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  Re: it is not the inodes Anonymous <poster@anon.com> - 2020-12-30 11:01 -0800
    Re: it is not the inodes Marc SCHAEFER <schaefer@alphanet.ch> - 2020-12-31 11:09 +0100
      Re: it is not the inodes Retro Guy <retro_guy@retrobbs.rocksolidbbs.com> - 2020-12-31 16:20 -0700
        Re: it is not the inodes Marc SCHAEFER <schaefer@alphanet.ch> - 2021-01-01 11:47 +0100

#209 — Re: it is not the inodes

>>46a6174108e985a88f
>INN2 is running stable for the last 20 years or so.
>Administrating a UNIX server is sometimes complex.

Yeah well, I didn't mean to diss inn2. The most likely chain of causality here is:

complex config of inn2 --> bad setup on my end --> unstable news server

It is the program and the admin together that produce a stable (or in my case unstable) result.

Using rslight just might be more fitting for my skills. :-)

-- 
Posted on def2

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Anonymous <poster@anon.com> wrote:
> Using rslight just might be more fitting for my skills. :-)

It wouldn't for me, because it's not even present in the Debian packages
as far as I can see.

Installing software which is not in my standard distribution involves
even more work, and there is no guarantee of some support nor that it is
correctly integrated with the monitoring and automatic administration
that I like :)

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On Thu, 31 Dec 2020 11:09:30 +0100 (CET)
Marc SCHAEFER <schaefer@alphanet.ch> wrote:

> Anonymous <poster@anon.com> wrote:
> > Using rslight just might be more fitting for my skills. :-)
> 
> It wouldn't for me, because it's not even present in the Debian
> packages as far as I can see.

rslight is my web based forum software https://www.novabbs.com, which
contains a somewhat complete nnrp server. I wrote this news server as
the backend for the forum so that it works quickly in slow networks
(i2p, tor). Many of my posts here are using a newsreader connected to
rslight (as is this post).

> 
> Installing software which is not in my standard distribution involves
> even more work, and there is no guarantee of some support nor that it
> is correctly integrated with the monitoring and automatic
> administration that I like :)

I fully agree, I always prefer to install software from the repo as in
the past I learned (as many probably have) that installing independent
software can make a mess of the system.

The op probably feels a bit more comfortable since they have installed
rslight in the past, connect to one of my rslight servers currently, and
the developer is right here to answer questions.

Retro Guy

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#217

Retro Guy <retro_guy@retrobbs.rocksolidbbs.com> wrote:
> the past I learned (as many probably have) that installing independent
> software can make a mess of the system.

You can, but I put them in /usr/local/APPLICATION-version and then
symlink the current version directory to /usr/local/APPLICATION and
write wrapper scripts in /usr/local/bin calling the application with all
the correct variables defined.

If required (e.g. make so that `firefox' is actually
/usr/local/FIREFOX/firefox or something), you may want to use
dpkg-divert (on a Debian-based distribution).

E.g.

   # move the distribution-upgradeable file out of the way
   # (by default the distribution will then only upgrade
   # /usr/bin/firefox.distrib)
   dpkg-divert --rename /usr/bin/firefox

   ln -s /usr/local/bin/firefox-wrapper /usr/bin/firefox

This works very well.

Also, you can today use sandboxed packaging or container to isolate
badly behaving software.

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