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   in the Sherlock Holmes stories, some stuff happens that isn't skinnier. (skinny?) HenHanna@NewsGrouper <user4055@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-05-23 09:10 +0000
    Re: in the Sherlock Holmes stories, some stuff happens that isn't skinnier. (skinny?) David Entwistle <qnivq.ragjvfgyr@ogvagrearg.pbz> - 2026-05-23 18:02 +0000
      Re: in the Sherlock Holmes stories, some stuff happens that isn't skinnier. (skinny?) David Entwistle <qnivq.ragjvfgyr@ogvagrearg.pbz> - 2026-05-23 18:03 +0000
      Re: in the Sherlock Holmes stories, some stuff happens that isn't skinnier. (skinny?) David Entwistle <qnivq.ragjvfgyr@ogvagrearg.pbz> - 2026-05-23 18:25 +0000
      Re: in the Sherlock Holmes stories, some stuff happens that isn't skinnier. (skinny?) HenHanna@NewsGrouper <user4055@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-05-24 00:27 +0000
      Re: in the Sherlock Holmes stories, some stuff happens that isn't skinnier. (skinny?) Phil Carmody <pc+usenet@asdf.org> - 2026-06-05 11:31 +0300
        Re: in the Sherlock Holmes stories, some stuff happens that isn't skinnier. (skinny?) David Entwistle <qnivq.ragjvfgyr@ogvagrearg.pbz> - 2026-06-05 18:16 +0000
      Re: in the Sherlock Holmes stories, some stuff happens that isn't skinnier. (skinny?) Phil Carmody <pc+usenet@asdf.org> - 2026-06-05 11:36 +0300
        Re: in the Sherlock Holmes stories, some stuff happens that isn't skinnier. (skinny?) David Entwistle <qnivq.ragjvfgyr@ogvagrearg.pbz> - 2026-06-05 09:04 +0000
    Re: in the Sherlock Holmes stories, some stuff happens that isn't skinnier. (skinny?) Mike Terry <news.dead.person.stones@darjeeling.plus.com> - 2026-05-23 21:24 +0100
      Re: in the Sherlock Holmes stories, some stuff happens that isn't skinnier. (skinny?) HenHanna@NewsGrouper <user4055@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-05-24 20:01 +0000
    Re: in the Sherlock Holmes stories, some stuff happens that isn't skinnier. (skinny?) Mike Terry <news.dead.person.stones@darjeeling.plus.com> - 2026-05-23 21:04 +0100
    Re: in the Sherlock Holmes stories, some stuff happens that isn't skinnier. (skinny?) Mike Terry <news.dead.person.stones@darjeeling.plus.com> - 2026-05-23 21:12 +0100

#27831 — in the Sherlock Holmes stories, some stuff happens that isn't skinnier. (skinny?)

(I like this one!)   Becoming Doyle - The Evolution of Sir Arthur Conan Doyle #arthurconandoyle #sherlockholmes - YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/8BARPMHW1-M



Philomena Cunk on Sir Arthur Conan Doyle #cunk #history #funny #funnyshorts #philosophicalthinking - YouTube

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/5lO4dNvvOic

       ----------  She even got ACD's  name  wrong!  (Maybe on purpose?)


        (Is she saying   "skinny"    at the end?)   (not Skidding) ?


            Is this a real person or AI ?



    >>>  In that clip from Cunk on Earth, actress Diane Morgan (playing her brilliant, clueless character Philomena Cunk) is actually using the British slang adjective "skinnier" (referring to the plot or substance), but the auto-generated captions misheard her thick Northern accent and transcribed it as the nonsense phrase "skidding" 


The Accent: Diane Morgan speaks with a heavy Bolton (Greater Manchester) accent. Northern English accents tend to clip vowels and soften "n" sounds, which frequently breaks basic AI subtitle bots.

-------------actually using the British slang adjective "skinnier" (referring to the plot or substance), but the auto-generated captions misheard her thick Northern accent and transcribed it as the nonsense phrase "skidding" (0:17).The Real Quote Explained

What Philomena Cunk actually says at the end of that sentence is:  --------  "Although in the Sherlock Holmes stories, some stuff happens that isn't skinnier." (0:17)

When she says "isn't skinnier" here, she is intentionally twisting British slang. She is mocking the Fast and the Furious movie franchise by saying that unlike those thin, mindless action movies, the Sherlock Holmes sequels actually have deeper, meatier plots that aren't "skinny" on details (0:09).

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#27832

On Sat, 23 May 2026 09:10:10 GMT, HenHanna@NewsGrouper wrote:

>         (Is she saying   "skinny"    at the end?)   (not Skidding) ?
> 
> 
>             Is this a real person or AI ?

AI, not a real person.

> 
>     >>>  In that clip from Cunk on Earth, actress Diane Morgan (playing
>     >>>  her brilliant, clueless character Philomena Cunk) is actually
>     >>>  using the British slang adjective "skinnier" (referring to the
>     >>>  plot or substance), but the auto-generated captions misheard
>     >>>  her thick Northern accent and transcribed it as the nonsense
>     >>>  phrase "skidding"

No one from Bolton is saying anything in that video. I grew up in Bolton 
and would know. I was born there in 1959. We say buzz, instead of bus. And 
cayke, instead of cake. It is a fairly distinctive accent, certainly when 
you lived their during your formative years.

> The Accent: Diane Morgan speaks with a heavy Bolton (Greater Manchester)
> accent. Northern English accents tend to clip vowels and soften "n"
> sounds, which frequently breaks basic AI subtitle bots.

I'd say no real person, certainly no one from Bolton, is speaking in that 
video.

> -------------actually using the British slang adjective "skinnier"
> (referring to the plot or substance), but the auto-generated captions
> misheard her thick Northern accent and transcribed it as the nonsense
> phrase "skidding" (0:17).The Real Quote Explained

AI misheard AI. I wouldn't worry about it. It is neither here, nor there.

> What Philomena Cunk actually says at the end of that sentence is: 
> --------  "Although in the Sherlock Holmes stories, some stuff happens
> that isn't skinnier." (0:17)

No one real said anything of any importance. I wouldn't worry about the 
details.

> When she says "isn't skinnier" here, she is intentionally twisting
> British slang. She is mocking the Fast and the Furious movie franchise
> by saying that unlike those thin, mindless action movies, the Sherlock
> Holmes sequels actually have deeper, meatier plots that aren't "skinny"
> on details (0:09).

I doubt it. I don't think any human said anything.

-- 
David Entwistle

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#27833

On Sat, 23 May 2026 18:02:52 -0000 (UTC), David Entwistle wrote:

> you lived their during your formative years.

there...



-- 
David Entwistle

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#27834

On Sat, 23 May 2026 18:02:52 -0000 (UTC), David Entwistle wrote:

> No one from Bolton is saying anything in that video. If you want to hear 
the accent:

Sara Cox is from Little Lever, near Bolton.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sara_Cox

Vernon Kay is from Horwich, near Bolton,

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vernon_Kay

Peter Kay is from Farnworth near Bolton.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Kay

Their accents have distinct traits, but would be reconizable as from the 
greater Bolton area.

-- 
David Entwistle

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#27835

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diane_Morgan
i think is from Manchester... 
          (but maybe it's a fake accent) -- Ok it seems a real Bolton accent.

               and  the word spoken was Skidding.


David Entwistle <qnivq.ragjvfgyr@ogvagrearg.pbz> posted:

> On Sat, 23 May 2026 09:10:10 GMT, HenHanna@NewsGrouper wrote:
> 
> >         (Is she saying   "skinny"    at the end?)   (not Skidding) ?
> > 
> > 
> >             Is this a real person or AI ?
> 
> AI, not a real person.
> 
> > 
> >     >>>  In that clip from Cunk on Earth, actress Diane Morgan (playing
> >     >>>  her brilliant, clueless character Philomena Cunk) is actually
> >     >>>  using the British slang adjective "skinnier" (referring to the
> >     >>>  plot or substance), but the auto-generated captions misheard
> >     >>>  her thick Northern accent and transcribed it as the nonsense
> >     >>>  phrase "skidding"
> 
> No one from Bolton is saying anything in that video. I grew up in Bolton 
> and would know. I was born there in 1959. We say buzz, instead of bus. And 
> cayke, instead of cake. It is a fairly distinctive accent, certainly when 
> you lived their during your formative years.
> 
> > The Accent: Diane Morgan speaks with a heavy Bolton (Greater Manchester)
> > accent. Northern English accents tend to clip vowels and soften "n"
> > sounds, which frequently breaks basic AI subtitle bots.
> 
> I'd say no real person, certainly no one from Bolton, is speaking in that 
> video.
> 
> > -------------actually using the British slang adjective "skinnier"
> > (referring to the plot or substance), but the auto-generated captions
> > misheard her thick Northern accent and transcribed it as the nonsense
> > phrase "skidding" (0:17).The Real Quote Explained
> 
> AI misheard AI. I wouldn't worry about it. It is neither here, nor there.
> 
> > What Philomena Cunk actually says at the end of that sentence is: 
> > --------  "Although in the Sherlock Holmes stories, some stuff happens
> > that isn't skinnier." (0:17)
> 
> No one real said anything of any importance. I wouldn't worry about the 
> details.
> 
> > When she says "isn't skinnier" here, she is intentionally twisting
> > British slang. She is mocking the Fast and the Furious movie franchise
> > by saying that unlike those thin, mindless action movies, the Sherlock
> > Holmes sequels actually have deeper, meatier plots that aren't "skinny"
> > on details (0:09).
> 
> I doubt it. I don't think any human said anything.
> 

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#27906

David Entwistle <qnivq.ragjvfgyr@ogvagrearg.pbz> writes:
> On Sat, 23 May 2026 09:10:10 GMT, HenHanna@NewsGrouper wrote:
>
>>         (Is she saying   "skinny"    at the end?)   (not Skidding) ?
>> What Philomena Cunk actually says at the end of that sentence is: 
>> --------  "Although in the Sherlock Holmes stories, some stuff happens
>> that isn't skinnier." (0:17)
>
> No one real said anything of any importance. I wouldn't worry about the 
> details.

Philomena Cunk, Diane Morgan in cringe-worthy character perfectly,
clearly says "skidding". Is comedy not important to you - as that's
comedy. She's taking the piss out of the fact that the Fast and Furious
franchise seems to be nothing more than skidding. Is F&F so important to
you that you think it must not be ridiculed?

Phil
-- 
We are no longer hunters and nomads. No longer awed and frightened, as we have
gained some understanding of the world in which we live. As such, we can cast
aside childish remnants from the dawn of our civilization.
-- NotSanguine on SoylentNews, after Eugen Weber in /The Western Tradition/

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#27915

On Fri, 05 Jun 2026 11:31:55 +0300, Phil Carmody wrote:

> Is F&F so important to you that you think it must not be ridiculed?

No.

-- 
David Entwistle

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#27907

David Entwistle <qnivq.ragjvfgyr@ogvagrearg.pbz> writes:
> No one from Bolton is saying anything in that video. I grew up in Bolton 
> and would know.

And Diane Morgan was born in Farnworth, a mere 5km from Bolton the town,
and definitely within Bolton the Metropolitan County, in 1975. Are you
saying she's got her accent wrong? If so, I recommend writing her a
strongly-worded letter, so that she can correct her own accent so that
it conforms to your demands.

Phil
-- 
We are no longer hunters and nomads. No longer awed and frightened, as we have
gained some understanding of the world in which we live. As such, we can cast
aside childish remnants from the dawn of our civilization.
-- NotSanguine on SoylentNews, after Eugen Weber in /The Western Tradition/

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#27908

On Fri, 05 Jun 2026 11:36:29 +0300, Phil Carmody wrote:

> And Diane Morgan was born in Farnworth, a mere 5km from Bolton the town,
> and definitely within Bolton the Metropolitan County, in 1975. Are you
> saying she's got her accent wrong? If so, I recommend writing her a
> strongly-worded letter, so that she can correct her own accent so that
> it conforms to your demands.

Hi Phil,

I may have been "confused" at the time of writing. I didn't recognize a 
Farnworth accent in the clip, which is generally pretty distinct - like 
Peter Kay's. I went to primary school in Darcy Lever a mile or so away and 
my dad worked at a timber works in Moses Gate, Farnworth, but that was a 
long time ago and the local accent may have changed since then. I was 
somewhat confused by what was being said too, but that's probably me not 
following programmes on TV. I suspected the clip was generated by AI, but 
could be quite wrong.

If I am wrong I apologise to anyone I may have offended and certainly to 
Diane who I have heard speak with an accent reconizably from the area.

-- 
David Entwistle

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#27836

On 23/05/2026 10:10, HenHanna@NewsGrouper wrote:
[..snip..]
> Philomena Cunk on Sir Arthur Conan Doyle #cunk #history #funny #funnyshorts #philosophicalthinking - YouTube
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/shorts/5lO4dNvvOic
> 
>         ----------  She even got ACD's  name  wrong!  (Maybe on purpose?)
> 
yes, that's the sort of thing she does.
> 
>          (Is she saying   "skinny"    at the end?)   (not Skidding) ?
> 
Sounds to me like "skidding", and that makes sense in context - suggesting that the Fast and Furious 
franchise consists of nothing other than cars racing about and skidding round the corners.  I think 
I saw one of them once, and that matches my recollection!  :)

> 
>              Is this a real person or AI ?
> 
Well,
a)  It looks like PC
b)  It sounds just like her
c)  The material is just like other PC programmes I've seen.
d)  I've no idea whether she comes from Bolton, or what that has to do with anything

So I'll go for REAL, but hey, AI fakes can be quite convincing these days, I guess.

Mike.

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#27841

Mike Terry <news.dead.person.stones@darjeeling.plus.com> posted:

> On 23/05/2026 10:10, HenHanna@NewsGrouper wrote:
> [..snip..]
> > Philomena Cunk on Sir Arthur Conan Doyle #cunk #history #funny #funnyshorts #philosophicalthinking - YouTube
> > 
> > https://www.youtube.com/shorts/5lO4dNvvOic
> > 
> >         ----------  She even got ACD's  name  wrong!  (Maybe on purpose?)
> > 
> yes, that's the sort of thing she does.
> > 
> >          (Is she saying   "skinny"    at the end?)   (not Skidding) ?
> > 
> Sounds to me like "skidding", and that makes sense in context - suggesting that the Fast and Furious 
> franchise consists of nothing other than cars racing about and skidding round the corners.  I think 
> I saw one of them once, and that matches my recollection!  :)
> 
> > 
> >              Is this a real person or AI ?
> > 
> Well,
> a)  It looks like PC
> b)  It sounds just like her
> c)  The material is just like other PC programmes I've seen.
> d)  I've no idea whether she comes from Bolton, or what that has to do with anything
> 
> So I'll go for REAL, but hey, AI fakes can be quite convincing these days, I guess.
> 
> Mike.
> 


> > Philomena Cunk on Sir Arthur Conan Doyle #cunk #history #funny #funnyshorts #philosophicalthinking - YouTube


         Thanks...   PCunk  must be (or might be)  
as memorable   as my fav. female  recurring characters from SNL
---------- Rosanne Rosanadana,   or  BabaWawa
             or  the woman who   says   Simmer Down Now!

       Roseanne Roseannadanna: A brash, frizzy-haired consumer affairs reporter on Weekend Update. She always started by reading a letter from "Mr. Richard Feder of Fort Lee, New Jersey," before launching into graphic, off-topic stories. She always wrapped up her rants with her famous catchphrase: "It’s always something!"


______________

>>>  Yes, the name "Cunk" is a deliberate, crude play on words meant to sound like a cross between "cunt" and "cock".


Was  Mary Quant  her real name?


------------- Yes, Mary Quant was her real name. The legendary British fashion designer who popularized the miniskirt was born Barbara Mary Quant on February 11, 1930, in London.

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#27837

On 23/05/2026 10:10, HenHanna@NewsGrouper wrote:
[..snip..]
> Philomena Cunk on Sir Arthur Conan Doyle #cunk #history #funny #funnyshorts #philosophicalthinking - YouTube
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/shorts/5lO4dNvvOic
> 
>         ----------  She even got ACD's  name  wrong!  (Maybe on purpose?)
> 
yes, that's the sort of thing she does.
> 
>          (Is she saying   "skinny"    at the end?)   (not Skidding) ?
> 
Sounds to me like "skidding", and that makes sense in context - suggesting that the Fast and Furious 
franchise consists of nothing other than cars racing about and skidding round the corners.  I think 
I saw one of them once, and that matches my recollection!  :)

> 
>              Is this a real person or AI ?
> 
Well,
a)  It looks like PC
b)  It sounds just like her
c)  The material is just like other PC programmes I've seen.
d)  I've no idea whether she comes from Bolton, or what that has to do with anything

So I'll go for REAL, but hey, AI fakes can be quite convincing these days, I guess.

Mike.

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#27838

On 23/05/2026 10:10, HenHanna@NewsGrouper wrote:
[..snip..]
> Philomena Cunk on Sir Arthur Conan Doyle #cunk #history #funny #funnyshorts #philosophicalthinking - YouTube
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/shorts/5lO4dNvvOic
> 
>         ----------  She even got ACD's  name  wrong!  (Maybe on purpose?)
> 
yes, that's the sort of thing she does.
> 
>          (Is she saying   "skinny"    at the end?)   (not Skidding) ?
> 
Sounds to me like "skidding", and that makes sense in context - suggesting that the Fast and Furious 
franchise consists of nothing other than cars racing about and skidding round the corners.  I think 
I saw one of them once, and that matches my recollection!  :)

> 
>              Is this a real person or AI ?
> 
Well,
a)  It looks like PC
b)  It sounds just like her
c)  The material is just like other PC programmes I've seen.
d)  I've no idea whether she comes from Bolton, or what that has to do with anything

So I'll go for REAL, but hey, AI fakes can be quite convincing these days, I guess.

Mike.

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