Re: Against, Once, fifth, Nowadays, ... all have the same Suffix.

From	"HenHanna" <HenHanna@Posting.from.CsiPh>
Newsgroups	alt.usage.english, sci.lang, rec.puzzles
Subject	Re: Against, Once, fifth, Nowadays, ... all have the same Suffix.
Date	2026-06-10 09:53 +0000
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Ross Clark <benlizro@ihug.co.nz> wrote:
> On 8/06/2026 11:13 a.m., HenHanna wrote:
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> >      Apparently,
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> >    Against,  Once,  fifth,  Nowadays, ... all have the same Suffix.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ho0NtIR5-_U
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> > 
> > 
> 
> Not "fifth".



____________omg... you're right!


The Outlier
            Fifth:          This word has no connection to the adverbial
genitive. The -th suffix here is a Proto-Indo-European ordinal number
suffix used to create ranks (like fourth, sixth, seventh). The reason it
sounds similar in rapid speech is phonetic blending (coarticulation),
not grammar.




"Des einen Freud, des anderen Leid."



                   "Totgesagte leben länger."




"Wes Brot ich ess, des Lied ich sing." 


            "Der Wunsch ist der Vater des Gedankens." 


_______________________

my college German teacher  called   Genitive  [class 2] or Type-2

      Also,,,   he talked about  [Saxon type-2]


The Saxon Genitive (Pre-positioned)

The "Saxon Genitive" (sächsischer Genitiv) is named after the
Anglo-Saxons because it mirrors the English style of putting the
possessor before the noun and attaching an "-s" ending. 

Unlike English, German  does not use an apostrophe for this.


              Example:         Walters Auto    (Walter's car)
 
              Example:          Marias Buch    (Maria's book)

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  Against,  Once,  fifth,  Nowadays, ... all have the same Suffix. "HenHanna" <HenHanna@Posting.from.CsiPh> - 2026-06-07 23:13 +0000
  Re: Against, Once, fifth, Nowadays, ... all have the same Suffix. Ross Clark <benlizro@ihug.co.nz> - 2026-06-10 18:55 +1200
    Re: Against, Once, fifth, Nowadays, ... all have the same Suffix. "HenHanna" <HenHanna@Posting.from.CsiPh> - 2026-06-10 09:53 +0000

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