is lots of gold in sea water but it costs
> far more to extract than the gold is worth.

What the hell does that have to do with anything?  First you bring up 
Antartica and then say it’s irrelevant, and now you do the same with 
gold.  Nobody on a planet other than Earth is going to give a *shit* 
about gold.  Unless it relates to survival, everything you’re thinking 
about is irrelevant.

> >> There are no forests, no lakes, no rivers, no life and no air.
> > 
> > You seem to have more knowledge than NASA on those things.  How is that?
> 
> When did NASA announce there are forests, lakes, rivers, life, and
> air anywhere else than Earth?

You again demonstrate a lack of logical thinking.  You set out to prove 
a negative; that’s *your* burden, not mine.

But, of course, it is entirely irrelevant.  A moon/planet can be devoid 
of those resources and yet still have many other ones to work with.  It 
just becomes a different problem to solve.  Perhaps more complex, from 
a “let’s see if we can transplant Earthlings there” standpoint, but 
there is nothing a priori that says it couldn’t be done.

> >> something usefull to build the domed and pressurized buildings 
> >> required to survive and do anything.
> > 
> > If thats how you think about what is *required* to survive, you clearly 
> > havent thought much about the problem.  These are *your* straw men.
> 
> So you think you can survive on the Moon or Mars without a presurized
> building? Are you going to live in a pressure suit 24/7?

Maybe.  The point is to solve the problems that *actually* exist, not 
dream up straw men like the “need” to build domed cities.

> It is my opinion that an off Earth true colony would cost far too much
> for anyone to ever try it and few people would be willing to permanently
> move to one.

“Ever” is a mighty long time.  The only real question is *how much* would 
it cost at any particular time, and how might those costs be reduced 
until it *does* become something that some impossibly stupid billionaire 
is willing to try it in order to stake a claim on an entire new world.

-- 
"Also . . . I can kill you with my brain."
River Tam, Trash, Firefly

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#58104

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2016-04-09 19:02 +0000
Message-ID<n70otc-2gf.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#58091
In sci.physics Doc O'Leary <droleary@2015usenet1.subsume.com> wrote:
> For your reference, records indicate that 
> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> 
>> I use economic thinking.
> 
> Think about thinking more rationally.  Think about thinking about 
> not finance and banking, but survival.

And it will take a LOT of finance to get to and survive on Mars.

>> It is well known that there is lots of gold in sea water but it costs
>> far more to extract than the gold is worth.
> 
> What the hell does that have to do with anything?  First you bring up 
> Antartica and then say its irrelevant, and now you do the same with 
> gold.  Nobody on a planet other than Earth is going to give a *shit* 
> about gold.  Unless it relates to survival, everything you’re thinking 
> about is irrelevant.

Pay attention; it was about the economics of going to other places, i.e.
getting a return on investment, which was a big motivator for the
colonizaton of the Americas.

>> >> There are no forests, no lakes, no rivers, no life and no air.
>> > 
>> > You seem to have more knowledge than NASA on those things.  How is that?
>> 
>> When did NASA announce there are forests, lakes, rivers, life, and
>> air anywhere else than Earth?
> 
> You again demonstrate a lack of logical thinking.  You set out to prove 
> a negative; thats *your* burden, not mine.

Nope, it is your delusiong there are forests, lakes, rivers, life, and air
anywhere other than Earth.

> But, of course, it is entirely irrelevant.  A moon/planet can be devoid 
> of those resources and yet still have many other ones to work with.  It 
> just becomes a different problem to solve.  Perhaps more complex, from 
> aet’s see if we can transplant Earthlings there” standpoint, but 
> there is nothing a priori that says it couldnt be done.

Be done is not the same thing as ROI.

>> >> something usefull to build the domed and pressurized buildings 
>> >> required to survive and do anything.
>> > 
>> > If thats how you think about what is *required* to survive, you clearly 
>> > havent thought much about the problem.  These are *your* straw men.
>> 
>> So you think you can survive on the Moon or Mars without a presurized
>> building? Are you going to live in a pressure suit 24/7?
> 
> Maybe.  The point is to solve the problems that *actually* exist, not 
> dream up straw men like the need” to builddomed cities.

The need to build pressurized work and living areas does exist.

>> It is my opinion that an off Earth true colony would cost far too much
>> for anyone to ever try it and few people would be willing to permanently
>> move to one.
> 
> “Ever” is a mighty long time.  The only real question is *how much* would 
> it cost at any particular time, and how might those costs be reduced 
> until it *does* become something that some impossibly stupid billionaire 
> is willing to try it in order to stake a claim on an entire new world.

And do what with it?

Spain conquered a big part of the New World for the easily gotten wealth.

There is nothing off the Earth valuable enough to turn a profit after
acquistion and shipping costs.

 

-- 
Jim Pennino

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#58114

FromFred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com>
Date2016-04-09 13:20 -0700
Message-ID<shoigbdh0lsjeu0derksobg8p3dd3htcii@4ax.com>
In reply to#58104
jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:

>In sci.physics Doc O'Leary <droleary@2015usenet1.subsume.com> wrote:
>> For your reference, records indicate that 
>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> 
>>> I use economic thinking.
>> 
>> Think about thinking more rationally.  Think about thinking about 
>> not finance and banking, but survival.
>
>And it will take a LOT of finance to get to and survive on Mars.
>

Musk thinks he can make it work at $500,000 per colonist and include a
free trip back to Earth for those who decide it's not their cup of
tea.  There are a lot of people who can afford that.  Hell, *I* can
afford that.

>>> It is well known that there is lots of gold in sea water but it costs
>>> far more to extract than the gold is worth.
>> 
>> What the hell does that have to do with anything?  First you bring up 
>> Antartica and then say its irrelevant, and now you do the same with 
>> gold.  Nobody on a planet other than Earth is going to give a *shit* 
>> about gold.  Unless it relates to survival, everything you’re thinking 
>> about is irrelevant.
>
>Pay attention; it was about the economics of going to other places, i.e.
>getting a return on investment, which was a big motivator for the
>colonizaton of the Americas.
>

Weren't you just raving about "freedom from religious persecution"? So
which is it?

>>> >> There are no forests, no lakes, no rivers, no life and no air.
>>> > 
>>> > You seem to have more knowledge than NASA on those things.  How is that?
>>> 
>>> When did NASA announce there are forests, lakes, rivers, life, and
>>> air anywhere else than Earth?
>> 
>> You again demonstrate a lack of logical thinking.  You set out to prove 
>> a negative; thats *your* burden, not mine.
>
>Nope, it is your delusiong there are forests, lakes, rivers, life, and air
>anywhere other than Earth.
>

<yawn>

>> But, of course, it is entirely irrelevant.  A moon/planet can be devoid 
>> of those resources and yet still have many other ones to work with.  It 
>> just becomes a different problem to solve.  Perhaps more complex, from 
>> aet’s see if we can transplant Earthlings there” standpoint, but 
>> there is nothing a priori that says it couldnt be done.
>
>Be done is not the same thing as ROI.
>

Religious persecution is not the same thing as ROI.  Care to choose
one?

>>> >> something usefull to build the domed and pressurized buildings 
>>> >> required to survive and do anything.
>>> > 
>>> > If thats how you think about what is *required* to survive, you clearly 
>>> > havent thought much about the problem.  These are *your* straw men.
>>> 
>>> So you think you can survive on the Moon or Mars without a presurized
>>> building? Are you going to live in a pressure suit 24/7?
>> 
>> Maybe.  The point is to solve the problems that *actually* exist, not 
>> dream up straw men like the need” to builddomed cities.
>
>The need to build pressurized work and living areas does exist.
>

And is easy.

>>> It is my opinion that an off Earth true colony would cost far too much
>>> for anyone to ever try it and few people would be willing to permanently
>>> move to one.
>> 
>> “Ever” is a mighty long time.  The only real question is *how much* would 
>> it cost at any particular time, and how might those costs be reduced 
>> until it *does* become something that some impossibly stupid billionaire 
>> is willing to try it in order to stake a claim on an entire new world.
>
>And do what with it?
>
>Spain conquered a big part of the New World for the easily gotten wealth.
>
>There is nothing off the Earth valuable enough to turn a profit after
>acquistion and shipping costs.
>

Your intellectual myopia is not 'proof'.


-- 
"Ordinarily he is insane. But he has lucid moments when he is
 only stupid."
                            -- Heinrich Heine 

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#58125

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2016-04-09 21:14 +0000
Message-ID<pt7otc-q7g.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#58114
In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> 
>>In sci.physics Doc O'Leary <droleary@2015usenet1.subsume.com> wrote:
>>> For your reference, records indicate that 
>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I use economic thinking.
>>> 
>>> Think about thinking more rationally.  Think about thinking about 
>>> not finance and banking, but survival.
>>
>>And it will take a LOT of finance to get to and survive on Mars.
>>
> 
> Musk thinks he can make it work at $500,000 per colonist and include a
> free trip back to Earth for those who decide it's not their cup of
> tea.  There are a lot of people who can afford that.  Hell, *I* can
> afford that.

So can I and the wife.

However if I were to tell her we were going to to live on Mars, the
best I could expect is a divorce as opposed to being shot.

>>>> It is well known that there is lots of gold in sea water but it costs
>>>> far more to extract than the gold is worth.
>>> 
>>> What the hell does that have to do with anything?  First you bring up 
>>> Antartica and then say its irrelevant, and now you do the same with 
>>> gold.  Nobody on a planet other than Earth is going to give a *shit* 
>>> about gold.  Unless it relates to survival, everything you?re thinking 
>>> about is irrelevant.
>>
>>Pay attention; it was about the economics of going to other places, i.e.
>>getting a return on investment, which was a big motivator for the
>>colonizaton of the Americas.
>>
> 
> Weren't you just raving about "freedom from religious persecution"? So
> which is it?

Some of both, but mostly ROI for those that put the colonies together.

Ever heard of the London Company, established 1606, with the purpose of
establishing colonial settlements in North America?


>>>> >> There are no forests, no lakes, no rivers, no life and no air.
>>>> > 
>>>> > You seem to have more knowledge than NASA on those things.  How is that?
>>>> 
>>>> When did NASA announce there are forests, lakes, rivers, life, and
>>>> air anywhere else than Earth?
>>> 
>>> You again demonstrate a lack of logical thinking.  You set out to prove 
>>> a negative; thats *your* burden, not mine.
>>
>>Nope, it is your delusiong there are forests, lakes, rivers, life, and air
>>anywhere other than Earth.
>>
> 
> <yawn>
> 
>>> But, of course, it is entirely irrelevant.  A moon/planet can be devoid 
>>> of those resources and yet still have many other ones to work with.  It 
>>> just becomes a different problem to solve.  Perhaps more complex, from 
>>> aet?s see if we can transplant Earthlings there? standpoint, but 
>>> there is nothing a priori that says it couldnt be done.
>>
>>Be done is not the same thing as ROI.
>>
> 
> Religious persecution is not the same thing as ROI.  Care to choose
> one?

Are you so single minded you can not see the existance of both?

>>>> >> something usefull to build the domed and pressurized buildings 
>>>> >> required to survive and do anything.
>>>> > 
>>>> > If thats how you think about what is *required* to survive, you clearly 
>>>> > havent thought much about the problem.  These are *your* straw men.
>>>> 
>>>> So you think you can survive on the Moon or Mars without a presurized
>>>> building? Are you going to live in a pressure suit 24/7?
>>> 
>>> Maybe.  The point is to solve the problems that *actually* exist, not 
>>> dream up straw men like the need? to builddomed cities.
>>
>>The need to build pressurized work and living areas does exist.
>>
> 
> And is easy.

And expensive and absolutely needed to survive more than 3 minutes, unlike
anywhere in the Americas.

>>>> It is my opinion that an off Earth true colony would cost far too much
>>>> for anyone to ever try it and few people would be willing to permanently
>>>> move to one.
>>> 
>>> ?Ever? is a mighty long time.  The only real question is *how much* would 
>>> it cost at any particular time, and how might those costs be reduced 
>>> until it *does* become something that some impossibly stupid billionaire 
>>> is willing to try it in order to stake a claim on an entire new world.
>>
>>And do what with it?
>>
>>Spain conquered a big part of the New World for the easily gotten wealth.
>>
>>There is nothing off the Earth valuable enough to turn a profit after
>>acquistion and shipping costs.
>>
> 
> Your intellectual myopia is not 'proof'.

Name something then.
 
Your historical ignorance, single minded fixations, and lack of understanding
of human motivations are astounding.
 

-- 
Jim Pennino

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#58137

FromFred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com>
Date2016-04-09 20:20 -0700
Message-ID<b5hjgb1rj73e0u74ei761gkfob0o2cfgjm@4ax.com>
In reply to#58125
jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:

>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> 
>>>In sci.physics Doc O'Leary <droleary@2015usenet1.subsume.com> wrote:
>>>> For your reference, records indicate that 
>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I use economic thinking.
>>>> 
>>>> Think about thinking more rationally.  Think about thinking about 
>>>> not finance and banking, but survival.
>>>
>>>And it will take a LOT of finance to get to and survive on Mars.
>>>
>> 
>> Musk thinks he can make it work at $500,000 per colonist and include a
>> free trip back to Earth for those who decide it's not their cup of
>> tea.  There are a lot of people who can afford that.  Hell, *I* can
>> afford that.
>
>So can I and the wife.
>

Sure you can.

>
>However if I were to tell her we were going to to live on Mars, the
>best I could expect is a divorce as opposed to being shot.
>

So she doesn't love you after all.  I'm sorry for you.

>>>>> It is well known that there is lots of gold in sea water but it costs
>>>>> far more to extract than the gold is worth.
>>>> 
>>>> What the hell does that have to do with anything?  First you bring up 
>>>> Antartica and then say its irrelevant, and now you do the same with 
>>>> gold.  Nobody on a planet other than Earth is going to give a *shit* 
>>>> about gold.  Unless it relates to survival, everything you?re thinking 
>>>> about is irrelevant.
>>>
>>>Pay attention; it was about the economics of going to other places, i.e.
>>>getting a return on investment, which was a big motivator for the
>>>colonizaton of the Americas.
>>>
>> 
>> Weren't you just raving about "freedom from religious persecution"? So
>> which is it?
>>
>
>Some of both, but mostly ROI for those that put the colonies together.
>
>Ever heard of the London Company, established 1606, with the purpose of
>establishing colonial settlements in North America?
>

Sure, but that's not the sort of ROI what you've been raving about.
You've been raving about the COLONY ROI, not the organizers'

>
>>>>> >> There are no forests, no lakes, no rivers, no life and no air.
>>>>> > 
>>>>> > You seem to have more knowledge than NASA on those things.  How is that?
>>>>> 
>>>>> When did NASA announce there are forests, lakes, rivers, life, and
>>>>> air anywhere else than Earth?
>>>> 
>>>> You again demonstrate a lack of logical thinking.  You set out to prove 
>>>> a negative; thats *your* burden, not mine.
>>>
>>>Nope, it is your delusiong there are forests, lakes, rivers, life, and air
>>>anywhere other than Earth.
>>>
>> 
>> <yawn>
>> 
>>>> But, of course, it is entirely irrelevant.  A moon/planet can be devoid 
>>>> of those resources and yet still have many other ones to work with.  It 
>>>> just becomes a different problem to solve.  Perhaps more complex, from 
>>>> aet?s see if we can transplant Earthlings there? standpoint, but 
>>>> there is nothing a priori that says it couldnt be done.
>>>
>>>Be done is not the same thing as ROI.
>>>
>> 
>> Religious persecution is not the same thing as ROI.  Care to choose
>> one?
>
>Are you so single minded you can not see the existance of both?
>

Are you so single minded that you don't know what ROI means even when
you rave about it?

>>>>> >> something usefull to build the domed and pressurized buildings 
>>>>> >> required to survive and do anything.
>>>>> > 
>>>>> > If thats how you think about what is *required* to survive, you clearly 
>>>>> > havent thought much about the problem.  These are *your* straw men.
>>>>> 
>>>>> So you think you can survive on the Moon or Mars without a presurized
>>>>> building? Are you going to live in a pressure suit 24/7?
>>>> 
>>>> Maybe.  The point is to solve the problems that *actually* exist, not 
>>>> dream up straw men like the need? to builddomed cities.
>>>
>>>The need to build pressurized work and living areas does exist.
>>>
>> 
>> And is easy.
>
>And expensive and absolutely needed to survive more than 3 minutes, unlike
>anywhere in the Americas.
>

So what?  There's also no Starbuck's.  Holy fuck, how will we ever
survive?

>>>>> It is my opinion that an off Earth true colony would cost far too much
>>>>> for anyone to ever try it and few people would be willing to permanently
>>>>> move to one.
>>>> 
>>>> ?Ever? is a mighty long time.  The only real question is *how much* would 
>>>> it cost at any particular time, and how might those costs be reduced 
>>>> until it *does* become something that some impossibly stupid billionaire 
>>>> is willing to try it in order to stake a claim on an entire new world.
>>>
>>>And do what with it?
>>>
>>>Spain conquered a big part of the New World for the easily gotten wealth.
>>>
>>>There is nothing off the Earth valuable enough to turn a profit after
>>>acquistion and shipping costs.
>>>
>> 
>> Your intellectual myopia is not 'proof'.
>>
>
>Name something then.
>

Asked and answered.
 
>
>Your historical ignorance, single minded fixations, and lack of understanding
>of human motivations are astounding.
> 

You thinking your insults and raw assertions mean anything with regard
to actual facts is, well, stupid.


-- 
"Ordinarily he is insane. But he has lucid moments when he is
 only stupid."
                            -- Heinrich Heine 

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#58159

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2016-04-10 17:07 +0000
Message-ID<brdqtc-6hn.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#58137
In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> 
>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>> 
>>>>In sci.physics Doc O'Leary <droleary@2015usenet1.subsume.com> wrote:
>>>>> For your reference, records indicate that 
>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I use economic thinking.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Think about thinking more rationally.  Think about thinking about 
>>>>> not finance and banking, but survival.
>>>>
>>>>And it will take a LOT of finance to get to and survive on Mars.
>>>>
>>> 
>>> Musk thinks he can make it work at $500,000 per colonist and include a
>>> free trip back to Earth for those who decide it's not their cup of
>>> tea.  There are a lot of people who can afford that.  Hell, *I* can
>>> afford that.
>>
>>So can I and the wife.
>>
> 
> Sure you can.

Not a problem. I would have to forgo getting a new airplane, but you
can't fly airplanes on Mars.

>>However if I were to tell her we were going to to live on Mars, the
>>best I could expect is a divorce as opposed to being shot.
>>
> 
> So she doesn't love you after all.  I'm sorry for you.

Nope, she just isn't insane.

>>>>>> It is well known that there is lots of gold in sea water but it costs
>>>>>> far more to extract than the gold is worth.
>>>>> 
>>>>> What the hell does that have to do with anything?  First you bring up 
>>>>> Antartica and then say its irrelevant, and now you do the same with 
>>>>> gold.  Nobody on a planet other than Earth is going to give a *shit* 
>>>>> about gold.  Unless it relates to survival, everything you?re thinking 
>>>>> about is irrelevant.
>>>>
>>>>Pay attention; it was about the economics of going to other places, i.e.
>>>>getting a return on investment, which was a big motivator for the
>>>>colonizaton of the Americas.
>>>>
>>> 
>>> Weren't you just raving about "freedom from religious persecution"? So
>>> which is it?
>>>
>>
>>Some of both, but mostly ROI for those that put the colonies together.
>>
>>Ever heard of the London Company, established 1606, with the purpose of
>>establishing colonial settlements in North America?
>>
> 
> Sure, but that's not the sort of ROI what you've been raving about.
> You've been raving about the COLONY ROI, not the organizers'

Most colonies started as part of an organization to make profit.

While the Spanish were mostly plundering the English were into furs,
timber, and various crops.

It wasn't until the profitablity of tobacco was realized the Spanish
were much into real colonies.


>>>>>> >> There are no forests, no lakes, no rivers, no life and no air.
>>>>>> > 
>>>>>> > You seem to have more knowledge than NASA on those things.  How is that?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> When did NASA announce there are forests, lakes, rivers, life, and
>>>>>> air anywhere else than Earth?
>>>>> 
>>>>> You again demonstrate a lack of logical thinking.  You set out to prove 
>>>>> a negative; thats *your* burden, not mine.
>>>>
>>>>Nope, it is your delusiong there are forests, lakes, rivers, life, and air
>>>>anywhere other than Earth.
>>>>
>>> 
>>> <yawn>
>>> 
>>>>> But, of course, it is entirely irrelevant.  A moon/planet can be devoid 
>>>>> of those resources and yet still have many other ones to work with.  It 
>>>>> just becomes a different problem to solve.  Perhaps more complex, from 
>>>>> aet?s see if we can transplant Earthlings there? standpoint, but 
>>>>> there is nothing a priori that says it couldnt be done.
>>>>
>>>>Be done is not the same thing as ROI.
>>>>
>>> 
>>> Religious persecution is not the same thing as ROI.  Care to choose
>>> one?
>>
>>Are you so single minded you can not see the existance of both?
>>
> 
> Are you so single minded that you don't know what ROI means even when
> you rave about it?

Are you so single minded that you don't know that human motivation 
comes in several forms?

> 
>>>>>> >> something usefull to build the domed and pressurized buildings 
>>>>>> >> required to survive and do anything.
>>>>>> > 
>>>>>> > If thats how you think about what is *required* to survive, you clearly 
>>>>>> > havent thought much about the problem.  These are *your* straw men.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> So you think you can survive on the Moon or Mars without a presurized
>>>>>> building? Are you going to live in a pressure suit 24/7?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Maybe.  The point is to solve the problems that *actually* exist, not 
>>>>> dream up straw men like the need? to builddomed cities.
>>>>
>>>>The need to build pressurized work and living areas does exist.
>>>>
>>> 
>>> And is easy.
>>
>>And expensive and absolutely needed to survive more than 3 minutes, unlike
>>anywhere in the Americas.
>>
> 
> So what?  There's also no Starbuck's.  Holy fuck, how will we ever
> survive?

Likely you couldn't survive without Starbuck's.

>>>>>> It is my opinion that an off Earth true colony would cost far too much
>>>>>> for anyone to ever try it and few people would be willing to permanently
>>>>>> move to one.
>>>>> 
>>>>> ?Ever? is a mighty long time.  The only real question is *how much* would 
>>>>> it cost at any particular time, and how might those costs be reduced 
>>>>> until it *does* become something that some impossibly stupid billionaire 
>>>>> is willing to try it in order to stake a claim on an entire new world.
>>>>
>>>>And do what with it?
>>>>
>>>>Spain conquered a big part of the New World for the easily gotten wealth.
>>>>
>>>>There is nothing off the Earth valuable enough to turn a profit after
>>>>acquistion and shipping costs.
>>>>
>>> 
>>> Your intellectual myopia is not 'proof'.
>>>
>>
>>Name something then.
>>
> 
> Asked and answered.

Nope, always arm waved and avoided with phrases like it should be obvious.

So state the obious.



-- 
Jim Pennino

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