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  Moon was produced by head-on collision? Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> - 2016-01-30 19:55 -0500
    Re: Moon was produced by head-on collision? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-01-30 22:17 -0600
    Re: Moon was produced by head-on collision? dlzc <dlzc1@cox.net> - 2016-01-31 07:25 -0800
    Re: Moon was produced by head-on collision? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-01-31 09:44 -0800
      Re: Moon was produced by head-on collision? dlzc <dlzc1@cox.net> - 2016-01-31 17:02 -0800
      Re: Moon was produced by head-on collision? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-01-31 23:10 -0800
        Re: Moon was produced by head-on collision? Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> - 2016-02-01 03:13 -0500
          Re: Moon was produced by head-on collision? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-02-01 10:36 -0800
    Re: Moon was produced by head-on collision? willner@cfa.harvard.edu (Steve Willner) - 2016-02-01 22:27 +0000
      Re: Moon was produced by head-on collision? Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> - 2016-02-01 19:44 -0500
        Re: Moon was produced by head-on collision? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-02-01 23:12 -0800
          Re: Moon was produced by head-on collision? dlzc <dlzc1@cox.net> - 2016-02-02 05:57 -0800
          Re: Moon was produced by head-on collision? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-02-02 15:59 -0800
            Re: Moon was produced by head-on collision? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-02-02 22:14 -0800
              Re: Moon was produced by head-on collision? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-02-03 14:23 -0800
            Re: Moon was produced by head-on collision? Martin Brown <|||newspam|||@nezumi.demon.co.uk> - 2016-02-04 11:40 +0000
              Re: Moon was produced by head-on collision? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-02-04 11:35 -0800
                Re: Moon was produced by head-on collision? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-02-05 03:18 +0000
                  Re: Moon was produced by head-on collision? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-02-04 20:42 -0800
                    Re: Moon was produced by head-on collision? Martin Brown <|||newspam|||@nezumi.demon.co.uk> - 2016-02-05 08:46 +0000
                    Re: Moon was produced by head-on collision? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-02-05 15:26 +0000
                      Re: Moon was produced by head-on collision? R Kym Horsell <kym@kymhorsell.com> - 2016-02-05 15:39 +0000
                        Re: Moon was produced by head-on collision? dlzc <dlzc1@cox.net> - 2016-02-05 12:55 -0800
                        Re: Moon was produced by head-on collision? willner@cfa.harvard.edu (Steve Willner) - 2016-02-05 21:48 +0000
                          Re: Moon was produced by head-on collision? R Kym Horsell <kym@kymhorsell.com> - 2016-02-05 22:31 +0000
                          Re: Moon was produced by head-on collision? Martin Brown <|||newspam|||@nezumi.demon.co.uk> - 2016-02-05 22:50 +0000
                            Re: Moon was produced by head-on collision? willner@cfa.harvard.edu (Steve Willner) - 2016-02-11 19:44 +0000
                          Re: Moon was produced by head-on collision? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-02-06 12:41 -0600
                    Re: Moon was produced by head-on collision? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-02-06 01:20 -0800
                      Re: Moon was produced by head-on collision? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-02-06 18:37 +0000
                        Re: Moon was produced by head-on collision? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-02-06 12:53 -0800
                          Re: Moon was produced by head-on collision? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-02-07 01:28 +0000
                            Re: Moon was produced by head-on collision? dlzc <dlzc1@cox.net> - 2016-02-07 07:06 -0800
                              Re: Moon was produced by head-on collision? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-02-08 02:58 +0000
                                Re: Moon was produced by head-on collision? dlzc <dlzc1@cox.net> - 2016-02-08 06:35 -0800
                            Re: Moon was produced by head-on collision? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-02-07 13:54 -0800
                              Re: Moon was produced by head-on collision? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-02-07 15:11 -0800
                                Re: Moon was produced by head-on collision? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-02-07 16:16 -0800
                                  Re: Moon was produced by head-on collision? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-02-08 21:36 -0800
                                    Re: Moon was produced by head-on collision? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-02-09 11:37 -0800
              Re: Moon was produced by head-on collision? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-02-04 12:39 -0800
        Re: Moon was produced by head-on collision? willner@cfa.harvard.edu (Steve Willner) - 2016-02-03 22:16 +0000
          Re: Moon was produced by head-on collision? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-02-03 22:22 -0800
            Re: Moon was produced by head-on collision? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-02-03 22:38 -0800
              Re: Moon was produced by head-on collision? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-02-04 11:46 -0800
                Re: Moon was produced by head-on collision? the_shadow <the_shadow@xcoxx.net> - 2016-02-06 07:30 +0000
            Re: Moon was produced by head-on collision? dlzc <dlzc1@cox.net> - 2016-02-04 07:52 -0800

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#57686

The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> writes:

>Michael Moroney wrote:
>> 
>> The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> writes:
>> 
>> >Where would the water come from without our moon?
>> 
>> Rain clouds?


>The moon is what makes it rain.

>The clouds are created by the moon.

>No moon, no rain clouds.

Just when I thought I've heard the absolutely dumbest, kookiest "science" 
claim possible, along comes someone with an even dumber, kookier one.

>Right?

Completely wrong, of course.

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#57687

In sci.physics Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> wrote:
> The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> writes:
>>Michael Moroney wrote:
>>> The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> writes:
>>> >Where would the water come from without our moon?
>>> Rain clouds?
>>The moon is what makes it rain.
>>The clouds are created by the moon.
>>No moon, no rain clouds.
> Just when I thought I've heard the absolutely dumbest, kookiest "science" 
> claim possible, along comes someone with an even dumber, kookier one.
>>Right?
> Completely wrong, of course.


There is one teeny tiny thing. Comparing times of new moon
versus full moon shows a statistically relevant difference of
in preciptation of a few percent.

There is a recent paper doing the rounds of the Chinese echo chamber network
that does a closer analysis of this .

--
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<https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CZLWFf_UYAEdYfi.png>
-- Zeke Hausfather, 20 Jan 2016, San Francisco, CA

[A slightly modified version -- apparently the upper edge 
of the error band only -- was shown in some newspapers:
<http://dailycaller.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/Screen-Shot-2015-12-08-at-
2.37.04-PM.png>].

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#57689

Dear R Kym Horsell:

On Friday, February 5, 2016 at 8:44:27 AM UTC-7, R Kym Horsell wrote:
...
> There is one teeny tiny thing. Comparing times
> of new moon versus full moon shows a statistically
> relevant difference of in preciptation of a few
> percent.

I think there is a stronger correlation to "weekends".  So either clouds have calendars (and not lunar ones), or *we* affect the weather.  And more than a few percent.

David A. Smith

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#57691

In article <n92fmr$h9b$1@odin.sdf-eu.org>,
 R Kym Horsell <kym@kymhorsell.com> writes:
>  Comparing times of new moon
> versus full moon shows a statistically relevant difference of
> in preciptation of a few percent.

Can you cite a source?  I confess to some skepticism, but if the
effect is real, my first thought would be biology rather than
physics.

-- 
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#57692

In sci.physics Steve Willner <willner@cfa.harvard.edu> wrote:
> In article <n92fmr$h9b$1@odin.sdf-eu.org>,
> R Kym Horsell <kym@kymhorsell.com> writes:
>>  Comparing times of new moon
>> versus full moon shows a statistically relevant difference of
>> in preciptation of a few percent.
> Can you cite a source?  I confess to some skepticism, but if the
> effect is real, my first thought would be biology rather than
> physics.


google "moon and precipitation"
52 mn hits

Phase of the moon affects amount of rainfall - Phys.org
phys.org # Astronomy & Space # Space Exploration
7 days ago - Satellite data over the tropics, between 10 degrees S and 10 degrees N, shows a slight dip in rainfall when the moon is directly overhead or ...
Folklore Confirmed: The Moon's Phase Affects Rainfall ...
www.sciencemag.org/.../folklore-confirmed-moons-phase-affects-rainfall
Oct 6, 2010 - Researchers find link between lunar cycles and precipitation.
In the news
Image for the news result
Moon can affect rainfall, scientists discover | Science | News
The Independent# - 2 days ago
The Moon can affect how heavy the rain is, according to a new study that could help improve ...
Moon Affects Rainfall, Says Study Based on NASA and Japanese Aerospace Data
Nature World News# - 2 days ago
Moon overhead makes rainfall lighter, scientists conclude
Telegraph.co.uk# - 2 days ago
More news for moon and precipitation
Moon's tidal forces affect amount of rainfall on Earth | UW ...
www.washington.edu/.../phases-of-the-moon-affect-amount-of-rainfall/
Jan 29, 2016 - "As far as I know, this is the first study to convincingly connect the tidal force of the moon with rainfall," said corresponding author Tsubasa ...

--
Europe wasn't a very hospitable place fifteen millennia ago. The
westernmost landmass of the Eurasian continent had endured a long ice
age, with glaciers stretching across northern Europe and into the
region we now call Germany. But suddenly, about 14,500 years ago,
things started to warm up quickly. The glaciers melted so fast around
the globe that they caused sea levels to rise 52 feet in just 500
years. Meanwhile, the environment was in chaos, with wildlife trying
vainly to adjust to the rapid fluctuations in temperature. Humans
weren't immune to the changes, either.
-- <http://arstechnica.com/science/2016/02/there-was-a-massive-
population-crash-in-europe-over-14500-years-ago/>

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#57693

On 05/02/2016 21:48, Steve Willner wrote:
> In article <n92fmr$h9b$1@odin.sdf-eu.org>,
>   R Kym Horsell <kym@kymhorsell.com> writes:

>>   Comparing times of new moon
>> versus full moon shows a statistically relevant difference of
>> in preciptation of a few percent.
>
> Can you cite a source?  I confess to some skepticism, but if the
> effect is real, my first thought would be biology rather than
> physics.

I am sceptical too but here is one source with references:

http://www-das.uwyo.edu/~geerts/cwx/notes/chap10/moon.html

There is a more recent climate related paper claiming a statistically 
significant temperature to lunar phase correlation in satellite data but 
not rainfall.

http://science.sciencemag.org/content/267/5203/1481.abstract

It isn't totally implausible since the Earth will be very slightly 
closer to the sun at full moon. The effect is tiny ~20mK

-- 
Regards,
Martin Brown

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#57745

In article <n938vn$2sk$1@gioia.aioe.org>,
 Martin Brown <|||newspam|||@nezumi.demon.co.uk> writes:
> I am sceptical too but here is one source with references:
> http://www-das.uwyo.edu/~geerts/cwx/notes/chap10/moon.html

I looked at the notes but not the references.  They refer to single
locations and limited periods of time, which makes me wonder about
statistical significance.  In any case, they can't tell us anything
global.

> There is a more recent climate related paper claiming a statistically 
> significant temperature to lunar phase correlation in satellite data but 
> not rainfall.
> http://science.sciencemag.org/content/267/5203/1481.abstract
> 
> It isn't totally implausible since the Earth will be very slightly 
> closer to the sun at full moon. The effect is tiny ~20mK

I think Martin has nailed the cause, though the authors didn't. While
the authors write "0.02 K" and "0.03 K" in the text -- and why they
give two different values is unclear to me -- their Figure 1 (which I
found in the pdf but not the html version) actually shows 10 mK
difference. That's just the amount I estimate from the difference in
solar distance as a function of lunar phase.  I'm impressed that it
can actually be measured.

Another source quoted
http://www.reportingclimatescience.com/news-stories/article/lunar-gravity-affects-rainfall.html
which is based on the refereed article at
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/2015GL067342/full

This shows the expected semi-diurnal tidal effect on the atmosphere
and correlates it with a tiny rainfall effect.  The original claim
was a monthly effect, which this paper doesn't address and about
which I remain skeptical.

By the way, it's not hard to compare the relative tidal forces on a
raindrop from the Moon and from a nearby frog.  The Moon is roughly
three times denser than a frog, so if the Moon and the frog subtend
the same angular diameter as seen from the raindrop, the Moon's tidal
force will be three times larger.  Move the frog 30% closer, and the
tidal forces will be equal.  (Tidal force goes as r^-1/3.)  Of course
both are utterly negligible for any practical purpose.

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#57705

On 2/5/16 3:48 PM, Steve Willner wrote:
> In article <n92fmr$h9b$1@odin.sdf-eu.org>,
>   R Kym Horsell <kym@kymhorsell.com> writes:
>>   Comparing times of new moon
>> versus full moon shows a statistically relevant difference of
>> in preciptation of a few percent.
>
> Can you cite a source?  I confess to some skepticism, but if the
> effect is real, my first thought would be biology rather than
> physics.
>


Lunar Phase Affects Rainfall
 > 
http://www.reportingclimatescience.com/news-stories/article/lunar-gravity-affects-rainfall.html


 > Abstract
 >
 > Classical tidal theory predicts that the lunar gravitational
 > semidiurnal tide (L2) should induce perturbations in relative
 > humidity (RH). Adiabatic expansion in divergent flow in advance of
 > the L2 pressure minimum cools the air and reduces its saturation
 > vapor pressure, thereby increasing the rate of condensation in
 > saturated air parcels and causing the relative humidity (RH) of
 > unsaturated parcels to rise. Here we detect a statistically
 > significant L2 signature in precipitation rate (P) in a 15 year,
 > eight times daily, global precipitation data set acquired in the
 > Tropical Rainfall Measuring Mission. Consistent with tidal theory and
 > with the notion that L2 modulates P mainly by perturbing RH, P varies
 > out of phase with pressure, and it increases at a rate of about 10%
 > per 1% increase in RH. These measurements thus provide a measure of
 > the sensitivity of P to planetary-scale changes in RH. Analysis of
 > solar semidiurnal (S2) tidal statistics yields similar results.
 >
 > Citation
 >
 > Rainfall variations induced by the lunar gravitational atmospheric
 > tide and their implications for the relationship between tropical
 > rainfall and humidity by Tsubasa Kohyama John (Michael) Wallace
 > published in Geophysical Research Letters, DOI: 10.1002/2015GL067342
 >

 > Their new paper is the first to show that the moon’s gravitational
 > tug also puts a slight damper on the rain.
 >
 > When the moon is overhead, its gravity causes Earth’s atmosphere to
 > bulge toward it, so the pressure or weight of the atmosphere on that
 > side of the planet goes up. Higher pressure increases the temperature
 > of air parcels below. Since warmer air can hold more moisture, the
 > same air parcels are now farther from their moisture capacity.


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#57700

The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> Michael Moroney wrote:
> >
> > The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> writes:
> >
> > >Where would the water come from without our moon?
> >
> > Rain clouds?
> 
> The moon is what makes it rain.
> 
> The clouds are created by the moon.


The way this works is
the moon draws in the moisture from the
trees up, and makes the clouds.

Now that you understand that part..
do you understand how the moon makes the ocean?

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#57704

The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> writes:

>The Starmaker wrote:

>> The moon is what makes it rain.
>> 
>> The clouds are created by the moon.


>The way this works is
>the moon draws in the moisture from the
>trees up, and makes the clouds.

Babbling nonsense.  Read up on the water cycle.  Water drawn up in plants
(by the sun as part of photosynthesis, not the moon) is a minor component
of the water cycle.

>Now that you understand that part..
>do you understand how the moon makes the ocean?

False conclusion based on a false assumption.

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#57707

Michael Moroney wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> writes:
> 
> >The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> >> The moon is what makes it rain.
> >>
> >> The clouds are created by the moon.
> 
> >The way this works is
> >the moon draws in the moisture from the
> >trees up, and makes the clouds.
> 
> Babbling nonsense.  Read up on the water cycle.  Water drawn up in plants
> (by the sun as part of photosynthesis, not the moon) is a minor component
> of the water cycle.

What is "a minor component of the water cycle."? Are you talking about the moon as being 
"a minor component of the water cycle."?

The Moon moves the ocean. Is the ocean "a minor component of the water cycle."????


> 
> >Now that you understand that part..
> >do you understand how the moon makes the ocean?
> 
> False conclusion based on a false assumption.


The Moon not only...'controls' the rain, the ocean...but other

minor components of the water cycle.


Like for example...the rainforest.

Even the little drops of water on a single leaf.

Do you know what the Moon does to a single drop of water on a single leaf???

Do you actually believe that the Moon and affect the whole ocean on earth, but not a drop of water on a leaf?


You don't understand the mechanism of the moon....



do you understand how the moon makes the ocean??

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#57709

The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> writes:

>Michael Moroney wrote:

>> Babbling nonsense.  Read up on the water cycle.  Water drawn up in plants
>> (by the sun as part of photosynthesis, not the moon) is a minor component
>> of the water cycle.

>What is "a minor component of the water cycle."? Are you talking about 
>the moon as being "a minor component of the water cycle."?

Can't you read? I said that plant transpiration of water (caused by the 
sun) is a minor component.  The moon is irrelevant, the words "moon" and
"tide" aren't even used in the Wikipedia article on the water cycle.
The moon isn't mentioned in a long USGS web page explaining the water 
cycle, "tide" is only because they explain the water table and wells by
using the example of digging a hole at the beach which fills with water
from the ocean (and is affected by tides).

>The Moon moves the ocean. Is the ocean "a minor component of the water 
>cycle."????

As a storage reservoir and a source of evaporation, the ocean is major.
The effect of tides on these are minimal, how minimal others are arguing
about in this thread.

>> >Now that you understand that part..
>> >do you understand how the moon makes the ocean?

It doesn't.  It sloshes it around somewhat.

>> False conclusion based on a false assumption.

>Do you know what the Moon does to a single drop of water on a single leaf???

I suppose it could raise a tide in it.  Now I am wondering whether such
a tide could even be measured or whether a poison dart frog hopping
by would raise a larger tide in it.

>Do you actually believe that the Moon and affect the whole ocean on 
>earth, but not a drop of water on a leaf?

Right now I am not bored enough to calculate how many nanometers high a
moon tide in a raindrop would be. Or a frog tide, either.

>You don't understand the mechanism of the moon....
>do you understand how the moon makes the ocean??

Babbling nonsense.

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#57725

Dear Michael Moroney:

On Saturday, February 6, 2016 at 6:28:38 PM UTC-7, Michael Moroney wrote:
...
> Babbling nonsense.

The "jack in the box" keeps popping out, if you keep responding to it in the usual way.

I am sure you know this, but he is artificially ignorant by choice.  You may have boundless optimism that you can fix this condition, but he is consciously referencing biblical text, and picking and choosing which facts and observations support his position.

If you manage to pull the rug entirely out from under him, he will be forced to fall back on literal interpretation of biblical works, since Science cannot save his soul.

Your breath is wasted on his corpus.  So if you enjoy watching the "jack in the box", keep on cranking...

David A. Smith

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#57730

dlzc <dlzc1@cox.net> writes:

>Dear Michael Moroney:

>On Saturday, February 6, 2016 at 6:28:38 PM UTC-7, Michael Moroney wrote:
>...
>> Babbling nonsense.

>The "jack in the box" keeps popping out, if you keep responding to it in 
>the usual way.

>I am sure you know this, but he is artificially ignorant by choice.  You 
>may have boundless optimism that you can fix this condition, but he is 
>consciously referencing biblical text, and picking and choosing which 
>facts and observations support his position.

>If you manage to pull the rug entirely out from under him, he will be 
>forced to fall back on literal interpretation of biblical works, since 
>Science cannot save his soul.

>Your breath is wasted on his corpus.  So if you enjoy watching the "jack 
>in the box", keep on cranking...

As I recently wrote in another thread, I like to argue with kooks.  I find
it entertaining.  I know kooks like this one are incurable.  In this case,
I was also curious what kind of twisted "logic" it had to show how the
moon caused rain.  However, this particular kook isn't particularly
entertaining, so I won't be turning this particular kook-in-the-box's
crank for too much longer.

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#57733

Dear Michael Moroney:

On Sunday, February 7, 2016 at 7:58:45 PM UTC-7, Michael Moroney wrote:
> dlzc <dl***@cox.net> writes:
> As I recently wrote in another thread, I like to
> argue with kooks.  I find it entertaining.  I know
> kooks like this one are incurable.  In this case,
> I was also curious what kind of twisted "logic" it
> had to show how the moon caused rain.  However,
> this particular kook isn't particularly
> entertaining, so I won't be turning this particular
> kook-in-the-box's crank for too much longer.

As long as you are aware, the furrow closes right behind your plow... and the weeds spring up anew.

David A. Smith

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#57726

Michael Moroney wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> writes:
> 
> >Michael Moroney wrote:
> 
> >> Babbling nonsense.  Read up on the water cycle.  Water drawn up in plants
> >> (by the sun as part of photosynthesis, not the moon) is a minor component
> >> of the water cycle.
> 
> >What is "a minor component of the water cycle."? Are you talking about
> >the moon as being "a minor component of the water cycle."?
> 
> Can't you read? I said that plant transpiration of water (caused by the
> sun) is a minor component.  The moon is irrelevant, the words "moon" and
> "tide" aren't even used in the Wikipedia article on the water cycle.
> The moon isn't mentioned in a long USGS web page explaining the water
> cycle, "tide" is only because they explain the water table and wells by
> using the example of digging a hole at the beach which fills with water
> from the ocean (and is affected by tides).

I see, you getting your information from a 'anonymous user-edited website'.


That means you don't know much...
https://www.google.com/#q=moon+tides&tbm=nws


Here’s how it works: The moon’s gravitational pull causes Earth’s atmosphere to bulge toward it, (on both sides of the earth) ..

this 'gravitational pull' by the moon pulls a drop of water from the leaf unto the ground. From the 
ground the drops of water 'pulled by the moon’s gravitational pull' from the leaves, the billions
of leaves...form ruiing water on the ground that turns to rivers...that eventually form and...ocean.


In other words...

the earth's moon makes the ocean.


All from a single drop of water on a leaf.



http://revelwallpapers.net/d/7532364C705A437130394F77714B31687A7047493438444F76714E716B673D3D/water-drops-on-leaf.jpg


Where do you think fishes come from? From leaves that fall from trees.


Do you want me to explain How that works?


Don't expect to find this information on a 'anonymous user-edited website' like Wikipedia.


Why waste your time...read about it here from this first cover issue of Science magazine:
http://pw1.netcom.com/~starmaker/The%20Starmaker%20Science%20Journal/The-Starmaker-Science-Journal-2-abcd.jpg

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#57727

The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> Michael Moroney wrote:
> >
> > The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> writes:
> >
> > >Michael Moroney wrote:
> >
> > >> Babbling nonsense.  Read up on the water cycle.  Water drawn up in plants
> > >> (by the sun as part of photosynthesis, not the moon) is a minor component
> > >> of the water cycle.
> >
> > >What is "a minor component of the water cycle."? Are you talking about
> > >the moon as being "a minor component of the water cycle."?
> >
> > Can't you read? I said that plant transpiration of water (caused by the
> > sun) is a minor component.  The moon is irrelevant, the words "moon" and
> > "tide" aren't even used in the Wikipedia article on the water cycle.
> > The moon isn't mentioned in a long USGS web page explaining the water
> > cycle, "tide" is only because they explain the water table and wells by
> > using the example of digging a hole at the beach which fills with water
> > from the ocean (and is affected by tides).
> 
> I see, you getting your information from a 'anonymous user-edited website'.
> 
> That means you don't know much...
> https://www.google.com/#q=moon+tides&tbm=nws
> 
> Here’s how it works: The moon’s gravitational pull causes Earth’s atmosphere to bulge toward it, (on both sides of the earth) ..
> 
> this 'gravitational pull' by the moon pulls a drop of water from the leaf unto the ground. From the
> ground the drops of water 'pulled by the moon’s gravitational pull' from the leaves, the billions
> of leaves...form ruiing water on the ground that turns to rivers...that eventually form and...ocean.
> 
> In other words...
> 
> the earth's moon makes the ocean.
> 
> All from a single drop of water on a leaf.
> 
> http://revelwallpapers.net/d/7532364C705A437130394F77714B31687A7047493438444F76714E716B673D3D/water-drops-on-leaf.jpg
> 
> Where do you think fishes come from? From leaves that fall from trees.
> 
> Do you want me to explain How that works?
> 
> Don't expect to find this information on a 'anonymous user-edited website' like Wikipedia.
> 
> Why waste your time...read about it here from this first cover issue of Science magazine:
> http://pw1.netcom.com/~starmaker/The%20Starmaker%20Science%20Journal/The-Starmaker-Science-Journal-2-abcd.jpg



https://news.google.com/news/story?ncl=dGDQfjNjst89oGMGZUuvCejqvO6-M&q=moon+tides&lr=English&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi-2qy64ebKAhVM5CYKHV3ABI8QqgIIJDAB

of course Science is a few thousand years behind...
they still tryin to figure out how the Moon works.

https://news.google.com/news/story?ncl=dGDQfjNjst89oGMGZUuvCejqvO6-M&q=moon+tides&lr=English&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi-2qy64ebKAhVM5CYKHV3ABI8QqgIIJDAB


wait till they find out the moon makes fishes and people fall from trees:
 http://pw1.netcom.com/~starmaker/The%20Starmaker%20Science%20Journal/The-Starmaker-Science-Journal-2-abcd.jpg


man! yous guys are soooo behind the  times.

yous just don't get it.

I think i was born tooo early.....let me come back a thousand years.

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#57728

The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > Michael Moroney wrote:
> > >
> > > The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> writes:
> > >
> > > >Michael Moroney wrote:
> > >
> > > >> Babbling nonsense.  Read up on the water cycle.  Water drawn up in plants
> > > >> (by the sun as part of photosynthesis, not the moon) is a minor component
> > > >> of the water cycle.
> > >
> > > >What is "a minor component of the water cycle."? Are you talking about
> > > >the moon as being "a minor component of the water cycle."?
> > >
> > > Can't you read? I said that plant transpiration of water (caused by the
> > > sun) is a minor component.  The moon is irrelevant, the words "moon" and
> > > "tide" aren't even used in the Wikipedia article on the water cycle.
> > > The moon isn't mentioned in a long USGS web page explaining the water
> > > cycle, "tide" is only because they explain the water table and wells by
> > > using the example of digging a hole at the beach which fills with water
> > > from the ocean (and is affected by tides).
> >
> > I see, you getting your information from a 'anonymous user-edited website'.
> >
> > That means you don't know much...
> > https://www.google.com/#q=moon+tides&tbm=nws
> >
> > Here’s how it works: The moon’s gravitational pull causes Earth’s atmosphere to bulge toward it, (on both sides of the earth) ..
> >
> > this 'gravitational pull' by the moon pulls a drop of water from the leaf unto the ground. From the
> > ground the drops of water 'pulled by the moon’s gravitational pull' from the leaves, the billions
> > of leaves...form ruiing water on the ground that turns to rivers...that eventually form and...ocean.
> >
> > In other words...
> >
> > the earth's moon makes the ocean.
> >
> > All from a single drop of water on a leaf.
> >
> > http://revelwallpapers.net/d/7532364C705A437130394F77714B31687A7047493438444F76714E716B673D3D/water-drops-on-leaf.jpg
> >
> > Where do you think fishes come from? From leaves that fall from trees.
> >
> > Do you want me to explain How that works?
> >
> > Don't expect to find this information on a 'anonymous user-edited website' like Wikipedia.
> >
> > Why waste your time...read about it here from this first cover issue of Science magazine:
> > http://pw1.netcom.com/~starmaker/The%20Starmaker%20Science%20Journal/The-Starmaker-Science-Journal-2-abcd.jpg
> 
> https://news.google.com/news/story?ncl=dGDQfjNjst89oGMGZUuvCejqvO6-M&q=moon+tides&lr=English&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi-2qy64ebKAhVM5CYKHV3ABI8QqgIIJDAB
> 
> of course Science is a few thousand years behind...
> they still tryin to figure out how the Moon works.
> 
> https://news.google.com/news/story?ncl=dGDQfjNjst89oGMGZUuvCejqvO6-M&q=moon+tides&lr=English&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi-2qy64ebKAhVM5CYKHV3ABI8QqgIIJDAB
> 
> wait till they find out the moon makes fishes and people fall from trees:
>  http://pw1.netcom.com/~starmaker/The%20Starmaker%20Science%20Journal/The-Starmaker-Science-Journal-2-abcd.jpg
> 
> man! yous guys are soooo behind the  times.
> 
> yous just don't get it.
> 
> I think i was born tooo early.....let me come back a thousand years.



what you people 
don't understand...
is that the earth's moon
is instrumental in the 
origin of the ocean
the origin of fishes
the origin of people
the origin of Life on Earth.

Simply by it's gravitational pull on the earth and it's atmosphere.

What came first, the rain or the clouds?

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#57735

The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > Michael Moroney wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> writes:
> > > >
> > > > >Michael Moroney wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >> Babbling nonsense.  Read up on the water cycle.  Water drawn up in plants
> > > > >> (by the sun as part of photosynthesis, not the moon) is a minor component
> > > > >> of the water cycle.
> > > >
> > > > >What is "a minor component of the water cycle."? Are you talking about
> > > > >the moon as being "a minor component of the water cycle."?
> > > >
> > > > Can't you read? I said that plant transpiration of water (caused by the
> > > > sun) is a minor component.  The moon is irrelevant, the words "moon" and
> > > > "tide" aren't even used in the Wikipedia article on the water cycle.
> > > > The moon isn't mentioned in a long USGS web page explaining the water
> > > > cycle, "tide" is only because they explain the water table and wells by
> > > > using the example of digging a hole at the beach which fills with water
> > > > from the ocean (and is affected by tides).
> > >
> > > I see, you getting your information from a 'anonymous user-edited website'.
> > >
> > > That means you don't know much...
> > > https://www.google.com/#q=moon+tides&tbm=nws
> > >
> > > Here’s how it works: The moon’s gravitational pull causes Earth’s atmosphere to bulge toward it, (on both sides of the earth) ..
> > >
> > > this 'gravitational pull' by the moon pulls a drop of water from the leaf unto the ground. From the
> > > ground the drops of water 'pulled by the moon’s gravitational pull' from the leaves, the billions
> > > of leaves...form ruiing water on the ground that turns to rivers...that eventually form and...ocean.
> > >
> > > In other words...
> > >
> > > the earth's moon makes the ocean.
> > >
> > > All from a single drop of water on a leaf.
> > >
> > > http://revelwallpapers.net/d/7532364C705A437130394F77714B31687A7047493438444F76714E716B673D3D/water-drops-on-leaf.jpg
> > >
> > > Where do you think fishes come from? From leaves that fall from trees.
> > >
> > > Do you want me to explain How that works?
> > >
> > > Don't expect to find this information on a 'anonymous user-edited website' like Wikipedia.
> > >
> > > Why waste your time...read about it here from this first cover issue of Science magazine:
> > > http://pw1.netcom.com/~starmaker/The%20Starmaker%20Science%20Journal/The-Starmaker-Science-Journal-2-abcd.jpg
> >
> > https://news.google.com/news/story?ncl=dGDQfjNjst89oGMGZUuvCejqvO6-M&q=moon+tides&lr=English&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi-2qy64ebKAhVM5CYKHV3ABI8QqgIIJDAB
> >
> > of course Science is a few thousand years behind...
> > they still tryin to figure out how the Moon works.
> >
> > https://news.google.com/news/story?ncl=dGDQfjNjst89oGMGZUuvCejqvO6-M&q=moon+tides&lr=English&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi-2qy64ebKAhVM5CYKHV3ABI8QqgIIJDAB
> >
> > wait till they find out the moon makes fishes and people fall from trees:
> >  http://pw1.netcom.com/~starmaker/The%20Starmaker%20Science%20Journal/The-Starmaker-Science-Journal-2-abcd.jpg
> >
> > man! yous guys are soooo behind the  times.
> >
> > yous just don't get it.
> >
> > I think i was born tooo early.....let me come back a thousand years.
> 
> what you people
> don't understand...
> is that the earth's moon
> is instrumental in the
> origin of the ocean
> the origin of fishes
> the origin of people
> the origin of Life on Earth.
> 
> Simply by it's gravitational pull on the earth and it's atmosphere.
> 
> What came first, the rain or the clouds?


Of course the answer is simple...the moon made the clouds and then it made it rain.

How did the moon make clouds? Instead of rainfall, it rainup.

Sorry, I cannot wait for yous people to invent the word "rainup".

Maybe a thousand years from now you'll figure it out....especially yous Wikipedia university students.

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#57738

The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Michael Moroney wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> writes:
> > > > >
> > > > > >Michael Moroney wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >> Babbling nonsense.  Read up on the water cycle.  Water drawn up in plants
> > > > > >> (by the sun as part of photosynthesis, not the moon) is a minor component
> > > > > >> of the water cycle.
> > > > >
> > > > > >What is "a minor component of the water cycle."? Are you talking about
> > > > > >the moon as being "a minor component of the water cycle."?
> > > > >
> > > > > Can't you read? I said that plant transpiration of water (caused by the
> > > > > sun) is a minor component.  The moon is irrelevant, the words "moon" and
> > > > > "tide" aren't even used in the Wikipedia article on the water cycle.
> > > > > The moon isn't mentioned in a long USGS web page explaining the water
> > > > > cycle, "tide" is only because they explain the water table and wells by
> > > > > using the example of digging a hole at the beach which fills with water
> > > > > from the ocean (and is affected by tides).
> > > >
> > > > I see, you getting your information from a 'anonymous user-edited website'.
> > > >
> > > > That means you don't know much...
> > > > https://www.google.com/#q=moon+tides&tbm=nws
> > > >
> > > > Here’s how it works: The moon’s gravitational pull causes Earth’s atmosphere to bulge toward it, (on both sides of the earth) ..
> > > >
> > > > this 'gravitational pull' by the moon pulls a drop of water from the leaf unto the ground. From the
> > > > ground the drops of water 'pulled by the moon’s gravitational pull' from the leaves, the billions
> > > > of leaves...form ruiing water on the ground that turns to rivers...that eventually form and...ocean.
> > > >
> > > > In other words...
> > > >
> > > > the earth's moon makes the ocean.
> > > >
> > > > All from a single drop of water on a leaf.
> > > >
> > > > http://revelwallpapers.net/d/7532364C705A437130394F77714B31687A7047493438444F76714E716B673D3D/water-drops-on-leaf.jpg
> > > >
> > > > Where do you think fishes come from? From leaves that fall from trees.
> > > >
> > > > Do you want me to explain How that works?
> > > >
> > > > Don't expect to find this information on a 'anonymous user-edited website' like Wikipedia.
> > > >
> > > > Why waste your time...read about it here from this first cover issue of Science magazine:
> > > > http://pw1.netcom.com/~starmaker/The%20Starmaker%20Science%20Journal/The-Starmaker-Science-Journal-2-abcd.jpg
> > >
> > > https://news.google.com/news/story?ncl=dGDQfjNjst89oGMGZUuvCejqvO6-M&q=moon+tides&lr=English&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi-2qy64ebKAhVM5CYKHV3ABI8QqgIIJDAB
> > >
> > > of course Science is a few thousand years behind...
> > > they still tryin to figure out how the Moon works.
> > >
> > > https://news.google.com/news/story?ncl=dGDQfjNjst89oGMGZUuvCejqvO6-M&q=moon+tides&lr=English&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi-2qy64ebKAhVM5CYKHV3ABI8QqgIIJDAB
> > >
> > > wait till they find out the moon makes fishes and people fall from trees:
> > >  http://pw1.netcom.com/~starmaker/The%20Starmaker%20Science%20Journal/The-Starmaker-Science-Journal-2-abcd.jpg
> > >
> > > man! yous guys are soooo behind the  times.
> > >
> > > yous just don't get it.
> > >
> > > I think i was born tooo early.....let me come back a thousand years.
> >
> > what you people
> > don't understand...
> > is that the earth's moon
> > is instrumental in the
> > origin of the ocean
> > the origin of fishes
> > the origin of people
> > the origin of Life on Earth.
> >
> > Simply by it's gravitational pull on the earth and it's atmosphere.
> >
> > What came first, the rain or the clouds?
> 
> Of course the answer is simple...the moon made the clouds and then it made it rain.
> 
> How did the moon make clouds? Instead of rainfall, it rainup.
> 
> Sorry, I cannot wait for yous people to invent the word "rainup".
> 
> Maybe a thousand years from now you'll figure it out....especially yous Wikipedia university students.


Now, as you see on the cover of the first issue of the Science Journal is shows a photograph of a leafinsect.

http://pw1.netcom.com/~starmaker/The%20Starmaker%20Science%20Journal/The-Starmaker-Science-Journal-2-abcd.jpg


You're problably wondering, how did the leaf that fell from a tree turn into an insect????

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